Using only reasons and logic, explain to me why people still believe in capitalism where they are the 99%?

>>510787865 (OP)
Lack of imagination.

Because there's at least a small possibility of of your own actions making your life better. Every communist country to date has failed to make this possible.

>>510787865 (OP)
They haven't been educated on national socialism, if they were then 99% would ofcourse become one

>>510787865 (OP)
I believe in Fascism (corporatism) instead.

>>510788267
>>510788276
>fell for it again award

>>510787865 (OP)
SWAMP = CUM

>>510787865 (OP)
Capitalism is the only economic system that works, hence it’s the only system that can be infested by parasites. There’s no real functioning alternative, not even in theory. It has little to do with belief. This is a hard pill to swallow for idealists that live by dogmas incompatible with reality.

>>510788284
kikes?

>>510788354
wdym?
Corporatism made the Nordics the best place to live on earth. The Nordic model is essentially fascism-lite. The Swedish "Folkhemmet" idea is basically a direct copy of the German National-Socialist "Volksgemeinschaft". The problem in the Nordics for the past 30 years is that capitalist have gotten into power more and more and we have strayed from the path. But this could easily be reversed.

>>510787865 (OP)
communists cant comprehend large numbers

Economic systems are legitimately meaningless because racial purity supercedes whatever retardation you subscribe to

>>510788276
We already have corporatism. Europe and japan have been practicing economic fascism for a long time.

>>510788354
Yes I fell for advocating for my own ethnicity and race, I think thats a good thing, communists only want to kill as many of their own people as possible and put the worst possible psychopaths in human history in power as history shows

>>510788586
>Folkhemmet
Oh look, it’s just capitalism + parasites.
There’s no economic model that is not based on capitalist production.

>>510788727
My favorite finn poster is posting

>>510788786
My favourite canadian poster is posting

>>510788876
I will heil your energy making all these shitskin losers shut the fuck ulp

You are quite literally the rock /pol/ doesn't deserve but needs

SOCIALISM
ONLY
WORKS
UNTIL
THEY
RUN
OUT
OF
OTHER
PEOPLES
MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>510788718
Only in a very light way and mostly for the benefit of capital. I want it truly. Large scale state run enterprises, a guild economy, all of it.

>>510789130
Said the billionaire and his simps

>>510787865 (OP)
I do not 'believe' in it, I just think it works somewhat with the reality of humans and their innate greed, which communist pipedreams simply do not.
Only way I'd trust in communism is if we let some impartial open-source AI fully control the economy.
But as long as humans are the ones try apply it, I'd take even fucking monarchy or open feudalism over commies.

capitalist overlap with communist only in the sense that their isms are founded on material not ideals
so human nature is their political solution to everything like a snake eating itself
when political solutions were never a truth to begin with

both have one goal in mind and it's secularism
the erosion of solidarity

>>510787865 (OP)
I don't believe in either capitalism or communism. I want to live in a community, not under any kind of fake ideology.

>>510789130
Socialistic polices can work in a 100% euro nation

See the dole in anglo society and or the orgins of welfare
Nonwhite immigration ruined this rhetoric

>>510787865 (OP)
>secede from country that is against slavery.... good
>secede from capitalism that is against slavery.... good
>secede from jesus.... bad
okay kike

>>510787865 (OP)
Zero difference between communism and late stage capitalism, both a system in which a few rich statecorp jews own everything, and you the worker goy own nothing. Capitalism is retarded yeah but anyone who thinks communism is the answer is objectively low iq and intellectually inferiour. Imagine getting tricked by a homeless jew who wanted to speedrun late state capitalism

>>510789027
I have been addicted to this place for a decade, I cant leave

>>510789483
17 years for me i see everything
Which is why i like your posts im a pathological lurker

>>510787865 (OP)
The farthest left I will go is SocDem.

>>510789139
Yeah that would probably be good

>>510787865 (OP)
I agree with you completely about the majority of issues.
I do not see monopolies however as capitalists.
I see many of the marxist and communist supporters as better and more capable capitalists who have never been allowed to shine.
I do not see any pathways for all people to become the best they can become when there is such a heavy grasp held amongst the population.

I want to see morality, unique products, added value from those who are called communists.

If these people were allowed to flourish, allowed a career, allowed to create then we would see so much more incredible things in this world.

To answer your rhetorical question about the 99%. The 99% believes themselves to be smarter and better in every single way than those who actually rule them. Then these 99% fall into a well planned foolish repetitive behavior which acts against the interests of people who seek to provide more for everyone.

I see this is an unfixed people morality issue more than Capitalism vs Marxism.

>>510788586
This map demonstrates that every single country on planet earth other than Anglo and European countries is enslaved by it's government.

>>510789828
Monopolies aren't a problem until they abuse their monopolistic position. Like Microsoft did, and as Google and Cloudflare are doing now.

>>510790049
Would you like to list every single monopoly on planet earth?

>>510787865 (OP)
I've been to Vietnam. FUCK THAT SHIT! I'll be the 99% if it means I don't have to live like them!

>>510790108
Not really. You are little more than scum to be honest, so there isn't much to speak with you about.

>>510787865 (OP)
Define "capitalism" oh you can't

>>510790163
Slave economies are made by people who come from non-anglo and non-european countries.

>>510790356
Don't care, Communist. Get genital cancer and die horribly.

>>510790424
All terrible ideas come from non-anglo and non-european peoples.
All terrible ideas are encouraged by the same people.
All terrible ideas are followed on mass by the same people.

>>510790424
The idea that a non-anglo and non-european is oppressed comes from being around non-anglos and non-europeans.

Living in terrible conditions because these horrible people have hidden great creations from your eyes and denied what is obvious is not a problem created by rich people nor a problem created by anglos and europeans.

The truth is that this problem is amplified ten-fold by poor morality.

The worst part is that most of these people do not even know that their parents have destroyed their lives.

>>510787865 (OP)
communism is slavery

>>510790486
>>510790708
You're a communist. You are not human.

>>510790826
I'm not a communist nor a capitalist.
You are an idiot.

These structures do not accurately represent the reality of this world.

You need to take a step back.

>>510790826
Are you fucking 12 years old?

>>510787865 (OP)
> Fascism
> Systemic racism
> Nationalism
> Anti-left
I'm in

>>510787865 (OP)
Socialism/communism is just theft by faggots that have no plan after the theft, while capitalism in its purest form is working hard and getting a decent-to-amazing life because of it.

>>510787865 (OP)
chances are anyone reading this is in the global 1%

>>510790917
Keep bleating, Commie.
>>510790946
Chiang or Ranjeesh?

>>510790252
This

>>510790356
>>510790486
These, too

>>510787865 (OP)
Sure.
In short, I believe capitalism is the system that allows for the most freedom while being the most difficult to completely upset.
the brilliant thing about capitalism is its immense variety and modularity. Did you know full on socialism isn't mutually exclusive with capitalism?
Certain subsets like neoliberal capitalism, freemarket capitalism, or corportatism, do have many genuine issues. But even with those, there are outs. Unions, boycotts, violence, these are not rebellions against capitalism they are integral components of the system.
A communist system would essentially shatter from any kind of successful revolt by the lower classes, but capitalism? Revolt by the lower classes is what keeps that system running!
there is almost nothing you can do to actually break a capitalist system, and simultaneously any problems created under it are, relatively speaking, pretty easy to resolve. You can decommodify housing, clear debt, abolish the stock market, take away corporations' legal rights, guarantee people a meal a house and a well laying job and actually deliver on that goal, all within the bounds of the system with literally just like one successful revolution and a couple of principled leaders. And, AND, another ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT thing, because the system basically runs itself with oversight only being necessary to prevent abuses, not to actively run everything, you can create a bunch of beaurueacracy so that even a fully committed anti-working-class leadership class can be effortlessly kept in check for DECADES.
And if the system every does somehow collapse? It just reforms back into itself, look what happrned with post WWII germany and italy, and those countries are doing FANTASTIC now! God what a good system.

>>510791103
Whiter than you wanna prove it with a timestamp faggot?

>>510788674
and yet America is the most economically, technologically, militarily, culturally, and politically important and successful country on the planet despite being one of the most ethnically diverse?

>>510791549
Those systems sans cultural came to be when they were racially homogenous
What are you even arguing?

>>510791733
America was never racially homogenous since its inception. Black people made up such a significant portion of the population that southern states demanded their SLAVES count towards giving them extra votes. Then we fought a whole civil war over black slaves. Native Americans literally only live here, we've had Latinos coming in since the colony days, Chinks were late to the party granted but America didnt really get big until 1920ish and the first big wave of Asian immigration happened in the 1860s and 70s.
America had been extremely racially diverse long before we became prominent

>>510792026
>Black people made up such a significant portion of the population that southern states
Pull up a census you retarded faggot or the cost of a slave
YOU ARE LYING

i dont even believe capitalism is a real thing. I think it's an actual higelian dialectic/marxist magick spell designed to split the cognitive mind from thinking in terms of "free market" and replacing it with "capital", aka money. Then after the seperation of freedom from the concept, they offer the dialectic, communism or capatlism. Now they got you, thinking in their terms. No one talks about monopolies anymore (freedom), they talk about getting rich or defending the opportunity to as freedom(capital). Then they change your overton window to actually defend their idea by introducing communism, which is literally just a transitional stage whereby through genocide they create a Jewagarchy. Capitalism is the same thing. Of course one would argue Adam Smith supported " free market capitalism", but you can't combine their higelian dialectic spellcasting with preexisting ideas because language matters. Just ask BLM commiejews, language matters, xenophobe.

>>510792113
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc2.ark:/13960/t3708cg71&seq=26
Here you go. Almost half the population of a couple states were black if you include slaves

>>510787865 (OP)
capitalism worked wonderfully before the jews subverted it. we don't need to get rid of capitalism, we need to get rid of jews.

>>510792374
It doesn't specifically say negro slaves though
Indentured irish or asiatic railroad workers are also valid lmao
Feel free to prove me wrong

>>510787865 (OP)
Communists have no solution to the corruption and oligarchy problem.

>>510792645
indentured servants weren't considered slaves dumbass. That was a separate thing legally speaking, also, asian railroad workers are also not white.

Positive-sum actors are capitalist, negative-sum actors are parasites, simple as.

>>510792912
"he doesn't get it"
Just lol

>>510787865 (OP)
i believe in chaos system
the only real system is true anarchy
everyone for themselves

>>510791267
Glownigger.

>>510793543
If i was a fed i wouldn't waste my time on here retard

>>510787865 (OP)
lmao, nigger.

>>510787865 (OP)
Sure, it's actually super easy
People can remember that for all the problems they've lived beneath a capitalist system and their lives have steadily improved
Meanwhile we can look at history and see the USSR being a totalitarian shithole that collapsed
Therefore despite commies claiming that they want what's best for everyone they conclude that the commies are full of shit
It's actually very easy and intuitive and just good sense

>>510790815

Just another instance of capitalism projecting it's own evil and failures on socialism. Every criticism is a secret admission of guilt.

>>510788538
Socialism did work though. In many countries across history. And it still functions in many places

Capitalism was the friends we made along the way.... the friends we made along the way. Along the way...

>>510787865 (OP)
Lack of brain cells. Why do you think they became wagies to begin with?

>>510788538
How is this supposed capitalist system different from what you'd see in a monarchy? (whatever their economic system should be called)
>king Blackus Rockus nominally owns everything
>under him are the 1% aristocrats
>then comes jews
>then a "middle class"
>the 95% below are wagies or worse
Your mental development is retarded by centuries.

>>510794876
>for all the problems they've lived beneath a capitalist system and their lives have steadily improved
Wut? Can you name a SINGLE example of people's lives improving under capitalism, for reasons of capitalism (instead of entirely unrelelated things like technology or medicine).
>muh TV got "better"
Into the gas with you.

>>510797373
Guess thee supremee irony there is that.. basically this applies only to China? Their shit improved over some 2-3 decades adopting more capitalist policies; yet are they even capitalist? Now real capitalist will say they are because there's too much state control and socialism.
Hell, if your capitalism somehow improved the common man's life you may as well call it socialist, because most likely that's what it's actually is. Capitalism cannot improve non-capitalists (=poor ppl's) life by definition: it would be a failure of capitalism and a loss of capital if it did.