>>510760287 (OP)
What’s sad is that this place is just a media narrative reaction board. The MSM sets the talking points, and the morons here just gobble it up and argue one side or the other.

This is done, day in and day out. All while the fags here somehow imagine 4chan as a last bastion of freedom where you can say whatever you want.

>>510760848
Nigger

>>510760848
Then go make some OC you lazy leaf

I asked chat gpt many questions about it and it gave me like zero chance it is trump. That he has never spoken with this style in any type of writing, nor private talk reported by someone, some of these words he has never used and it sounds like an entirely different person. I tried to play devils advocate too for it to argue it's him and it still said no extremely unlikely

>>510761033
the canajeet isn't wrong though. I think most of it is shills tbqhwufamalam... Not even paid shills either. It's plebbit kids thinking they're edgy or "owning the Nazis" or whatever. That's where the whole 'youre stupidly doing X just to own the libs ' came from: plebbit fags.

>>510760287 (OP)
painfully fake, but his terrible handling of things the last couple weeks has allowed it to gain traction

>>510761275
Try grok. Chatgpt is kinda retarded

>>510760287 (OP)
Has the WSJ ever lied before? I don't think so.

There's no reason to think it's fake, other than the MIGA desire to keep up their decade-long streak of denying the reality of Trump and Epstein's close relationship.

>>510761487
Truly intelligent people don't give a fuck. X-ray vision cuts through the bullshit like a hot knife through butter. The more bullshit the easier it is to see the truth. You're not intelligent, which is not a problem. The world needs sheep too.

>>510760848
make a better thread faggot

>>510761275
The only word he supposedly didn't use is "enigma", which is not only false, but in that context, it would appear as though he's alluding to some inside joke between him and Epstein.

It's also very likely that Ghislain Maxwell helped him write it, as she prepared the birthday book thing.

>>510760287 (OP)
Class consciousness not through material conditions but pedo elite. it doesn't matter if this is fake or not. Trump is done, he's washed and clearly a member of the deep state, contradicting the entire base of support behind him. Stop supporting him if you have any morals or ideals

it appears wildly out of character for trump to write something like this until you remember the man barely reads and doesn't even type his own truth social posts, he likely dictated something to a secretary and she gayed it up, and then he drew the tits and the bush for his own touches

>>510761275

>I asked chatGPT

Idiot

>>510761660

>>510760848
>muh msm
shut the fuck up grandpa, go back to facebook

It doesn’t matter if it’s real, what matters is Israel’s control over US politicians.

It makes way more sense that it's a letter from Donald Barr.

>>510760287 (OP)
I dont even understand it. Like its just totally incomprehensible to me. What is it even supposed to be? I dont understand why someone would write a pretend conversation on a birthday card. It doesnt make sense to me that trump would write it, but it also doesnt make sense to me that someone would make it up. Its just bizarre.

>>510762621
Donald Barr was a weirdo.

>>510762621
>we both like underage girls, and we can't even talk about that directly with each other, but I know you do, and you know I do, so when are we having cheese pizza again without explicitly saying so? Happy birthday by the way.

>>510760287 (OP)
Even if it's real, it's a supposed birthday letter written before Trump kicked out and banned Epstein from his properties for trying to groom girls.
I don't get why it's even supposed to be a bombshell. It's such a weird fucking article, I'm shocked the WSJ even published it.

>>510760848
fuck off leaf, this is politics andthis a political board

>>510762621
Maybe Ghislaine wrote it like that anon said.

>>510760287 (OP)
Brah, probably half, if not more, of this place is bots and shills. There are tons of entities trying to gain social influence by bouncing their shit around in here. 4chan, by its very nature, has always been something to take with a grain of salt, but that is tenfold on this particular board ever since Trump won in 2016.

Step 1: Take it less seriously.
Step 2: Exercise more discernment.
Step 3: Ignore the chaff.

Then, maybe this place has a little bit of value.

>>510763190
There’s nothing being implied by the letter, and that there isn’t anything shady going on with regards to the Epstein investigation. They’ve already confirmed his suicide and that the client list is fake, we just need to trust the process.

>>510763766
Meant for >>510760848

>>510762528
No it wouldn't. Trump was closer with Epstein than an elderly Donald Barr. That's another cope.

Here's a free one: just say Trump and Epstein were adult gay lovers, who never hurt children. Then use this to argue about how normal gay guys all love conservatism, and it's just libtard trannies who don't love Israel, capitalism, and our shared Judeo-Christian values.

>>510763190
>written before Trump kicked out and banned Epstein from his properties for trying to groom girls.
Why do you fags argue so disingenuously? He was only banned from Mar-a-Lago after a member whose 14-year-old daughter Epstein "tried to make do things", threatening to harm the Trump brand. This was over a year after he'd been arrested, publicly outed as a pedophile, and Mar-a-Lago covered for him, lying about the girl being 18 when confirming the ban story to PageSix.

>>510760848
it is and we can
we just have to filter gay astroturfing from you faggots on both sides of the issue, and ignore the obviously gay woe is me demoralization shit

>>510760287 (OP)
Indelible in the hippocampus.

>>510763962
Because it’s Trump we’re talking about, and he kind of campaigned on railing against the deep state and exposing the criminals embedded in our bureaucracy for what they are. It would completely go against his agenda, and Trump’s not the kind of person to lie about something as petty as that.

>>510763962
Trump banned Epstein in 2004, he was arrested in 2006 you fucking idiot.
>>510763794
>>510764351
>liberal larping
your party is at record low approval rating, the shilling is making things WORSE for you lol

>>510761275
>I asked chat gpt
No inner monologue confirmed.

>>510762621
This, it's completely bizarre. Imagine getting a birthday card by a friend where he role-plays as you in a fake conversation about how many secrets, traits and values you share.

>>510764525
Nope. 2007.

>Meanwhile, the Mar-a-Lago Club in Palm Beach last night confirmed a Web site report that Epstein has been banned there. “He would use the spa to try to procure girls. But one of them, a masseuse about 18 years old, he tried to get her to do things,” a source told us. “Her father found out about it and went absolutely ape-[bleep]. Epstein’s not allowed back.” Epstein denies he is banned from Mar-a-Lago and says, in fact, he was recently invited to an event there.
https://pagesix.com/2007/10/15/sex-case-victims-lining-up/

>>510764525
>your party is at record low approval rating, the shilling is making things WORSE for you lol

-Controls the majority of seats in the house and the senate
-Holds the presidency
-Holds the Supreme Court by a 6/3 majority (even if a lot of them are Republican by name only)

How tf is the party at a “record low” approval rating? MAGA remains strong, made up scandal by radical democrats and disloyal republicans won’t do anything to change that.

>>510764874
He's talking about Democrats

>>510764874
stop larping faggot
>>510764873
>While a specific date isn't pinpointed, reports indicate the relationship soured around 2004 following a real estate dispute in Palm Beach where Trump outbid Epstein for a mansion. Trump has since said he hadn't spoken to Epstein in approximately 15 years prior to Epstein's 2019 arres
nytimes:
>2004: Trump and Epstein have a ‘falling out’ over a property fight
>Two years after Mr. Trump called Mr. Epstein a “terrific guy,” the two men became rivals over an oceanfront Palm Beach mansion that had fallen into foreclosure. In a power struggle detailed by The Washington Post, Mr. Trump ultimately outbid Mr. Epstein for the property.
>There is little public record of the two men interacting after that real estate battle. Mr. Trump would later say in 2019 that he and Mr. Epstein had a “falling out” and hadn’t spoken in 15 years; the president declared himself “not a fan” of his former friend.
>Not long after the property auction, the police in Palm Beach fielded a tip that young women had been observed going in and out of Mr. Epstein’s home.
https://archive.is/QXbdW

>>510760848
finally a canadian that makes sense

>>510765511
They had a falling out over real estate, but he was still welcome at Mar-a-Lago, where he would "use the spa to try to procure girls". This continued for over a year after his arrest, until the father "went apeshit", and even then, they covered him and lied about the victims age.

Those are the actual facts, and there's no escaping them.

>>510765801

>>510765999
Jesus fucking Christ, how are you niggers so fucking dumb. If he was banned for what he did with a 14-year-old girl in the Mar-a-Lago spa in 2007, then he was there in 2007.

Are you asking fucking AI?

>>510760287 (OP)
It's the "pee tapes" hoax, but made by someone that believes it'll make trump look bad instead of someone showing how little research (((the news))) will do to slander people they don't like.

>>510766303
speaking of the pee tapes

>>510766303
true trump would never associate with pedos

>>510766211
Good point but this says Epstein didn't plead guilty until 2008

>>510766756
Ok, but he was arrested in 2006, and outed publicly as a pedophile.

>>510766877
The plausible explanation is that they thought he was innocent and fighting a fradulent case until he got caught at mar-a-lago

>>510761487
Stupid fool

>>510767132
That's not plausible. Everybody knew what he was up to, and the Mar-a-Lago statement - that covers for him - acknowledges that he'd "use the spa to try to procure girls", and that admits that it only became a problem when the father "went apeshit". For more context, Virginia Roberts was recruited there in 2000, 7 years prior.

>>510760848
nigger

>>510766355
Obama didn't have the imagination to come up with the pee tapes.
>>510766481
Epic own, faggot.
Post one of the other dozen photos of Trump at parties for rich guys, with another rich guy that went to parties for rich guys to try and find people to black mail.
Surely the billionth time you post the same images will finally offset the total lack of evidence of them being anything beyond passing rich guy "friends".
Or the fact that once Trump had credible evidence of epstein going after underage girls, that he banned him from every property he owned and was essentially the sole reason he got arrested in the first place.

>>510760287 (OP)
Cope MAGApedo.

>>510760287 (OP)
Oh well. Thats what happens when you let the other side frame the narrative.

>>510760287 (OP)
Oh yeah I'm sure Trump, who in every dealing he's ever had has spoken like a complete fucking blathering, boistrous sperg writes letters to his friends like a coy schoolgirl.
The man is the very definition of bloviating blowhard, and you're gonna fucking tell me he's one ovulation away from writing Teehee and dotting his i's and j's with fucking smiley faces?

Fuck off.

>>510760287 (OP)
It's real!
Trump used to be articulate and thoughtful when he spoke. Just listen to this interview from the 80's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-w47wgdhso

>>510767313
It's much more plausible that 2007 was just the first time he got caught at Mar-a-Lago. Epstein's MO was to go after poor vulnerable young girls, not rich ones you'd see at Trump's clubs. It sounds like he just got desperate after his arrest and fucked up by going for a rich girl.

>>510761660
It will take years to grind through the courts, but Trump will win his case against the WSJ, and he will be awarded a staggering sum for their foolishness.

>>510761817
Likely that Maxwell helped Trump write it?
I can't see that happening. I can't see Maxwell and Epstein collaborating. I don't see either of them having the patience.
If it came from Trump I think there's a bigger chance that one of Trump's secretaries or "people" drew it up.
I honestly don't think Trump has the self-awareness or distance it would take to dream up an imaginary script with him and Epstein saying dialogue to each other.
I don't think it's real anyway.

>>510761982
I never voted for Trump and don't "support" him in any way, but he's clearly not "done".
What, you think he's going to resign over this or that his base will push him to?
Ironically this "birthday card" thing has gotten his base back behind him.
The mainstream can't stop getting in their own way. If they let Trump blow in the breeze, maybe in a week or two his supporters would be calling on him to resign.
Instead the "fake news" has attacked him with an unbelievable story.
ALso, you have a lot of buzzwords like
>class consciousness
>pedo elite
and
>deep state
in your post. Reality doesn't work this way.
Like, get this shit out of your head.
This isn't about "blackmail".
Bill Clinton wasn't being "blackmailed". He was being rewarded.
Epstein's use was as a middle-man between gigantic financial transactions that couldn't take place in the open. The "pedo" (really, teenagers, must different from the Boys Town type scandals) stuff is more of his own personal kink.

>>510760848
we won the culture war

The letter reads like AI jeet slop

>>510767871
Again, Virginia Roberts in 2000.

None of the copes work. Nor can you explain why Mar-a-Lago covered for him, and lied about her being 18.

>>510767341
sure and i bet youve never accused any of those rich guys of being pedos after seeing them in pictures with epstein.
but your daddy is different dont worry

>>510762054
>doesn't even type his own truth social posts
If he didn't type his own social media posts, they wouldn't have so many idiotic misspellings in them.
I do think there's a chance he just told someone a general idea of "type something up about boobies and secrets".
The thing is, imo, Trump doesn't have enough depth to really be bosom-buddies with anyone. I don't think he'd give a fuck about giving anyone a birthday card that alluded to a real meaningful friendship or a private inner life.
I don't think Trump has an inner life or any real friends, or could allude to anything that had depth.
You have to remember that when Epstein called Trump one of his best friends, that was Epstein trying to suggest that he was close to Trump after the fact, after Trump had banned him from the club and given him the cold shoulder.
You have to think too that this kind of "We're in this secret together" kind of vibe is very similar to Masonic brothers. None of this is a defense of Trump, btw.
But I think a lot of the speculation about this stuff, as if it means that Trump and Epstein raped children together, is pretty goddamn stupid. I bet a lot of you same guys would immediately say that James Gunn's tweets don't mean anything and were just jokes. This alledged Trump note is way vaguer, but people are using it as concrete proof of pedophilia.

>>510760287 (OP)
>trump suddenly getting exposed for Epstein links
>(((media))) releases obvious fake letter to delegitimize trump Epstein links

>>510768532
I've not used pictures of people at essentially public parties (as public as one can get with a "value to enter" requirement) to allege that someone is a pedophile that actually personally worked with someone else despite a total lack of evidence of evidence and all evidence to the contrary.
I will however allege that the guy that hang out privately with epstein in epsteins house, and is actually on record as having gone to little saint James, is probably a pedophile.

>>510768669
>SEE ITS DEM LYING LIBERAL MEDIA TRYIN MAKE TRUMP LOOK BAD
This will now be the new narrative. Media will continue to release obvious fake shit to get the heat off Trump. Similar to how when his Russian links were being exposed they began releasing fake nonsense and reports to make him look like a innocent victim.

>>510768455
Virginia Roberts didn't even meet Epstein at Mar-a-Lago.

>>510768724
guess he should have no issue at all releasing the files then, hope he doesnt drag his feett that might makeit look like hes hiding something!

>>510768898
whatever they release you'll just claim they tampered with it to remove the smoking gun evidence against Trump (that democrats totally had for years and never released)

>>510768898
I don't imagine he will, because then your (((country))) will lose most of its control over the world.

>>510760287 (OP)
And how would you know, Jew?

>>510769397
Idiot

>>510760287 (OP)
If they were faking one they'd have made it sound less ridiculous.

>>510760287 (OP)

>>510760287 (OP)
When you remember Trump is a pseudointellectual retard it makes sense.

>>510760287 (OP)
of course it's fucking fake, if it had any chance of being real it would have been deployed for the election.

>>510768847
If you're going to post AI, read the whole answer. It literally says she was recruited from Mar-a-Lago.

And why did they lie about a 14-year-old being of age?

>>510769949
>Richard durbin
Yea, anon. I'm sure a lifelong democrat, that is at least partially responsible for Chicago, is considered to be one of the most liberal senators ever, and helped get the black boon retard put on scotus wouldn't lie.

>>510768847
retard

>>510770122
No Epstein sent one of his mules to Mar-a-Lago who recruited her. That's how he got most of the girls. He would have other people recruit them for him in a casual way and lure them back to his place. He didn't meet her there.

There's no way Epstein was hitting on girls at Mar-a-Lago and getting away with it for years. His main targets were poor girls who would do anything for money and had no support group to help them after he abused them. Not the Mar-a-Lago demographic.

He just got sloppy in 2007 and got caught.

>>510760848
Stop trying to break free goy. Get back in the prison.

>>510770380
Ghislaine Maxwell was the one that recruited her from Mar-a-Lago, not Epstein.

>>510760287 (OP)
that sounds so incredibly faggy. trump isnt even capable of something like that, it should've been more blunt and direct if they wanted to make it believable

>>510763093
Sounds like lazily recycled pizza gate shit

>>510770076

Trump is a pseudo intellectual? The guy who's constantly getting slammed by intellectuals for talking like he's working class?

Bullshit. Someone did an AI analysis of all of Trump's publicly available speeches, press statements, tweets, and interviews. You know how many times he used the word "Enigma"? Zero.

This BS note sounds nothing like Trump and you know it. Shoving your head up your ass and pretending otherwise just makes you sound like a retard and a liar.

>>510760287 (OP)
I don't know, there's probably SOMETHING behind it because the idea that the WSJ would just make something up from thin air knowing they'd get sued over it would be absurdly stupid.

>>510762257
>nooOOooo it's FAKEE! Its not reallll! It's not realllll!

>>510770845
Many such cases

>>510770487
Nigger, while defending him, Mar-a-Lago admitted he'd procure girls there. He just went after the wrong one.

Why did they lie about the victim's age?