I saw so much resentment against it online

>>510825350 (OP)
It's like a minute steak except it's made of concrete instead of cattle flesh, and it's 15 times longer.

>>510825350 (OP)
The Motte and Bailey is they advocate the 15 minute city, but what they really want is to depopulate the planet by at least 80%

>>510825350 (OP)
I think one time someone broke the data down and in order to make this work you would need to build more hospitals, schools and everything else. It would be an absurd number too because "everything" has to be 15 minutes from you and that is not always feasible. It's typical of radical left thinking; it looks great on paper but in practice it won't work.

>>510825607

>>510825350 (OP)
Creating little ghetto cage you never get to leave and you get penalized for leaving your containment zone because of climate change. Meanwhile the people who rule over you live on palatial estates, private planes, yachts and cars that still have ice engines and you get a fucking bike and live in a cuck box 200sqft apartment and get allotted 8oz of lab grown meat twice a month.

>>510825350 (OP)
>15-minute city
So they mean... a 'city'?

Are Burgers discovering how White people have been living for hundreds of years?

>>510825350 (OP)
walking past niggers and white trash is dangerous and demoralizing

nigger would ruin everything

>>510825712
so like a medieval peasant.

>>510825350 (OP)
1 minute to the nearest nigger

>>510825350 (OP)
The only thing that's wrong with it is that they want to impose this to forbid us to use cars and other freedoms in general. It would be ok in a free country but it's going to be used to just restrict the population's rights

>>510825784
Every 15 minute city I visited in Europe was overran by feral niggers and mudslimes. Good job, eurocucks

>>510825607
>what they really want is to depopulate the planet by at least 80%
Based
Noone needs billions of semites, jeets and niggers

>>510825350 (OP)
If a city is not a 15 minute city, there's a very good reason for it. Enforcing it with regulations and laws is a fucked up idea.

>>510825826
Kinda except mixed with all the new tracking and surveillance technology dystopia

>>510825350 (OP)
Nothing - if the cities are White

>>510826010
And none of the social cohesion too.

>>510825350 (OP)
We need to sit in a traffic jam for 2 x 30 minutes every day to own the libs.

>>510825350 (OP)
jews

>>510825921
Walkable Italian cities are great for Nouveau-Europeans that arrive without a means of transportation

>>510825629
you have to understand that the people coming up with these utopian wishes are liberal white people who think you can have your traditional white people village from the olden times AND also have niggers roaming around. behind all the science talk is the wish for a simpler time because even the dumbest goy is slowly understanding that we are about to enter a horrific hellscape dystopia where humans will be ground into cyborg fuel.

>>510826080
Explain

>>510825350 (OP)
no one wants the entire world only 15 minutes from the front door

>>510826111
It might work in Europe because the average European country is so tiny.

>>510825958
Sorry britbong, but those useful idiots are exactly who the elite want to replace you with

>>510825350 (OP)
I live in a 15 minute driveable city.

>>510826051
Don’t worry bro you’ll have your AI waifu and AI friends on your VR headset. You can even enjoy the sights and sounds of the mountains and seas from the comfort of your chair, no need to pay the tax leave your 15min area to see them in real life!

>>510825350 (OP)
>What's wrong with the 15 minute city concept?

Nothing wrong, in practicality....

Who doesn't want to live in a neighbourhood where all their needs are met within a 15min walking distance.

...but I think what people fear the most is a "Hunger Games" scenario, where one 15-minute City gets all the perks and the other city doesn't. And in order to get those perks, you have to have the right people residing in them.... which basically isn't any different than it is now, except "they" can better control you.

>>510825350 (OP)
The powers that be have a new system that has been in the development for decades now, ready to be rolled out in the coming years. It will operate in parallel starting sometime this year and by the next decade it will be fully operational as the Agenda 2030 goals are slowly being implemented.
There will be no collapse, no violence, no uprising, no world war, no revolution, no killing of jews or politicians or other such fantasies. Instead there will be law & order, compliance and total surveillance until the very end. AI will be at the center of it all.

The Great Reset is inevitable.

I already live like that because I have no life and I don't even live in a real city but I still have what I need here. The problem with these plans they show is they want some green politician psychopaths micromanaging everything you do.

>>510825350 (OP)
It involves being in even closer proximity to brown people.

>>510826059
>>510826189
>>510826278
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRSBiTF3wNw

It’s a totally reasonable method for city planning and 10x better than the goy ‘burbs or nigger hoods we have now, but they use faggot globohomo words like how walkable neighborhoods contribute to “equity and sustainability” that makes people instantly hostile.

>>510825350 (OP)
Wait until you're sick (seriously sick) and have to bike 15 minutes to the hospital

I call them villages

>>510825678
What do they eat?

>>510825350 (OP)
Indeed, women should be immediately geofenced into a delimited social area with limited partners and high social consequences in order to pressure them into a functional state.

>>510825350 (OP)
They accomplish it by reducing car infrastructure and making long distance travel outside of hub regions harder.

>>510825350 (OP)
I live in one, it's a boomer town but very livable still, everything you need is a short walk away.
It's still a retarded idea because nobody is building new cities to begin with and it would be impossible to rework an esisting city into a walkable one without an authoritarian government.

>>510826717
Dumb lefty faggots in my city talk about how much more space we would have if we got rid of all the parking lots.

>>510825350 (OP)
there's nothing wrong with them if you can drive too

>>510826780
>it would be impossible to rework an esisting city into a walkable one without an authoritarian government.
Now you get it…

>>510825350 (OP)
it's designed to optimize martial law lockdowns

>>510825350 (OP)

It's a bland plan to make cities healthier. The bad thing is that they will use the force of government to make it happen. The worse thing is that it's not actually about health of the city, it's the control of the people's movement, another excuse for increasing surveillance.

>>510825947
all cities are 15 min cities here but true

>>510825350 (OP)
the outer blue perimeter they're not telling you about

>>510825350 (OP)
Basically all Italian cities have this concept, i live in a small city and have everything within a walking distance, i never use the car really just when going to work

>>510826218
"The elite" are degenerated dysgenic kikes and their days are numbered

>>510826059
>a traffic jam for 2 x 30 minutes every day
15 minute cities don't actually address commute. It would be great to have a short commute but employer that offered me a job was 30 minutes away.

>>510825350 (OP)
Only works in segregated areas without niggers

>>510826841
The point is there will be no driving other than the green party members driving in taxis or flying weekly. They have made sure you will not be polluting, thus they are morally a net positive so they are allowed to have some pollution.

>>510826495
>Wait until you're sick (seriously sick) and have to bike 15 minutes to the hospital
That's my favorite way to reply to any anti-car thread. Posting a picture of a pregnant woman going into labor and saying she needs to get to a hospital, where every form of transportation other than a car immediately reveals itself to be worthless.

>>510827352
Those are big words beans on toast, but don’t forget that Airstrip One only saw a massive increase in boat crossings since Brexit, and the true victims of the Manchester Arena Bombings / Rotherham Rape Gangs / Dunblane Massacre etc are the New-British Muslim arrivals being labeled as potential terrorists. Now, as you know, you live in a non-egalitarian society, so know your rank and status and make your city comfortable for your replacement as your betters demand

>>510827142
That's what I was going to say, it's just an American rebranding of Europoor cities. No thanks

>>510825629
Lol lmao. They plan to jam you into the Kowloon walled city, outlaw leaving your assigned area and then you get whatever stores and amenities they deign to give you. 5 minutes of reading what these people actually say instead of just swallowing their marketing campaign would demonstrate the truth of this. You'll own nothing and be happy.

>>510825350 (OP)
Niggers exist

>>510828800
Don’t forget the water being filled with SSRIs to keep the populace complacent. In fact, I would imagine a eugenics program for an adrenchrome farm

>>510825629
Yeah except the schools would be smaller so would the hospitals. The way you are talking about make me thing you are either an idiot that can't read or the shit you were reading was written by an idiot.

>>510825350 (OP)
I'd just like cities to be less car-centric. Fuck your loud truck, god damn you.

>>510829013
>they'll give you hospitals and schools
hahaha

>>510825350 (OP)
im just not gonna livenin a 15 minute walkable niggercattle feedlot, thats all

Wait, so everything is up to 15 minutes from the middle of the city, not 15 minutes from you? So you could be as far as 30 minutes from something in a 15 minute city?

It’s nothing to do with what the propaganda says. It’s gaza style concentration camps and you are not allowed to leave your 15 minute 1 mile sector.

>>510825350 (OP)
It will be weaponized during the next covid-tier false flag to restrict movement. In the meantime it will make surveillance easier.

>>510829245
You sound like you don't want to carry a week's worth of groceries for half an hour in summer heat

>>510825399
no, auschwitz was the first 15 minute walkable niggercattle feedlot. everything they needed was within walking distance and they received all lifes necessities including shelter, food and healthcare as long as they did their part and meet their work quotas and participate in dr mengelas medical experiments

>>510825350 (OP)
A 15 min cities need a small high trust community, because the alternative is thugs and thieves in and out from your house in 15 min

>>510829432
Shh, soon the wignats will be using this argument to try and sell it

>>510827296
Region?

>>510825607
which 80% are we talking about here though?

>>510825350 (OP)
In theory nothing. In practice they won’t let you keep foreigners and poor people out like you can by moving to an expensive, transit-inaccessible suburb, so it’s a knock to quality of life being advanced by people who commute on private jets with the frequency that most people drive.
>>510825607
I think Thiel’s circle is like this. Legacy elites want to turn the entire world into a favela.
>>510825629
Breaking down scale like this in theory distributed wealth (scaled enterprise becomes impossible due to zoning constraints) and allows the average person to have a higher quality of life. Logistics prices rise (so your cost of goods and services are higher) but public amenities (parks, restaurants, libraries, medical centers) become more accessible and housing costs theoretically go down as there are more areas available that offer a high quality of life outside of the downtown core. It would require higher taxation and lower levels of disposable income, though, and that’s why it isn’t feasible; they want European social policies in countries that are only around 60% European, with poverty being concentrated in the 40% who aren’t.

They tested to see how much they could get away with in Manchester - few years ago. Signs and barricades appeared over night - everyone immediately destroyed everything burning it all in piles by the roadside.
Then they lied like fuck with several sets of contradictory lies. They hadn’t done nuffin it was all lies. They had done something but it was something else and everyone is stupid and liars and yes they had done it but it’s good for you and you’ll love it.

>>510825350 (OP)
I like the concept, probably works well in European nations and other white countries like Canada but in America the nigger is going to prevent that from working.

>>510829628
The middle class whites. Is this a joke question? You're the modern day kulaks and the biggest threat to the regime. Anyone tho wonders who they plan to get rid of is a retard by definition

>>510828640
No, I don't think I shall.

>>510825607
>>510825678
Do you guys remember white fortressing? I never read the article, this just reminded me of it.
>>510825712
>>510825826
2020 lockdowns were the model for this. It played out exactly like conspiracy theorists said it would; two sets of rules for two different classes of people.
>>510826397
Peter Thiel has gay sex with other men. These people aren’t the unstoppable forces of nature people try to pass them off as.

>>510829385
I really just want to make sure my arguments against 15 minute cities are precise. It's hard to do when you're not sure if they're talking about a 15 minute walk or bike-ride, and if they mean radius or diameter, because not using more concrete terms is clearly a deliberate way of hiding how shit the idea is.

Although I'm more bothered by snow than heat.

>>510825350 (OP)
They want small, extremely dense population areas. It is easier to control people that way, and it makes capitalism more lucrative for the (((business owners))). But we weren't meant for cities. We were made for tribes of only a few hundred max. Give me a few acres in the middle of nowhere over a 15 minute city.

>>510829742
Middle class Whites are 3% of the global population numbnuts

>>510829938
Whites tried the rural approach, but it means loss of power and influence.

>>510825350 (OP)
>we're going to mix in single family housing with huge apartment complexes, gas stations, industrial shops, bars, schools

yeah why would people hate this
you retards latch onto any stupid idea because you have to inflate your egos by shitting on everything normal

>>510826982
This.

>>510825350 (OP)
A manageable goy farm of jewish design

>>510829909
>Peter Thiel has gay sex with other men.
As opposed to heterosexual sex with other men?

>>510830020
Yes. And what was it a century ago? If you think they plan on getting rid of the hordes of third world barbarians, at the same time they import them en masse, then you're stupid. Maybe they'll be trimmed down later but they're definitely not top priority.

>>510826495
>>510828572
Usually these models still keep arterial roads but put them in back alleys. Japan has a lot of roads that aren’t accessible by conventional motor vehicles and they just adapt the vehicles (fire, delivery, ambulance, etc.) to adapt to the smaller roads. Hospitals are a good example though because there is no real benefit to distributing any kind of complex or emergency care; there are so many contingencies in modern medicine that you need all the departments to be located relatively close together. Contrast with e.g. a call center where distributing the offices creates new opportunities for small businesses to offer services to (now remote) office workers.

>>510830139
Lot of urban planning is very European actually. Greeks invented the concept. It's not a bad concept either, very efficient. But sure, go live in remote Alaska and never have any influence, I'm sure that will work.

>>510826982
>How to build back better with 15-minute cities

>>510825350 (OP)
What's wrong is that people against it assumes every single person wants and has a car to do everything with, so designs not car centric doesn't matter.

This is becoming more and more untrue as everything becomes increasingly less affordable.
You think wage zoomies are going out and buying ford's overpriced truck slop when they can barely afford their fucking rent?

>>510826207
Anon, before the 1950s American cities used to be 15 minute cities too. Pretty much all cities around the world were because you had to get around either on foot or public transport. Your job and frequent destinations (grocery stores, stores for common goods, cafes, bars, etc) had to be within ~30min walking/public transport distance.
The rise of the automobile post WW2, the Federal Highway Act, and the Federal Housing Administrations backed loans destroyed traditional urban planning in favor of car dependent suburban sprawl hostile to all other forms of transportation now ubiquitous in the US.
The push for 15 minute cities is urban planners regaining their senses and RETVRNing to traditional urban planning.

>>510830180
So they want rid of 80% of the global populace but you think only 3% are targeted? You haven't thought this through have you.

>>510825350 (OP)
You can look to China to find out why

They did a promo about their 15 minute cities, where you need government permission to leave them.
>It’s a large jail cell.

Here is the real solution to what leftists actually want, rather than what the government wants to shove them into:
>the free market

If a service can not be provided for profit within 15 minutes of your home, then you are asking for government subsidized businesses. This will mostly impact two areas:
>niggertown, where businesses are run off through rampant crime and stealing
>suburbs, where many businesses can not afford to operate due to high property value.

So you will subsidize niggers and rich people, because everyone else either lives rurally or is already in a location accommodated as the leftists desire.

>>510830170
Sodomy would be a more appropriate descriptor, I guess; nothing these freaks do resembles sex. I’m just trying to emphasize that in any normal society he would have been shunned by his investors and spent the rest of his life in a gay (as opposed to a heterosexual) bathhouse somewhere.

>>510825350 (OP)
Because walkable cities mean you're within walking distance of browns and Jews and no one wants that because it's a violation of my religious beliefs

>>510830333
This
Just remove melanoids and all is well

>>510825826
Peasants had better lives than us in every conceivable way. They even got more vacation time

>>510830395
A lot of this isn’t due to market forces but zoning regulations restricting property usage.
>Ok, so remove the zoning regulations.
This sounds like a solution until you visit Latin America; unzoned developments are not pleasant places to live.

>>510830415
>Sodomy would be a more appropriate descriptor
Buggery and mutual masturbation. Fags can't have sex.
> in a gay (as opposed to a heterosexual) bathhouse somewhere.
AKA a monastery. He is a professing catholic.

>>510830488
The beauty of traditional urban planning is that it works for all cities, including cosmopolitan ones. No need for ethnic cleansing. And thank god for that, I'd kill myself if I had to subsist on a diet of northern european "food"

>>510830385
>they won't do it in steps
>they haven't already reduced the population of certain target groups
>they won't use one group to reduce another before they reduce that one in turn
Fuck you're stupid, maybe look at literally any leftist revolution over the last 200 years. Fucking idiot

>>510825350 (OP)
What's wrong with owning a fucking car and a house?

>>510830613
Far be it for me to judge but how can you be Catholic and go on sodomizing other men? He’d be at the bath house, the Catholicism is window dressing for his ideology. Half the guys he’s surrounded himself with are also butt pirates; there’s a reason for this.

>>510830898
>No need for ethnic cleansing.
You lost me there
>I'd kill myself if I had to subsist on a diet of northern european "food"
Thankfully frenchies and meds are White
I'll also allow a few east asians on loicense

>>510825350 (OP)
Cities are for niggers and faggots

>>510830977
You're not too bright are ya?
If the depopulation theory is true then the "elite" are either powerless or laughably incompetent
Global population has surged nigger
>>510831034
> how can you be Catholic and go on sodomizing other men?
When has that ever stopped them before? Kek.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liber_Gomorrhianus

>>510825350 (OP)
If you can get anywhere in 15 minutes then it would make it so every nigger could get to you in 15 minutes or less

>>510831462
Put nogs in 15 minute wakandas in Africa

>>510831462
>every nigger could get to you in 15 minutes or less
That's likely the entire thought process behind it. I'm not even going to google it, but my gut tells me the vast majority of niggers don't bother traveling more than 15 minutes from home to steal.

>>510831420
>the slave class has surged and the white middle class has massively declined
>this means their plan has failed
Dumb cunt. I take solace knowing that you'll at least die childless.

>>510831629
>That's likely the entire thought process behind it.
Come on now.
>>510831656
>>the slave class has surged
>>this means their plan has failed
Yes. If their plan is 80% reduction, this represents a massive failure and a progression to the antithesis of their desired end
Fuck me, you're one dumb nigger ape

>>510825350 (OP)
>what's wrong with it
The part where it says you're not allowed to leave or travel anywhere you want.

>>510831821
>a multi stage plan hasn't already been completed
>therefore its not going to be ever
Lol, lmao.

>>510825350 (OP)
Nothing, it works great.
The problem, as always, lies with the people.

>>510825607
The redpill on this is that when the planet's been depopulated by 76%, a city would only have to be 15-minutes of driving in size.

>>510830997
Literally nothing, you'll still be able to own a car and a house if you want. The suburbs will still exist. Rural areas will still exist.
What changes is that while you can still own a house and car, I won't forced into buying a car to survive, and there'll be more housing options other than "rent tiny studio apartment for 15 years" and "pay mortgage on a massive suburban single family house because no one builds starter homes anymore."

>>510832272
>extended warranty! how can I lose?

>>510825350 (OP)
I live in a 15 minute city
my kids school is 15 minutes away
little ceasars, oxxo and walmart is 5 minutes away
drugstores lik dr simi and famarcias guadalajara is 5 minutes away
there are many parks

>>510832272
The subtext of le heckin 15 minute walkable city is that you and your shitskin nu-murrican neighbors all live in pods. The lifestyle people enjoyed 30 years ago of owning a home in the suburbs, a car, an affordable apartment or home or condo what have you in a white city is gone. They will shitskin flood the country, drive housing to insane prices then sell you the solution. You give up everything and live in a pod! We're making your life easier and helping you anon! This was always a nation of immigrants! Now go settle in next to your neighbors Ranjesh Shartiswami and Ahmoud Al-Gout Fukhar

>>510825350 (OP)
Because it's being created for the same reason they shut down 24 hour stores, want to track your cars and punishing you for driving around in them too much: CONTROL.
>THEY
>DON'T
>CARE
>ENOUGH
>ABOUT
>YOUR
>LIFE
>TO
>MAKE
>IT
>BETTER
>UNLESS
>YOU
>FORCE
>THEM
>TO
This is about CONTROL.
They want to know WHERE you are, WHEN you are there, WHO you are seeing. WHAT you are talking about and consuming and how much.

>>510825607
>but what they really want is to depopulate the planet by at least 80%
In theory most people here would be for that, of course the real argument is who gets axed, white humans or hooknoses and their beast-man golems? It sucks because wealthy powerful white guys like Elon truly seem to believe that you can replace whites with shitskins and somehow it will all work out. I was talking to a vaxxed white the other day who brought up Elon's awkward hand gesture as a sieg heil and he was legit worried about him being a Nazi. It's like, what the fuck do you think a Nazi is retard? Just general confusion in the world. But I'd love to believe that there is a Breakaway Group somehow prepping shitskins for eternal doom.

>>510831629
>my gut tells me the vast majority of niggers don't bother traveling more than 15 minutes from home to steal.
Your gut is correct. I lived with niggers for years, in nigger neighborhoods. They had encyclopedic knowledge of the drama on their block but everything beyond the block was an alien world. The idea that I had moved from one state to another was totally incomprehensible to them.

>>510832508
My Indian neighbors across the street are doctors. Their son helped me fix up my car yesterday, and today I went over to help them with computer issues. My Palestinian neighbor is a retired engineer, and he brought me delicious home cooked food when I was on bedrest for two week after surgery.
There's nothing you can say that'll make me hate them.

>>510829343
This.
If you think it will be anything else you're delusional.
Subwhites and Niggers will serve as the perfect reason it becomes this way, you just gotta hope you're on the right side of the wall.
I live in a rural area. You wouldn't believe the sorts of things they're doing to try and make us all leave.
They don't want you independent. You're a threat to them if you are.

>>510825350 (OP)
Communism

>>510832930
I want to live rural aswell, can i just park a trailer on some land and call it a house?

>>510832357
I live in a 0-5 minute village. My grocery store is a 5-minute walk using the farmer path. Eggs, fruits and vegatables are found about 1 minute away in my garden. I have a little forrest in my backyard and fields all around me for rest and nature. The miller brings me flour to bake my bread with and the neighboor is a butcher.

Why haven't you taken the countryside pill yet?

>>510832912
So believable. Get the fuck off my Turkestani cave painting forum ranjesh/moshe.

>>510825350 (OP)
Niggers.

>>510832118
>let's increase the population by 400% guise in our masterplan to reduce it by 80%
The dumbest blackest nigger ape I've seen in a while

>>510830333
>>510830898
>>510832272
>>510832912
Faggot ass liberal… I know your kind you move to the south into a 85% white county with a midsize city then start complaining about lack of ethnic food and lack of diversity that your faggot ass moved away from. You are a parasite and most likely are at least 25% Jewish.

People can mean very different things when the say '15 minute city'

>basic necessities should be within 15 minutes by foot
Sure whatever. Strive to build a grocery store, school and a clinic at regular walkable intervals. you won't necessarily succeed but you could probably improve the worst areas. Pretty sure most cities already at least make a passing attempt at this.

>we're going to [fine/tax/ticket] cars for leaving and entering their designated 15 minute circle because [reasons, usually environmental]
The lampposts will be decorated with the corpses of any politician who so much as considers the idea. Do not restrict freedom of movement for citizens within the country which they reside.

Every town or settlement is a 15 minute city, the capable (read WHITES) understand this. White flight guts cities and leaves brown deserts, food deserts especially, proper vendors want no interaction with the dark. Cities are hard work (like civilization, funny that), city dwellers aren't up to it any more.

>>510832937
>>510833612
who hurt you

>>510825350 (OP)
won't work due to diversity you can only have nice things in a mono-ethnic society

>>510825784
It's not about burgers

OP is hungarian = mongoloid nomad faggot invasive to europe

So he discovers it after settling from his nomadic lifestyle

>>510825826
no the peasant had more freedom

Liberals discovered small towns. LOL

>>510825350 (OP)
You're probably a vile deceitful cunt but these things quickly go from
>oh it's just a nice optional thing
to
>if you leave your prison zone you will be shot on sight
Like how retards that were worried about getting in trouble for killing themselves got the ball rolling on "well you're over 65 you really should allow the government to kill you to stop weather"

>>510832912
So true comrade. I was talking to my Philipino neighbor the other day and he taught me Mah Jong the martial art of disarming a (racist) opponent without bloodshed. Then my Congolese neighbor took us to his garage and showed us a tiny nuclear reactor he is developing that will power cities in disenfranchised communities. If only white people could understand

>>510825350 (OP)
>What's wrong with the 15 minute city concept?
jews,niggers

>>510825350 (OP)
The obvious problem is that how is property ownership going to work in it. Let's say I own an apartment in one district but suddenly I find a job that's outside of the 15 minutes zone. Will aliens teleport the job site closer to my place?

You see this is wrong approach. I will not own an apartment, I will be housed. I will not find another job the job will be found to me. That's 15 minute city. Not just having utilities near you, almost every town and city in Europe is a 15 minutes city effectively speaking. Sometimes there's no hospital or one particular store jas to be driven to, but you know very well that if I dump you into a town of 10k people you'll find the daily necessities in it no problems, so why would anyone even talk about this shit? Well because as said before, it is not about getting your utilities in places close enough to you, but bringing you into the place where the utilities are present so the management of human mass becomes easier.

>>510825350 (OP)
it's not great but it's be much more palatable if they were homogenous 15 minute cities. the ones they have planned have us sandwiched between pakis and niggers

>>510825350 (OP)
The way they go about enforcing this is by heavily tolling anyone with a vehicle who wants to enter the area. Then they claim they've built "15-minute" cities in which people get everything they want in a 15-minute walk, which is only the case because people are literally forced to pay to go to another zone.

If you're a business owner, do you really want people from adjacent areas to have to pay a fee to come to your restaurant, movie theater, or whatever?

>>510834614
even the most leftoid liberal doesn't want to live amongst the ghetto street niggers. they'll live in gentrified ex nigger neighbourhoods but they won't even visit the ghettos, let alone live there

>>510825350 (OP)
Nothing. Polchuds hate it because they are anti-fun anti-human contrarians.

>>510825712
This guy gets it

>>510825350 (OP)
It's the same as the question "What's wrong with Jews?"

>>510834810
They’re already doing this in London for climate change and NYC in manhattan for “congestion” and charging you for bringing your vehicle inside the “zone”.

>>510829695
They're doing it right now in Lyon. The mayor is of course a green commie, and his credo is to make the life of his fellow citizens, especially the car drivers, as miserable as possible. He doesn't care about all the small shops dying because of his stupid policies, he doesn't care about the fact that even the busses are struggling to be on time because a lot of bus ways have been transformed into bicycle ways, he doesn't care about the slower response time for police and firefighters, he only cares about turning the city into a nightmare. Every sane person hates the greens. I'm so tired of those fucking FAGGOTS holy shit.

>>510835219
Good. You don't need a car to get around in those cities. Air pollution sucks ass, and my kid has a fucking right to clean air and healthy lungs. It's a good thing to take care of our environment and have cities with clean air and clean water.

>>510836419
What a fucking bullshit map. Pollution depends heavily on the weather, it's not constant throughout the year. It's just as bad as those climate change maps. And ironically, most of our pollution comes from Germany, since they have a lot of coal plants, while we have a lot of "clean" nuclear reactors. Automobiles only represent 20% of the air pollution.

>>510836419
your kid is probably just a dumb vaxbrain npc, hopefully he enjoys being warehoused in a 15 minute walkable city until he dies. im gonna keep doing .y homestead.

>>510833647
This is how you destroy the genepool you bonobo
After that process, you're left with genetic garbage only. Natural slaves.

>>510836803
>What a fucking bullshit map. Pollution depends heavily on the weather, it's not constant throughout the year.
If we get the mathematical average of each year's air pollution levels, plot it on a graph, and that line shows a downward trend over 17 years, it's safe to say air pollution has decreased.
You can even run the numbers yourself to double check https://data-airparif-asso.opendata.arcgis.com/

>>510825350 (OP)
No one wants to walk around brown people and junkies.
So much for that idea. Any other ways to improve the city that don't force decent people to be with the worst people every day?

They're fine if you don't have an underclass of niggers/3rdies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5mG4vX9Ll0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEgDMre3u6g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR5pExXAl60

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvG0e5Bya_g

>>510825350 (OP)
perfect for tyranny

>>510825350 (OP)
Niggers

>>510825350 (OP)
>nothing is within the 5 minute walk
rofl

>>510830567
This, peasants barely worked half a year. Now we are lucky to get 2 weeks of vacation

>>510832912
https://files.catbox.moe/0iwusj.webm

>>510841218
Please. We have air conditioning. That alone makes our lives better than any period in history.

>>510825350 (OP)
>within a 15 minute walk
You would be living like a sardine

>>510825350 (OP)
The problem is that the expectation for fifteen-minute cities is for everyone to be living in multi-family dwellings. Americans want to own their own spacious houses with yards to let their dogs out to poop and bedrooms to convert into home offices. The densest housing that has private yards are townhouses and those aren't dense enough to justify public transit.

>>510843108
I have 3 pharmacies, 3 convience stores, 1 bar, 3 gas stations, the fire dept is a block away. my house could accomodate a football team. You should be as much critical about the conditions in which you live or could live as much as you are rightfully critic of the propaganda you're being fed. That 15 mins plan has probably hidden bad intentions but having basic goods and services at walking distance is nothing to complain about, you faggots are all just nihilistic knee jerk contrarians

>>510825712
Nobody is making you move to or stay in a 15 minute city. These cities are basically gated communities.

>>510844191
At first I thought you were claiming ownership of all of those businesses.
The problem with this 15 minute shit is the places you listed all price gouge. You have to travel to a big box store just to get realistic prices

>>510844285
Hey rabbi

>>510825350 (OP)
Marxist-globalist parasite wet dream of domestic cattle

>>510825350 (OP)
>What's wrong with the 15 minute city concept?
There's nothing wrong with it on its face and it would be favorable for fitting more shops and apartments in a smaller amount of space if vertical building and mixed usage becomes a foundational design doctrine. The only problem with this scenario is that in america and the west, niggers would do their usual antics in a much closer proximity to you and state wants to use this model as a way to control people instead of making things more convenient.

>>510836419
You can have the best of both worlds and mandate the usage of LPG vehicles for fleet/trucking in high density areas to reduce pollution. Extending it to privately owned cars probably wouldn't work because that'd force market demand and private capital to invest a large amount of R&D into new $50k cars. They can't just immediately start building shit like that out of the blue unless they find a way to quickly retrofit conventional gas powered cars with LPG combustion tech. Perhaps, relocating key logistical routes and docking stations underground would make the most sense to ease traffic and reduce air pollution.

>>510845016
he probably is right in all fairness, the 15 minute citys are just a place to warehouse the useless eaters till they die. purebloods will be free

>>510826397
The more centralized humanity gets, the harder it will fail when everything collapses. And everything will collapse. It always does.

>>510825350 (OP)
I do enjoy living in a walkable city

This "15 minute city" meme is just mental masturbation r*dd*t-goy bait.
I mean, what are they gonna do? Level Chicago to build their gay little commune?
You want your nu-company-town, go build one and show us how it works.

>>510844191
>Mexico
We're talking about for first-world countries

>>510825712
Correct answer.
>>510844285
Taxed until you have to move in.

>>510826059
>We need to sit in a traffic jam for 2 x 30 minutes every day to own the libs.
No we need to sit in a high tech subway train filled with screaming violent niggers to own the chuds

>>510830333
>The push for 15 minute cities is urban planners regaining their senses and RETVRNing to traditional urban planning.
Checked Masonanon HOWEVER do you not see that niggers throw a MONKEY wrench into this? NatSocs have no problem with planned cities, it's when those cities are filled with beast-men that we have a problem.

>>510825350 (OP)
It’s too much walking for fat redneck hillbillies that subsist on coke and Cheeto puffs

>>510825350 (OP)
These dumbasses have never heard of a small town have they?

>>510830898
>I'd kill myself if I had to subsist on a diet of northern european "food"
Fagboy you can eat whatever food you want. Think you're going to walk into your kitchen and we'll be in there shaking our head?

>>510836419
>Air pollution sucks ass
If you gave a fuck about pollution then you would be screaming for China and India to be completely depopulated and its inhabitants turned into ground chuck. But I'm guessing you deeply resent white people while stuffing your fat face with Jeetslop and Chinkslop
Have fun lecturing your kid on being racist when he complains about shitskins bullying him in school

>>510825350 (OP)
The city part. How about we simply don't have cities? By 100k inhabitants any town has turned into a complete abomination. Should probably draw the line at 50k or so; no higher than 70 or 80 at least. In this way it won't take too long to cross half the town either.

>>510825350 (OP)
If you can get everything you want on a day to day basis without paying for petrol, what happens to the Saudi monarchy?

>>510825712
>and you get penalized for leaving your containment zone
This is fucking retarded. I live in a fifteen minute city NOW. I've never had anyone try to stop me from traveling more than fifteen minutes from home, and since it's a walkable city it's basically IMPOSSIBLE for the government to stop people from leaving their "assigned zone" without deploying riot cops. Meanwhile, YOUR government can stop you from leaving your containment zone just by revoking your driver's license. It's a fuck of a lot easier for the cops to stop you from driving than for them to stop you from walking.

>>510825966
>If a city is not a 15 minute city, there's a very good reason for it
Most of the time in burgerland it's zoning. "This area is for single family homes ONLY, all stores must be at least 10 kilometers away". Zoning isn't bad as a concept, but burgers like to have gigantic exclusive zones so everyone's stuck in their assigned pods.

>>510826495
That's what an ambulance is for. It takes me fifteen minutes to bike to the hospital, but *there is a fucking road right outside my house* and it will take five minutes for an ambulance to get me to the hospital.

>>510827140
>another excuse for increasing surveillance.
Anon, cars have license plates. The government can and will use car dependency to lock you down if they want.

>>510825350 (OP)
No, you see resentment to leftists wanting to force everyone to be part of their 15 minute city. Same with transit, walkable cities, cycling, and all the other urban shit leftists come up with.
No one cares if leftists make leftist cities into leftist utopias. But leftists don't do that because leftists aren't capable of doing that. Instead they want to eliminate all other forms of living so only their one chosen lifestyle is allowed. That's where the pushback comes from. No one cares if leftists want to do leftists shit in leftist areas. It's entirely about the leftist obsession with forcing everyone to conform to their worldview.

>>510825350 (OP)
>1 post by this ID
Sentiment analysis? The fact is you lost. No amount of redoing the same ideas will help you win. It’s like with your precious communism - we know it’s just a way to kill goyim now. No amount of repackaging it will make us forget.

You lost.

>>510825350 (OP)
Niggers.

>>510825350 (OP)
nothing is really wrong with this concept
truly
its just that the same people that push for this are always the same people that push for this actively are faggots pushing all sorts of other agenda

If they manage to force people to live in the big pod, the next thing they'll want is to ban private ownership of transportation to "protect the planet". After all, you've already got everything you need in your pod! What, the only doctor is an imported jeet who's telling you to kill yourself to save on government heathcare expenses? Don't be selfish. Transit permit denied.

>>510825350 (OP)
there is nothing wrong with it and they are full of white people so thats probably why mutts hate the idea

>>510825350 (OP)
>>15-minute city
That's hilarious, when in my city bus routes are cancelled every other hour due to funding shortages.

Even on a good day on some routes busses run only one every hour and a half...

If you hear "multimodal transit" it's just a leftist ploy to do away with cars altogether.

They don't want busses.

>>510825350 (OP)
>What's wrong with the 15 minute city concept?
You will be forced to live there,
AND I DONT WANT TO LIVE IN A FUCKING CITY.

I have PPMS.. walking and bicycling does not work for me.. Everyone just assumes that everyone works like they do. Narrow minded liberal bitches