adult "Friendship" is a fantasy; friendship is political and opportunistic - /pol/ (#510857174) [Archived: 257 hours ago]

Anonymous ID: NDZSbtG9Canada
7/20/2025, 5:29:41 AM No.510857174
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there's a reason people say, "Adults don't make freind without motive".
Friends aren't friends.
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Anonymous ID: 0XbusWxh
7/20/2025, 5:32:03 AM No.510857300
>>510857174 (OP)
That only applies to overpopulated rat dystopia societies.
Anonymous ID: 1PVA1a9R
7/20/2025, 5:43:39 AM No.510857962
Neither view is universally true or false
Anonymous ID: JMdbdAcBUnited States
7/20/2025, 5:59:56 AM No.510859058
All relationships are transactional to some degree
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Anonymous ID: t5Oc+uq2Canada
7/20/2025, 6:05:03 AM No.510859330
>>510857174 (OP)
This nigga has no friends lmao
Anonymous ID: OdfwXr6GUnited States
7/20/2025, 6:08:58 AM No.510859550
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>>510857174 (OP)
I have 5 friends and have been friends with them since I was in highschool
I make friends regularly
I have genuinely been called the kindest and most innocent person anyone has ever known multiple times (by both men and women)
iv never had a GF and I'm single i also don't really care to be in a relationship because i don't feel id make a good partner and i have a self hatred issue (not white hatred I love being white I just hate myself and always have)
Anonymous ID: NDZSbtG9Canada
7/20/2025, 6:32:34 AM No.510860680
>>510859058
children being friends isn't so much tho

more based on waking up to this amazing world around them that seemingly has something incredible and new to offer every single day,

even in high school you can feel a camaraderie because you feel you've discovered injustice or a corrupt world and you feel you're above it or will be the ones to rebel and be different, etc
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Anonymous ID: JMdbdAcBUnited States
7/20/2025, 7:02:17 AM No.510861938
>>510860680
Children want to hang out with their friends because it's fun. It's similar to the idea of there being no such thing as true altruism, because even if you're doing something "selfless" you're still being rewarded in the form of the satisfaction that it gives you. Being motivated to do literally any action is by definition selfish because if there was no motive you wouldn't do it. Which is why it's dumb to get too hung up on the reality of relationships being transactional, because if you follow that logic to its conclusion the only "good" action is something between blinking out of existence and throwing yourself into a furnace
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Anonymous ID: NDZSbtG9Canada
7/20/2025, 7:06:53 AM No.510862123
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>>510861938
true, but sometimes the limits of that can be jarring. an old friend comes to town and gets in toouch.
you plan to do something.
then he cancels because "something came up".
yuou find out later that what came up was the chance to do something else with someone else.

now you understand what your value to your friend really is
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Anonymous ID: bllbQCLKCanada
7/20/2025, 7:16:16 AM No.510862547
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Yeah, really sucks coming out of losing a group I had for 5 years

Ultimately it was because my value in making stories exceeded my burden, and so when I stopped DMing our rpg stuff I was eventually cast out for calling a member with a moustache "He" instead of she when he posted his face, where normally I'd have been tolerated saying things that clashes with their beliefs.

It's all give and take, even frivolous stuff like a discord RPG. Ultimately it's on me as well for tolerating such degeneracy because I didn't have other "friends"
Anonymous ID: EtiuMWZXUnited States
7/20/2025, 7:29:29 AM No.510863035
>>510857174 (OP)
Sounds like some poojeet or Jewish mentality. I have and make friends to share good times with. Some I can trust with important things some I can't. I don't expect anything from them expect human decency.
Anonymous ID: JMdbdAcBUnited States
7/20/2025, 7:30:55 AM No.510863105
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>>510862123
Is that a reflection of the second person being more valuable than you in an objective sense, or merely contextually more valuable to the first person? The former informs the latter to some degree, but they're not one-to-one. Ultimately your responsibility is to determine what (You) value and seek to embody that to the greatest degree possible; for some people this will increase your value to them, for others it will diminish it, and for still others it might have no effect on their valuation of you. If you think their low valuation of you is reflective of something you should improve, then do so, but don't uncritically assume that it's merited
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Anonymous ID: tiIrrJoyCanada
7/20/2025, 8:13:39 AM No.510864328
>>510859058
this is what makes you creepy instead of friendly
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Anonymous ID: ezMqkEx3United States
7/20/2025, 8:22:30 AM No.510864644
>>510857174 (OP)
>there's a reason people say, "Adults don't make freind without motive".
never heard a soul say this ever
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Anonymous ID: YCm3IRWQUnited States
7/20/2025, 8:25:26 AM No.510864762
>>510857174 (OP)
ya'll fucked up
low trust niggers
friendship is about trust
brotherhood
you've been psyop'd and fucking ruined
we used to fight and die for one another
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Anonymous ID: M/6Md7gdUnited States
7/20/2025, 8:25:54 AM No.510864782
Adult friends are not the same as young friends.

An adult friend will pretend not to know things, and you for them as well
Anonymous ID: JMdbdAcBUnited States
7/20/2025, 8:28:39 AM No.510864881
>>510864328
I'm making a philosophical point desu, I treat other people well and most people like me
Anonymous ID: gx4rZHt2United States
7/20/2025, 8:33:16 AM No.510865065
>>510864762
This. I hang out with my friends and do things like lift and hitting the range. There's nothing transactional or an ulterior motive other than helping eachother become better and just hanging out whenever. OP is a fag and just has a shitty personality
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Anonymous ID: tdRNycqWUnited States
7/20/2025, 8:39:41 AM No.510865314
>>510857174 (OP)
I fully believe that healthy social communities existed before like 2010, but what do I know, I'm a zoomer.
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Anonymous ID: YCm3IRWQUnited States
7/20/2025, 8:42:36 AM No.510865435
>>510865314
They did.
At some point you became weak for helping other people and the third world mentality set in.
Then it was about using others for personal gain, no more community.
Anonymous ID: 4d1J+9QHUnited States
7/20/2025, 8:42:53 AM No.510865449
>>510857174 (OP)
To me it seems like with adults that you meet as an adult you have to always be on like you have to always try to be interesting, funny, etc, everyone is busy and they don't care about you in same way some friend you had from school would care. People still want interaction and to be around others but only if the others are making them feel good. Like people I've worked with I had good rapport but I haven't talked to them since that job ended but if I talked to them again and I was seeming interesting and engaging they would probably be happy to talk to me but they don't actually care about me.
Anonymous ID: SZbxPEZVGermany
7/20/2025, 8:44:22 AM No.510865502
>>510857174 (OP)
I have thought about this, but if you make friends with a snake then you are probably interested in its skin.
Anonymous ID: NDZSbtG9Canada
7/20/2025, 8:49:04 AM No.510865686
>>510863105
clearly I was valued less, and that's OK
1. don't imply you had to cancel because of a work or family obligation (that's how it seemed)
2. not something i can improve, no. the other person just has more value to the friend
3. the silver lining is that I now know where I stand and that will help me in the future

if I'd made plans with a friend, I wouldn't change them because i later had a chance to hang with someone else - but that's me.
maybe I'm naive
Anonymous ID: NDZSbtG9Canada
7/20/2025, 8:51:06 AM No.510865765
>>510864644
common saying in Asia
maybe originating in China, or Japan, Korea?

no mater where it comes from, it's something to think about
Anonymous ID: NDZSbtG9Canada
7/20/2025, 8:53:31 AM No.510865869
>>510865065
>There's nothing transactional or an ulterior motive other than helping each other become better
so you'd go even if you never got to lift or whatever "hitting the range" means?