Take that, Putler

>>510997140 (OP)
>If you kill yourself, you win.
t. Kikes to EU leaders

>Europe's petrochemical industry is unravelling under a wave of plant closures after years of losses and a rapid expansion of global capacity led by China.

>High production costs and ageing plants have left European producers struggling, making the region increasingly dependent on imports of primary chemicals such as ethylene and propylene, the building blocks for plastics, pharmaceuticals and countless industrial goods.

>A wave of closures and disposals is reshaping the global petrochemical sector as companies around the world rethink their exposure to markets as they adjust to capacity build-up in China and higher costs in Europe.

>Up to 40% of the EU's ethylene capacity — which totals 24.5 million metric tons — is at high or medium risk of closure

>North America's ethylene capacity will grow to 58 million metric tons by 2030 from 54 million currently

>China, meanwhile, will add 6.5% to its ethylene capacity every year between 2025 and 2030, when it will produce nearly 87 million metric tons of ethylene annually

https://archive.ph/https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/europes-chemical-industry-seeks-lifeboat-stay-business-2025-07-21/
https://archive.ph/https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/closures-disposals-reshaping-global-petrochemical-sector-2025-07-21/

>>510997140 (OP)
>by roastie, ravioli, jeet and jeet numba 2
seems legit

>>510997140 (OP)
>>510997427

Another industry regulated out of existence

>>510997427
Okay uhh so basically
>Europe's plastic industry is struggling because it can't compete with China, who builds factories using debt it doesn't repay and staffs it with slave labour
Big deal?

>>510997957
Petrochemical industry in America and the Middle East can compete just fine, because the main reason for uncompetitiveness is energy and feedstock costs
https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/appec-chinas-ethylene-output-costs-1200-1300t-lower-than-europe-shenghong-2022-09-28/

Slave labor might work for making t-shirts. It doesn't really work for the chemical industry

If not paying debts is a magic trick that makes a trillion dollar industry operate cheaper, then maybe Europe should try that (it doesn't work)

>>510997720
>>510997957
Petrochemical industry in America and the Middle East can compete just fine, because a major reason for uncompetitiveness is energy and feedstock costs
https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/appec-chinas-ethylene-output-costs-1200-1300t-lower-than-europe-shenghong-2022-09-28/

Slave labor might work for making t-shirts. It doesn't really work for the chemical industry

If not paying debts is a magic trick that makes a trillion dollar industry operate cheaper, then maybe Europe should try that (it doesn't work)

>>510997957
All the ethane and propane that goes into China's crackers comes from the US too. It's why Xi had to cuck on reciprocal tarrifs kek.

>>510997140 (OP)
its almost like chinese propaganda works

>>510997720
Not even, Its all energy prices. They're not going out of business because they aren't allowed to poison the locals by dumping chemicals. In modern industry energy prices are the main factor.

>>510998814
The value of ethane export controls as leverage is arguably overblown. Only about 8-10% of China's ethylene output is from ethane feedstock, and those of China's crackers that run on ethane are flexible and can use naphta or LPG just as well. Naphta is more expensive than ethane but they don't have to shut down if they can't get ethane.

Meanwhile, there's not really nowhere else ready to absorb all that American ethane

US dominates export of ethane because they are the only ones who have invested heavily in ethane export infrastructure, but the US is only responsible for about 50% of global ethane production, which suggests export controls wouldn't be effective in the long term

https://www.csis.org/analysis/us-china-trade-talks-london-ethane-export-controls-and-need-better-economic-statecraft

>>510998814
The value of ethane export controls as leverage is arguably overblown. Only about 8-10% of China's ethylene output is from ethane feedstock, and those of China's crackers that run on ethane are flexible and can use other feedstocks just as well. The alternatives are more expensive than ethane, but Chinese ethylene crackers don't have to shut down if they can't get ethane.

Meanwhile, there's not really nowhere else ready to absorb all that American ethane

US dominates export of ethane because they are the only ones who have invested heavily in ethane export infrastructure, but the US is only responsible for about 50% of global ethane production, which suggests export controls wouldn't be effective in the long term

https://www.csis.org/analysis/us-china-trade-talks-london-ethane-export-controls-and-need-better-economic-statecraft

I think export controls on other things such as LEAP turbofans was a far greater concern for Xi

>>510999924
>there's not really nowhere else ready to absorb all that American ethane
*there's not really anywhere else ready to absorb all that American ethane

>>510998910
>They're not going out of business because they aren't allowed to poison the locals by dumping chemicals.
Indirectly it could be said it is, because they aren't allowed to frack and poison the ground water

>>510997140 (OP)
that was the US, NATO ended the day the US attacked germany and western europes energy artery

this contradiction shows that the entire premise is fake, the US priority for Israel further shows that they are useless when he chips fall

>>510997140 (OP)
>chemical industry streamlined by third world countries that steal the patent
>hepatitis treatment that costs 300k, costs a few dollars in india and aliexpress
lmao, you can buy literal zyklon B derivatives from aliexpress nowadays

>>510997273
thread should've ended right here
we need to slaughter every last jew and race traitor on earth PRONTO

>>510998814
>>510999924
I can't find anything about US export controls on propane, only on ethane. Also, it seems the US is far less dominant in propane (and LPG) than in ethane
https://wits.worldbank.org/trade/comtrade/en/country/ALL/year/2023/tradeflow/Exports/partner/WLD/product/271112
https://www.indexmundi.com/energy/?product=lpg&graph=production&display=rank

>>510999924
>nly about 8-10% of China's ethylene output is from ethane feedstock, and those of China's crackers that run on ethane are flexible and can use other feedstocks just as well.
I like how you just make up nonsense.

>>510997427
Doesn't Europe want to get away from fossil fuels altogether? Why is this a bad thing? You can't get away from fossil fuels if you allowing polluting fossil-fuel industries to operate within the region.

>>511001863
It's in the link

>>510997140 (OP)
EUSSR is cuck paradise

>>511002859
I'm eagerly awaiting the announcement that the EU will fold like a wet paper towel in the current trade negotiations with the US

European manufacturing is predicated upon cheap unlimited oil and natural gas from Russia.

Vladimir Putin wanted to build an economic zone that extended from Spain through western Europe to China and southeast Asia. This Euro Asian trade bloc threatened the current Anglo American centered trading bloc that Europe now suffers under. This is why those that control the Anglo American economic trade zone always work toward the destruction of Russia and chose Ukraine as their hammer. This is why the people that control the Anglo American economic trade zone installed the homosexual jewish actor Zelensky. Unfortunately, for the people of Ukraine, Russian mettle is proving stronger than the hammer NATO chose to attack Russia with. Ukraine will be discarded and forgotten as soon as it is no longer useful to the global homo demons.

>>510997720
>>510998745
Don't worry the solution to all mismanaged economies: import infinity Indians

>>510997140 (OP)
>Europe's chemical industry is dying
>Take that, Putler

Are you ready for the 19th package of Russian sanctions Eurogolems?

>>510997140 (OP)
Lol
2027 laughs
Vehicles will still move while the crew inside long dead

>>510997140 (OP)
Perhaps if they just take money from the public and give it to the petrochemical industry to keep it afloat, then all problems will be solved and everyone will be happy :)

I recommend at least a 10% tax increase on every european. That should do the trick, and they like paying taxes anyway. It gives them good things like a petrochemical industry!

>>511002357
Ironically, China's petrochemical industry might soon be the "greenest" in the world, because many of their petrochemical plants will soon be powered by nuclear reactors (e.g. Xuwei NPP, which is already under construction)

>>510997140 (OP)

all the sanctions on the ruskis hit us harder then them.
and they keep up with new "sanction pakets" every other month. its like the green-lefties that want to deindustrialise germany and whole europe.

>>510997140 (OP)
I'm studying Chemistry, is it over for me? Will they take me in america when shit hits the fan?

>>511005262