Men have low T nowadays. Would just one cycle cure mens low T problems? Would we be better than before after a cycle?

Will it make you feel better mentally aswell? Any anons with experience?

What is a good age to start with the test and shit. Should we all start cycles and be herculessees? Will all the political problems be solved with extra illegal batches of testosterone?

At what age should be get extra T?

Will your own T production recover after just one cycle?

>>510806195 (OP)
the problem with exogenous testosterone is that there is no off-ramp
once you start replacing what your body makes naturally, the hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular axis gets effectively suppressed
if you have abysmally low testosterone to begin with, then no harm no foul
if you make some but not enough, supplementing will only further shut down what you naturally make

>>510806195 (OP)
Women have low T too. That's why they're not putting out.

>>510806195 (OP)
Eat natty, sleep well, exercise regularly, avoid prescription meds, meditate to lower stress hormones, win.
Roidfags are the worst kind of junkies

>>510806414
Nobody on here has any test

You’re a fag if you dont get hard from this natural girl btw

>>510806494
So no ritalin anymore?

>>510806494
How come that didn't work for you?

>>510806609
Hahaha

>>510806532
His head turned wider aswell. I like a bigger head to thank you very much

Any roid anon here? Whats the deal? Will it make me feel great? Tell us. Politically

>>510806195 (OP)
No a tests cycle will likely lower it long term.
You need Enclomiphene which will boost your test through your own bodies mechanism. If you are a fat weak fuck neet like many of us here and I was

>walk as much as possible
>eat 200 grams of protein a day
>lift weights x3 a week focusing on muscle mind connection at first
>Do cardio 2x a week get fit
>do a cycle of Enclomiphene and if you want better metabolic health ostartine and cardarine if you dont mind possible cancer risk.

You likely feel weak and angry at the world because you are weak fat, unattractive and do not earn any money. get a job no matter how shit and start saving for a deposit. I started at 30 and would rather die than go back to being a fat worthless neet but You have to burn through it.

WHat ever circumstance. parents, your own nature you never fought for strength. YOu never competed in sports as a child. You never learned to push your body to get stronger. YOu are weak and fundamentally lesser than a fit person. It is not just genetics but epigenetics. Your body is expressing that is a social failure and making to suffer in hopes you understand you must push forward or die. Also praise God and thank him for making you suffer because comfort has destroyed us

>>510806195 (OP)
My T is stuck at 250ng/dl.
I eat healthy and work out but nothing seems to help, I lived near a processing plant for a long time which may have messed with my hormone levels.

>>510806195 (OP)
External hormone treatment will always change the internal production. Go ahead and try it, then report back after 6 months.
You clearly don't exercise or don't even know how to eat properly.

>>510807180
You need to powerlift and eat saturated fats. Goes against most "healthy" advocated regimes.
You have plenty of resources online. Westside Barbell is a great keyword.

>>510807072
My natural t is at 680
I workout everyday push ups and other calistenics. I look good but i want to feel better. I read alot of people on test feel better. Is that the shit?

>>510807329
I exersize everyday. I just didnt do test ever. A friend of mine is pretty big and he is always happy, i thought it was the test that makes him happy

>>510807180
>250ng/dl
Isn't that shockingly low?

>>510807329
Did you do test or is it just hearsay

>>510807559
Yeah thats pretty low i guess. Depends on age. Im 38 and 680

I have theory that doing oush ups and pulls ups alot keeps natural test higher

>>510807464
I never took test just enchlo and ostarine so serm and sarm. The first few days on I feel like a ultra giga beast. Like I gooned with a femboy on soc for 4 hours then after like 4 days all the extra test thrown off my receptors settles and I feel probably 30% less horny but like zero anxiety and just a general feeling of chill and drive to do stuff.

test seems a crap shoot some folk feel amazing some feel so much anxiety they wana die. I for sure take part in far more risky things since I lost weight. It is just a general feeling of not giving a fuck

>>510806904
Im on a cycle of Tren Ace right now. Week 3. I also take Test C as well. Tren Ace EOD and the Test C twice a week at 300mg, so 150 each time. Tren Ace is at 100mg. I am getting great results. Ive been on the Test about 4 months.

>>510807642
Sounds gay. Do you keep on cycle all the time now? Or was it a one time thing?

>>510807686
First cycle? Do you feel better than off it?

I wouldnt want to be huge or anything. Im stuck at 80kg now and want to be 100kg or something. Im 1,82 lenght

>>510807694
Ive done a few so far the first was giga dangerous at 135kg swimming 4k running n shit lol. Im 5,10. I used it because on my cut down to 100 kg then 92kg I legit wanted to kill myself I was so tired. I am treating myself to a mini recomp bulk right now before I take the plung down to 15% bf for the first time then onward onto death

Its actualy really funny but 100kg was the point people started considering me human and talking about how bad the other fats smelled like I was one of them

You are a homo if you’re not getting hard from this btw

>>510807870
Thanks for reply. Do you have to keep the cycles going all the time now? How many times a year would you need to cycle?

>>510806195 (OP)
Whybois be low T an sheit, haf to stuck a needle up they ahh to be more like us

>>510806195 (OP)
Cycling lowers your T, retard.
It's why the steroids-to-trannies pipeline is absolutely real.

>>510807969
For sarms you are fine because they only suppress you a bit unless your rad 140 or something mental. Enclomiphene basically just tricks your body into producing more test than normal but its a balance. For me atleast coming off either is just a few weeks of feeling shit and moody. I think cardarine legit changed my metabolism permanently and Enclomiphene seems to have boosted my test long term from my gains but I still am fat so hard to say really.

>>510806195 (OP)
These threads should be banned and sent to /r9k/, watching losers desperate look for chemical solutions to not being losers is fucking pathetic. /pol/ being overrun by bottom of the barrel losers is the worst thing to happen to this board.

>>510807969
>15/30 posts in this thread
maat, kom aan

>>510808215
Whats a sarms? Sounds like one without downsides

>>510808219
Thanks for the bumb

>>510806532
Left is attractive to 90% of women. Looks like he knows how to work a room, a bar or a board meeting. Has a trust fund, doesn't need to do anything or answer to anyone. Can live the rock n roll bad boy lifestyle, beach bum or transition to business owner with 3 kids and a jet. Whatever he wants, he gets.

Right looks like Gregg Wallace, ie an annpying sperg overcompensating for his shitty personality with roids. Wife will marry him and have duty sex while dreaming of the day he has a subcortial heomorage and she can openly date the pool boy in peace.

Men can fool other men with lifestyle upgrades some of the time, but you'll never fool a woman. They're bred to sniff out inauthenticity and incongruence in 0.2 seconds.

Most of these men need castration, not T. Let their genes die out naturally, leaving the rightous alphas and righteous hard working betas to run the world. Not entitled boys with the brains of high school mean girls.

>>510807729
Yes, first cycle on Test (kinda). I did Tren Ace 5 years ago but didnt know shit and was on test as well but only for like 4 weeks and I drank every day. I had to go every week to the clinic to get the shot. Now my place I go will mail it to me so its much more convenient. I feel better I guess. I dont know the laws in your country or your age. Im 47 and my Test level naturally was 390 in March. On Test I am at 950 in July.

>>510807072
How come that didn't work for you?

>>510806195 (OP)
Testosterones should be illegal.
I'd rather have men staying home, doing Lego unboxing videos, than shooting and beating each other up.

>>510808403
Sarms are Selective Androgen receptor modulator s
They are basically a type of test that has a higher affinity to bond with the receptors test uses. Basically they were developed for muscle wasting illness to work like roids without the androgenic sides effects and issue of shutting down natural test. Ostarine, rad 140, tk11 n shit fit here

Serms in the same sort of area
Selective Estrogen receptor modulators like enclomiphene do the same sort of thing but with estrogen by fucking with your pituitary gland n shit

If you fat as shit watch for blood pressure, liver problems and gyno and you should be ok

>>510808738
Why? If it makes you feel better? What if your test is low and you’re a shell of a human being. Why not do test

>>510808629
It did though I was a neet and now I own my flat, having a job I love, great friends and meeting a girl tomorrow. Read it again if it struck this much of a nerve

>>510808784
Im not fat. So it also fucks with hornones? Dang. Do shortcuts even exist anymore?

>>510808928
Sure but they come with risk. EVen one or 2 cycles of test are pretty safe but most get addicted. Unless they destroyed it recently chat gpt was good for roid info

>>510809005
My theory is men who are on anti depressants should just do roids. Why fuck up your brain with ssri’s and feel like shit. Betrer get some meat on you and feel better on cycle with test

This it what natural females would look like 1000 years ago

>>510809137
Not a bad idea. Your body expresses your social status so breaking the cycle helps a lot. Even in monkeys being low ranking and bitchless increases the amount of risky behavior they do.
Depression n shit is not bad but your body saying listen I would rather die than keep being you. Its probably the most misunderstood thing in modern times

>>510808915
I got the perfect pic of you.

>>510809408
> your body saying listen I would rather die than keep being you

This is creepy

>>510809414
Roid can help with that according to some. Gives motivation they say. Thats what i would take it for

Babes

>>510809992
>>510810797
Sounds perfect for dysgenic biogarbage like you.

>>510810932
You sound angry

>>510806195 (OP)
Go to the doctor and get a testosterone test.
It will come back low
They will try to give you a cream to rub on your chest.
Say it gives you a rash or something
Then you will get an injection in your ass cheek every 3 weeks.
Make sure to work out every day or you'll just get really fat

>>510809907
Its a scary thought but a lot of cultures understand it better than the modern socially autistic person. The body can only express its will in metaphor. It is the nature of existence to grow, change through suffering, death and rebirth.
The only battle in life that really matters is the one against ourself. Comfort is the enemy. I always struggled when I believed I was working to earn doing nothing but never realizing I felt best in the struggle.

>>510811086
I did a free test check last year at a clinic and it was ok for my age. I think its ok for normal range but what if it was higher, maybe my natural test was even higher, right?

We all have lower test because of the micrplastics, so eventhoughbeit my test is ok due to todays values, they’re proabbly low compared to my 100 year ago self

>>510811414
> The body can only express its will in metaphor.

Do you have an example of this?

>>510811783
I just mean that the body does not understand changing how you live it only understands killing be it yourself or an objective. I have never really thought about it really lol. It just makes sense to me intrinsically

>>510812376
Well the subconscies mind is a weird thing.
Billions are spent in advertising, eventhough i think it doesnt influence me, it probably does.

They say the sub conscies mind doesnt know a movie is fake, its all reality to it, and then giving those vobes to your body.

Your mind knows its fake, the subconscies mind doesnt.

I dotn know how to spel subconsisesc, but you understand the jist i hooe

>>510812376
I mean whats worse for your body, doing coke or shooting test?

>>510813450
depends on a lot of things, but the latter is probably less safe than snorting cocaine once

>>510806559
>You’re a fag if you dont get hard from this natural girl btw
Obviously
>natural
Who cares? No makeup, hairy armpits, and free-bleeding periods are "natural". White people didn't invent cosmetic, athletic, and pharmaceutical technologies to remain "natural".

>>510813450
Both are only really big issues if their use becomes chronic

>>510806414
Yeah.. doc wanted me to go on test. But the cause was due to thyroid disease nothing wrong with my balls they just didn't get the order. So when I started going on thyroid hormone suddenly my test started to skyrocket on its own. Glad I held off on starting test to see what the thyroid meds did.

>>510817028
I had my thyroid removed, do you have Hypo or Hyper?

>>510808587
Who fucking cares? One is a victim to anyone who wants to harm him, the other has the natural ability to subject anyone and everyone to his will, also any female preferring the left is on pills to warp their view on attractiveness and masculinity, if you want a naturally feminine woman, lift like a motherfucker and act in a just manner.

Yeh I probably have low t.
Working out kinda helps.

>>510817805
Test can be complicated though because total test tells you very little sometimes. YOU get total which is free+bound test. Only free test is active and SHBG is what modulates it. DHT levels and a few other things can have a big effect on how you feel along with estrogen levels which are tied to test

WHen I was on enclo + ost my total test was low but my free was high and my SHBG was really low

>>510807072
> When you start lifting focus on muscle mind connection at first
Severely underrated advice right here.
If you're a fat chunko that's never been to the gym before don't even worry about what routine or whatever. Just get your fat ass in the gym and learn how to move the weights. Seriously. Be easy on yourself in the sense that you really don't know what the fuck you're doing and you're just getting comfortable being at the gym. At the same time don't delay in this phase for too long like eventually you have to get serious. But yes, give yourself some time just to get started in the gym. Not even really worried about specific routines or weights or whatever. Just move something fatso

>>510817252
hypo. its damn near dead it seems. I think covid killed it or my Irish genes kicked in right around that time lmao.

>>510808629
Left one works out without roids, right works out wirh roids. Right is unnatural if you're not a manlet that just pumped some iron and took a photo shortly after.


BTW Left literally looks like me and I'm still a virgin because I never leave the house KEK

>>510818278
What is better squat or deadlift, politically?

>>510807440
Squat or deadlift?

>>510806195 (OP)
when you jump on the juice train your own t production will completely tank and you will be bound to it forever.

injecting chemicals is not what anyone would want to do to increase t.

eat raw meat and cheese+milk. thats the best you can get. you need to be in hormonal balance. will make you feel good.

i wish i was a woman. could this be caused by low T?

Will picrel be attainable on a couple of cycles?

>>510820355
Some say it can come back to normal levels

A real woman. You’re not straight if you dont get rockhard for this

>>510808508
They are building muscle around their egos. They are not healthy, they eat tons of meat and have compacted colons. As soon as you hand them a salad they will make some sort of bullshit excuse, as their guts are full of parasites, mucous, candida, and other diseases.

the citizen copies the citizen pastes until my cock magic is fixed

>>510820773
Stop.

>>510822945
Ok last one

>>510806195 (OP)
you can recover from a cycle, you can recover from some really bad abuse desu. I ran several back in my hayday. It definitely wont fix anything wrong with you, in fact it will add more issues if you not mentally stable going in. Being on gear is a wild ride and you wont be able to recognize how crazy and weird you're being until you have a few years distance from the entire thing.

MY last cycle lasted 12 weeks, maybe 4 years ago. I got my T checked last fall and I was at 620+. You really need to do some serious research before you dive into this, and you need to buy all the drugs for failsafes even if you dont use them. I recommend getting a finasteride prescription on the side as well as an AI. You need your post cycle therapy drugs bought already, I wanted even get a little more than you need just in case.

>>510823167
What age did you start? 600 range is pretty good. You never gonna take it again?

>>510824641
I started when I was 26, purely for fun. I was at the gym every day for the the past two years prior to starting, and i had been working out since highschool prior to that. I basically wanted to up my game and I really enjoyed it but had some weird stuff happen now and again. I wont likely go back to it because I started to get some weird feelings around my heart and I couldnt shake the feeling something was going to happen if I didnt stop. Blood work looks good for me these days so I think recovery is an option, as long as you're not on a year long cycle there is always a way back

>>510819686
Sqwaktz fo lyfe son
Deads r cool but let's be honest: Squats are the hardest and the most rewarding

I've heard it's better to get shots of hCG which make your balls bigger instead of taking shots of T which cause your balls to shrink. I'm not entirely sure how true it is.

>>510806195 (OP)
Not if you are bald, if bald you are fucked regardless what you do.

But if you a good head of hair and the roids don’t make you bald, it can change your life. But you need to have somewhat a life to begin with. If loner you will just end up muscular loner with more confidence but still be a shut in