Honestly, I forgive her. M/f is unforgivable and should be met with woodchippers, but F/f just isn't the same thing, full stop. I won't pretend it isn't a double standard, it is, but I also won't pretend it's anything other than what it is, nature, the way things are. If you read what little court testimony we have access to, all she really did was perform oral sex on older teen girls, several of which asked her to do it again by their own admission. Unironically what's the harm? The whole thing sounds consensual.

>>510929254 (OP)
god i wish i were a teen girls getting lewd with maxwell

Breaking news: woman with mans haircut likes to have sex with girls. Everybody is shocked.

>>510929254 (OP)
>giving this demon a pussy pass

>>510929412
Understandable.

>>510929521
What did she really do, make somebody feel good who was literally asking for it? Come on.

>>510929412
Well you can’t be a teen but there’s nothing stopping you from being a girl.

>>510929484
It's fine

>>510929254 (OP)
>Honestly, I forgive her.
Why the fuck would you did she ask for your forgiveness? Does God forgive me if I don't repent of my wrong and ask?
So what the fuck is wrong with you?
You're soft, and allow evil to perpetrate in the world.

>>510929254 (OP)
She'll probably never see what she did as anything other than just business.

How the fuck are her and Les Wexner still alive?

>>510929254 (OP)

>>510929254 (OP)
She literally facilitated child sex trafficking you disgusting shill. We all know why you’re trying to soften the blow.

>>510929254 (OP)
Female pedophiles are orders of magnitude worse than male ones, and are almost always the ones actually in charge.
The only reason this isn't absolutely common knowledge is because too many men in law enforcement are retarded dipshits that are led by the nose by their most basic emotions and instincts.

Maxwell is personally responsible for rape, murder, and enslavement of children. A lieutenant of a global crime cartel interested in political blackmail, corruption, and numerous flagrant human rights abuses.
In short, this person is an enemy of the entire world. Typical jew.

Breaking her on the wheel followed by dismemberment and flaying, until dead, would almost be too lenient of a punishment.

>>510932155
I don't think it's really evil, that's just hysterics from meme shitters here. She ate out a seventeen year old, which was apparently so traumatic that the seventeen year old testified in court that she asked her to do it again. Not exactly Lord Voldemort stuff here.

It's creepy shit that belongs in National Geographic documentaries on African culture.

>>510932476
There's no real evidence that she did. This is from the limited testimony we do have:
>Other encounters involved sex toys or turned into oral sex "orgies" with other young women and Maxwell, she added.
>On cross-examination, defense lawyer Laura Menninger sought to grill the witness on why she waited 20 years to report the alleged abuse by Maxwell. Menninger also asked if it was true she had previously spoken to her siblings and others close to her about Epstein's behavior, but left Maxwell out of the earlier accounts.
>"You never mentioned Ghislaine Maxwell?" the lawyer asked.
>"I don't know," the witness responded, adding she only remembered being uncomfortable with going into all the details.

So all we really have is Ghislaine occasionally eating out or being eaten out by a few teenaged girls, or using vibrators on them, at their own behest. This occurred repeatedly because the alleged 'victims' literally came back for more, repeatedly. Is this untoward or taboo? Sure. Is it 'evil' or 'trafficking' or whatever else? No, that's people exaggerating and getting carried away. If you forget the memes and all the bullshit here and literally just look at the case and what we know about it - not speculate or think, know - the reality is a heck of a lot softer than you probably think. I'm not saying it's the best thing to do, but what she did really wasn't even that harmful, and people act like she's a killer.

It's definitely not a hoax:

Epstein is connected to Israel, this is why Trump is covering it up. He doesn't want to risk the political fallout for Israel when people realize all of Epstein's clients were blackmailed and used as Israeli assets (including Trump himself).

"The most concrete link is his relationship with former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak. Epstein and Barak met numerous times between 2013 and 2017, with Barak visiting Epstein’s properties in Florida and New York approximately 30 times, including a 2014 private flight in Florida. Barak received $2.3 million from an Epstein-associated foundation between 2004 and 2006, and Epstein invested $1 million in a limited partnership established by Barak in 2015.

Another connection stems from Epstein’s ties to Ghislaine Maxwell, whose father, Robert Maxwell, was a British media mogul alleged to have had links to the Israeli intelligence agency Mossad. Some sources, including former Israeli intelligence officer Ari Ben-Menashe, have claimed Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell ran a “honey-trap” operation for Mossad to blackmail influential figures. A lawsuit by a woman identified as Jane Doe 200 alleged Epstein boasted of being a Mossad agent, but this remains unconfirmed.

Epstein was also associated with the Wexner Foundation, which supports Jewish leadership and has ties to Israel. His financial backer, Leslie Wexner, was a member of the “Mega Group,” a collection of Jewish philanthropists, which some, like former NSA counterspy John Schindler, have speculated was linked to Israeli intelligence operations, though no hard evidence supports this. Epstein reportedly invested in an Israeli startup, Reporty Homeland Security (later rebranded as Carbyne), connected to Israel’s defense industry, further fueling speculation."

Epstein is a jew who raped white girls and got other guys to rape white girls so he could blackmail them and use them as Israeli assets.

>>510933144
Uh huh, yeah I'm really going to believe what the official stance of the jewish media, jew-occupied government, and jewish academia have to say about the jewish satanic pedophile child murder trafficking rings.
Sorry, I'm just not going to believe the information supplied by an enemy faction.

>>510929254 (OP)
It's probably the best oral sex these girls will ever have. The real trauma comes from knowing they'll never have it so good again unless they go full-on lesbian.

>>510933395
It's not really a 'stance' it's testimony from the supposed victims, this is what they say.

>>510933593
Agreed. I highly doubt it was 'traumatic' or whatever else they're clout chasing with it now.

>>510929254 (OP)
It’s not about the sex, it’s about the blackmail

>>510933799
The ones that they raped and murdered after kidnapping them can't offer a testimony, which I think is a little more important than the kosher trickle of information that you restrict your gaze to.

>>510933923
There's no evidence she did any of that though. It's just this circular thing where you say she did, and when presented with the total absence of evidence you pretend like that can only mean she did it.

>>510933395
Remember that victims are always under extreme pressure, both from the legal system, but also from the perpetrators - especially at such a level where high political figures are involved.
Ghislaine probably played the "good cop" role, to gain trust through literal Stockholm Syndrome, while Epstein played the bad cop role, threatening the victims that if they talk about it, they and their families are going to be hurt.
When you're a literal nobody kid at the mercy of some imposing criminal figures that groom and pass you around for years, this fucks your psyche up. Very often for good. It's clear Epstein was made an example of, perhaps people at the top got a wind of him willing to testify and join the program hiding the important witnesses.

>>510934181
But they did testify, and nothing they said was really that bad.

>>510934463
I would do the same. I'm not going basically alone against people who can make you have "an accident" at any point.

>>510934165
No, you're wrong.
I've been observing these people and their associates for decades. They hide their tracks and either threaten or murder anyone that stands against them too stubbornly.
Your entire position is merely an appeal to authority which I am going to throw into the trash.
You're an ignorant person that holds very little information on this topic, and instead of thinking you are seeking permission to think.

dykes are spawn of satan and belong in hell along with faggot op

>>510934657
That doesn't make any sense, they've already gone against them by testifying, Ghislaine is doing natural life over it, I don't think testifying but saying it was basically consensual and they wanted Ghislaine to eat them out is 'playing it safe', if it was as you say they'd just decline to testify to begin with.

>>510934685
You're just going in circles, "its true because I say so and the lack of evidence proves it", senseless.

1. It is a Troon
2. he looked for Boys they raped and Transit to transgenders then

>>510929254 (OP)
It can never get out that basic human urges are a normal thing.

>>510934806
Uh huh, You're a retarded dipshit.
I know what these people do, and they're just the tip of the iceberg. They've been at it for decades and there are many more like them.
You would know this too if you weren't a tourist to this website.

"When a man already knows the truth, how can you convince him otherwise?"

>>510933144
She literally crossed state lines!

>>510935188
>I know what these people do
lol, no you don't, you just read memes and take them for fact, when you see court testimony from actual living witnesses TELLING YOU WHAT THEY DO, you...ignore it, dismiss it, etc.

Ghislaine ate out some teenaged high school girls, and a few of them asked to eat her out, and they got some cool purses and stuff out of it, then years later they got some clout by saying it was abusive in some way even though they went back and back and back of their own accord

thats the reality. I'm not going to act like she's satan because she licked a pussy two years before she was supposed to. It's not the best thing to be doing, but you people act like she killed someone.

>>510929254 (OP)
>Honestly, I forgive her.
I don't
Rest in Piss you kike hag
Hope you die in prison

>>510935357
It would have been unironically better if she did kill someone, that's only a 4 year sentence with probation.

>>510935357
What part of "I have been observing them for DECADES" mean to you?
WOAWWWWW testimony that's kosher?
These people kill witnesses and law enforcement lets it happen because they're bought in the ways that matter.
The Marc Dutroux case proved this beyond a doubt.
You're a moron that doesn't think and merely has found ways to submit to authority in a manner which superficially resembles thinking.

You expect this gigantic edifice of criminal corruption to act "just so" and "follow the rules", since you're an absolute pathetic slave to authority and have fully internalized the "don't believe your eyes and ears, trust the party," Orwellian dogshit you feckless people should know better than to act that way, but you do.

She's a lieutenant for a international blackmail pedophile trafficking ring, intimately tied to Israel through Mossad as part of their program to subjugate the entire world under their evil yoke.
Maxwell and other pedos like Podesta are cut from the same cloth.
Not only has she been the purveyor of sex slavery, she's also responsible for the murders and abuse of all the people whom she trafficked.

Oh, need I also remind you that this entire thing is specifically targeted as an anti-White ethnic hatred by the jews (like Maxwell) that staff this whole thing.
Deliberately targeting White American children and Europeans to sate the appetitive of this bloodthirsty jewish mafia.

In other words, these are the people primarily responsible for fucking up the entire world in every single possible way you can think of, since they transform their blackmail to international political heft and institutionalized corruption which effects every real decision that affects the world.

It's crazy. This woman is apparently in prison because of a hoax.

>>510935850
>I have been observing them for DECADES
This probably isn't true, and it's clear your idea of observation is just reading memes and taking them for fact. The alleged victims themselves say that they ate out Ghislaine and she ate them out and then they returned and asked for it again. Those are the facts. You can feel some kind of way about that and whether it's right or wrong and by how much, but that's what happened and acting like she's irredeemably evil for sticking a vibrator into a sixteen year old that was literally ASKING HER TO DO IT is insane

>>510935984
No, you're lying by omission, and you've already decided to strawman my entire position as "memes" when much of this is outright public knowledge, or can be inferred from things that happen but authorities try to hide.
This sort of feigned ignorance you express is also typical interference run of those who knowingly protect these monsters.

What you said are not the facts, what you said is an incomplete narrative seeded by kosher sources trying to "reframe" (lie) about this person into anything but what they are: A monstrous sex trafficking pedophile evil jew who should be fed, feet-first, into a woodchipper alongside all of her colleagues and customers.

I'll just be blunt. There is no way you can convince me of anything you're trying to say. You're simply out of your league here.
I know for a fact you are either lying, or you're another stupid midwit that has slunk their way into this place and think they are amongst good company.

>>510936523
>much of this is outright public knowledge
It isn't, it's just repeated memes. That isn't a strawman, it's what it is. What's public knowledge is the testimony given by alleged victims, who admit they literally sought to perform oral sex on Ghislaine repeatedly because they felt cool and they got clothes and stuff. People here take that and turn it into some giant conspiracy meme.

>>510936648
Sorry faggot, you're wrong and making excuses for your own stupid ignorance.

>>510936718
What I'm saying is factually correct, supported by the available facts. What you're doing is just closing your eyes and chanting "you're wrong" like a mantra.

>>510929412
>god i wish i were a teen girls getting lewd with maxwell
Thats rape anon.

>>510937403
Nuh uh.
You've entered this topic like a dipshit, why do you expect any respect whatsoever?

I've already explained why the authorities which you have lionized to a gold standard should not be listened to.
Sure the piece of information you clutch might be "official", but the authorities, institutions, and people which have supplied that fragment of information are not to be trusted.
Authority does not constitute "fact", and you have been given a wholly incomplete version of the events and think it's ironclad.
If you remain wholly ignorant to the deep connections Maxwell has with the pedophiles rings through her powerful connections and her own project, TerraMar, which is merely a front for the sort of pedo sex trafficking typical for those big customers with private islands, yachts, etc.

Care to explain why she and Epstein were enjoying a photograph at the private cottage of the Queen of England?
The royals and peerage are some of the most reliable clients of her and her ilk.
I also haven't forgotten how her father was a jewish Mossad intelligence asset despite being a British national, and is almost solely responsible for the total degradation of peer-reviewed scientific journals with his Pergamon Press scheme.

As it is, I no longer think you are pursuing this conversation in good faith and interacting with you further is a waste of time.
Death to all jews, pedophiles, and shabbos goy worldwide who have created such a demonic hellscape world where dipshits like this person I am replying to can still exist in confident stupidity.

>>510929254 (OP)
Simps are so fucking pathetic. Rope ASAP

>>510937542
Not how they describe it, they came back for seconds, and thirds

>>510938187
>Not how they describe it, they came back for seconds, and thirds
That's fair, but if they throw the book at men for sex crimes, then women ought to get the same. Otherwise there is a clear double standard and that's discrimination. What good is a justice system and the rule of law if it allows injustice?

>>510938532
>there is a clear double standard
It is a double standard, but I would argue it's nature's double standard, men and women simply aren't the same and their actions aren't in the same light. An older woman teaching a young teen is different from an older man preying on a young teen, it is what it is. This push to always consider men and women equal in all things is unnatural.

>>510938532
Or we could collectively as a society just stop this purity bullshit and accept that people want to go back to bonking kids since the entire Western hemisphere looks at hentai porn even on mainstream sites.

>>510938620
>An older woman teaching a young teen is different from an older man preying on a young teen, it is what it is.
No. its the same thing. Women aren't held accountable and that is the problem with society. Feminism is the root problem we have. If women want equal share with men at the table, then they need to be held to the same standard. Otherwise, the system favors women over men. Underage sex is either harmful to both genders equally or it isn't.

>>510938686
True. See it here all the time.

>>510938686
>Or we could collectively as a society just stop this purity bullshit and accept that people want to go back to bonking kids since the entire Western hemisphere looks at hentai porn even on mainstream sites.
I agree, much of the pedo thing is virtue signalling and just a reason to bully others.

>>510929254 (OP)
She was an Elitist and called the white girls they procured for sex (underaged) Poor white trash Goyums.
They wanted to eat in one of the country clubs and were told "They wont serve non jews" and then G-Max continued to put them down saying "Who do you think you are. You're not worthy of this country club"

or some shit. even after she invited them there were off limit areas only for Jewish people.

She's a cunt.

>>510939341
I don't know that it happened, but if it did I'm not going to condemn her as satan for not wanting a sixteen year old in the country club. It's douchebag behavior but not death row behavior.

>>510929254 (OP)
Wait, did she diddle girls too? She's just like Sapphos

>>510942246
most testimony had her either performing orally or being performed on by the girls regularly, including at the girl's request