Is Catholicism (and Christianity in general) even compatible with the survival of the white race? - /pol/ (#511019482) [Archived: 283 hours ago]

Anonymous ID: 27y9ZcDsUnited States
7/22/2025, 4:48:01 AM No.511019482
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Early on the religion strived due to in-group tribal preferences. However, this is clearly no longer the case due to the inherent globalist nature of the Church. Is there a way to bridge the gap or are both ideologies simply incompatible?
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Anonymous ID: Vc29qSIMUnited States
7/22/2025, 4:54:31 AM No.511019867
>that graph
>the size and diversity of those populations
>their history of successful protestant driven secularization of their countries
>this thread
Anonymous ID: dy2WyPWYUnited States
7/22/2025, 4:54:36 AM No.511019871
Yes, there is a fundamental contradiction between universalist religion and ethnocentrism. That's not to say that you couldn't employ a little theological inventiveness to resolve it (there are plenty of Bible verses you could point to which could be interpreted as justifying ethnocentrism), but the Catholic Church is not likely to go down that route any time soon
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Anonymous ID: 27y9ZcDsUnited States
7/22/2025, 5:00:59 AM No.511020240
>>511019871
As a Catholic it is difficult for me to not be at odds with what is preached especially when it comes down to present day racial landscape. Do you see the Church fracturing in a way that is similar to separate Ortho sects or it maintaining its ways until the ultimate endday?
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Anonymous ID: Vc29qSIMUnited States
7/22/2025, 5:19:15 AM No.511021399
>>511020240
You find it hard to reconcile 2000 years of tradition and consistency with memes that aren't even 20 years old and how they relate to the complex racial landscape of what is obviously the most diverse country in the world? Clearly, the salvation that Christ offers and the Catholic Church is for all mankind, and in its early days spread throughout the entire Roman world, in North Africa, in the Middle East, as much as it did in Europe.
>do you see the church fracturing into sects based on the unrealistic wants of niche online communities with edgy political views?
No.
Anonymous ID: dy2WyPWYUnited States
7/22/2025, 5:19:16 AM No.511021401
>>511020240
I don't foresee some kind of faction of the Catholic Church splitting off into a "White Catholic Church" or anything like that, but there's nothing preventing other churches from organizing themselves which agree with as much of Catholic doctrine as they like except for the globohomo part. So the question then becomes for you: why is it important for you to remain Catholic? Would you be fine with a church that agrees with them in 99.9% of things except there's a Sonnenrad above the door or whatever?
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Anonymous ID: uUd3PDJrCanada
7/22/2025, 5:21:55 AM No.511021561
>>511019482 (OP)
only when whites completely abandon jewish religions will we be able to save ourselves
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Anonymous ID: w3+IkDFF
7/22/2025, 5:25:24 AM No.511021778
>>511019482 (OP)
I don't care about the survival of the white race as a distinct and seperate collective, provided our culture and genes survive.

It doesn't bother me to think my grandchildren will probably be mixed. But they better not be fucking muslims though.
We need another crusade, those bastards do not have the right to Europe.
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Anonymous ID: 6kdMVc8wUnited States
7/22/2025, 5:26:49 AM No.511021856
>>511019482 (OP)
The only other option is get replaced by jeets.
America was a White Christian nation when it was founded.
Anonymous ID: 27y9ZcDsUnited States
7/22/2025, 5:28:09 AM No.511021941
>>511021401
I obviously do not want to go to hell hence my remaining in Catholicism. However, my ideas on race and cultural survival contradict its teaching constantly. Maybe its due to the fact of growing up in America in a pretty diverse town, but I would not go as far putting a sonnenrad above the the door like you say. Any initiative on a racial level would have to be taken outside the context of the church, hence my confliction here.
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Anonymous ID: dy2WyPWYUnited States
7/22/2025, 5:44:03 AM No.511022812
>>511021941
Do you think that all non-Catholic Christians are going to hell?
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Anonymous ID: 7qJ2ZE1MUnited Kingdom
7/22/2025, 5:46:40 AM No.511022946
>>511021941
What is your ethnicity
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Anonymous ID: 27y9ZcDsUnited States
7/22/2025, 5:48:22 AM No.511023041
>>511022812
Despite Catholicism indicating I should believe that I genuinely don't think other denominations are prone to going to hell. I understand the whole reasoning for their separation but to think they would go to hell is a step too far imo. Its hard for me to even think this way especially about Orthos as I think their system of separate rites seems to be working pretty well for them.
Anonymous ID: 0osnIncrUnited States
7/22/2025, 5:49:05 AM No.511023083
>>511021778
>It doesn't bother me to think my grandchildren will probably be mixed.
Unless you are completely buck broken beyond repair, how does the thought of your lineage being tainted by primitive shitoid genetics not bother you?
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Anonymous ID: 27y9ZcDsUnited States
7/22/2025, 5:49:16 AM No.511023096
>>511022946
1st Gen central slav/germanic mutt
Anonymous ID: w3+IkDFF
7/22/2025, 6:03:27 AM No.511023859
>>511023083
I don't really think genetics matter all that much. I've always been of the opinion that culture is the primary cause of behavior.
Given that civilization is a slow moving thing, though, my lineage being "tanted" with the genetics of another race would probably come with them being tanted by the inferior practices of another race.
So I suppose if I want them to not be barbarians it would might be in my best interest to keep them white anyways...
Anonymous ID: Vc29qSIMUnited States
7/22/2025, 6:09:30 AM No.511024120
>>511021561
>t.pastor of local Sonnerad Catholic Church two weeks into the neo-schism
>>511021778
>t.pastor of local Sonnerad Protestant Church two weeks into the neo-schism
>>511021941
>my ideas on race and cultural survival contradict its teaching
Incorrect. It is Catholic teaching that one must uphold the values of and defend their homelands, knights took oaths to this effect. Your homeland naturally entails all of your countrymen and all that makes a place your home to the extent that it is a peaceful garden in which the faith and faithful can flourish. Throughout history this included race, but of a national character; English, Spanish, German, etc. Only since the industrial age have methods of transportation made largescale demographic shift possible. So too is the sentiment of diverse populations a modern theory, and each country arrived at this conclusion in their own way. America specifically has always harbored various peoples because of the vast stretches of untouched land and untapped opportunities. So it is your Catholic duty as an American to prepare the soil of a healthy cultural landscape, spread the fertilizer of the faith, as well as tending to the many various plants that grow here and are united in our common struggle regardless of their classification, any rightful leader would do as much as he is the caretaker of the garden as a whole.
>>511022812
No, in Heaven there will be those protestants and believers in Christ who through no fault of their own were impossibly ignorant of the truths of the Catholic faith, and also those who have lived without direct informed knowledge of it due to their own foreign background who have yet still lived with Christ in their heart unbeknownst to them, simply put; it is up to God. However, those of us who have some idea and some instruction toward the true religion are advised not to miss the opportunity of living out the fullness of the faith or risking the alternative as if it is some small matter.
Anonymous ID: 0tre9lDRUnited States
7/22/2025, 6:12:02 AM No.511024243
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>>511019482 (OP)
Christianity and its consequences have been a disaster for the white race.
Anonymous ID: E4dwMfRhPuerto Rico
7/22/2025, 6:16:57 AM No.511024430
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>>511019482 (OP)
Rich countries lose culture, religion, community, meaning, etc. and replace it with services. Poor countries stay in the old ways and it works for them good enough.

This is not a desirable outcome. Ideally you have both the culture and the higher quality of life.
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Anonymous ID: w3+IkDFF
7/22/2025, 6:33:22 AM No.511025053
>>511024430
An intense culture of asceticism I suppose
Would only work on a small scale