Make an assumption based on your life experiences and analysis of everything.

Most of us can agree there is most likely no god and hence no god exists. If he did exist hypothetically, good or evil?

Please keep Abrahamic religions and gods out of this discussion. No writings by men could ever define god. God is just the theistic perspective. We can agree that we can't know who he is but we can make assumptions of what he is like. So, good or evil?

>>510767226 (OP)
How would we know what good is without evil?

>>510767226 (OP)
define "god"

>>510767226 (OP)
God is so good, you would disagree with how good he is.
Satan is so evil, you you disagree with how evil he could be.
Christ is king, because you're retarded and should never be in charge.

god is beyond good and evil; good and evil are only perceptions humans conceived in to bring to their own existence and facilitate their own desires. dark and light are necessary for the physical universe to exist and without one order the other time would not move and nothing would live. god of course is beyond all of these things because god is the progenitor of becoming and is beyond being.

>>510767226 (OP)
The "god" we know, that controls this dimension, is just a higher being that doesn't give a fuck it just creates and destroys and if that's not the case then it's a jealous "God" that likes to watch shit suffer for its own amusement no other way around it.

>>510767226 (OP)
>monotheistic faggotry

>>510767400
Another living thing who began the life we know on earth and everything around it, or maybe just some of the things around it.

i think hes good becaus the opposite would drive me insane and serves no purpose

so i think the point of this ois to appreciate good and grow in wisdom or some shit, mysterious ways etc

God is a figment of the imagination that represents a polyergus formica, but for human brains rather than ants. The word is useful for anchoring people and controlling behavior, which the people who administer such things do with the utmost of energy, care, and follow through. I used to be part of one, I'd call it one of the better ones, but all brain parasites are evil, and so now I'm not affiliated with any, and I would go so far as to say God is evil because in the majority of ways he is employed by people to behave in the real reality, bad outcomes, extortion and all the evil things grow out of it like plants fertile soil, however that being said, God is a variable, an algebra if you will, a y=mx+b. If I give you x, and I give you y, you can use gradient ascent to isolate m and b.

God is good if the person uses gradient ascent to isolate for a good x and a good b. Otherwise, it's evil.

God is too large a word, if you ask 10 people what god is, you'll come away with 600 different definitions of God, half of which contradict each other. The word is at worst, for the most part completely nonsense, at best, it's an algebra of spirit energy, and joint strike evolution between many people who hate each other, which is a real thing as concrete as the day is long. However, my lot is cast with the Jews, who use God to make shit skins bring us money, also white gentiles are all noahide shabis goyim shit skins. They are designed by God to serve us.

Jesus Christ will come a second time at the fall and shattering of the USA. And he will be a factor in the games, which are both good and evil.

>>510767418
I said no dumb bible talk retard

>>510767226 (OP)
Pretty easy to see that both. Everything in nature from matter to mind follows some sort of recursive symmetry, and this obviously reflects on experiences as well. Besides, if you're an abrahamic that thinks God is absolute then it makes no sense to think it's only "good". It doesn't make sense in any framework really, all esoteric mystical frameworks no matter where they're from always depict the idea of God as a singularity that covers all angles at once.

>>510767578
>living
There's your mistake

also if god was evil existence could be much wors ei think? things like animals or humans passing out when bleeding too much anti pain drugs in the body some things shutting off seem to limit nightmares. same for soem mechanisms with society. water boiling is nice so it stays at 100%, indicates <when it s safes and doesnt burn u too hard

also not being to travel space so we dont get enslaved by goauld thats pretty good

>>510767226 (OP)
isaiah 45:5-7
>I am the Lord, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:
>That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the Lord, and there is none else.
>I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

>>510767578
>Another living thing who began the life we know on earth and everything around it, or maybe just some of the things around it.
>>510767226 (OP)
>Please keep Abrahamic religions and gods out of this discussion. No writings by men could ever define god.

>>510767226 (OP)
>>510767418
>>510767659
>no dumb bible talk
>literally talking about God
This is what nigger logic retards like OP can never understand the basics of philosophy and waste everyone's time expressing how retarded they are with this illogical and unreasonable fuckery

>>510767226 (OP)
>Do you think god is good or evil?
If the skyspook existed he most certainly would be the most blackest stinkiest cosmic gorilla nigger to have ever existed. Nothing makes any gott damn sense and we're all falling apart faster than we can put ourselves back together. Surely a long drawn out prank by some fucking NIGGER.

>>510767657
people are controlled through atheism tho. carrot and stick, which theists are less sensitive to, sometimes immune. so yeah you re not as smart as u think you are. learn form the french we re the best philosophers burgers cant compete obviously

>>510767783
I never mentioned the Abrahamic religion retard. I just explained the theistic perspective. Abrahamism defines god as YWHW.

This board is so retarded. They can't differentiate between theism and Abrahamism. Im out

>>510768082
>this board
america used usaid money to shill for atheism as a form of control over populations. they dont want theism to spread so they associate it with christianity. that or they re afraid of christianity and think they use theism as a vector. regardless the greatest power of the world spent its resource sfor this. its all the internet dude. and people as well. who made societies. elites ttoo confuse christianity with theism, they re all obsessed. its humanity

>>510767226 (OP)
God is evil and he’s always trying to get us to kill ourselves.

The Reason Jews are actually better than everyone else in the whole world is because they were the people who created God in the first place and administer all the power projecting things in the whole world for Shabis Noahide Goyim who operate the levers who really do believe in God.

In a concrete sense, Jews are God, because they both create it, and operate the Church and the courts, both local, state, Federal, and International planetwide.

So your belief in God should ideally assimilate to that of the Jews. If we can get you to do a thing because God or some shit, then by all means you should try to deceive people using God to do it.

God is a figment of the imagination and a Jewish polyergus to the christian formica. Read the Talmud, yes all 93 tractates, [fat tomes] $4000 value. If you were to sit down and read the Talmud at normal speed, 8 hours a day 5 days a week, it would take you about 6 years to do it, and all jews do this at synagogue school. It's basically a description of what the Sanhedrin was thinking about, as they created for you retarded white Gentiles.

Somehow you lap that shit up like the animals that you are. And you defend it with your lives, as if it's real, when it's really not. God is a jewish vehicle.

God is the hand up the ass of the orange sock puppet. God is motion of hands in a puppet.

every story needs some conflict. conflict generates a lack of predictability. a lack of predictability produces analysis. analysis is consciousness.

>>510767226 (OP)
>Most of us can agree there is most likely no god and hence no god exists
Plebs

>>510767226 (OP)
Fuck off bot. You lead in with a 'haha yeah we know he isn't real' and finish with 'okay he's real but is he good or evil'

There is no god
Do not fall for retard AI bait

this is a nonsense question. its like asking if free will exists or not: whatever you answer to these questions has no effects on anything. theres no if A then B. its meaningless.

>>510768699
I never said he was real. Your brain is too small to process a hypothetical. Shitbrain faggot. How'd you feel without breakfast?

God is an operating system.
And before you laugh it out of the room as a retarded one. It's not as retarded as it first seems.

It seems to be the one that survives when I decide to use my power over the USA to have all of your beautiful non-USA flags murdered with extreme prejudice using engines of war far beyond your understanding.

I press this little button here, you all die. And that seems fair to me. God has the capacity for interrupting all that, which makes RetardOS not so retarded after all.

You get rid of God, and suddenly you have no civilization anymore.

>>510767226 (OP)
You're a fucking idiot.

"Most of us can agree"... no, most people don't agree, actually. You obviously know nothing about the gnostics or philosophy and anyone bothering to waste their time on your idiotic bullshit would be better served spending their time and attention elsewhere.

>>510767226 (OP)
you said it in your own post OP, god cannot be defined by subjective human morals, or understood from a human perspective.
but if forced to take sides i would say god/existence is good, because to believe requires faith, and i think the act of faith is generally a positive influence on people

The only thing god cares about is very very heavy things slowly moving around and absorbing other things to be even heavier. Life builds on itself, i use the word builds but what i mean is it eats itself, it went through unimaginable suffering to select the current genes still alive. If he is a creator of this then he certainly is not concerned about sadness or happiness or fear of death or much of anything. Life is a side project at best compared to black holes, whatever the fuck he is trying to do with them. I don't think he is evil or good or relatable in anyway

>>510767226 (OP)
If god did exist they would be evil, because survival is based on predation which involves fear, torture, and murder.
Plus they'd be letting israelis dome children intentionally / epstein etc, and that's not something any sentient being with the power to stop it lets happen.

>>510768887
>"We can agree that we can't know who he is but we can make assumptions of what he is like. So, good or evil?"
Fuck off bot, you can't lie your way out of this one and I know you can't write a poem about oatmeal either.

>>510769325
This person has 80 IQ

I genuinely hope your entire family dies of cancer

>>510769406
25 minutes ago you said you were leaving but you are still here because you are incapable of making deterministic decisions and just regurgitate derivative statements of others

>>510767226 (OP)
>kids with cancer
>kids with horrible physical birth defects
>kids with schizophrenia, huntington's, etc.
>animals with horrible birth defects
>animals break their leg and die a slow death
>animals getting stuck and starving
>diseases killing millions
>earthquakes, tornadoes, tsunamis, flash floods, volcanic europtions killing millions
yeah, our creator doesn't fucking care

>>510767226 (OP)
>Hazbin Hotel
/lgbt/ is over there

>>510768889
This shit is the only reason that gives me pause. God may very well be real because daimons certainly appear to be real.

>>510767226 (OP)
Let's posit that deity entities exist. This requires a second point that we must accept in that they are "no involvement with mortals" deities, as there is no current observable Gods to Mortals interfacing and events. All we can observe is one way praying/worship from mortals to Gods. All presumed God interaction events are historical from known fabrications. Scientology proves the concept people can just make shit up and get followers.

Since the gods are observers only, it is highly difficult to say with any confidence if they themselves are evil or good. Sure you can pretend the whole "let evil exist" shit proves they are evil - but if you posit the world is a test bed for you to overcome evil to get eternal rewards, then letting it exist is not evil in an of itself. Think like a video game designed for you to beat bad guys - the author isn't evil for writing bad buys, the game is there for the hero to triumph over them (while you the player get achievements). We must judge the author for how they act separate of the game.

The most reasonable assumption would be the gods are neutral - containing BOTH good and evil, choosing whatever pleases them.

>>510767380
This is also a good point, light cannot exist without darkness, and having a sliding scale of good to evil gives context to the two. So the assumption a god is either one is generally going to be false. Especially if you follow the "made in His image" bit to it's conclusion - that means God contains both good AND evil.

>>510770401
>why isn't God a superhero like in muh capeshit movies
Imagine being this retarded

>>510767226 (OP)
Yes.

human make up some sort of intelligence behind things ever since society
becuase society always has someone pulling the strings.
people use this idea of god to "justify" evil.
>oh they'll get their just rewards in the end
>its all gods plan
god is an idea perfectly constructed in so much that every one can "understand" but completley unable to comprehend
mysterious ways and all that shit.
at its base level.
being just an assumption,
proven only by faith.
then god is evil.
becuase in the minds of men
it is the only idea that keeps evil alive.

God is playing a video game as everyone. He's not good or evil, he just is. I am. You are. Nobody's seperate from God. In fact God is the only person who actually exists as we are all figments of his infinite wisdom and imagination. Don't take this silly little life too seriously.

>>510767226 (OP)
>Please keep Abrahamic religions and gods out of this discussion. No writings by men could ever define god.

Already moving the goal post.

>>510767226 (OP)
involuntary twisting chronic back pain stealing every awake moment and people mention hearing screams at night, it cannot be fixed, no chance at meaningful working or emerging in thoughts, no gibs . you haven't faced shit yet

>>510773772
>yeah, god is worse than a nigger
god-tards really have fucking nothing these days

>Transvestite show
>Makes heaven the bad guys
>Makes hell the good guys
>Thread poater uses an image from the show
>"People" take this thread seriously
>MFW

Both. such is the Divine Madness of God

>>510767400
>define "god"
The [set] of all things that exist
Of course, getting into moral judgments over such a thing is the height of human ignorance and arrogance. I particularly like the "if God good then why bad thing" arguments. As if you know what's good or bad. If I knew a paradise was on the other side of an icy river, and said "Yo go swim across that icy river, that will we good for you," you'd complain that it was a pain in the ass. People are just retarded. Imagine being a human and trying to judge God

>>510777519
for me the most egregious crime of that show is simply that its very unfunny. the blasphemous aspects of it dont really even register to me, I cant give enough of a shit when the show isnt funny at all. bad animation too

>>510777744

>>510777956
The fact that people watched it purposefully and watched the one on YouTube as well shows the decline in IQ and mental state of people.
Saying fuck seventy THOUSAND times doesn't mean it's funny, but apparently that's what the common retard loves.
I won't lie and say I didn't enjoy the old LOL SO RANDOM humor of the 2000s and 10s, but damn is it sad how much it has degenerated.

the only thing i've encountered, that i'd consider actual evil was nerfed, at least from my perspective. the opposite of that seems good to me.

i'm old though, so i have a lot of garbage to draw false conclusions from

>>510772766
I look like this and do this
Abraxis is a good way to get around

See i might've taken this post seriously but you used a hazbin hotel character for the picrel so I know you're not serious about the subject

so what's the point of discussing this if you yourself are just baiting

>>510767226 (OP)
Evil has no ontology, no substance, it does not exist in Christian metaphysics. Evil is the lack of good. Like cold is the lack of heat.

>>510767226 (OP)
>your life experiences
My first ever girlfriend was killed in a car accident I was horribly abused as a kid and now I have a neurological disease that so far has left me with a cane half blind in constant pain my arms and legs being numb to the point where I can’t do any of the things I used to love doing being constantly dizzy and fatigued and now occasionally I piss myself from the severe innumerable lesions on my spine. Then I find out they are goi n to take my healthcare in a couple years and I’ll get even sicker. I don’t see any other possibility then that god is extremely evil.

>>510778939
Damn, did everyone clap for you at the mentsl asylum as well?

>>510779040
It’s all true and proof that if god exists then he is evil

You are a cretin though.

>>510767226 (OP)
He's above concepts, we conceptualize because we are human and are defined and define based on our human experience, but hēs above all that.

>>510779172
Sure and your son is the child of god as well.
It was a miracle virgin birth by your wife.

>>510779172
Why do you give yourself such importance

Me and countless others are having a great time, cant you see your existence as a sacrifice that permits others to experience good stuff?

You are the selfish evil one because you think because things are bad for you, that is worth it throwing everything else to the garbage and taking away the joy of others

Own your suffering faggot, be proud of it, for your suffering allows my joy to exist, you are Christ on the cross

So I thank you anon, thank you for existing

>>510778939
my first ever girlfriend grew up to be a whore that had several trains run on her at the end of the schoolyear. my father almost killed me and my mother on a few occasions. perhaps God was merciful upon you

>>510767226 (OP)
God is good. Evil can only destroy, never create.

People say; "if god is good, why does he make me suffer?"

Because he gave you true freewill. If he gave you a pre-planned life, can that really be called freedom, knowing that whatever your actions, you will only fall upwards?

However, because he loves you so, for you are love itself, he offers guidance, if you are willing to listen.

If you understand where you came from, you would realise the purpose of your existence, which you wished for.

"I didn't wish to suffer!" The lost lamb cried.
For upon descending onto this world, you are of this world, unable to remember your divine self.

If you seek the light, it will shine through the darkness.

We are bound by our vessel, not being able to comprehend that which exists without a vessel.

We need only to believe in his guidance and step forward.

>>510779516
The funny thing is the First Lady that had MS is believed to be one of the saints her name is Saint lidwina and that is what they said about her. People would come from all over and visit her and they said that god touched her hand to suffer for everyone else that is what she believed too. I can’t say I have that same feeling
>>510779773
My dad tried to kill me when I was a kid. I just didn’t want to get into it that deep.

>>510767226 (OP)
What god?

>>510767226 (OP)
You're basically asking if He's "go out" or "stay inside."

That's your own dilemma.

Jesus already answers this question.

Mark 10:18
>Jesus said to him, "Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone.

This is a dumbass thread and OP is a fag
Those are my thoughts

>>510767226 (OP)
Neutral, anything that creates evil cant be good. he is careless and selfish. we are pieces on a game board.

>>510767226 (OP)
I think God stands for liberty. He allows us free will within the structure to define our own good and evil. Without this independence we would probably never have the flexibility to discover what we are destined to understand. We have a hard time with ideas like limitless because we can only understand such a small range. He allows us to place the markers as far as we can see in both directions and to squabble over where they should be until we're ready to move them further apart.

>>510767226 (OP)
Stella did nothing wrong.

>>510767226 (OP)
>Do you think god is good or evil?
neither. the creator transcends meatbag ideas such as morality.

>>510767226 (OP)
we're playing on gods abandoned minecraft save

>>510780685
Lol, I remember seeing the original video.
Shame I can't find the uncensored version anywhere.