Why did the right wing totally FAIL at solving the issue of birthrates and marriage rates? Tradcucks failed, Trump being in office twice made no difference.
I need to understand why you guys failed at taking on this issue. Don't run away and ignore it, you guys complain about this all day, we have multiple threads every hour about this. How can civilization continue if people aren't getting married or having kids?
>b-b-but it's all the fault of modern men
That's a lazy and very feminine way of looking at the situation. Guys aren't perfect but everyone from /pol/ to the media has blamed them for this and what has that achieved? Women are horrible and nobody wants to even talk about that.
If this isn't solved, it will be a long decline of non-whites replacing whites and you will no longer be able to call civilization 'yours' anymore (we have already reached that point pretty much).

Solving the issue requires dramatic reform that the uniparty won't conscience because it threatens the position of the ruling class

>>510865987 (OP)
People were having kids in wars, in caves, in famines, in prison, during the fucking plague, and even to this day idiotic teenagers are accidentally getting pregnant. There isn't a social, cultural, or economic issue on earth that prevents people from having children. However there is one issue that does prevent it: a lack of spiritual fulfillment aka demoralization. If people feel demoralized and hopeless, they turn to addiction, degeneration, suicide, crime, and ultimately childlessness. Qui bono? Qui indeed.

There is only one group that benefits from the spiritual demoralization of goyim, especially of whites. Take a guess.

>>510866399
There is something to be said about how destroying an enemy's morale makes them unable to fight. The art of war brushes on that a bit, but mostly focuses on other aspects of warfare, in a total holistic kind of approach.
How would people become re-moralized? Blaming everything on shy young guys who can't afford houses isn't the answer.

>>510865987 (OP)
It's going to take a total collapse of western governments and a lot of dead people, and frankly we're waiting to see if Russia or China will just do it for us. We really don't want to fucking do it ourselves, we're trying really hard not to go there. Oofy Doofy was the cope that was keeping the gears turning.

>>510865987 (OP)
The right wing solved it for themselves; birth rates of conservatives are measurably higher than liberals; this is especially true for whites.

>>510865987 (OP)
The strategy of American right is to make government smaller so it just creates void for left to later fill. Instead they should pack government with loyalists the way the left does but the right is controlled opposition with the goal always to lose long-term.

>>510865987 (OP)
You don't even live in this USA. Your country is turning into a sewer and yet you spend your time pointing out flaws of others.

If the Epstein scandal hasn't convinced you at this point that things are *actually* run by an unknown cabal of blackmailed pedophiles.... I don't even know what to say to you at this point. Ask them what their motives are, actually we aren't privy to who "them" even is.

The Jews pushed feminism upon us while all the men were fighting the world wars

>>510865987 (OP)
my birthrate did go with my GF which did go from 18 yr hot girl that wants kids to career feminist while going to university

>>510865987 (OP)
on the national level it's because the necessary changes identified here and elsewhere simply haven't been enacted.
on a personal level having kids to try and up the birth rate is like voting to get candidate you want, it doesn't make a difference.
having kids to

>>510866937
Supreme cope. They are below replacement in pretty much every developed nation.
>>510867022
You're a stupid moron. Can you not see that I am talking about the west as a whole? Dumb faggot.
>>510867241
This makes no sense.

>>510867643
no, the religious conservative right wingers are the only cohort of white people who are above replacement level and this pattern repeats in all western countries.
Which is a big whitepill for all the doom and gloomers.
The white race will eventually evolve back to health.

>>510867891
I am not talking about different in-groups and enclaves. I am talking about whites and the west as a whole. We could also talk about the high Amish birthrate, yet that does nothing for the overall picture.

>>510865987 (OP)
Because it's not poor or rich, it's not left or right, it's not western or easter, it's not condoms or feminism.

Can you guess the country?

The simple fact is if you want people to have children you need society enforced marriages with 2 kids minimum. No amount of money, benefits and good will ever steer the ship around.
Every society on earth from the poor Africans to the Japanese looks like the graph here.
People don't die as much so there is no need for 7 kids to make sure one survives.
People don't need to fuck a women to feel satisfied pornography covers that gap.
People don't need societal approval to feel satisfied they have the internet.
People don't need to fear unwanted children there condoms, pills and even morning after pills.
When did people have children?
Post WW2 boom when everything was ruined and there was a societal "spirit" or rebuilding. Percentage wise not a lot of people died in WW2 compared to the great plague or even Chinese civil wars. But every country after it had massive amounts of children.
The modern equivalent to this is Jews in Israel attacked from all sides and Kosovo we will take "our lands" back by out breeding the Serbs.
You need a societal consensus that more people need to be made. And thats it's a outmost imperative to do it. You need to drill this into every girl and boys head.
Just look at Japan it was by far the most bombed, destroyed and leveled out of all the WW2 countries. They got quite literally bombed into the stonge age and what do you see in the post WW2 pictuers. Shit like this.

>>510868483
>Every society on earth from the poor Africans to the Japanese looks like the graph here.
Woops forgot the graph

Because if all boils down to female preference and there’s no way to change that politically

>>510868544
Except it has been changed countless times in the past. Just look at Afganistan. You think it's birthrate didn't go up when they locked women inside their house and breeding machines?

>>510868152
my response to that was here
>>510867391
but those small numbers of conservatives who are above replacement are signficant atleast in the sense that atleast we know white people aren't going to simply be lost to extinction, so long as those wonderful God fearing racist white people exist.
nothing will change until the Kalergi plan jews and deracinated elites who want us dead or enslaved get destroyed.
I mean if we had above replacement birth rates in this current paradigm, it wouldn't be much to sing about.
>hooray I made 4 babies for my overlords to enjoy, I'm such a good goy.
idk dude I think things will improve dramatically improve after this system inevitable collapses.

>>510865987 (OP)
before i respond to a low iq thread, have you laid out a solution? i have several but this thread isn't worthy.

>>510865987 (OP)
Since I'm approaching 40 with no kids, at this point I say bring on the money printing and the Mexicans...it just makes it easier for me to retire earlier

feminism destroys EVERY culture, without fail
it has been tried repeatedly over several thousand years
J D Unwin showed this historically in 1934

The issue is that every economic type conflicts with each other. For example, the ones in the upper half would hurt profits of the lower half, while the bottom would be exploitation. Kinda like how a pharmaceutical company can’t make a profit if you’re not an unhealthy addict.

>>510865987 (OP)
Liberalism and democracy caused this and we have not reached the point that we are willing to remove the problems.

>>510865987 (OP)
It's the economy. It has always been and will be. Human civilization has never been this grotesquely unequal in such a very delicate and tightly controlled system. Not about feminism or OnlyFans. Musk and the Telegram guy breed like rats because they have money but we don't. We just can't afford it. In this rigged system we can barely maintain a functioning family like we once did in the 20th century with our average income, like the Cold War era when the Western elites were kept in check because of the USSR. The rich fuck and "purchase" women on an OnlyFans-like platform and even enjoy themselves in somewhere like Epstein Island with impunity, more women participate in this lifestyle to make money whatever it costs to survive. Seems like the only answer will be >>510866846 this. It's a slow, agonizing process and it will only get worse as time goes by.

>>510865987 (OP)
Because the only socially acceptable brand of masculinity is mimicking retard subuman P-Diddy rap culture unga bunga materialistic nigger masculinity. Moralfags and tradfags REEK of weakness and seen as dysgenic by women while violent males are seen as fit for selection by women (they are correct). The number 1 taboo is white male tribalism and masculinity which functionally castrates the white male. Couple that with general decadence, how all white females are SSRI zombies, and how all white males are perma blackpilled and the result is: it's over and all you can do is accelerate towards pure chaos and collapse.

>>510865987 (OP)
Why would trump (centrist) do anything about the birthrates?

>>510865987 (OP)
Because every western country is feminist. Remove feminism and the problem will fix itself. Go back to arranged marriages even.

>>510866783
Make shit affordable and make more industry.

>>510865987 (OP)
Who cares, white population is higher than ever. Porky is just going to replace you, because capitalism REQUIRES continuous growth. You retards cant reproduce your way out of this. Its a money issue and cause.

>>510865987 (OP)
>Trump being in office twice made no difference.
wow, how did he fail to solve all the problems in 7 months of a 4 year term?

>>510865987 (OP)
birth rates collapsed due to the industrial revolution and only got bumped up after WW2 in the baby boom. if you really want more babies, then people need to be poor. poor people have lots of kids.

>>510865987 (OP)
I don't understand how that chart relates to the wojacks in the image. You're assuming the entire problem is women, which isn't surprising since this is /pol/ and an incel thread.
Why are men part of this equation? Many modern Men simply aren't capable of raising children properly or providing for a family. Right wing men also support policies that make being a mother ungrateful and too risky.

>>510872630
I agree with your picrel that our OWN PEOPLE should be helped.
But White people working to feed all the jewish and nigger kids, that just fucking retarded.
Each tribe to their own, and in our own ethnostates of course everyone will be and should be fed.

>>510872630
You are correct though that the current situation is untenable - and created by jews.
Whites don't want to be endlessly taxed to feed all the niggers and jews - which they already are to an insane degree but that definitely shouldn't be done.
But because removing the jews and non-whites hasn't been an option since the hope of a normal world died in 1945, yeah the policies to stop paying for all the nonwhite parasites will also fuck over your own White people that need help, which is a bad thing.

The real way to fix it all would be looking towards solutions to take back our White ethnostates so normalcy could be restored.
It does seem though that jews will sabotage any attempts of us taking back our countries - so it needs to start from killing all the jews so the nonwhites can be sent to their own homes.

Why the jews do that? Well it's clear, the nonwhites the jews import work as allies, because the imported nonwhites dont want to leave Whites alone either and go back home, so they too will help the jews fight any Nazi ideology of Whites taking back their own homes.


>The reason you fight for an open society is because that's the only society that you can live in, as a Jew unless you become a nationalist and only fight for your own rights in your own state.
- George Soros (NY Times 17/7/2018)

>The Census Bureau has just reported that about half of the American population will son be non-white or non-European. And they will all be American citizens. We have tipped beyond the point where a Nazi-Aryan party will be able to prevail in this Country. We [Jews] have been nourishing the American climate of opposition to bigory for about a half a century. That climate has not yet been perfected, but the heterogeneous nature of our population tends to make it irreversible—and makes our constitutional constraints against bigotry more pratical than ever."
- Earl Raab, The Jewish Bulletin, 9th Feb 1993, p. 23

>>510872752
>I agree with your picrel that our OWN PEOPLE should be helped.
Okay but how do you legislate that? Your hatred of other races outweighs the love of your own. As a result, you create crabs-in-a-bucket society where you prefer to see no one receive help at all. Why the hell would a woman, even a white woman, choose to have a child under these conditions?

>>510873321
>Okay but how do you legislate that?
We simply revert back to the ethnostates we used to have. It is indeed correct that its nigh-impossible to legislate or manage a multicultural multiethnic society - its insanity to even try - there will always be competing ethnic interests.

Even the very inventors of democracy - Greeks - knew that multi-ethnic multi-racial democracy can never work its an impossibility.
Of course, anyone with more than a single braincell immediately understand this to be true - in a racial and cultural jungle there will always be competing interests.

That is why only a person born to TWO Athenian parents could be a citizen - and only an Athenian citizen could vote.
Ancient Greece was the world's first White ethnostate democracy.
But I bet they left that part out in your civics class due to kiked schooling

It's always by the way you nonwhites who dress ethnonationalism as "hate". Of course I hate the shitskinned gang-rapists and pushers of islam and judaism and other cultures that dont belong, and I especially hate jews that push for multiculturalism and have destroyed our beautiful, natural and safe White ethnostates with that.
But mostly for the other races its not about hate, its about the fact that EVERYONE should have their own ethnostates. Its not about Whites just having one, but other people too. Japanese deserve their own ethnostate, Koreans deserve their own ethnostate, Arabs are better off living in their own ethnostates and so on.

>>510872921
>We have to genocide all non-whites and jews
Do you guys ever have a real solution to these things? You're never going to get all of white society to support mass murder, especially since most white people have non-white/jewish friends and family.

>>510873321
For you, living in America you'd have to go back to 1960 when it still was a 90% White ethnostate, before jews destroyed it with the 1965 immigration act with the sole purpose of importing allies to jews so an "Nazi-Aryan" party would never rise and kick the jews out.
So the only reason why ethnostates were destroyed were because jews are parasites not wanting to live with their own kind - so they want to make sure they're never kicked out of other peoples homes - they dont care if those homes get destroyed in the process they only think about whether THEY are getting kicked out.

But see the thing is that as recently as in 90s we still used to be White ethnostates in Europe, and we were actually alive to see it for us, and how multiculturalism destroys everything.

As a comparison if you've ever seen zombie apocalypse movies, you've born into the zombie apocalypse and thus you don't know of any better.
I on the other hand, was born before the virus of multiculturalism was spread here by the jewry, and have seen what kind of a paradise ethnostates can be, its THE way EVERYONE should be living its the NATURAL way, while multiculturalism is forced and UNNATURAL

>>510873646
In 1990 Finland was 98% White and 95% Finnish or Swedish.
We were very prosperous, our GDP per capita was 20% over USA, in fact every Scandinavian county were richer than USA.

And we were a safe, functional, picturesque White ethnostate utopia.
People that didn't get to see it can't even understand it, it was an indescribable paradise, it felt so free you could relax all the time, do whatever you want wherever, nothing would ever happen, everyone is your people and everyone ultimately have the same goals and not antagonistic like kikes vs humans.

Then it happened, jewish demons sunk their claws on us and brought their multiculturalism. And it destroyed everything.
And it didn't only destroy my home, but it destroyed all European homes. I don't even like traveling Europe anymore because how blackpilling the reality of it is, seeing niggers and shitskin loiter around everywhere, picking pockets, scamming, being loud and violent, selling shit on the corner like its iraqi bazaar.
Now, like most of Europe, we are flooded with third world welfare immigrants and Islamic invaders. Our own government arranged a charter flight for ISIS concubines and their programmed little head-cutting hell spawn.

Going from "everyone leaves their doors unlocked" to "don't wear your jewelry when you go to town" in two decades was shocking.
We had been living in "Lintukoto". What our mythology refers to as the place where birds migrate, where heaven and earth connect and where small people live in peace and harmony. But what is currently mockingly referring to the idea that Finns want to continue living independently, in peace and harmony as unrealistic and naive. And there really is no reason, other than the globalist scumbags' decision to sell our country to EU and the international bankers, that we couldn't continue to be Lintukoto.

>>510865987 (OP)
>If this isn't solved, it will be a long decline of non-whites replacing whites
That is going to happen regardless of you having children.

>>510873665

The hatred I have for the jews for destroying not only my home but the entire world with their multiculturalism, it cannot possibly be put into words.
It's sort of pure, burning, righteous hatred that cannot even be described.

The jews need to pay back for what they have done, but how can they even get their proper due for literally destroying the world.
Even if you killed every single jew 1000 times over they still havent paid.

We really must get creative, we maybe need to set them to forever hard labor slavery to pay for what they have done till eternity.
But then again who even wants jewish labor, they're literally useless parasites.

It angers me that even if we kill them all it will still feel that they got away with it all

>>510873517
Only the jews need to be killed - and thats because history shows they will never just fuck off and keep out. Thousands of expulsions, but they keep on crawling back and fucking shit up.
It's obvious that there is no other solution to the JQ than total annihilation.

For the other non-whites on the other hand, they can simply be sent home.
And for example India, Central America and South America is already so mixed that they'll never become ethnostates. Of course that is what the jew is ultimately trying to do to White ethnostates, and even to Japan and Korea, to introduce enough nonwhites so the society would become mixed enough to never become a functional ethnostate again.
So for mixed-race people they could either go to the homelands of their nonwhite parent, or go to the mixed race zone of south america.
It isnt even that bad, south america that is, its got lot going for it.

The thing is, that we must stop the jews from making the entire world mixed-race, that must not happen.
Saving pure races and cultures is important, not everything becoming a raceless mixed race mass of kalergi meat that the kike commands around

"Tradcucks" are about the only group still raising families besides "baby mammas" from the ghetto. If they have failed it is because there are not enough of them, though their populations are increasing exponentially.

We are watching natural selection take place. Those inclined to resist degeneracy, either through culture or genetics, will compose the majority of people IQ 100+ in the future.

>>510865987 (OP)
our civilization doesn't have a story of why we bother to be together
look at israel
they are "western" and "liberal" but they fuck and are happy

what do I have in common with some girl in seattle who does friendsgiving, has a rainbow flag on her porch, and works as an eternal barista who would otherwise have a great womb? nearly nothing, in fact, we've been propagandized as enemies. I'm sure that the cheeks still clap and the folds still grip but somehow the dick hates the vagina and the vagina hates the dick. the dick and the vagina must come together

>>510873945
i wonder though if the amish keep to themselves and out of society, and whites ultimately die out, who the fuck is going to pay for the "baby mammas" gibs
i dont understand how the niggers dont realize that the only reason they dont have the same standard of living as they did in africa, is because Whites are subsidizing their existence
they are really fucking stupid

>>510865987 (OP)
>If everyone just follows 'my plan' then everything will be okay!
the point is how do you get everyone to follow. Democracies split the populous against itself, you can't create a unifying cause, including toppling the democracy. we're in the end game just let it happen

>>510874115
I think that even the NPCs who only consume judeo-american media and are totally ignorant of the White genocide that is going on, I think they still know/feel at a subconscious level that things are not alright and the future of that child isn't looking good so the K-selection sensibilities kick in and the child is not had.

When you think that being denied our own existence is an unprecedented situation that Whites have never been in, that's not true.
The reason there are only Whites in Europe in recent times is because it was the only place where we managed to keep the browns out that always infinitely try to to encroach to our places.
There used to be Whites in North india, but they've been miscegenated out of existence thousands of years ago. In fact india is what our future will look like, unless we stop the jew and its multiculturalism madness.
The whole eastern mediterranean seaboard and Turkey on the way was also White and the cities built by White people, mostly greeks and romans, although Ankara in Turkey amongst some other cities were built by Celts of all people, so those who live in Ireland today.
Pharaoh age Egyptians were possibly White, possibly not. They have similar DNA profile to Anglos, but we don't know their skin color. What we do know though that they're completely extinct and replaced by the arab, the arab has ZERO genetic connection to the egyptian.

You can only keep White lands alive by keeping the non-whites out, there is no other way.
This is why jews are trying to defeat us with the one way they can - ethnic replacement.
Anything else is survivable - ethnic replacement isn't.

And its not just Whites either, for example in Africa there used to be hundreds more ethnicities than there are today - but the most genocidal human race of all time - the Bantus - wiped hundreds of them out to extinction during the Bantu expansion.

>>510865987 (OP)
>Why did the right wing totally FAIL at solving the issue of birthrates and marriage rates?

Because feminism needs to be rolled back to the 1910s in order for that to be possible. Child support, no-fault divorce, and the birth control pills would all need to be banned in order to force women to stop being psycho whores, and they need to be forced because as long as they have the option of being psycho whores they will. The right does not yet have the stomach for this, but ten years ago the right didn't have the stomach for mass deportations which it now demands. Where will the Overton Window shift to by 2035?

>>510874329
A multi-ethnic multi-cultural democracy can never work - it is an oxymoron.
As pointed out >>510873480 ancient Greeks already knew this when inventing it.
And also literally anyone with two braincells and think more than 2 seconds about it, its OBVIOUS that multiethnic multicultural democracy CAN NOT work

>>510867016

The right doesn't want to do a long march of institutions because right wing people don't want to be bureaucrats. If I were wrong then you would have some pointless irrelevant county level elected or appointed position right now and be attending weekly meetings with half-dead boomers

>>510874609
the flow of immigration we were getting from mexico was actually sustaining America, but fear of brown people destroyed that. There is no cause that will fix this, including monocultural movements. the system is ending

>>510867073
the "Epstein scandal" also merely exists to distract you from jews signing weapon peddling contracts and voting themselves higher salaries while crashing the economy

>>510874824
You are literally wrong the non-whites cost the society as whole, only people that it was "sustaining" was the grifters and scammers and parasites that did no labor of their own, like jewish landlords

it's true in literally every single White country that immigration only makes the country richer if its WHITE immigration, otherwise the immigration costs you
Every single statistic ever published from any White country point to this same fact thats why jews pushing for this bullshit never ever publish any statistics because none of it ever supports their argument
Only thing they do is use some old statistics saying immigration used to make America rich failing to point out that it was WHITE immigration

Immigration depresses wages while simulatenously raising price of housing its lessening the quality of life and prosperity even before you take into account all the increased crime and decreased trust and social cohesion

There is absolutely no way immigration is a good thing for the average White man that works for his keep with his own labor
Only people getting rich off immigration is not the working people not the society, its the non-working parasites who do shit like landlording and section 8 housing and flipping real estate

>>510868483
Two more things are work there:
Familial ambition - most relevant in asia - but in those days it also played a role in the West: people wanted to keep their lineage alive or advance it, make sure their children could attain a slightly higher station in life than they did themselves, or simply strengthening the "clan" - in fact this is the oldest reason: babies strengthen the clan.
Overcrowding. I think people can, on some level, tell when there's enough people. The cities always had lower birth-rates than rural areas, because the mass of people already present convinces them to not have 8 children. The cost of living space may actually be a concern too.

>>510872921
The multiculturalism part is a lie. They want White people exterminated. Just wanting multiculturalism is a lie used to cover up their goal of extermination of Whites until it's too late to prevent it.

>>510873665
>our GDP per capita
Muh GeeDeePee.
>>510874171
>who the fuck is going to pay
Muh (mostly fictional) fiat currency.
This is how you got to where you are. Believing and adopting jewish lies but hating their consequences.
If the White race is to survive, it must abolish capitalism (money, banks and a for-financial-profit operated economy).
You cannot oppose the jewish goal of extermination of Whites while vehemently supporting and defending the core and seat of jewish power: capitalism (money, banks and a for-financial-profit operated economy).
Are you ready to give up your jewish holy cow of capitalism to save your race?

>>510876094
Of course, I have always been a national socialist.
I know very well that the international jew derives all its power from this debt-based ((private and individualized)) central banking system.
That was NSDAP's crime, the jewish bankers did not give a fuck about Poland nor even the jews in summer camps waiting to be deported to Palestine, they cared about stopping national socialism.

National socialist doctrine is the acknowledgement that everyone should live in peaceful ethnostates with their own people, and not live in other people's countries.
And the economic policy side of it is to structure the economy in a way that disincentivizes parasitism like rentiering, and also shuts out foreign investors, keeping all the prosperity inside the nations borders, no international jew stealing the profits that your people worked for.
Money will be printed debt-free interest-free by the State Bank, instead of the current central banking system where the money is created by "loaning" it from the jews, i.e. you are on the hook to jewish private bankers for the loan and its interest even though it came from thin air.
>https://www.nationalists.org/pdf/hitler/manifesto-for-abolition-enslavement-interest-on-money-gottfried-feder.pdf

There is absolutely nothing wrong or immoral about people feeling more comfortable and inspired when being surrounded by people like themselves. In fact, it’s what is best for everyone intellectually, emotionally, physically and spiritually.
When communities are homogeneous, there is an instinctive obligation to look out for one another. Society goes from zero sum adversaries to cooperative big families.

People are happier; civic engagement is high; prosperity is more evenly distributed and enjoyed and culture flourishes.
It’s all been definitively proven by all sociological studies and the entirety of human history.

>>510876094
Also you're clearly a retard though, possibly not even White, considering your understanding of economics is extremely limited yet you are very confident talking about it.
I don't know how to even explain basic economics to a nigger but I'll try, the fiat moneys value needs to come out of somewhere, discounting USA that gets unearned value due to being a reserve currency that creates extra demand for it, otherwise what makes your fiat currency value relative to others is that something is produced and then someone wants your product and needs your fiat to purchase it.
You have a nigger level of understanding if you think "just print more" is going to work after the Whites are gone, and by nigger level understanding I mean precisely that because its exactly what numerous African countries has tried and subsequently got Zimbabwe levels of inflation.

So no if there is no Whites to run the economy the fiat wont be worth shit so all you can give the niggers is worthless paper, like in Zimbabwe.
So I ask again, who the fuck is gonna feed them? They cant eat the worthless paper.

>>510871299
>Not about feminism
Then how come countries where feminism is suppressed or doesn't even exist still have high birthrates while the most feminist countries are way below replacement level? Feminists will even gloat about it, saying there's too many (white) people and how they'll get a "diverse society" from immigration.

>>510870508
>feminism destroys EVERY culture, without fail

Funny you should mention that.....

>>510865987 (OP)
All the good looking women who would make great wives and mothers are taken in high school and college the latest. Whatever remains is taken shortly after they enter the workforce. There exist very few good looking (7 and above) women that are single and have a good heart, are modest, raised in a decent family, soft spoken and pretty. The window of opportunity when they are single is very very narrow. These are the 2% of women, the highest stock of females this wonderful creation can offer. If you don't frequent their circles or the events they attend you have no chance of meeting them. Women also don't go anywhere alone, so whatever hobbies women have or events they attend it is done with their husband or boyfriend and if they are single with their groups of friends.

tldr; there simply aren't enough single good looking young white women to go around for everybody, they are rare and exist mostly in very niche places where men without social circles (loners) can't get in to

>>510865987 (OP)
Late Stage Capitalism is tankie bullshit for, "too many libertine LeftLibs in power" but they don't want to piss off their useful idiot shock troops.

>>510866260
200 posts on the topic:

https://ourchan DOT org/pol/thread/16434.html

>>510865987 (OP)
Literally the only solution to the birthrate problem is rolling back women's rights to the year 1900.
No voting
No higher education
No career work
No owning property
No initiating divorce
Do these things and I guarantee that the birthrate will skyrocket within a few years. Make women legally the dependents of men, and men will solve the birthrate issue.

>>510865987 (OP)
Ban judeobolshevic free love

>>510866399
You're just failing to understand the issue.
A primitive in a cave had kids for three reasons.
1) he's horny
2) he can overpower a woman who's also horny anyway
3) nothing prevents a kid from being born

In the year of our lord 2000 +25 laws and technology ensure that:
1) Women cannot be overpowered, and if they are, your life is over, you criminal
2) even if the women are horny, they can abort or use condoms indefinitely to keep having orgasms without consequences.
3) porn is still far easier to access than a horny fertile woman

We have strayed from nature and we're paying the consequences. Christianity kept people having a minimum amount of kids. Depopulation happened before in history when societies got too focused on empowering women. It even happened to Rome more than once. But the problem is not women specifically, it's men giving away their power and becoming slaves to their rulers. Women have to be overpowered by nature. A slave can't overpower anything and doesn't reproduce unless he's pastured like cattle.
You go out and start setting fire to government buildings and I assure you horny women ready to give birth to your prole will swarm you. You know it's what happens to murderers and celebrities. It's all the same to women. They are aroused by male power and disgusted by cowards and slaves

>>510876489
>Money will be
Heh. Your lips can't let go of the jewish cut dick of capitalism.
You cannot be free of jewish power without relinquishing money itself. It's a metaphysical truth.
>>510876650
>Also you're clearly a retard though, possibly not even White, considering your understanding of economics is extremely limited yet you are very confident talking about it.
And there we go. Defending your sacred jewish cow of money and capitalism.
>>510876650
>the fiat moneys value needs to come out of somewhere
You still don't understand that where we need to get to is NO MONEY. No monetary system at all.
>to a nigger
>You have a nigger level of understanding
Projecting. Noticed how I did not insult you like you felt the need to insult me.
>if you think "just print more" is going to work
I want to move beyond money altogether.
>by nigger level understanding I mean precisely that
Projecting again.
>the fiat wont be worth shit
I want to move beyond money altogether. And beyond banking, which is legalised fraud, and beyond capitalism (a for-financial-profit operated economy), which is a jewish scam.
>So I ask again, who the fuck is gonna feed them?
Why do you ask me? How is it my problem and what do I care?
>They cant eat the worthless paper.
As you will too, unless you understand that you cannot have racial survival and capitalism. You can only have one. Or the other.

>>510881076
>No monetary system at all.
back to using pepper as the exchange coin or you mean absolutely no trade at all?
>capitalism
the romanian economic miracle was the result of empoverishing the population, no, not the cocksukers plucking tomatoes in Italy that come home with large cars, but the peasants out there in the rural areas
but before anyone even argues with you, why would you have anything to say about capitalism, a system that you never ever implemented in your oligarchical managed democracy?
it would be like me commenting on the Rwandan genocide even though I have absolutely no experience, knowledge or even remotely lived through it
>romanian flag
most Romanians sound like Russian spy drones taht did not have their firmware updated for ages, so they're still stuck on the old-timer propaganda with stuff like "AIDS came from Africa" and other stuff that even Russians themselves admitted and published papers showing that they were literally propaganda talking points
I have to give it to you Andrei, you overdid yourself this time...
I'm bouncing back and forth between calling you a retard or calling you insane insane and I just can't tell which one would be the best fit for you

>>510882906
>back to using pepper as the exchange coin or you mean absolutely no trade at all?
No. On to not using money at all. I can see your feeble mind is repelled by the very contour of the nation, can't even begin to grasp what I'm proposing.
>capitalism
Is a for-financial-profit operated economy.
>the romanian economic miracle
Heh. Can't tell if Sirius of sarcastic.
>was the result of empoverishing the population
Yes, in real terms.
>but before anyone even argues with you,
About what?
>why would you have anything to say about capitalism
Capitalism is a for-financial-profit operated economy.
>a system that you never ever implemented in your oligarchical managed democracy?
Our "economy" is not operated for financial profit? I would beg to differ.
>it would be like me commenting on the Rwandan genocide even though I have absolutely no experience
It sounds like you think capitalism is something whit it is not.
Another case of the:
>nut muh tru, genuine, honest & reel gapidalism©℗™(pbuh)!
it would seem.
>knowledge or even remotely lived through it
We don't live in a for-financial-profit operated economy?
>most Romanians sound like Russian spy drones taht did not have their firmware updated for ages
Muh Roshans.
>I have to give it to you Andrei, you overdid yourself this time...
I do not worship the jewish holy cow of money, banking (legalised fraud) and capitalism (a for-financial-profit operated economy - a jewish scam).
I must, therefore, be Roshan.
>I'm bouncing back and forth between calling you a retard or calling you insane insane and I just can't tell which one would be the best fit for you
Oh, you sure have me over a barrel here, partner. I don't even know where I'll sleep tonight I'm so cornered and defeated.

>>510883419
>gapidalism©℗™(pbuh)!
so much emotion, are you female?
>replying to small snippets of sentences instead of the main point and then vicitimizing yourself as if you do not know the point that was being made as the pinnacle of passive aggressivity
"before anyone even argues with you" was well on what topic, which is economics, something that you were arguing with by responding to others
Russian, schizo or a retard
>muh US bad, Russia good
you're so simple to guess it's like Romania is an open-air drone factory for Russia with most of you sharing the exact same ideas across every single post you make
makes you even wonder why your government is trying to hard to pretend that they're actually on the side of the US if it weren't for the lavish money payouts you get for literally no effort
>Sirius
>Roshan
stick to religion and Russian propaganda, it's the only things you'd excel at, you're retarded to the point of being confused with being insane

>>510884442
>so much emotion
Projecting.
>are you female?
No.
>replying to small snippets of sentences instead of the main point
I reply to each individual point in part.
>and then vicitimizing yourself
Nope. Making fun of your copes.
>as if you do not know the point that was being made as the pinnacle of passive aggressivity
I'm openly mocking fools who worship the jewish sacred cow of money, banking and capitalism. There's nothing passive about my open mockery of you morons.
>"before anyone even argues with you" was well on what topic, which is economics, something that you were arguing with by responding to others
I don't know what your point or assertion is here.
>Russian,
Not Russian.
>schizo
Ok.
>or a retard
Projecting.
>muh US bad,
Yes.
>Russia good
Meh, much less bad.
>you're so simple to guess it's like Romania is an open-air drone factory for Russia with most of you sharing the exact same ideas across every single post you make
Incoherent sentence. Are you claiming or implying that not tonguing the jewish cut dick of capitalism and not worshipping the jewish holy cow of money, banking and financial profit means you're Russian or a drone for Rossia?
Ok. I won't try and debate you on that.
>makes you even wonder why your government
Whose government?
>is trying to hard to pretend that they're actually on the side of the US
Huh?
>if it weren't for the lavish money payouts you get for literally no effort
Who is getting lavish money payouts? From whom?
>Sirius
Intentional misspelling of serious for comedic effect.
>Roshan
Intentional misspelling of Russian for comedic effect.
>stick to religion
Huh?
>and Russian propaganda
Care to share some examples? Anything that challenges the jewish holy cows of money, banking or financial profit?
Russia is thoroughly capitalist and heavily ZOGged as well. They're not my role model.
> it's the only things you'd excel at, you're retarded to the point of being confused with being insane
Do you have any actual point to make?

>>510885370
wow, the sheer text, maybe you shold pull out punctuation signs that I used and reply to those separately as well, lol
muy loco!

>>510865987 (OP)

It's literally feminism. We tell young women to focus on college, career and "having fun" and that settling down with one man and having kids early in life is for uneducated redneck losers and they'll be unhappy if they do.

And conversely we discriminate against young men in college admissions and the job market so most couldn't earn enough money to support a stay at home wife and kids even if they wanted to and found a willing woman.

At best women will get married and have one kid when they're +30, then drop it off at daycare ASAP and divorce their husband when they get bored after a few years.

I'm surprised the mainstream rightwing hasn't figured this out yet. They're either incredibly stupid or controlled opposition. Probably both.

> >510885745
Heh, you identify as a nigger. Maybe you're an actual nigger. Why am I even giving you (You)s.

>>510865987 (OP)
>If this isn't solved, it will be a long decline of non-whites replacing whites and you will no longer be able to call civilization 'yours' anymore (we have already reached that point pretty much).

This has already happened, I'm 47 and today's society and culture has nothing in common with society and culture from when I was a kid in the 80s.

We are in this situation because wemon are allowed to get away with anything they want without any accountability because Men will just sit by and let their wives and GFs run the show and if any misogynist points out this obvious problem to these weakling men they just call them and incel and go back to their full time job of trying to keep their wife from leaving them. This isn't rocket science and honesty I'm getting tired of going over this all the time.

>>510865987 (OP)
All the good looking women who would make great wives and mothers are taken in high school and college the latest. Whatever remains is taken shortly after they enter the workforce. There exist very few good looking (7 and above) women that are single and have a good heart, are modest, raised in a decent family, soft spoken and pretty. The window of opportunity when they are single is very very narrow. These are the 2% of women, the highest stock of females this wonderful creation can offer. If you don't frequent their circles or the events they attend you have no chance of meeting them. Women also don't go anywhere alone, so whatever hobbies women have or events they attend it is done with their husband or boyfriend and if they are single with their groups of friends.

tldr; there simply aren't enough single good looking young white women to go around for everybody, they are rare and exist mostly in very niche places where men without social circles (loners) can't get in to

>>510865987 (OP)
We don't need more people. Just stop immigration.

>>510865987 (OP)
>Tradcucks failed
They were so confident that simping for women and beating down men would solve things. They gulped down feminist koolaid without a thought to spare. That men have to be responsible and that women are innocent victims that can do no wrong. It's sickening how much conservatives have bent over for feminists.

>Women are horrible and nobody wants to even talk about that.
Simps and women maintain the status quo by shifting blame onto men. Focusing on men obviously hasn't fixed things because men aren't the problem, women are. They cry about pedos, rape, sexual abusers as if that's why society is so fucked. Those things could vanish tomorrow and nothing about the situation would change. If people can't even address the problem and hold women accountable, then how is the problem going to be fixed?

>>510886343
>We tell young women to focus on college, career and "having fun"
Because modern fathers of daughters are so weak and spineless. They all raise their daughters like they're precious princesses that only deserve the best man. Then they end up entitled, with unrealistic standards, and egotistical. Fathers need to raise daughters right instead of spoiling them and coddling them. Spoiling them has not helped. Raise them with proper morals, to have character, and that there are certain noble standards that they themselves must strive for. That they aren't exempt from responsibility and accountability.

>>510887480
Good post. Conservatives have flipped somewhere along the line and become the upholders of feminist values but most fail to realize this.

>>510866260
It requires rhe removal of women's rights and that's not profitable. They want more workers and single renters.

>>510887923

>That pic

What a retard. He's not doing his daughter any favors. If he just gives her whatever she wants and doesn't enforce boundaries or instill discipline she's going to grow up to be spoiled brat garbage. I hate simps so much it's unreal...

>>510888205
Conservatives are literally a bigger obstacle to removing feminism than feminists are.

>>510865987 (OP)
53% of women dont know if they want to have children or dont want them at all.
we have to do something with these stupid women, men cant make babies.

when i look at zoomers i dont even see why we let them pick their mates?!
so half of women dont make any babies and a gigantic amount of them fuck random idiots.

the women have collapsed our fucking civilization. we cant import more stupid niggers, this doesnt do anything.

>>510865987 (OP)
>Why did the right wing totally FAIL at solving the issue of birthrates and marriage rates? Tradcucks failed, Trump being in office twice made no difference.
I WILL TELL YOU EXACTLY WHY. And it's probably going to be the first, last and only time you'll ever hear it.
It's because they still support big government, just like the left wingers, and government always increases it's own power at the expense of family sovereignty, no matter who's in charge, where there is big government there is destruction of the family unit.

>>510875062
Hello Jeff.

>>510865987 (OP)
>>510866399
Just say it, nothing will happen to you for saying it here, IT'S THE FAULT OF MADE UP BY KIKES WOMEN RIGHTS

>>510865987 (OP)
Also why does civilization has to continue?
It's just kikes rigging the game and getting richer and richer lmao, as a man i don't need no civ, i exist because i'm strong and independent (literally not in the meme way lel), not because civ

>>510887923
This really summarizes the Western approach to women
>give them whatever they complain about for no other reason than that they are a woman

>>510866783
hello ma'am. we can take on the birth rate crisis directly.

>>510865987 (OP)
There's an obvious solution to increase the birth rates. There needs be an incentive to produce kids, and I'm not talking about more welfare and stuff. It's more basic than that. There's a segment of the population who really wants to take care of children and only wants a little bit of affection and love in return. But everytime one brings up this solution the whole political spectrum, from left to right, and from progressive to conservative, throws a hissy fit. One side cries about muh exploitation and abuse and the other side cries of muh degeneracy.

>>510897639
Reducing taxes would instantly increase the birth rates, most of the people who have families are poor and literally can't survive having more kids, hate it all you want but it's true.

>>510866260
>uniparty
fuck off

>>510897820
Most poor people effectively don't pay taxes, so what this would do functionally is funnel more money to corporations and further lopside the economic system
What we have now is the corporations paying governments to rent their economic zone and to a lesser extent, their people

>>510898010
t. shill

>vast majority of all groups and both sexes still want kids
>OH MY GOD ITS SO OVER AHHHH
closing the thread now

>>510877609

Kill. It. With. Fire.

>>510865987 (OP)
as always commies are right unlike rightdoids

>>510901036
Birthrates are still below replacement, you colossal faggot.
>>510868941
Great post. But if you look at all the graphs and charts it is alarming how we got here. There is a direct link with the rise of feminism and the low birth rates/marriage rates. In the meantime. We are pretty much at the point now where the people who do breed will overtake us.