Why is pol and all right-wing types vehemently against wealth redistribution to more equitable levels?

>>510764634 (OP)
Crabs in a bucket mentality and addiction to the taste of the boot of the megarich.

>>510764634 (OP)
Because they want to take money from working class Whites and distribute it to the unending tsunami of the third world flooding across the border, who want to see me killed and my children raped.

Because the rich will always weazle out of paying their share. In the end it's everyone else that will have their wealth and autonomy stripped. Once it's gone it's gone for ever.

>>510764634 (OP)
Because communism has in fact been tried a bunch of times and failed horrendously.

>>510764761
Humans really are a moral failure of a species.

>>510764634 (OP)
Explain how this works when billionaires can just move their wealth to a tax haven in the Bahamas. Provide any possible mechanism for redistribution other than taxation. Because they WILL get around the tax, they can afford to hire lobbyists and lawyers and accountants.

I’m not against equity I’m against bad ideas that will backfire.

>>510764881
>Because they want to take money from working class Whites
The more you make everything about race the more the ruling class will continue to rob you blind.

It is not illegal pacco working on a farm picking pepper for one dollar an hour that has ruined your life. It's the rich farm owner marking food prices up 1000% do he can afford his second yacht and vacation home.

>>510765168
And I see you don't even understand the basics of what is going on yet you think you have the solutions.

>>510764902
>Because communism has in fact been tried a bunch of times and failed horrendously.
It's more a failure of human nature and its own intrinsic flaws that it is a problem with communism. Communism not working highlights our own greed, lust for power and control, and our insatiable need of wanting more. Humans are thr failure not communism. Communism is a perfect system meant for perfect beings.

>>510764634 (OP)
not giving my shit away
>t.rich fag

>>510765497
>Communism doesn't work in real life but that's not a failure of communism
That's retarded.

>>510764634 (OP)
Why are you so persistent on getting other peoples money?
Are you Indian?

>>510764634 (OP)
Was anyone else confused by this graph for a second because this bar is so thin they mistook it for a line demarcating the top of the range?

>>510765126
>Provide any possible mechanism for redistribution other than taxation.
There is no mechanism of redistribution that will not be painful. Taxes, revolution, civil war, economic collapse, resource limits, etc. Honestly, taxes are the best option.

Forcefully taxing the rich probably less painful that you believe.

>>510765763
So when they leave the country what's the plan?

>>510765126
Changing the rates is best accompanied by reforms and closing tax loopholes, yes.

Nevertheless, the gigantic tax cuts favoring the very wealthy have, in fact, resulted in reduced tax income and ballooning deficits, so clearly tax rates do something.

>>510764634 (OP)
Leftoids will say this and then talk about how more immigration = more wealth.

>>510765815
>So when they leave the country what's the plan?
Where do they leave to anon? Can they just uproot their entire maga factories and ship them all to tiny tax havens in the Bahamas? How are rich people going to win if they isolate themselves from the economies that made them filthy rich?

They cannot. They will have to pay increased taxes if pressed they will fold. Stop being a weenie and don't fall for their bluff.

>>510766087
Wherever they like. They're loaded.

>>510766118
>Wherever they like. They're loaded
Nigger did you even read? You cannot fly a massive tesla factor to a tiny tax haven in some Caribbean island. They can take their money, but the massive factories they have will be left behind which is the real wealth anyway ls.

>>510766337
So really what you are arguing for is not wealth redistribution, it is nationalisation of industry. How then are you ensuring that this doesn't bankrupt the state when you are paying for all this with your taxes?

>>510765566
>Communism doesn't work in real life but that's not a failure of communism
>That's retarded.
yes. communism only works if you are a literal ant

>>510766534
>So really what you are arguing for is not wealth redistribution, it is nationalisation of industry.
I am arguing for any method that makes wealth distribution more equitable for the majority of people and gives them a better life. Nationalization of resources, higher taxes on the rich and corporations, closing tax loopholes, etc.

>>510766903
Not so long ago pretty much everything in this country was state run. Everything from coal mines to airlines. It's not any more because it almost bankrupted the country.

>>510766635
>communism only works if you are a literal ant
Communism use to work in hunter gatherer tribes of our ancient past. When family and community mattered most.

The insane focus of hyper individualism has caused us to be disconnected from community and made us sad and depressed.

We have drifted away from the core values that served human beings survival for hundreds of thousands of years.

>>510766997
>it almost bankrupted the country.
You're almost bankrupt now, so what did you really gain besides selling away all your countries resources to greedy rich oligarchs?

>>510767176
The problem is that the state running things is less efficient than it being private which makes it uncompetitive, which means they don't make money, and when they don't make money it's on the government to foot the bill or in other words the taxpayer which then goes on to hurt the economy so the government gets less tax revenue to prop up these failing industries and it all spirals down until you're going cap in hand to the IMF.

>>510767387
>the state running things is less efficient than it being private
Because giving CEO's and shareholders massive bonuses is efficient? You have been lied to brother.

>>510768381
Those come from their own profits. They can't give themselves money that the aren't making.

You're not asking the important question though: when does it make sense to have the state running something for example the NHS?

>>510768575
>They can't give themselves money that the aren't making
What do you think bailouts are? When the stock market dips because greedy banksters and pocketed too many bonuses they turn on the money printer and brrrrrrr.

>>510769167
The bailouts were because the banks were deemed too important to the country at large to be allowed to fail. If a bank goes under then people's money goes with it. There was also talk that they should have been allowed to fail anyway because saving them was expensive and the burden fell onto the taxpayer for years and years after which may have caused more harm than if they had been allowed to fail.

>>510769679
Banks can get fucked. Renewed my mortgage the other day and we went over all the fees. There are so many bullshit fees it's insane. There will be a $200 for closing the mortgage when it gets paid off even. As if they didn't make a massive amount of money off me already the entire time and just for the hell of it there will be another $200 to do something that we both know they will always need to do eventually as part of the process. They can get fucked. If someone Luigis their entire board I won't feel bad.

>>510769167
Also, several of our banks were nationalised back in 2008. That WAS the bailout. So you see on one hand you like the idea of nationalisation but then when the reality of who is actually paying for it comes around suddenly you are less enthusiastic.

>>510764634 (OP)
>>510764761
>Why are White men against a progressive plot to steal more of White men's stuff and give it to Africans and Muslims?
Yeah, I really wonder why that is.

>>510764634 (OP)
Why do leftist believe that a government is an organisation that can be trusted with every bodies money?

>>510765983
exactly this.

>>510764634 (OP)
you're not entitled to what other people have earned, or been given by their deceased family members who earned it. to put it in a sports analogy because you're a nigger-worshiping moron, imagine you're losing 62-13 in basketball at halftime. is your suggestion that the fair thing to do is transfer 40% of the opposing team's points to your team?
the rich already pay the vast majority of taxes. top 10% pay like 70% of taxes, which is already absurd. and a lot of that is for medicaid and public schools and other shit they dont even use. so something of value and youll make money, you nigger leech.

>>510766087
>Where do they leave to anon? Can they just uproot their entire maga factories and ship them all to tiny tax havens in the Bahamas?

Oh man, you actually don't understand economics do you?

Firstly, it's not a *they* thing. Wealth is transient.

Secondly, our purchases and investments are what will leave for overseas. When you raise corporate taxes, income taxes etc... you make it more expensive to produce a product, including by increasing costs for wage earners. This forces firms to raise prices to compete--they need to make enough to cover their costs.

So, people start looking for alternatives--this is the story of outsourcing to China. We had labor unions and living costs and taxes in the United States while China and India had poor slave labor. So, money flooded overseas to mint new factories in China etc...

You want to fix everything? Get rid of the millions of free-riding blacks and browns sucking our economy dry and destroying our society. Go back to a white, prosperous, utopian West and everyone is living in a house, with a wife and in good health.

>>510767081
What we've drifted away from is Jesus Christ and a white society built on family.

> "Muh communist tribes."

Yeah, I'm sure you're dying to leave your 5th gen NVIDIA GPU and central air and Chik-Fil-Et for parasites, a 20-year-lifespan, starvation, and exposure to the elements.

Get real you retarded troon.

>>510764634 (OP)
Given how human competence and intelligence is distributed in a gaussian fashion this is exactly how it should work. Would you rather some 90 IQ mongrel control significant amounts of wealth? I'm not sure that is even possible, they would just spend it immediately.

>>510771335
>earned

>>510771639
Kim Kardashian?

pic related is wealth redistribution nigga

>>510769679
Spin it however you want. The stock market is increasing socialist and dependent upon big government turning on the money printer to brrrrr and bail them out. It's socialism for the rich fag. At least be honest with yourself.

>>510770173
>you are less enthusiastic
I am fine with bailing out nationalized banks. Here in America it's all private greedy jews that are banks.

>>510764634 (OP)
because the left doesn't want to hurt the 1% they want to destroy the middle class (so does the right but slowly)
i don't vote ether side but if the left unironically believe that a left wing politician who is also now a 1%er is going to take his own money away and not just hurt the middle class then your fucking retarded

They want 2 classes them and everyone else being a surf who works endless hours till they are dead.

Nether side see non 1%ers as citizens of the world they see the non 1%ers as useless eaters who's soul reason to be on earth is to serve them until they drop dead from exhaustion

>>510771746
>>510771436

Yeah, exactly.

The issue isn't the economic system as much as niggers and jews existing.

>>510770749
>Why do leftist believe that a government is an organisation that can be trusted
Why do righties think private enterprise can be trusted when history has shown that they are just as greedy and corrupt if not even more so?

>>510764634 (OP)
Bad genes shouldn't be subsidized with the achievements of good genes. It's dysgenic, demotivating and wealth-destroying.

>>510771335
>you're not entitled to what other people have earned
Nigger, what do you think civilization is? An agreement to share in other peoples work, creations, and innovations. Otherwise we would all have to do everything and know every trade all.by ourselves. Which is impossible.


Simply living in civilization is a social contract with a large community of people that you will share resources and have access to other people's innovations. Otherwise why have civilization at all?

>>510771436
>our purchases and investments are what will leave for overseas
So rich billionaires and corporations will go to China where the CCP will just nationalize their business anyway? Maybe they go to Europe where they pay even higher taxes? Maybe they go to Russia and their business gets completely subverted and taken over by mob like Russian oligarchs?

Even with higher taxes America would still be the best place for the richband corporations to be.

>>510771984
The more power you give the government, the more corporations will spend billions of dollars to co-opt it. Most of the taxes you give the government just gets funneled into benefiting private corporations, like Pfizer, Raytheon, and Tesla

>>510772640
>The more power you give the government
The less government you have the more power corporations have, and that didn't go well in the past. Chuld labor, factories slaughtering workers like cattle they were so unsafe, working a hundred hours a week, etc. See the history of the industrial revolution in America.

If the government is made big enough, then corporations won't have enough money to control it all and fuck us. They already struggle to control the government despite all their money.

>>510771639
>Would you rather some 90 IQ mongrel control significant amounts of wealth?
This already happens under capitalism.

>>510764634 (OP)
people should redistribute the managerial class' wealth, not give them more of it. that's simply counterintuitive

that's ultimately what the modern left is, the managerial class trying to convince people to give them more and more of their shit with honeyed words. inequality be damned

>>510764634 (OP)
Giving money to people that don't know how to manage it doesn't help them. They end up broke again in a matter of days or weeks. If you faggots could stop trying to take my money to give to niggers and start focusing on things like corporate ownership of residential housing and insurance companies pricing many Americans out of home ownership, that would be a great START to fixing the problem.

>>510772899
>The less government you have the more power corporations have
The bigger government is more the opportunities you give corporations to usurp it, remember when the government tried to coerce people into taking Pfizer's product and they suddenly became the biggest company on the stock market over night?
>Chuld labor, factories
Child labor existed before factories, the only difference was that impoverished children did all that grueling work on farms instead of in the city
>slaughtering workers like cattle they were so unsafe
There are still and will always be unsafe jobs, and people sign up for them because they pay the best. If a boss is tricking people into doing dangerous shit without warning them then they should sue
>working a hundred hours a week, etc
Poor people still do that, if you're working less hours it's because you can afford/choose to

>>510764634 (OP).

Because people didn't earn it.

>>510764634 (OP)
there shouldn't be a cutoff for how much money you can have before the govt takes it, but there should be like a gradient where you are taxed more and more depending on how much excess money you make. For billionaires who have everything in stocks like Jeff Bezos, it would mean he would have to sell his shares to others on the market in order to pay his taxes on their increasing value

>>510774594
more accurately, government agencies didn't earn it. what the fuck have our already bloated bureaucracies done to solve inequality? nothing. they thrive off inequality because it creates a self feedback loop where more and more people have to rely on them which gives them more room to rapidly expand. at the end of the day bureaucracy only cares about itself and what you're able to provide it

>>510764634 (OP)
Because government is always evil and they decide how how to distribute money

>>510764634 (OP)
Because it is nothing more than taking from Whites to support patristics non-Whites.
KYS
>>510765168
>It is not illegal pacco working on a farm picking pepper for one dollar an hour that has ruined your life.
Yes it is, without pacco it's the kike owning the farm would not be able to undercut the White farmer that is paying a decent wage to a White farm hand.
>>510766087
>Can they just uproot their entire maga factories
Yes, the only thing that can't be packed into a crate and shipped to a new location is the building. With the right motivation a move can be done within weeks, the only limiting factor is how long it takes for the concrete used in the the new building to cure enough.
>>510766337
>You cannot fly a massive tesla factor
Tesla has a reputation for turning empty fields into massive factories in short order.>>510767081
>Communism use to work in hunter gatherer tribes of our ancient past. When family and community mattered most.
No, tribal hierarchy favored those that produce the most first and foremost, often with those providers have complete control of distribution of resources. ALL tribal hierarchies would expel or kill wasteful, unproductive, and sickly members.

>>510775940
>ALL tribal hierarchies would expel or kill wasteful, unproductive, and sickly members.
They also killed greedy trube members that wanted to keep everything for themselves no matter how alpha they thought they were.

>>510764634 (OP)
>Give money to the government
You have a deep underappreciation of just how much I hate the government.

>>510766087
>Can they just uproot their entire factories
Fucking dingus just forgetting US tariff war with china and sudden revelation that america produce shit

>>510776146
Now that is textbook coping.