MAGA has grown up and been mugged by reality. It's only those people sitting at the children's table with their idealistic pipe dreams (Massie, Paul, retarded eceleb comedians, Cucker, etc) who don't realize it yet.

At this point the most politically incorrect and based position is to accept Dubya was a great President.

>>510852112 (OP)
>mugged by reality.
How so?

>>510852112 (OP)
If you're going to drink the neocon kool aid, at least know the person responsible for it.

Meanwhile, the day the neocons finally go to the home will be a win for both the republican party and american politics

>>510852295
A few ways.
The idea that the US can just abandon all of its geopolitical interests is a ridiculous one at face value. It shows a really simplistic understanding of the importance of global trade to the US, the USD, alliances, etc. None of these things are unique to the US either. Historically there is no major power that ever decided to do something so self destructive.
In China for example Xi doesn't have people around him saying 'You know, we should stop funding things like the belt and road project, and all that aid to Africa (where we're getting minerals out of their countries) too. We should scrap it all, that's China first!'
It's an obviously idiotic idea and no one would tell Xi that. Same applies to Russia and every other country you can think of.
It's only in the US that this sillyness gets any airtime.

Once you accept that isolationism is a dumb idea then the next step is taking a long hard look at the reality of the world and what is actually in America's interest to do.
Most people don't get past this first step, which is why they become lolberts or outright commies or nazis like /pol/. In a way the commies and nazis are at least honest because they admit they hate the USA so they advocate for policies that would destroy it. Lolberts are stuck in cloud 9 where they think all these policies would somehow help the country.

Everyone else is stuck in a weird limbo where they have to pick political ideas but without a coherent worldview. Some people become realists like Kissinger, others become neocons, there's not many other choices that seem viable.

Tbqh the neocon word is very vague in itself though. It's more idealist than the realists in some ways still.
Technically by /pol/'s definition every single President was a 'neocon'.

>>510852112 (OP)
>If you're not a fake conservative who prioritizes Israel over everything you're woke
Well nigger... Guess I'm woke now

If you aren’t willing to DIE for Israel, you have no business being in the GOP.

>>510853653
What has happened to prove any of what you said?

>>510852112 (OP)
No neoconnery.

>>510852112 (OP)
Dubya was great?
>pro israel
>pro censorship (ask the dixie chicks)
>lied to get us into a decades long war
>Rivaled LBJ for title of "killed most americans"
>ruined America's standing for years
>was an outright embarassment
>D student
>dodged service by entering into air national guard

I suppose he's pretty based, if you have a room temperature I.Q.

>>510852112 (OP)
>Neo-conservative
Oh, no.
We are not that.

On the Right, we believe in:

* Creation, micro, not macro evolution.
* Manchildren should grow up. Suffering would help.
* Women have no rights. They only have privileges given by simps. No women should be allowed in the military, police, or any position of authority.
* Sodomy should be recriminalized.
* Sodomites should be publicly executed for attempting to seduce children.
* The 59% should catch up to the 41%.
* Usury, the prime source of Jewish power, is evil.
* Race mixing is genocide. It is an attempt to destroy both races. Miscegenation should also be recriminalized.

Please stop letting centerist ‘conservatives’ pretend to be us.
They are the ideological transvestites.

>>510852112 (OP)
LOL nice hot take kike. Got any more brilliant ideas?

>Be evil, support the Illuminati.
No thanks.

>>510852112 (OP)
more like the lack of mention of the bush years, or of how obama was handed an 8 year mandate to fix the world and instead fucked it up worse, simply confirms that people are too stupid to live and you shouldnt worry about politics in general no matter how retarded things get

>>510852112 (OP)
I fw the neocons

>>510855382
In regards to MAGA, they ended up being forced to confront Iran. Trump didn't want to do it, he doesn't like foreign conflicts, he'd rather not get stuck in another Middle Eastern war. Understandably. So he tried to be reasonable with Iran, he gave them a 60 day deadline to make a deal, he was negotiating in good faith. What did they do? They used this as an excuse to mess him around and drag negotiations out with no intention of ever making a deal, all the while they were enriching uranium far beyond the 15% needed for civilian use (they got 400kg to around 60%). That proved they had no interest in making a nuclear deal + that they were lying about only wanting civilian use for nuclear power.

This forced Trump's hand and resulted in the bombing of their nuclear facilities. Trump evidently doesn't want to do it again too but he had no choice.
This proved people like Bolton right about Iran, because if Iran gets a nuke then you're going to get a nuclear arms race all over the Middle East which is a terrible idea for obvious reasons. It's also something no other big powers want because big powers don't like smaller ones getting nukes. It also would mean a fragile nuclear armed regime that's likely to collapse within the next decade or less with nuclear weapons falling into the hands of whatever Islamic terrorist groups would emerge. All of that is bad and should be avoided, so again Trump had no choice.

>>510852112 (OP)
neocons have fully gelded Trump and are taking their masks off

>>510852112 (OP)
Bush scandals on his watch:
>9/11
>Afghanistan war
>Iraq War
>Hurricane Katrina response
>Housing Bubble
>Great Recession

wow such a great president

>>510853653
US had an effective isolationist policy multiple times in its history and due to the slow death of the US dollar, it will be forced to do it again in the near future. Turns out that babysitting a planet full of retarded terrorist browns is actually not a great means of economic growth. Turns out, shipping peaches 8 times around the Earth is not optimal logistics. Turns out you wanted your supply chain nearby, so you can find and kill the guy who put lead in your baby toys. Turns out, responsibility without authority is slavery, and the US is expected to be responsible for every backwoods conflict on Earth, but also no one bends the knee to US political hegemony. Turns out, the US is teeming with natural resources, and the only thing holding us back is bad politics.

TLDR: You're a moron

>>510857908
>US had an effective isolationist policy multiple times in its history
Much less than people pretend. 'To the shores of Tripoli' refers to the Barbary war for example.

>due to the slow death of the US dollar,
This is a meme that commies and other anti Americans have been trying to will into existence by repeating it. I remember in the 00s it was a common line then, and was wrong then too.

>Turns out that babysitting a planet full of retarded terrorist browns is actually not a great means of economic growth
The US isn't babysitting a planet full of terrorist browns.
In any case, the US has seen massive economic growth since the end of ww2, becoming the world's economic hub. So that is the complete opposite of everything you're saying. You're glorifying a time, presumably before ww1, when the US was what we'd call a third world country today as if it was some golden era. Again, completely the opposite of reality.

> Turns out you wanted your supply chain nearby, so you can find and kill the guy who put lead in your baby toys.
Markets work by people choosing to buy things. There isn't lead in baby toys anyway and it's good that there are regulations against things like that. I'm not a lolbert who thinks the government should do nothing.

> the US is expected to be responsible for every backwoods conflict on Earth
It isn't. There's a lot of conflicts around the world right now that the US isn't involved with.
The Middle East has been an area that every big power has been involved with for obvious reasons.

>, but also no one bends the knee to US political hegemony
They're doing it less than they should and the reason is because of burgeoning isolationist demoralization in the US leading to cucks like Obama and Biden and Trump mk1 up to a point. (we'll see what he does in mk2).

If the US went isolationist the USD actually would collapse for real and China would happily take over all that ground the US gave up, and then the US would become much poorer