Secularization kills civilization.
Philosophy/religion is the backbone of civilization :


secularization
->lower birthrates
-->short higher economic development (people don't have to "waste" time raising kids) + demographci debt passed to the next generation
--->demographic debt means immigration to pay the debt
---->demography is destiny = Death of your civilization

THAT WHICH WAS TO BE DEMONSTRATED

>>510761516 (OP)

>>510761516 (OP)
go kys muhammad

>>510761516 (OP)
>no civilization without mass delusions
Then humanity should die

>>510761516 (OP)
Wrong. Secularization is just another result of the same cause.

Language is the foundation of civlization. Morality is civility in societies with language.

Sub-human savages that can’t understand language are the only creatures that need to be controlled by allegorical fairy tales.

Christianity was invented by Jews to control the goyim. Islam was invented by Jews to control the goyim.

>>510761905
jews are on overdrive these days, they really insist on keep european birthrates low huh

>>510761516 (OP)
>Correlation =/= causation
While secularization happened at the same time as low birthrates, both can be blamed on Jews.

>>510761970
mass delusion? i just said philosophy. you re just assuming than atheism/nihilism is the correct decisions but a lot of philosophers would BTFO you for saying that

>>510762053
it happened with rome, its happening right now in Iran, which isnt caused by jews

>>510762093
why obssessed by religion? it can also be a philosophy. but even chrsitianity fgor a lot of people is better than civilizational suicide. and its not just about "behaving" its about caring about the future and having children

>>510762164
did it happen because of jews in rome? or in Iran right now? imean if jews are gone nothing will change, we have to do something about it regardless. thats stupid to say secularization is caused by jews to defend the idea that secularization isnt a problem. having children is some kind of selfless act and necessitates something higher

>>510761516 (OP)
Okay there are a few things wrong with this post "dude".

1. Philosophy/religion - they aren't the same thing. If you look throughout history, they're actually diametrically opposed. Religion is a control structure instituted to reign over large swaths of people via orthodoxy that is ruled and directed by a priest class. Philosophy is a method of inculcating thought and dialogue in which one gains (and potentially loves) wisdom. A society that is based on philosophy would look totally different than a society based on religion.

2. Secularization - Secularization in the Western sense is based upon enlightenment thinkers and the Tabla Rasa (blank slate theory). The enlightenment thinkers like Locke and Paine got the underpinnings for their ideas from Christianity. Specifically a radicalized version of Puritanism. That's why the United States has references to Creationism in the Declaration of Independence. Like, "endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights". All Libertine, Individualistic, Free Values are based on Christian Values and Ethics.

3. Demography is destiny - demography of who exactly? The United States has to be a conglomeration of literally anyone due to the structure of the Government. If you want to control the demographics of your nation, then it would be a turn towards eugenics (which Philosophers conceived of btw) which would be Anti-American.

I may agree with your sentiment, but you should read more on these issues you're concerned with

>>510762767
>they aren't the same thing
stopped reading here i dont want to read these paragrah from a midwitted pedant retard grow up ten years and come back arguing on semantics and explaining shit no one cares about

ok i read you fucking asshole
>anti-american
only because they assumed that everyone was the same genetically and culturally and that if it was fine to welcome massive amount sof englishmen french german etc then everything would be fine with jeets brazillians and blacks, hwich is OBVIOUSLY not the case as observed presently, and that ANYWAY america isnt the fucking center of the world and europe exists. if you wanna live in fckin jewish brazil then enjoy yourself but im not sure all americans are onboard

>>510762767
>blank slate theory
funny that you say that but it doesnt play on the lack of higher belief part, but on immigration and death of the civilization. it meets together for some reason. secularization is worse than i thought

>>510762767
anyway secularization is still the problem because the state cannot be passive about it. obviously people dont do in philosophy in drove to become theists going on a pascal wager streak to have children. right now its just atheism and nihilism, so secularization is still the problem and my instinct of beign mad at you for your scholarly definitions

>>510763967
Look bro I agree with a lot of your sentiments. All I'm saying is that there's no way to reform America. While I agree that "not all americans are onboard", it's also the case that MOST AMERICANS do not want to be racist. Racism would be needed to reform american and since that isn't going to happen America is going down.

Also the state is just made up of people. And I agree that most people just want to have a religion and fuck and they're basically akin to human cattle. But that's the problem. A "return to familial religious values" is what got us here. The only start in my mind would be to get Americans off of Christianity, Judaism, and Islam and focus on aryan philosophy. But how you would do that when there's smut in basically all media and propaganda in schools... I don't know

>>510761905
YOURE OUT OF YOUR ELEMENT DONNIE

>>510761516 (OP)
Is there some reason why birthrate decline can't be explained almost entirely by: 1. Dramatically fewer people live and work on farms now than in the past, so children's labor is much less valuable. 2. Easy and readily-available birth control is a thing now, so people can choose to enjoy sex without the natural side effect. 3. Infant and childhood mortality is way down, so if you want kids who will grow up to be adults, you don't have to have spares to be sure.

>>510762053
Technology?