>>510880853 (OP)Today we dont have mass poverty and bunch of war veterans wanting autocratic military like regime. Maybe Ukraine or Russia would get to it, but Ukr its too irelevant and dependant to seriously influece its neighbours.
> but muh degeneracyWithout former the movement would stay a Chud circlejerk like we have today. Not to mention population was more conservative then today and most participated in degeneracy because money (prostitution), not because they wanted to.