Reality of Christian Identity by Eugen Fischer - /pol/ (#510917897) [Archived: 198 hours ago]

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7/20/2025, 11:42:34 PM No.510917897
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The book Racial Origin and Earliest Racial History of the Hebrews by Eugen Fischer (translated by Charles E. Weber) presents a detailed anthropological analysis of the racial composition of the ancient Hebrews, drawing from racial biology, genetics, archaeology, and historical linguistics. Fischer argues that the Hebrews emerged from a mixture of several racial strains, primarily the Orientalid (Arabian-Semitic), Near Eastern (Armenoid), and Mediterranean races, with minor Nordic and possible Negroid influences.

Does This Book Support or Debunk Christian Identity Beliefs?

Fischer’s work explicitly contradicts the pseudohistorical claims of Christian Identity and similar white nationalist theories, which argue:

That the ancient Hebrews were a “white” Nordic or Aryan people.
That modern Jews are racially distinct from the Hebrews of the Bible.

Fischer’s conclusions dismantle these claims:

1. The Hebrews Were Not “White” in the Nordic Sense
The dominant racial element in the Hebrews was the Orientalid race (akin to modern Arabs), characterized by dark hair, dark eyes, and a hooked or convex nose.
The Near Eastern (Armenoid) race contributed a short-skulled, broad-faced, and convex-nosed physical type.
Mediterranean admixture (long-faced, narrow-nosed) was also present.
Nordic influence was minor and limited to ruling elites (e.g., Hittites, Amurites, possibly Philistines). Fischer explicitly states:
> “The fact that the Nordic element was repeatedly mentioned in this presentation must not give the impression that this admixture was especially large!”
He adds that Nordic traits were quickly diluted due to climatic unsuitability.
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Anonymous ID: rqbnpjiG
7/20/2025, 11:42:59 PM No.510917918
>>510917897 (OP)
2. Modern Jews Descend from the Biblical Hebrews
Fischer traces Jewish racial continuity from ancient times, emphasizing that while later Diaspora Jews absorbed some European and other influences, their core racial composition remained Orientalid-Armenoid-Mediterranean, aligning them with Near Eastern populations.
He dismisses claims of a radical racial break:
> “The Jewish ethnic group has undergone this fusion during its long prehistory and history… the characteristics of the Jewish intellect, of the Jewish psyche and of the Jewish body.”

3. Christian Identity’s “Two Seedline” Theory is Biologically Absurd
Christian Identity claims that modern Jews are “Khazars” or “Edomites” unrelated to biblical Hebrews. Fischer’s analysis shows:
The Hebrews were always a mixed Semitic people, closely related to Arabs, Assyrians, and Canaanites.
There is no evidence of a total racial replacement.
The Khazar hypothesis (often misused by white nationalists) is irrelevant here—Fischer’s study focuses on Bronze/Iron Age racial origins, not medieval Khazaria.

Conclusion: Fischer’s Work Debunks Christian Identity Myths
Fischer’s racial anthropology directly refutes the core claims of Christian Identity and similar movements. His evidence shows:

The Hebrews were not Nordic or white in the modern racialist sense.
They were Semitic, closely related to Arabs and other Near Eastern groups.
Modern Jews retain detectable ancestral ties to the ancient Hebrews.

Thus, Fischer’s scholarship aligns with mainstream historical and genetic research, which rejects the fringe racial myths of Christian Identity.
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Anonymous ID: rqbnpjiG
7/20/2025, 11:43:40 PM No.510917965
>>510917918
>Source
https://archive.org/details/fischer-eugen-racial-origin-of-the-jews/
Anonymous ID: sU6Z9KQbUnited States
7/20/2025, 11:55:04 PM No.510918757
Who cares. If someone seriously think that God favors some specific race, then that person is fucked up in the head. You have ZERO control over your race in this world, so if God is really like that, then he can fuck off, and anyone who would worship a God like that should be decapitated with a shovel.
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Anonymous ID: UipMk8RXIsrael
7/20/2025, 11:58:21 PM No.510919016
>>510918757
>God favors some specific race
is this something that christian identity subscribe to?
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Anonymous ID: 8x2AXDMACanada
7/21/2025, 12:21:32 AM No.510920740
>>510919016
I think its more specific to you.
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Anonymous ID: UipMk8RXIsrael
7/21/2025, 12:33:23 AM No.510921578
>>510920740
are you knowledgeable on the subject?
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Anonymous ID: yYjvhU94Canada
7/21/2025, 12:59:35 AM No.510923457
>>510921578
Christian identity is not tied to nationality or race. Jesus' new covenant is for all mankind.
This makes many people very uncomfortable, ironically a lot of Christians.
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Anonymous ID: yYjvhU94Canada
7/21/2025, 1:02:34 AM No.510923649
>>510923457
Sorry, I didn't realize we are talking about Christian Identity, with a capital I.
I don't know what they think, and I don't care.
Anonymous ID: Qmc8n6zu
7/21/2025, 1:17:42 AM No.510924606
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>>510917897 (OP)
Jesus was a shit-skinned Jew with mutilated genitals who equated Goyim to dogs and subverted the Roman Empire. His child-mutilating mother was a lying Jewess who cheated on her old Jewish cuckold of a husband, and she said her product of infidelity was a miraculous child of God to dupe superstitious Jewish idiots so they will not stone her to death for committing adultery.
Anonymous ID: a/reMneMUnited States
7/21/2025, 1:47:24 AM No.510926577
>>510917897 (OP)
Hebrew were the children of Eber descendants of Adam
all but one of them eventually had corrupted flesh
Enoch was the last pure blood on earth
Enoch talked with God
God was angry, and wanted to destroy the world and start over.
Enoch sued God, pleading for mankind to have another chance. A settlement was reached. God agreed to let Enoch's grandson Noah, and his family live.
Aside from the 8 aboard the ark
all hebrews died.
Noah and his eldest son Japheth were Hebrews
Noah's second wife Naamah had passed away before the ark, bur she was the mother of Shem. Naamah was daughter of Lamech, sister of Tubal-Cain, she was a descendant of Cain, so Shem is as well. Noah took another bride, and she bore Noah's youngest named Ham. Adam, Enoch, Noah, and Ham all worshiped God, but Naamah and her son Shem worshiped a god, Noah does not name the god in Genesis, he only refers to it as "the god of Shem" very distinct from Noah's God . Noah loved Shem despite his choosing to worship a different god. Noah even asked God to bless the god of Shem leaving no confusion about it.
In the Shemite books after the flood when they say God or Lord they mean the god of Shem

After the Flood Noah gave Europe to Japheth he founded Tartarya and is the father of all Aryans.
Noah gave Africa to his son HAM
Ham founded Egypt, The first God of Egypt was the God of Noah and Adam


Noah gave Asia to Shem to Abram founded many nations China, India, the middle east all Shemites India is Esau/ Edom brother of Jacob
Anonymous ID: a/reMneMUnited States
7/21/2025, 1:57:22 AM No.510927219
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Anonymous ID: a/reMneMUnited States
7/21/2025, 2:07:19 AM No.510927834
At Genesis and Genetics, we have examined Y-chromosome genomes searching for Noah and his three sons, Ham, Japheth, and Shem. They were easy to find. According to our analysis, if you have the rs17306671 Y-chromosome mutation nucleotide A you are from Shem. If you have the rs9786139 Y-chromosome mutation nucleotide A you are from Ham. If you have the rs3900 Y-chromosome mutation nucleotide G you are from Japheth. If you are a woman, you will have to check your father’s y-chromosome. Women don’t have the y-chromosome.
Anonymous ID: a/reMneMUnited States
7/21/2025, 2:28:38 AM No.510929230
Moses was an Egyptian a descendant of HAM not Shem. God spoke to Moses and told him to lead the Jews back to Asia, and back to the true God.