Does Trump REALLY want to go into discovery with this? I mean, this is a no-win scenario for him here. When he withdraws the suit, he's going to look weak as FUCK because there is categorically no way he's going to risk a discovery phase going into the fucking veracity of the letter he wrote. This is just a complete and utter disaster for him. Does he really think he's going to bully Rupert fucking Murdoch into captulating?
I have no love for Murdoch but he's what you'd call a "real billionaire" -- one of those guys who has genuinely more money than he knows what to do with. Trump has always been a small fry. He inherited a bunch of buildings his dad built and when they happened to appreciate, he lucked into a decent sum. With that money, he proceeded to fail at everything he ever did. Murdoch, compared to Trump, got money the "hard" way. Trump has no fucking clue what he's doing right now. He's lashing out like the spoiled child to which he's regressing.
If the letter is proven to be real, we will use it against Trump for all it's worth.
If the letter is proven to be fake, we will say Murdouch deliberately published a fake letter to discredit Epstein inquires overall.
If this just drags out with no resolution for months on end, we will call it a deliberate distraction tactic and use that against Trump.
There is no scenario where we don't use this as ammo in the Trump/Epstein scandal.
>>510827234 (OP)They won't be able to find shit via discovery here, Trump is suing them as an individual not as the government. Trump himself does not have any Epstein documents.
Why are Epstein threads being slid?
>>510827541It's about time. Trump is arrogant and his arrogance bred complacency. He thought his control was stronger than it is and finally overplayed his hand. There have been a lot of people who fucking HATE him who have just been waiting for an opportunity of genuine weakness to pounce. This is it. It's time to bury this stupid orange fuck.
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>>510827234 (OP)Now is not the time for division and distraction! We must stand united for our greatest ally in their time of need.
>>510827635>They won't be able to find shit via discovery hereDiscovery here is going to require Trump to open up his own records to the defense. That means Mar-a-Lago guest logs, business communications, financial statements -- all of this directly exposed, out in the open.
>>510827234 (OP)Its a strawman to discredit the idea that israel is blackmailing the elite. The letter doesnt exist but Trumps people made it up to be able to publicly discredit it.
Its all jewish.
>>510828906None of this has anything to do with jews, smoothbrain.
It's good. Nobody, not even Trump can come out and publicly say how international jewry controls all the politicians, the banks, the media, the corporations, and academia. However beholden he is to the preservation of Israel and making sure Ivanka's kids don't get rounded up, he knows this is very bad for America and they are bleeding us dry. One one hand they can't disclose it, but on the other if the government does not begin to disclose it they lose all credibility. They tell the minorities it's 'white people' doing this, and we know better who is doing it
>>510827541>Trump/Epstein scandalThere’s no scandal but your retarded crybaby progressive’s want to believe it.
>>510827695You’re a delusional lefty fag. You guy’s have been after omb forever and it’s been proven how stupid you all are. Go fly your troon flag and cry more faggot.
>>510829715I have absolutely no clue what you're talking about or why you think it's a logical response to this thread. What you wrote is like a semantic black box; an abyss from which no man of sane mind and sound moral character can do anything but recoil.
>>510828971JE is/was Jewish you dumb cunt.
>>510830335If an apple falls on your head, do you immediately start a crusade against all fruit?
>>510827234 (OP)This is just attention suck and few people will pay attention to big economic crash soon. And then he will blame fed and become savior again for Americans.
>>510830696How many times has Trump been investigated by you dumb niggers? You fucking bunkerchan niggers need to go back.
>>510827234 (OP)>Does Trump REALLY want to go into discovery with this?Wow, you better call or send him an email and let him know. Obviously, he and his multi-million-dollar team of attorneys never thought of that.
Why are /ptg/niggers trying to slide Epstein threads?
>>510830902Yup. These crybaby “progressives” are all delusional troons.
>>510830968>slide Epstein threadsCause it was done to death 8 years ago.
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>>510830862Trump raped Obama turning him gay.
>>510830621Reality weaves the strongest narrative... it's just a lazy medium and most people have no interest in it until they're forced to. Each of these crises are a death by a thousand cuts. I've been trying to tell Trumpies they're being too arrogant -- they assume they've won some kind of permanent victory when in reality no government has ever been successfully managed by vibes. At a certain point, you have to start actually governing with substance rather than image. The substance of Trump's policies has never been good -- they're too simple-minded and single-sided. When you combine the incoming policy failures with the maddening WE HAVE WON FOREVER!!!! idiocy of Trump and his goonies... yeah, the whiplash is going to be pretty intense.
Anyone alive can be president in 2028 as long as they're running against a MAGA.
>>510827541If it's proven to be not from Donald Trump but actually Donald Barr it will lend credibility to the argument that whatever the government has on Epstein will be obfuscated to implicate the innocent and there is no evidence implicating any actual guilty party.
>>510831207>If it's proven to be not from Donald Trump but actually Donald BarrPlease don't pollute my thread with this pathetic cope.
>>510831207Epstein was closer with Trump than Barr, who was in his 80s at the time.
>>510831311It makes way more sense that it's from Donald Barr than Trump considering how much closer Epstein actually was to Barr than Trump.
>>510831549>release a list of his clientsThe same clients that we all knew about and was discussed here 8 years ago? Get real newfag.
>>510827234 (OP)>Does Trump REALLY want to go into discovery with this?Yes. If he is engaging in this he is aware of the risks if there are any. Are you retarded?
>>510831652Can you show me a picture of Epstein hanging out with Donald Barr?
>>510831549Also in case nobody has told (you), you’re here forever.
>>510827234 (OP)> Orange man sues a jew over exposing another jewIt's official, folks, ZionDon is now a bigger kike than actual kikes.
>>510831904>If he is engaging in this he is aware of the risksHe's a seventy-nine year old real estate guy. He's not a lawyer. He's never had to do anything but pay other people to make his problems go away his entire life. He is irrationally attached to tariffs, needed six months to be brought up to speed on the fact that, yes, actually it's been Putin the entire time in Ukraine, etc etc etc. Trump has never had any fucking clue what he's doing. He's interested in three things: money, pussy, and power. The law is not within his very narrow demonstrated interests, so it's always struck me REAL fuckin strange when people pretend Trump is some kind of analytical genius. He just kinda "does" things as he wants to do them.
>>510831652Why do you niggers just make up stories, and state them as fact? We don't even know if Barr really hired him, and, if so, that's the only known connection. Meanwhile, Trump and Epstein were close friends for over 15 years, with Trump being a frequent visitor to his Palm Beach mansion.
>>510832098Because you would think that if Epstein and Barr were such good friends you might have at least seen them pictured together once or twice, right? I mean, he's all over the place with Trump, for instance...
>>510827234 (OP)Cuz you clueless
You think you the turd but you ain't even a fart
>>510832081>He's a seventy-nine year old real estate guy. He's not a lawyer.correct. He pays others to do that for him and explain the risks to him retard just like any other rich people. Why are we attracting so many retards to this board?
>>510832143>Why do you niggers just make up stories, and state them as fact?One could ask you that question.
>>510827234 (OP)>he's going to look weakafter all this time you all still have no idea who you are fucking with lmao
>>510827234 (OP)meh, i demand they conduct a naked wrestling match to settle this shit
>>510832180Everybody wants their picture with Trump though. Barr was ugly.
>>510827641Because they're all spamming/flooding low quality threads like retarded niggers
>>510832217Tell me what's wrong in my post, and I'll provide a source to back it up. Meanwhile, Barr might have hired him in the '70s. That's it.
>>510832277I find this an incredibly spurious argument to the point where I'm struggling to find a way to respond constructively.
>>510832199Ok. Why isn't Trump listening to the experts on tariffs? Why didn't he listen to the experts on Ukraine? My point here is that Trump shows a pattern of behavior where he consistently ignores the input of experts, even those he hires.
>>510832451What exactly are you expecting that they will find from this?
>>510832502Who are "they?" What is "this?"
>>510832353You are free to come up with another reason why the CIA guy who put his own son in the DOJ to get Epstein off his charges isn't in any pictures with Jeff Epstein and why the type of guy an operation like Epstein's targets is.
>>510832589If you don't even know that why did you make this thread retard?
>>510832451He is listening to his experts retard
>>510832612>who put his own son in the DOJ to get Epstein off his chargesWho appointed Bill Barr again?
>>510832633But... he didn't. He is still holding onto tariffs despite 97% of economists disagreeing. He took six months to realize that the experts were right and Putin was not friend but adversary. Trump's cabinet is full of yes-men, not experts. If you think there exists any lawyer (outside of a parking garage maybe) who thinks going into a hellish, brutalizing discovery phase ON HIS BIGGEST ISSUE and on the issue he's most invested in hiding details... kindly, you have no fucking clue what you're talking about and should consider a slice of humble pie kek
>>510832620Sorry, fren. I can't read your mind. I don't know what you're talking about unless you say it in a way someone else can understand.
>>510832861When it was actually relevant, not in the early '90s.
>>510832950What exactly do you expect that the courts will find in this case retard?
>>510833042I don't expect that it goes to court, if you're asking my opinion. I think ask the evidence points to Trump going for a misguided optics win here under the very misguided assumption that Rupert Murdoch is going to be intimidated by some up-jumped real estate heir. I think Trump overplayed his hand and he'll extract some token "victory" and back off long before discovery.
>>510833177So if it's not even going to court how does that then become "Drumph is finished now!"?
>>510832986That is when it was relevant. He would have been in jail this whole time.
>>510833239>>>510833177 (You) #>So if it's not even going to court how does that then become "Drumph is finished now!"?I'm not sure you're following my logic. You might be reading more into things with less accuracy than you think you are. This epstein story in general has not just legs but wings. It is the general milieu in which I believe Trump will finally get fucked, not in this specific case.
>>510832899He did. The "experts" you are citing are CNN news anchors or economists that have an ideological divide and are not in his cabinet.
>Trump's cabinet is full of yes-men, not experts>anyone that agrees with him is a yes man only people that disagree with him are correct>only my yes men are rightlike a literal toddler
>>510827234 (OP)He is just trying to buy time with a frivolous lawsuit
>>510833346So if this case apparently has no bearing on anything, why the fuck did you even make this thread?
>>510833353>The "experts" you are citing are CNN news anchors or economists that have an ideological divide and are not in his cabinet.No, let's be clear: when I'm talking about "experts," I'm not talking about people you watch on television but the small class of people who are credentialed, interested, and experienced in their fields. I'm talking about the intelligence community viz. Ukraine and the general consensus among PhD economists (north of 97%) with respect to tariffs being shit.
>>510827234 (OP)trials never
made sense
to me.
like im either guilty and u have proof
or im not guilty and you dont have proof
everything else is staged drama for women
>>510833317He was in for 3 years in the early '90s, before we even know of him operating. This is an insane cope, based on an unconfirmed story about Donald Barr hiring him in the '70s.
Again, Trump was close friends with Epstein, and a frequent visitor to his home. He's the most likely candidate, and I'm sure they would have compared the signature before writing the story.
>>510833410You are a very odious little midwit kek. The word "milieu" here represents the overall space of the Epstein scandal, of which this lawsuit is a component. It all plays a part. Nothing is happening in a vacuum. It's all moving together as components of a broader picture that's starting to come into focus. But hey, keep missing the forest for the trees, innit?
>>510833670OK so this thread is nothing but a vehicle for you to moan about Drumph rather than anything of substance. I see.
>>510833737No, my smolbrained little friend... no, you don't see
>>510833537>credentialed, interested, and experienced in their fieldsYup and trump has these people on his cabinet.
>>510827234 (OP)jewish cum has blinded his sight
>>510833776Then start talking about something non moronic.
>>510833712Barr hiring him is a theory based on when he was the headmaster, that's it. It's not like we have forms from when Epstein was hired, and we're arguing that dome other headmaster with the same name signed it.
Epstein was closer with Trump than Barr. That's just a fact.
>>510833777You're not gonna interact in good faith, are you? I guess I can't force you to. If you'd like to prove me wrong, feel free to respond to what I actually meant with the entirety of that post instead of responding to a fragment. Otherwise, this is my last response to you.
>>510833989>You're not gonna interact in good faith, are you?Bro your entire argument is "everyone Trump listens to is bad because I say so and everyone he disagrees with is a true expert because I say so" and you accuse me of arguing in bad faith? Fuck off kike
>>510827234 (OP)I hope Murdoch doesn't give a shit in his old age and takes it all the way to expose Trump and everyone else. The way Trump seething about Epstein is very suspicious
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>>510834075Because we know about Trump and Epstein's relationship. We've seen them pictured together many times, we've heard about their friendship of "over 15 years" from Trump's mouth, and we have court documents with the housekeeper confirming he was a frequent visitor to the Palm Beach mansion. And then we have smaller things that further back it up, like Trump also calling the Palm Beach property on a regular basis, which is in the Bradley Edwards book.
Feel kinda bad for Maggies, not gonna lie. You just know a lot of these guys have burned bridges and ruined relationships with friends, families, spouses. There's no getting through to a lot of you guys because your identities are tied up in this shit, as well as a huge sunk cost fallacy. After all, if it turns out that this letter is real and if it's written by Trump, and if what it implies is real... what does that say about you? What does that say about the "movement" you've invested your identity into for a decade?
If Trump WAS actually best pals with Epstein and they were "enigmas" together with "beautiful secrets"... it just can't be. That's like an identity deathblow. It's a betrayal not only by Trump but in some sense, because in the back of your mind you know -- you've always known -- who and what Trump is because despite all the mythos and gravitas you've varnished over him... you've known dudes like him before. We all have. In that sense, you've betrayed yourself, and maybe that's the hardest thing to swallow here: not the lies, the ineptitude, the insults... but the fact that you know better. You just didn't want to.
May God help you all.
>>510834455lol post more screenshots of kikes trying to badger sexual abuse victims into fingering someone else please.
look at that seething passive aggressive post by the leftist kike lmao
>>510834310>if you defend yourself then you're guilty.The level of thought on 4chan is rock fucking bottom.
>>510834632That's his housekeeper, and in that context, he's saying that a name being circled in the black book doesn't necessarily mean they fucked kids.
Their relationship is undeniable, and your copes are pathetic. You were LARPing as the "WSJ Insider" too, right?
>>510834916I don't think anyone denies that a guy like Trump would be targeted by an operation like Barr and Epstein's. It also fits the pattern that Trump would engage with them at some level because that's what confidential FBI informants do, and Trump had been one since he got into the casino business (or rather went into the casino business as one). What you're seeing now is a desperate attempt to use all the stuff they know is no good to try and affect the outcome they had failed to gain any means to affect in the first place and people like you are the only way it can happen. If you were really curious you'd be asking why the DOJ charged Trump with crimes they knew he'd never be convicted of and effectively got him elected in doing so. But you're not curious at all, that's why you're here trying to bolster the mainstream narrative.
>>510833041Sounds like bullshit. It is amerisharts though....
>>510836086>literal fan fictionTrumpniggers are pathetic
*calls Rupert Murdoch*
"Hey, Rupy, this is Alan Dershowitz. For a small fee of 50 million, I can help you beat this lawsuit."
>>510836379I would be interested to hear an alternative theory as to why the Don appears to be Teflon and gets away with so much while being astroturfed by the actual government.
>>510836930Because he's been a jewish tool since he met Roy Cohn.
>>510836930Nobody liked him in the 80's and 90's. They excluded him. That's why he went into politics.
>>510836499Not my post, and describing how you think people feel isn't comparable to inventing stories about Trump.
*Calls DOnald Trump back in 2015*
"Hey Donald, for a small fee and the presidency, I'll help you beat this Epstein wrap".
*Skip to 2025*
"HE'S IN THE FILES! HE'S IN THE FILES!" - Dershowitz.
It's exhausting being right and reporting the truth.
>>510837231>inventing stories about Trump.I thought that's what we were doing itt.
>>510837440I'm 18+30
>>510837337Sometimes being excluded can save your ass from criminal charges.
RIGHT JEFFREY!?!?!?!?
Jesus Christ, this thread is a mess. Unreadable waste of time. Just like the "letter".
>>510834883he is defending himself? I thought people just want Epstein list and files released, no one said anything about Trump and Epstein being in cahoots. did you have a feudian slip, nigger?
>>510837761You are remembering a different last week.
>>510837708Then you'd know even better than me how artificial his fame is. He went on the Howard Stern show for Christ's sake.
>>510837807it's all part of the same shit. did he sue Elon too for exposing him when he left WH? it all has to do with Epstein files. just release the files and then Donnie don't have to worry about being accused of anything if he is innocent.
>>510838043>release the filesThose were already released to Jeffrey's lawyers during the initial raid on his residence a long time ago.
>>510827234 (OP)Either way, it'll be fun to watch.
Get the popcorn.
>>510832081>He's a seventy-nine year old real estate guy. He's not a lawyerHes been inside more courtrooms than most lawyers have
The fuck have you been the last decade?
>>510838267ok, sorry Mr Sheklesteinbergman. I'll move on and never mention Mr Epstein ever again
>>510827541Based
Fuck pedos and pedo protectors
>>510829715This.
Its like a "soft" Epstein client list reveal. Trump is using this debacle to spin his fumbling of the Epstein files disclosure in a positive way to regain the trust of his base. I still don't trust him, or any politician, no matter what.
>>510830218Kys niggerbrain zoomer
>>510840520You won't get any views like that.
His strategy seems to juat be deny deny deny. He's painted himself into a corner with all the lying on this one so all he knows how to do is double down.
In fact Trump is a very interesting example of how easily we can be convinced be a bald faced liar.
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>>510831652Shut up kike. The letter has the word Trump in it
>>510843485It’s a direct quote, faggot kike, and the crux of the whole article. The WSJ would have triple checked this section before sending it to print. Your bullshit won’t work here. You and your people will all be slaughtered soon enough.
>>510844472In fact, I doubt they would have even printed this story if the word Trump didn’t appear in the letter, for just such a reason.
>>510827635If true, then his words following the classified document scandal will be used against him.
>>510844565>trump1>/trəmp/>noun>1...>2.>dated•informal>a helpful or admirable person.Low verbal IQ should emigrate to jew town with the rest of the anti semites
>>510827541You arent going to get votes for epstein since you failed to even ask about it for 5 years and your prescient failed to release it
Your thread is still up you NIGGERS why are you sliding it?