rationalization - /pol/ (#510876543) [Archived: 185 hours ago]

Anonymous ID: MapNPoaXSweden
7/20/2025, 1:23:45 PM No.510876543
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I've been thinking about the phenomenon rationalization.

It's said to be a negative thing. But maybe it can sometimes be good. It's connected to ego, and ego is usually said to be a bad thing, but maybe ego too can be good.

I can see how in a discussion ego and rationalization are mostly negative.

But say for example that a person is experiencing depression, anxiety etc, what you'd call "mental disorder". The usual way that society would see things is that the good and natural thing to do is to kind of "repent", just "accept responsibility", just take the L, accept as true whatever labels are put on you, whatever accusations are leveled at you etc. It is seen as immature, childish, nigger behavior etc to go "I dindu nuffin", "he started" etc.

But this is in a way to accept without question what you are told is the truth, accept it uncritically.

Even if you did actually do something, or you are actually "mentally disordered" etc, what does it actually accomplish to just accept it? Aren't we connected to the past, to the environment, to our genes, to our upbringing, culture, society etc etc, a product of things outside of ourselves? Your knowledge of things is very limited. To just accept blame is to take things at face value. What ego and rationalization does is it drives a seeking for answers. Why am I actually the way I am? Why did I actually do what I did? What's the actual cause? etc

Similar to science the "rationalizations" rather than being explanations are working hypotheses.

Without sin no suffering, without suffering no seeking what's beyond the surface.

https://youtu.be/ZEglHjd_gUQ
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Anonymous ID: HGiUgVLWCanada
7/20/2025, 1:33:48 PM No.510877018
mental illness is defined by impairment to a normal functioning life
if society is fucked up and you can't live that way without distress then you are mentally ill
it doesn't mean that something is objectively wrong with you
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Anonymous ID: MapNPoaXSweden
7/20/2025, 1:36:12 PM No.510877146
>>510877018
The topic is rationalization.
Anonymous ID: MapNPoaXSweden
7/20/2025, 1:41:08 PM No.510877382
Apparently some psychoanalysts think rationalization is a good thing.

>Later psychoanalysts are divided between a positive view of rationalization as a stepping stone on the way to maturity,[19] and a more destructive view of it as splitting feeling from thought, and so undermining the powers of reason.[20]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rationalization_(psychology)#Psychoanalysis
Anonymous ID: 3CuubGy1Sweden
7/20/2025, 1:54:33 PM No.510878055
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7/20/2025, 2:05:09 PM No.510878600
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Anonymous ID: LQI2VzudMexico
7/20/2025, 2:32:44 PM No.510880029
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>>510876543 (OP)
have a bump sven