>”we can’t trust government!”
>”let’s make it STRONGER”
What causes these two ideologies to fall into the same brand of stupidity?

>>510916986 (OP)
>"One such tactic would be to gradually make the sites less interesting for the users"
do a flip, slidenigger

>>510917062
KYS

>>510917062
I mean they succeeded.

>>510917643
We’re still here, so no.

>>510916986 (OP)
We can’t trust the government run by corrupt billionaire pedophiles who rape children
We can trust a government run by nationalists

>>510916986 (OP)
Ancaps are equally retarded.
No one will follow your shitty NAP spook and your ancapistan would eventually turn into feudalism.

>>510916986 (OP)
This is why minarcism is the only logical system.
>noooo but what about muh monopolies
No monopoly has existed without government support
>who’ll enforce your heckin’ NAP???
The government. The NAP defines the role of the government in minarchism.

>>510916986 (OP)

Strawman. Neither nazis or us commies want our new order to be run by geriatric neoliberal pedophiles like Biden or Trump. You can't trust the government thus we want to replace the government.

What's middle school like these days!

>>510916986 (OP)
are you a kike or golem, OP?

>>510919275
>you’re not left wing???? You must support this overwhelming left wing racial group

Ok bud, that’s enough internet for tonight.

>>510916986 (OP)
>Be retarded on purpose
>Wonder why everyone thinks you're retarded
At least, I hope it's on purpose. Anyways, please kys.

>The politicians have lied to me for years
>I can't wait to vote for the next politician

It's hard to stoop to this level or retardation.

>>510919563
Take it from a Brit:
>politicians only care about politicians
>your vote means nothing
>nothing will ever change
>it’s a big club, and you aren’t in it

We need to get politicians grubby hands out of everything we can

>>510916986 (OP)
Because they're brothers. The only difference between nazism and communism is that the former is nationalist while the latter is internationalist. They are both faggot ass leftwing ideologies that belong in the dumpster of failed philosophies.

>>510918642
Yeah but if they own the trafficked children they aren't violating the NAP. The same justification goes for human meat farms as a lolbertarian.

>>510920059
Traditionally libertarianism is opposed to ownership of humans, as it is seen to violate the NAP.
>strawman harder daddy

>>510919380
I don't listen to species traitors, mate.
Go be the kike golem as you do.
I would say not to betray europe next time, but then again there will not be a next time, is all over.
Your country doom the human white species.
Thanks a lot, champ.
I'm neither a leftard or rightard.
I'm also not a national socialist, maybe I'm nationalist, but that's about it.
I'm apolitical, or are you saying there's any political group or movement that represent and defend the white species? That doesn't exist.
You're a faggot, anon.

>>510916986 (OP)
No you’ve got it wrong Anon. You can’t trust your government in a multi racial society, only in a homogenous society can you maybe trust your government

>>510916986 (OP)
Whose helicopter is that?

>>510920392
>Brazil
>White
Kek

It's an ideology, it isn't about just giving the government more power, it's about having someone in power who would adhere to NatSoc / Commie ideology and implement their respective policies

>>510919136
>Our current government is corrupt and evil so let's replace it with a different kind of corrupt and evil government!
Authoritarians are retarded.

>>510916986 (OP)
Neoliberalism had 70 years to work its satanism. We're done with that shit now.

>>510918642
>overnment run by nationalists
look at ru-a

>>510920681
that's a strawman and you know it is, come on

>>510920637
>UK
>White
kek

>>510916986 (OP)
Why waste time with two meme flags. Just use the antifa flag... it covers both.

>>510916986 (OP)
Yeah, better hand everything over to a corporate kike, that is working like charm in America.

>>510920681
Ongezellig spotted!!!!!!!

Also based and trve pilled

>>510920059
How the fuck are you this retarded?

>>510920809
0.83% of your country is native to the land.
81.7% of the UK is white.

But good job on finding one of the 18.3%!

>>510920681
TRVKE

>>510916986 (OP)
People just want to be the one in power. There is no greater goal then that. EVERY attempt to sell their politics as any kind of "higher" or "principled" position is a lie they tell you to sway you to their side. Nobody actually cares about being better.

Welcome to adulthood, don't forget to have children.

>>510916986 (OP)
I just don't trust governments when it's nothing but jews or jew-influenced people (so commies).

we've tried to create a free state with abundant civil liberties for men, women, and businesses and it resulted in everyone becoming fat and retarded. it's called America.

>>510920806
You're going to call >>510920681 a strawman, and ignore >>510920059?
You can't be for real.

>>510921217
yeah that's a strawman too, I'm not denying that. he already got called out for it by the time i joined this thread

>>510921217
Difference is that libertarianism has an answer for the strawman against them.

Statists can only cry about the accurate issue raised by>>510920681

>>510916986 (OP)
It's easier to focus on the external than focus on yourself, so many people fall into the trap of letting power-hungry grifters tell them that x, y, and z are the problems in their lives, and if you just give them total power, they'll take care of x, y, and z, and life will be so much better. It's always bullshit, because people/groups with absolute power always abuse it.

>>510921097
my country was not build by native, dumbass.
I'm whiter than you'll ever be.
You lost your white card on the WWII.
Now go be gang rape by the rottenchilds and your kike-shitskin zelites and don't forget to get your license to be stab, it can come in handy.

>>510921324
they don't seem to have an answer for more important questions though, libertarians are fractured on issues like abortion, incest, hard drug use and corporate slavery. dont get me wrong, i'm a statist now but i literally have a gadsden flag tattoo on my shoulder from when i was a younger man and was all about libertarianism but i've done a political 180

>>510916986 (OP)
We cant trust the government so lets put people in charge who we can trust, ancap retards pretend like govt itself is always a negative thing which is childish

>>510921471
>I'm whiter than you'll ever be.
Picrel is you

this is fun

>>510916986 (OP)
Humans are retards. They do not want to use brain power unless absolutely necessary, so this results in most to all people deferring to leaders. Especially leaders that have charisma and act like they know what is going on.

You've probably seen this phenomenon in public school where kids don't want to do the group project. And what happens? Who ever steps up to do the work gets saddled with the bulk of the project. That person essentially earns the grade for the group. Now translate that to a nation: a bunch of plebs who don't want to run shit, and a few smart beans who don't want shit to collapse trying to save it all. That's how you get politicians. And this dynamic is how power transfers from dumb plebs into politician hands. At scale you also get the whole popularity contest shit playing into it as well, so we further concentrate into charisma over intelligence. Which results in autocrats, warlords, and dictators coming to power for most nations.

>>510921520
Sure, there’s internal divisions. It mostly depends on whether you’re talking about minarchism or ancap, and who is defined as a person.
>abortion
Depends on if an unborn child is a person
>incest
Libertarians generally have no problem unless it’s a coercive relationship/rape
>hard drug use
Pretty much every libertarian thinks this should be legalised
>corporate slavery
Owning people is traditionally seen as an NAP violation. In a hoppean libertarian society, there would be enough labour competition that these contracts would be unworkable though.

>>510921587
No your pic is from your father don't ditch on him now! It's know that you ended slavery so you could replace your population with niggers.

>>510917456
>no argument
Run away, kike

>we need more private enterprise with no government control!
>*Brings in 10 million jeets and spics into the society every 4 years.*

LOLBERTS KEEP LOSING LMAO
CAN'T WAIT TO ROUND UP YOU AND YOUR FAMILY AND FUCKING KILL YOU TRAITOR SONS OF BITCHES

>>510916986 (OP)

>>510921974
Mate I’m literally Welsh. But sure, show a bunch of pictures of non native inhabitants of the UK.

Here’s a picture of a native Brazilian. I imagine you’re a Portuguese or a slave like most a Brazil?

>>510916986 (OP)
Fascists are just communists who realized communism doesn't work but kept being communists

>>510922309
Keep coping memeflag pajeet. You aren't even human, you're a shit-eating wretch that shouldn't even exist.

TOTAL
LOLBERT
DEATH
And it could easily happen too, and nobody would get in our way becase lolbertarians are the biggest fucking pussies on the planet.

>>510917456
But call him a Kike and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: "I've been found out.”

>>510922434
>>510922640
>statist
>no argument, just ad hominem and death threats
Checks out.

BTW, wanting your God King to tell you what to do is a submissive trait.

>>510922797
You're already being run by fucking communists, dumb fuck.
AND YOU FUCKING VOTED THEM IN, TOO!
Get under my boot, bitch. You quite literally WON'T DO SHIT, that's my fucking "argument", keep proving it.

>>510922434
Oh so that's how you're playing this game?
Considering you're american, I bet you're darker than I am.

>>510921579
>people in charge who we can trust
How will you find these people?

>>510922956
>You're already being run by communists
Yep. That’s why inflation, immigration, interest rates are up, and wages down.
>YOU VOTED THEM IN, TOO!
I didn’t give starmer a single vote. And I never will.
>Get under my boot
Nice argument. Remind me of how your government is going on the “most transparent admin” thing. Got the files yet?

I’m going to continue advocating and agitating for a diminished state. But sure, be a little sub for your favourite politicians. I’m sure that’s more effective.

>>510923006
Says the fucking PAJEET hiding behind a MEMEFLAG because "mr. crypto-worshipping coin-stacking lolbert fuckwit" is TOO POOR AND STUPID to get a VPN.
Please, stop fucking embarrassing yourselves already. You put your money on Jeetlon Shit-Musk and you LOST. Not only that, I'm going to laugh when the "fascists" drag you out of your mommy's basement and execute you in the street like a dog. Or better yet, fly over to your shithole country and firebomb your shill call center.

>>510923389
At least the troll makes statists look bad

>>510923365
Yes you did retard. You participated in the system, and you got exactly what you asked for. That's your "lolbert dream", getting pounded up the ass by people who aren't afraid to wield power because you're too ineffectual, stupid, and repulsive to ever be given the keys to the kingdom.

>>510922056
That stupid anon had no argument and neither do you.

>>510916986 (OP)
If you value safety and order over liberty then you are a coward. Simple as.
Authoritarianism is for fools and mental weaklings.

>>510923477
>yay! i convinced myself once again that i don't have to do anything but sit around complaining! lolberts win! *still gets raped by the government*
>>510923584
My argument is that you don't deserve to exist. Prove your worth or get in the salt mine.

>>510920319
Now you are just making the ideology internally inconsistent by applying social norms that are external to that ideology to make it more appealing. This is why in practice libertarianism is just used as a post hoc justification for a policy like the legalization of drugs.

>>510923562
>You participated in the system
I didn’t vote, and I certainly didn’t vote for l*bour. So I didn’t participate in the system ya wally.
>you got exactly what you asked for
I got a minarchist party that supports deregulation, decriminalisation, and proper immigration controls??? And where is this party?
>That's your "lolbert dream"
Not how quotes work. And in what world is the socialist party taking power a good thing for libertarians?
>you're too ineffectual, stupid, and repulsive to ever be given the keys to the kingdom
I agree. So is every politican in Downing Street. Better to reduce their power then, eh?

>>510923731
>My argument is that you don't deserve to exist
And you do?

>>510917643
>>510917062
>>510916986 (OP)
maybe im just retarded but I like these type of topics.

>>510923790
No. Read it again.

>The NAP defines what should be illegal
>Ownership of humans is an infringement on their ability to consent (the free part of free market)
>Therefore slavery is aggression
>Therefore it should be illegal

You can disagree, that’s fine. But the majority of libertarians believe the above.

>>510916986 (OP)
Nazis don't say you can't trust government, tho. Jewish governments, yes.

>>510923626
>if you want a government that works to achieve your goals you're weak!
>t. does literally nothing and sits there complaining all day
Elect me and I'll pass a bill that gives free diapers and baby wipes to lolberts, they clearly need them.
>>510923872
>>you're too ineffectual, stupid, and repulsive to ever be given the keys to the kingdom
>I agree.
Lolberts not shooting themselves in the foot challenge: impossible. Or in your case, stabbing themselves in the foot, at least until they take your knives too.

Lolberts are no different than petulant children whining and crying that mommy makes them brush their teeth, get dressed and go to school instead of letting them play video games all day.
About as effective, too.

>>510924087
Ok bud. What do YOU think libs should do other than advocate for change and participate in democracy like every other mainstream political group in western society?
>Lolberts not shooting themselves in the foot challenge: impossible
I see you can’t comprehend someone being ideologically consistent?
All dictators are bad. I shouldn’t be a dictator, you CERTAINLY shouldn’t. No one should. Let people make their own dumb choices, rather than making dumb ones for them

Statists and understanding consent. Seriously man.

>until they take your knives too.
Already have. Unlike you I engage in political activism to try and change that, rather than just drooling on my self and clapping on “daddy politician”.

Even just not actively supporting the commies is better than what you do.

REMINDER: The vast majority of lolberts in *current year* are pajeets and other turd-worlders that want billionaires to replace YOU with infinity shitskins, because it's somehow "better" for their bottom line.
>i may be a slave to *insert corporation here* but at least it's not the GUBBERMINT holding the whip!

Lolberts look at the old company towns where they work 12 hours a day 6 days a week, their money is useless outside of it, and their livelihoods are dictated by some rich faggot jew behind his cushy mahogany desk, and think "I WISH WE HAD THAT FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTRY!"

>>510924921
>>510924603
>still no argument

>>510925525
Elon should reward you with some gold shackles, since you're such a good little slave.
Another reminder:
>private corporations (run by jews, of course) supported slavery
>the government ended slavery
Why do lolberts support slavery and child trafficking?

>>510925747
>the government ended slavery
Said government tolerated slavery until it became politically convenient to abandon

>>510926699
The only government in America that actively supported slavery was the CSA, which was also the first to elect a jewish congressman BTW.
Slavery and kikery, the two pillars of lolbert ideology. Yet they'll call you a "bootlicker" for opposing them... The irony!

The lolbert fantasy is Musk and Bezos owning 99% of the country, 100 million+ jeet slaves running around, and open prostitution on every street corner. But at least the "road pirates" aren't pulling you over to give you a ticket for the broken taillights on your pedovan!

>>510927487
>still ranting about strawmen
Sad

>>510916986 (OP)
>we can't trust the government
>let's turn it into a megacorporation that answers to nobody!

>>510922207
No, I'm german-brazilian (0 shitskin blood), so whiter than you'll ever be bong-nigger.
Some portuguese blood, alas better than having fisherman peasant island control by kikes and father of marxism.
unironically my ancestors replace the few indios that habitat the land but we build civilization, meanwhile you are giving your civilization away for free to literal african niggers and pakis.
We are not the same bong, you've no idea the difficult a white person has growing up in south america on a globohomo-kike so call third world country (term literally made by kikes).
You are a shelter faggots that gave all your forefathers conquest away, at least the few things that were clownish.
Again I'll remind you that it was your country that fought for niggers to be free everywhere and treated as humans, and you better never forget.
It was your country that spawn marxism and it was your country that spawn pissrael.

>>510928247
You are not even human.

>>510924042
Not being able to sell your body, taken to its logical conclusion, means that you can literally consent to nothing including any form of work. Not being able to 'sell' the autonomous rights to your body quickly escalates to insanity like not being able to consent to medical procedures. What is the difference between having your gallbladder removed for medical reasons and having it removed because somebody wants to buy it and eat it? Libertarians are just one or two decades worth of propagandizing removed from human meat farms and pedophile amusement parks, as has been proven by their shift to supporting the full LGBT agenda.

>>510929994
They're already fully on-board with total demographic replacement as long as it helps "duh GDP"

>>510916986 (OP)

>>510916986 (OP)
It's an ego thing on both ends. Both sides think that if they get the exclusive right to violent coercion that they'll be the ones to do good with it and fix the perceived corruption in the world. But the reality is that the act of violent coercion breeds the corruption regardless because its nature is win/lose, and there's no man alive who can wield it with benevolence.

>>510922188
this
they ban vintage anti ancap memes on this board btw
free speech isn't free

I'm thinkin
yids fuck kids