Russia:
>23% of territory is in Europe
>Atheist larping as orthodox
>Still misses the commie past
>Dictature dressed up as presidential system
>No free elections
>Calls Europe "gayropa"
>Calls Europeans "europidors"
>Main adversary of NATO
>Won't ever integrate into European structures

Turkey:
>3% of territory is in Europe
>Chilled muslim
>Never was commie
>Dictature dressed up as presidential system
>Some free elections
>Calls Europe "Avrupa"
>Welcomes all Europeans
>Member of NATO
>Candidate to EU

I know I'm biased because I'm a Pole and I just came back from vacation in Turkey. What experts in politics, anthropology and history have to say in this matter?

>>511032229 (OP)
russia
cause they are Christians

>>511032229 (OP)
Turkey needs to split

>>511032229 (OP)
Um why is this even a question?

Russians are Slavic Europeans

Turks are muslims from Central

'Europe' is not well-defined. Personally I draw the European border at the Oder river, then down. Vienna, yes. But anything east of that can fuck off.

>>511032229 (OP)
Russia is the largest and most populous country in Europe.

>>511032229 (OP)
>Atheist larping as orthodox
Both atheism and orthodoxy are european
>Still misses the commie past
Communism is european
>Dictature dressed up as presidential system
>No free elections
wrong and irrelevant
>Calls Europe "gayropa"
>Calls Europeans "europidors"
They’re right though
>Main adversary of NATO
and?
>Won't ever integrate into European structures
The Russian govt is a european structure

>>511032229 (OP)
European part of Russia makes up 40% of Europe.

It should be Russia, but we all share a (((commie))) problem to this day. Ottoman roaches can fuck off

>>511032229 (OP)
Belarus is also dictatorship. Ukraine just cancelled their elections. Hungary is pretty much dictatorship.

Does that mean they are not European.
?

Neither is European, Türkiye is a more rational partner.

>>511032504
why isn't this allowed?

>>511032679
Because Turks are muslims.

Siberia should be considered part of Europe, since it's mostly populated by Slavs.

>>511032319
>cause they are Christians
Meh. Like 8% of them that goes to church.
>>511032437
That makes Germany and Austria literal Eastern Europe.

>>511032229 (OP)
>Calls Europe "gayropa"
>Calls Europeans "europidors"
Realistically, how do you respond to this without sounding mad?

So let's see:

>Ethnic Russians are Slavic Europeans.
>Moscow and St Petersburg (their two most important cities) are in Europe.
>80% of their population lives in Europe.
>Culturally and genetically identical to Belarus and Ukraine.

>>511032229 (OP)
>Won't ever integrate into European structures
>Main adversary of NATO
Asked to join NATO, rejected.
>Calls Europe "gayropa"
>Calls Europeans "europidors"
Where are we wrong?
>Still misses the commie past
Lmao
>Atheist larping as orthodox
Everyone I know believes in God, or started believing recently.
>Dictature dressed up as presidential system
>No free elections
Thank God.

>>511032798
>austria
>germany
>east of vienna
???
if anything it makes the czech central europeans

>>511032798
Do you not know where Vienna is?

>>511032935
>>Culturally and genetically identical to Belarus and Ukraine.
Until Ukrainians or Belarussians produce a video castrating an enemy soldier alive, Russia is clearly from a different, more savage culture than Europa.

>>511032229 (OP)
>23% of territory is in Europe
Yeah cuz its an empire that conquered it's eastern neighbors?

>>511033006
>was

Russia is European, has been an ally to Europe in the past and its royal family was European. You can argue now its Eurasian, but St Petersburg is one of the most beautiful cities in the world and very European.
Turkey never was European or an ally to Europe.

>>511032319
AHAHAHAHAHA
They are atheists larping as Christians

>>511032229 (OP)
The only common "European" thing between most Europe cunts is being Christian so Russians are more European by default. You cant say with a straight face that Nordics and Balkaners are culturally same.

>>511033060
Are you retarded? Russia conquered Siberia in the 16th century.

It's the only European empire still standing.

>>511033060
Well they were more successful in keeping its imperial holdings
The USA isn't an "empire" but it's a fucking empire

>>511033080
>St Petersburg
st. pidor is a druggie shithole
wtf are u talking about

>>511033080
Entire Europe is part of Eurasia.

>>511033160
>Austrialian 16th century posting
Keep me informed
>>511033171
>But what about the US posting
Keep me informed

Did you know Russia is the only country on the planet celebrating independence from Poland?

Russia is ethnically and historically closer to Europe than Turkey. The question and the questioner are retarded.

>>511033205
Let me guess, you're an Ukrainian living in Ausria

>>511033231
Certainly not culturally or genetically.

>>511033291
Wrong. Wanna try again?

Russians are Slavs, which automatically makes them Europeans.

>>511033205
I went back in 2017 and enjoyed it, I don't know how it is now.
>>511033231
Wrong

>>511032229 (OP)
Obviously Russia, Turkey has got nothing to do with being european

Yurop big gay

>>511033296
Finns and Hungarians literally originated from Asia.

Italians look like Arabs.

>>511033414
That leaves 20 other nations that have nothing to do with Asia culturally or genetically.
>>511033358
dont get me wrong it has beautiful parts and architecture but its going to shit and the scum gathers there.

I wish draft dodgers would be deported and sent to the front lines.

>>511033265
>Keep me informed
No I meant that there are many countries that grew in size because of conquests but we don't call them empires
All large countries are empires

You wouldn't be retarded to say china was Muslim because of their western populatilns

>>511033151
this Turk get's it

>>511032541
>Both atheism and orthodoxy are european
Russia atheism is rooted in communism, which itself is embodiment of Asian collectivism.

Orthodoxy is gray area. Constantinople was junction of Europe and Asia.
>Communism is european
Nope. It was systemitized in Europe, but European nations rejected it (unlike Chinks and other insektoid people).
>wrong and irrelevant
Democracy is European invention.
>The Russian govt is a european structure
If it's uncapable of cooperation with other European structures, it means it's politically/culturally different.

>>511032620
>t. Turk

>>511033579
It's clearly a Ukrainian draft dodger impotently seething online..

>>511033478
>there are many countries that grew in size because of conquests but we don't call them empires
>All large countries are empires
this is what happens when you force a bio-drone to articulate its cognitive dissonance.
it bugs the fuck out

>>511033151
>>511033494
I have more in common with Turks than westoid cucks.

>>511032976
>where Vienna is
Around 500 km to the west of geographical center of Europe.

>>511033621
Makes sense given you were Turkeys bitch for centuries.

>>511033621
Thats because turks raped your ancestors and made them slave soldiers, very unfortunate, mine smoked turks with the russians in Bulgaria

>>511032229 (OP)
> pshek is bootlicking muslims

You fell low, poolak.

>>511033606
clearly
A ukrainian draft dodger would also say this to you
olle wos deana untamenschn ausm genetisch geschädigten zugfrorenen scheissloch hörig san, wörn zämma mit eana hänga, i freu mi ufs zappla vo dina goofa
>>511033579
>t. ginger

>>511032798
>That makes Germany and Austria literal Eastern Europe.
>>511033640
>Around 500 km to the west of geographical center of Europe.
A bit early to be shitfaced isnt it

>>511033671
Gott bin ich froh kein Schluchti zu sein. Das ist ja ekelhaft.

>>511033495
>Russia atheism is rooted in communism, which itself is embodiment of Asian collectivism.
Communism is clearly an embodiment of Cuban collectivism. Retard. It started in Europe, and the communist superpower was primarily European.

>>511033495
>Nope. It was systemitized in Europe, but European nations rejected it (unlike Chinks and other insektoid people).
There is a difference between a "nation" and a "state". The Western states had better functioning government apparati to stamp down or appease communist sentiments than Eastern ones.

>>511033642
*part of Ottoman empire. Keep seething, you're a bitch to kikes. Go work now for Mehmed, Zdravko, and Blerim, so they can enjoy gibs and your femoids.

>>511033606
Germany and France have crossed the threshold demographic of never being majority native German and French again. The ruling class should be roped for negligence.

>>511033621
Balkaners together strong.

>>511033671
Eat shit NAFOid cuck

>>511033655
Finngoloid who was raped by nordcucks and ruskis proud to suck their dick even today

>>511032679
Europe isnt really a continent, its a region within Eurasia, as with most similar concepts based around ethnic, historical, religious, and linguistics factors, the territory whoch can be considered "Europe" could be anywhere from the gates of Vienna to the eastern shores of Vladivostok. So it's just an idea, not an on the ground reality which cant be disputed, like the fact that the Americas are separate from Eurasia.

>>511032965
>Asked to join NATO, rejected.
Nope. Russia has never submitted a candidacy. Putin thought it's below him to wait in line along with other countries.
>Where are we wrong?
You wouldn't be that wrong if Russia itself wouldn't get San Francisco's levels of STDs.

>>511032229 (OP)
>colonial empire has colonial holdings outside of its continent of origin
What percentage of the British empire was in Europe? A lot less than 23% I can tell you that much but does that mean the English aweren't Europeans at that time?

>>511033793
Yes, honestly. We were retarded to work against Istanbul. Westoids didn't help us for centuries and kept trading with the Sultans. We should've been good milet and take over westoid cuck betrayers over.

>>511033793
You're not a balkaner, balkaners are people like croats and serbs

>>511033945
I only listen to Finngoloids concerning matters of whiteness

>>511033725
>cant translate the dialect
Now prove you are not a Russian hiding in Europa, please
>>511033811
Do gingers have souls?

>>511032229 (OP)
Russia obviously.

Here's how I classify people living in Russia:

Europeans: Ethnic Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians, Finnic People. Moldovans, Germans etc.

Asians: Native Siberians. They only make up small percentage of the population. Kinda like Native Americans.

Eurasians: Tatars, Central Asians, Chuvash etc.

Neither European nor Asians: Chechens, Georgians, Armenians, Jews etc.

>>511033900
Warsaw is literally gayer than all of Russia combined.

>>511034048
>Do gingers have souls?

>>511032229 (OP)
russia is russia, not europe not asia. its a nordic country.

>>511033900
>Genetic studies show that Russians are closely related to Poles, Belarusians, Ukrainians, as well as Estonians, Latvians, Lithuanians, and Finns.[46][48][49][50]

POLAND BTFO! HUMILIATED!

>>511032229 (OP)
>i visited turkey
My condolences

>>511034048
That and courage sometimes you NAFOid cuckolds will never attain from your hasburg inbread bloodlines.

>>511034208
proof?

>>511034241
>sometimes
Something*

>>511032612
Europe was a dictatorship for most of history

>>511034241
I am both a hohol and a habsburg?
woah
Imagine those chins with those hairstyles.
Do you know what I am talking about? Have you experienced some education about European history?

>>511032229 (OP)
Even Kazakhstan has bigger territory in Europe than Turkey.

>>511033744
>It started in Europe
As literal bioweapon. Lenin was sent to Russia by Germans to fuck it up and it fucked up not just Russia, but half of continent.

Asians on the other hand embraced it and are keeping evolving with it. That is because collectivism is in their nature.
>The Western states had better functioning government apparati to stamp down or appease communist sentiments than Eastern ones.
Commie virus infected their academia as well. It's just that they weren't physically overwhelmed by Russian commie hordes.

>>511034263
>that and courage something
maybe put down the bottle

>>511032229 (OP)
Russia because they are closest genetically.

>>511034291
You do know Siberia is mostly populated by Slavs/European settlers right? Native Siberians only make up small percentage of the population, like Native Americans.

(((Europe))) is a made up concept that is used for 2 reasons: To hide the faction that rules all these countries from the shadows and to establish a creation myth / cultural foundation for westoids. So the question if Ruskis or us are more european is meaningless

We get along well with balkaniggers, meds and some eastern euros. Thats it

>>511034291
Communism is nothing more than a judeomasonic industrial revolution. People keep forgetting the bolsheviks had a global goal.

>>511032853
Pidaras nachoj

>>511034283
Hasburgs created the hohol identity. You're not all that different

>>511034362
Some soviet peasants being carted there doesnt make them European.

>>511034161
In the gayest part of Warsaw you still wouldn't be as exposed to anal rape as you're in most straight parts of Russia.

>>511034445
>Le Galicia Cope
keep me informed

>>511034453
Siberia is 85% Slavic. What are you smoking son?

Russians are Europeans who conquered lands in Asia.

Turks are West Asians who conquered some lands iin Europe.

>>511034483
>Slavic != European
I am not your son, memefaggot.

>>511034291
>Asians on the other hand embraced it
Moron, again, the working class throughout the world was embracing it. The difference between shitholes and non-shitholes (Western Europe/USA) is that advanced countries could resist it from the top down.

Not saying it's bad, by the way, but you're fabricating shit and you have no argument. Asians are about as much mindless bugmen as Poles or Britons. Only a nation of completely cucked, mindless people could let things get to where they are now in almost any Western country.

The only difference is, you can lead a communist revolution against a disloyal and poor shithole state apparatus pretty easily, but good luck doing it against the Crown.

>>511034534
>Russians are Europeans
Russians WERE Europeans.
Then they killed their European monarchy, got mindfucked by oprichniks for a century, and are now just an Asiatic horde that shares some fragments of history with Europa and has nothing to with it anymore culturally or genetically.

>>511034589
Nice headcanon but we have way too much in common with the EU in reality, too many similarities for my liking.

>>511034651
>too much in common with the EU
In the videos about human testicles we produce, we usually fondle the balls, not cut them off an alive human being.

We have nothing in common, Ivan, nothing.
Except usage of the metric system perhaps.

>Atheist larping as orthodox
I mean you say that but quintessentially Russian things like their fatalism are culturally orthodox.
>>511033151
East West split is real and has been real for over a thousand years.

>>511034651
>we have way too much in common with the EU
Give 3 examples besides religion.

>>511034782
>besides religion.
whatever this is, its not christian.

>>511032229 (OP)
STFU you retarded ruskie-in-denial, you started the second world war, your land grabbing mongolo-gypsie tribe deserve to be assraped by any subhumans specially your AIDS riddled cousins

>>511034580
>the working class throughout the world was embracing it
You are fucking retarded. You have no idea why and how communism fell in Europe.

>>511032853
There’s no point to respond to Russian drivel

>>511034968
>t. celebrates indepedence from Poland

>>511032229 (OP)
TRVTHNVKE:
Russia is Europe (including far east)
Turkey and Caucasus are Europe
Idk why people are trying to retcon history
Wars fought over some random bullshit , and authoritarian shitholes are European tradition lol

>>511032965
> Asked to join NATO, rejected.
Where is formal application?

>>511032229 (OP)
>anudda kikeoid two choice dilemma thread
How about neither

>>511034544
>tf
Funny coming from a slav that started speaking german. Stop pretending there is even a noticeable difference between slavs and germans besides language.

>>511034973
Read my post, cretin. We can talk about why it fell and why it's not going to happen in China, but that wasn't the topic.

>>511034758
culturally orthodox?

>>511032229 (OP)
>I just came back from vacation in Turkey
Well too bad you didn't have drowned in turkish cum and came back with regular polish rent-free seething.

I literally never seen anyone here who gives a fuck about poles or Pooland. Who even needs these daily threads.

>>511032229 (OP)
Neither of them is european. They're both dirty muslim holes even worse than paris.

I'm so fucking tired of p*lish threads, truly deserve to be rangebanned. Once again ready to support fucking roaches

>>511032229 (OP)
>polish russia butthurt thread #2833
This is really getting old.

>>511035123
>You are us, you just learned to speak german!
I suppose its a cognitive filter anyway.

>>511032229 (OP)
neither of them are human let alone european

>>511033414
>jeet shows up with shit for opinions
k thanks bye

>>511032229 (OP)
>>511032541
>Which one is more European?
Europe, Asia, Australia, Americas etc. are continents where totally different countries are accidentally situated - it’s called geography, and continents can’t be gay, atheist, orthodox, commie or other human adjectives.

>>511035159
The NAFO thinktanks are awfully close to needing new cannon fodder. Poles and Romanians are next best candidates.

>>511035159
>Well too bad you didn't have drowned in turkish cum
Sorry we spent it all on Russian Natashas.

>>511035132
Nigger, you're wrong on everything. You're confusing cause with effect and I won't waste my time on you.

>>511035379
olga status?

>>511032229 (OP)
Is Turkey even much of a deal right now?

>>511035429
How about you address anything I've actually said, you absolute fuckwit?

>asians are bugmen
>not me though, i'm an enlightened Polak
You are about as much of a bugman as the worst chinaman you can find. Uncritically parroting talking points that don't even relate to anything and unable to analyse anything. I spit on you.

>>511033123
are they? There was a webm of a Russian woman who wanted to take a bath in a frozen holy lake as a orthodox rite. She dove into the black water and disappeared under the ice surface. and died.
but going swimming in holy lakes and springs seems quite common there.

>>511034365
This, all of this glownigger board is totally blind to the race.

>>511035527
If you are in the sights of jews and americans, you are doing something correctly.
I always held that belief.

>>511032229 (OP)
>poolack simping for Turks
Not surprised.

There is little value in your country being considered part of Europe today.
It is becoming the worst murica

Europeans can be divided in 2: the faggots who suck turkish cock and forgot turks are the eternal enemies of europe, and real european who prefer mongol-tatars that larp as white people than brown jeet-like armeno-greeks that larp as mongolian-turkic

>>511035689
>tf
>tp

>>511034365
Nah bro. Take pride in their hatred. They always ostricize Turkey, because they always feared it and still do, for what it could become.
The euros have 3 modi operandi.
1. Suck up to the biggest dog --> US
2. Ignore those beneath them --> non-white 3rd world
3. Hate those who are potential adversaries --> China, Russia, Turkey

>>511035724
Serbs don't think about Turks.

>>511035772
Because all you think is sucking Russian cocks.

>>511032229 (OP)
Arent russians extremely genetically close to poolacks? You literaly are from the same language family to. Is this like a slide thread?

>>511035804
It's you that had gay brothels everywhere though.

>>511035805
Arent you just a nigger? Whats the difference between you and a naked negro in the jungle?

>>511035805
1/3 of Poles are East boos
Another 1/3 of Poles are West boos
The remaining 1/3 of Poles are gypsy-like hate everyone.

>>511035913
t. polish bike thief in austria

>>511035913
Siema! Kto PL?

>>511035913
Shush meanie. Why are you seething this bad about such a mudane topic?

>>511035973
>Italian defending some African
>shilling against poles
Wanna tell me about 800k subscribers on some bugman propaganda channel?

You are as Italian as the Pizza my Kebap guy makes.

>>511036024
It was an honest question, whats mean about it?
Dont you share genetics with what crawls around in the jungle there? You sure look like you do.

>>511036022
Herzlich wilkommen!

>>511036114
I'm in Erste, in fact I have just come back from the bank.

>>511032229 (OP)
There is nothing european about turkey even if you hate russia, turks don't even consider themselves european. They are also muslims and one of the biggest enemies of Europe historically. I don't hate them though. 3% of Turkey's population live on the european continent.


Most of russia's population like 80% is in europe they are culturally and religion wise european. They would elect putin because he is good for their country.

You are stupid, if you consider turkey european op.

>>511036190
>I'm in Erste, in fact I have just come back from the bank.
We know

>>511036086
>gets asked about poles
>rants about niggers
Is this like a freudian slip thing?

>>511032798
>>511033123
that's cool but i'm still gonna be taking side of the larping Christians over devoted muzzie

>>511036190
Ausgezeichnet.
>>511036270
>posts from Ethiopia
>wonders why he gets called a nigger
>wonders why he gets questions about niggers
>wants to talk about Poles
DNA status?

>>511036219
The turkified greeks in the west are european and they do want to belong to Europe. You guys dismiss them with the screeching of the low IQ brown central anatolian. Who is of arab,iranian and armenian descent. Those actually hate Europe with a passion because they simply have nothing to do with them.

>>511036358
100% axumite, but why are you getting mad at a simple question?

>>511032229 (OP)
>Which one is more European?
what a stupid question,
Europe is about culture, genetics, phenotype.
Just because Russia is an adversary against the West and autocracy run by oligarchs like a Banana-Republic while Turks are less adversary and less autocractic at the moment, doesn't negate the simple fact that Russians are white and Turks brown.

>>511032229 (OP)
Russia. Without question in comparison to Turkey.
>>511036270
Africa has the most diverse gene pool. So many different alleles from one another in the same locus. Traits might appear similar but many are polygenic.

>>511032229 (OP)
What sort of bait this is? Russia is one of the whitest countries on the Earth, poles comparted to us are just some swarthy mutts, and Turkey is unquestionably brown, no half measures about them. The correct way to phrase your question would be are poles are half whites as Russians or they are closer to Turks than whites.

>>511036715
Poles are half white compared to Russians*

>>511032229 (OP)
>>Won't ever integrate into European structures
"Rejected by Europidors" you mean?
Post-WW2:
> USSR: Let's be friends
> NATO: Fuck off
After USSR collapse:
> Russia: Let's be friends
> NATO: Fuck off

>>511036435
Yes, but what percent of Turkey's population is that? Turkish people mostly consider themselves turkish not asian or european. Only a small percentage sees themselves as european it is mostly europeans arguing whether turkey is european.

>>511032229 (OP)
>polish flag
>headcanon drivel
checks out

>>511036715
both of you are white, i am just happy i have them and not you as neighbours, you are white buy easily to manipulate into waging wars, at least in Germany we had some resistance during WW2, you have only silent russians terrified of their own government not daring the slightest form of resistance, not even daring to think about it.

>>511036811
I dont know. Turkey is notorious for turkifiying all "turks" who are not identfying as kurdish or migrant arabs/afghans etc,. Thats not even a debate there and is not really in the collective conscious. But I guess at least 15 million. Probably even more. Some say around 20% of the entire population.

>>511036654
>getting mad at a simple question?
??? You got mad I asked about you niggers.
are you projecting?

>>511035379
kek right there with you kardash, these bitches love meds.

>>511036808
>Russia acting like some bitch you didnt call
lol

>>511036658
>Russians are white
Argentinians and Australians are white too. They're not Europeans even though they culturally don't put themselves in opposition to Europeans as much as Russians do for past several centuries.
>Turks brown
As brown as rest of Meds from what I've seen.

>>511036808
>LETS BE FRIENDS
>okay, release Czechoslovakia, Germany, Poland and other countries you occupy
>NO

>lets me friends
>okay, just don’t attack Georgia and Ukraine
>Fuck you!!!!

>>511037241
This is a russia thread started by a pole my dear european nigger. What are you though are you anctual draft dodger uki or a pole migrant

>>511037142
NATO would start bombing Russia in a heartbeat given a chance, just like they did to Serbia or Libya under manufactured pretext. Russia waging defensive wars is a necessity for its survival.

>>511037436
Explain the history of Austrian neutrality, if you please.

>Georgia
I mean you could at least pretend to be smart if you only talked about Ukraine, but Georgia attacked Russia first, because they thought they'd get help from NATO. Oops. By the way, how did Saakashvili end up being the governor of Odessa?

>>511037230
I think they only wanna he european because of money

>>511037436
>>okay, just don’t attack Georgia and Ukraine
Why do you mention events that happened long after Putin was told to fuck off?

>>511037474
I would defend Poles too if I was western to be honest. Imagine having 40 million attack dogs if you just drop them a few pennies and make them insecure.

>>511037767
The poles dont need Europe as an excuse. They actually truly hate the russians...

>>511037844
Truly redpilled Poles can hate Russians but some know that Russia was accidentally (not on purpose) good for them. If Germany ended up dominating over Poland in the last century little would remain, while Stalin shifted Polish borders westwards and stabilised them. I;m just having a bit of fun poking them because while I have nothing against Poles personally, I consider them them very stupid and annoying.

>>511037536
Why should anyone bother with bombing moskals when they are retarded enough to destroy themselves?

>>511032355
Rope yourself vpn jeetnigger/stationed amerimutt zogbot

>>511037474
>Ethiopian calling me a nigger
ok then

>>511037557
>Explain the history of Austrian neutrality, if you please.
You mean the country that is surrounded by NATO for decades now? Yet was allowed to stay neutral?
You mean the country that both the soviets and the americunts wanted neutral?
The country that gets called "Nazi germanys first victim" in US history books?
That Austria?
Fucking clueless, uneducated, snownigger. drown yourself in vodka like your alcoholic father did

>>511032229 (OP)
Nope, Russian are fighting, knocking down and killing the disgusting turkish scoundrels of the weak turkish regime; despite the delusion russia isn't, fortunately for Russia, fighting the west but only the turkish and the ukros

Furthermore, many French and Greeks are fighting for the Russian, like in the 1820s and WW1

>>511038248
>decades
What year did it become neutral and under what circumstances? I asked for an explanation, not needless insults.

>>511038704
LMFAO what the fugg is this paki talking about. Many more Greeks & french fight for ukraine ma nigga you know shit. 1820s? WW1? french and greeks fighting for russia? lmao. Nigger we fought for ourselves despite empires like russia wanting to keep us under special treatment but under ottogay rule and not independent. seems like you need a refresh of your history, faggot. Only when they seen that independence was inevitable they decided to help. Plus, the navarino battle was started by british forces skrmishing with egyptians.

>>511038810
In 1955 under mixed occupation from British, French, American, and Soviet forces, under several terms that affects Austrias military, territory, and especially military alliances.

Now fuck off you stupid baltrusnigger or whatever the fuck you are.
When France left NATO, they didnt get invaded either, dumb cocksucker, but I bet they even tell you this, and you DECIDE to not inform yourself.

>>511039127
Didnt they want to create a greek empire that included Constantinople? Your people were also respected minorities is russian cities. Why the need to antagonize mr. Hellene

>>511039287
Why does a nigger concern himself with European affairs?

>>511039287
>Your people were also respected minorities is russian cities
Totally ethiopian topics.

>>511039143
>nafo fucks around
>xoxol screeches
The trick is you were designed to be a sacrificial lamb from the start. Cope xoxol, cope, you’ll never be European

>>511032229 (OP)
Turkey was always Middle Eastern country. Russia always had close ties to Europe. The Ukraine was always a part of Russia. It’s shrimple

>>511039372
Why do you concern yourself with Asian affairs (Poland, Ukraine, etc)?

>>511039427
>Basic History is now russophobic
Reality must be hard.

>>511039549
I am glad you have accepted that Russia is, in fact, not European.

>>511039609
>basic history
Which is? Tell us son

>>511039649
150 years ago people considered even the eastern halves of Germany non-European, let alone the rest.

>>511039484
>Russia always had
had, anon had.
These ties were nosediving since 2014.
And now we continue to further seperate from each other - I am being told Russians want this.
So why are you dumb snowniggers so desperate to be called European?
You are exactly like trannies.

>>511039699
dr luschtige ma us braunau mit am schnauzer hat scho dr richtige einschätzung vo euch ka
>>511039709
I am glad you agree that cultural ties can change, we are also now in an era of change.

I still do not understand why Rusniggers get so angry when you remind them they are a primarily Asiatic country and culture.

Are they not proud of their heritage?

>>511039287
nope, Greeks were prosecuted and thousands died during red terror cause many of them were farmers ie prime targets for commies.

>>511039933
No way the Russian-shilling Ethiopian is bad with history.

>>511032229 (OP)
nice thread where most of its "users" are not even real, they're programmed bots, very very organic and totally not made up

>>511037399
>As brown as rest of Meds from what I've seen.
you can argue whether mediterraneans are white or brown, but you can't argue whether northern europeans are

>>511032798
You act like Christians normally go to Church nowadays. The ones that do are actually the crazy ones, leaning near to Islamist level of radical but not as violent.

>>511039828
Why does some salopitek tries to educate me on my history while having bare to none of his? Tell us son, you seem to have some pristine knowledge and aren’t afraid to spam deepseek

>>511040979
>on my history
>>511039143
Please point out where I talked about Russian History, you deranged, attention-starved vodkanigger

>>511040979
>afraid to spam deepseek
This is the best compliment I have received the whole week, thank you anon.
My superiority is becoming more and more evident.

>>511032229 (OP)
Turkey is definitely more European than Puccian Mongoloid Muslim Churkas.

>>511032229 (OP)
Neither of us are Europeans. Most of us don't claim to be either, it's mostly the liberal youth.

Also, TZD.

>>511039372
>>511039404
Stfu nigger. It's like you're begging for my attention.

>>511041398
Must be hell surrounded by niggers all day and calling other people niggers.
That is, if you are actually in Ethiopia. Kekw

>>511041317
I think Türkiye is a place between places. A gateway and crossroads nation.

Anything north of Skopje(asiatic steppe) and south of Olymp(mena) is not Europe

>>511040979
Russians don't know their own history. You only know the rewritten history, full of lies, that you are taught in schools.

>>511039933
The bolsheviks targeted all farmers tho. More Ukrainians and russians died in jew led terror. You were also the main perpetrators of the pogroms so its just russain vs greek but jew vs others

>>511041520
I didnt even fucking speak of his history, I spoke of Staatsvertrag in 1955 and Austrias independence.

>>511041543
>Greeks were respected
>No, Greeks were persecuted just like all subjects of the soviet shitstate
>Actually, poor ruskis had it way worse, YOU greeks did the progroms
just fucking kill yourself you retarded nigger.
Nothing you say makes sense and you will be dismantled wherever u go.

>>511041564
> turk shill
> living in austria
You and the swiss albanian nationalists are retarded.

>>511041667
>You are a hohol
>You are a nigger
>You are a turk
Fishing is an ethipian pasttime after all, but you are scraping the barrel with the baits.

>>511041613
Why be obtuse mehmet san. Greeks were treated well during imperial russia and also participated in the pogroms against jews. How does judeo/bolshevik action against them reflect greeco russian relations

>>511041794
You are literally contradicting yourself within 2 messages, as long as it serves the agenda purpose.
You are no human being. You have been reduced to a biodrone, and you let it happen.
Your daddy would be proud.

>>511041793
Lol this thread isn't even about our respective countries what are we even doing :3

>>511041543
>greeks did pogroms vs russians
kek, greeks were massively against tsarists and against commies, they were for independent ukraine, unironically, so they sided with either anarchists of the time and nationalists. Many volunteered from Greece to go fight in today's Ukraine against the commies as well, such was the hate for communism, also commies supported turks. Plus Greeks (albeit way less in numbers) that lived in northern regions of the empire were trying to align with the Whitesbut alas to no avail cause the whites were a clusterfuck. Now fuck off.

I just look at the last 200-300 years, see who's been genociding Europeans numerous times, and call them anti-European.

>>511041794
>treated well
you're talking about some of the freemasons living in Peterburg/Moscow? They were all treated OK. I am talking about the bulk of Greeks ie farmers in today's Ukraine and Black Sea.

>>511041859
>Stop pointing out how my perspective is clearly not that of an Ethiopian
>P-please, haha, what are we doing
Making sure you have no future is what I am doing.

This is such a nonsensical question.

Europes borders have been streched beyond the Ancient Greek definition.

Mainly to the East.
Peter I for example payed Dutch geographers to extend Europes borders to the Urals.

If we were to judge by Ancient Greek standards not even the Ukraine or Poland are European.

>>511041836
What are you even saying bro? >>511041904
When did i say the pogroms were against ethnic russians? I also don't see we were treated badly by the russians in tsarist times, because I've not read about it before? If true its unfortunate but to say russia is an enemy to greeks would be far stratched

>>511042138
Ancient Greek borders for Europe ended around the Don river, maybe a little bit more to the east, which makes sense if you look at it considering what tribes lived there etc. and that don worked as a natural border.

>>511042095
How? Were just insulting eachother on an anime image board ackmet

>>511042275
To some geographers.
Others had it at Tanais. Others at the Danube.

This European thing is a XIXth century fetish that never went away.

Both Turkey and Moscovia, have at some point wanted to have the European "badge of prestige".

Namely with Peter I and Mustafa Kemal.

>>511039143
Okay, and what are the lessons we can draw from it? Or how about the lessons from Finnish neutrality?

>50pbtid
Better be getting paid for this, my friend.

>>511032229 (OP)
Russia 100%. Turkey is an Iranosphere country on Byzantine soil.

>>511042273
have you any idea of the situation the simple peasantry lived in tsarist russia? You're greek? δουλοπαροικία you know what that is and when it was abolished? They couldn't even own the fucking land they farmed, lad.

>>511042367
Anatolia had the "european" badge during the roman empire which is why the turks tried to recover after the nationalistic movement. But in effect and geographically was considered Asia by the Romans as well. Moscovia never really did, parts of the empire did, like todays Ukrainian regions, Belarus regions and northern/western Russian regions. They tried to become more european by inviting german/french aristocracy to the russian empire up to the point their aristocrats spoke german/french more than russian. Geographically I think the don or even urals cuts it, it aint a serious matter anyway. Anatolia might as well but the OGs considered it Asia, soo might as well consider them Asia as well.

>>511032229 (OP)
The Romans already complained about asiatic greeks and syrians and they meant anatolians with asiatic greeks.

>>511042666
HOLY KEK! Thats literally the owner of our local Dönershop. How can this be so accurate!?

>>511042689
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assuwa

Asia is literally called Asia after the Assuwa league.

A league of cities in western Anatolia during the Bronze Age.

Most likely the league of cities that the Achaeans had to face during the Trojan war.

To say Anatolia is not Asian is a complete oxymoron.

Its literally Asia Minor. And it named all of Asia from Marmara to Japan.

>>511042860
Yeh I know, mate.

>>511036435
>Who is of arab,iranian and armenian descent. Those actually hate Europe with a passion
No those think they're much more european than Turks. Even though Turks are much whiter and much more European.

>>511042689
Isnt that just feudalism bro? Did the russian population treat you badly or were you treated as badly as the average russian surf.

>>511032229 (OP)
Neither and both these countries shouldn't have access to the internet

>>511042138
>Peter I for example payed Dutch geographers to extend Europes borders to the Urals.
So ruskis have been trying to LARP as Europeans forever, thanks for the info.
One cant buy class and humanity. Arabs dont understand this either.

>>511042273
That you are a lying nigger and not worthy of my time.
You must improve or you will lose your position.

>>511042943
Turks were forced by contrition and coercion to accept that Europe was supreme over their Caliphate/Sultanate.

Mustafa Kemal in a sense is the projection of this Islamic/Autocratic defeat.

So its not that the Turks are different.
Its that Britain, France, Germany and Moscovia forced them to be different.

>>511032229 (OP)
either one is more relevant than your gypsy shithole

>>511032967
>>511033703
>>511032976
its a retarded pollack
have patience

>>511043086
>what is dunmeh?

You're posting some child grade 1 level shit

>>511043075
What part needs improvment ackmet san

>>511033495
>Russia atheism is rooted in communism, which itself is embodiment of Asian collectivism.
The Czechs are the most atheistic group in Europe and I bet most of you christian poles are also larpers.
>Democracy is European invention.
The Weimar republic was the 2nd worst time in German history. The worst time is currently in Weimar 2.0.
Your Poland was also barely a democracy in the inter war period and I doubtthat Pilsudski was more democratic than Putin.

I just want an Anzu waifu

>>511043049
As badly and worse, especially during the red terror cause they were considered foreign elements even having ideological confrontation, is there something you don't get? There was no special treatment. The only ones to get a special treatment were merchants/shipbuilders and seems logical.

>>511043054
Yes. Peter I made some Dutch and German geographers change the oriental border of Europe to include Moscovia.

>>511032229 (OP)
To be fair, both are not European (even though most of Russians are wannabe European, but behave like cavemen).

>>511043234
Sorry bro she is reserved for BGC during the reconquista.

>>511043163
dolma??

>>511043182
>Please, my dear Europeans, make us better while we actively bomb you and want to destroy you
There is only one way this can end.
May God have mercy on our souls.

>>511032229 (OP)
>ima faggot
OP worships forced integration with niggers.

>>511043357
I am going there soon you will be too late

>>511032229 (OP)
I rate this post Polish Seething out of 10.

>>511032229 (OP)
We call you Eurocucks, not Europidors.
Retards here don't understand, that "pidor" is a noturningback insult in Russia - in rural areas you are even supposed to instantly punch anyone who called you that, even if he is obviously much stronger, or you lose all the cred. And when glowpiggers use this term online, they want to provoke Russians into hating hohols, while in reality even hohols at the frontlines don't use this term, cause they understand that no one would take them pow if they do it.

>>511043327
I cant find good info on this, do you happen to have a source? I can find that he hired dutch cartographers to "improve" russia, and I believe you, but is there good sources I can spam to rusniggers?

>>511032229 (OP)
the people in turkey were a lot nicer thats all i can say about this.

>>511038140
You have to go back ahmed

poland is the most european, since is the center of europe

>>511043554
>Retards here
You are not "here". You are in Russia and you will stay there. Now continue to learn english so you can communicate with the civilized world, you are a good dog.

>>511043234
Anzu Mazaki?

>>511043554
What would happen if I jump in front of Putin and called him a Pidormidgetfaggot?
Straight up dive from a balcony or 20 years of backbreaking slavery in some gulag in Yakutia?

>>511043554
>while in reality even hohols at the frontlines don't use this term, cause they understand that no one would take them pow if they do it.
kek for ukrainians whenever the word pidor is used it is to say russians and it all started in the frontlines.

>>511043705
No, the Turkish cosplayer

>>511043273
Why do keep mentioning the red terror when its common knowledge that jews were mostly behind it? What i said is that greeks were treated good by russians(which isn't much) but you were considered an equal. What the jews did doesn't matter

>>511043371
Lmao this turk is very funny

>>511043554
>when glowpiggers use this term online, they want to provoke Russians into hating hohols, while in reality even hohols at the frontlines don't use this term

Lol wut? There are a lot of videos from the frontline where Ukrainians use "pidor" towards Russians. Did your curator say to push "Russo-Ukrainian brotherhood" again?

In fact, the Russian army has homosexuals in its ranks (Wagner's Prigozhin once revealed that they recruited passive homosexual inmates).

>>511044010
for the jew to give a command and the golem to act there have to be certain circumstances or you think they were all mind controlled through magic alone?

>>511043232
>The Czechs are the most atheistic group in Europe
Which have very different roots to Russian atheism and has more to do with the fact that Germans killed 2/3 of Czechs (these more religious) during Hussite Wars.
>I bet most of you christian poles are also larpers.
It's other way around. My wife is an atheist and we have no cross in our house. Yet when our newborn got sick she personally went to church and promised to God we'll baptise our baby asap.
>Your Poland was also barely a democracy
Bitch please. During 1st Rzeczpospolita 10%-20% of Polish population had voting rights to elect their kings. It was first democracy since ancient Greece and centuries before some western countries followed democratic trend.

>>511044047
>im turkish again
häng di uf, klenes schissschneenegerle

>>511043836
Nope, that's what NAFO trannies who stay safe in Canada want you to believe. While in reality most hohols at the frontlines end up pow, get their phones checked, and if anything like that is found they are executed at spot, so they are very careful with what they say.

>>511044074
No one who is actually at the frontlines makes videos. All the videos are done by tiktokers who come to make them and leave.

>>511032319
Ah yes. The famous white religion. top lel

>>511033495
>Russia atheism is rooted in communism
No, it is rooted in european empiricism.

>>511044190
stfu pidor, nobody gives a fuck what you are saying anymore

>>511044216
>Hungarian
>Crying about European Empires
can you at least hire shills with basic education? This is embarassing.

>>511044190
lmao

>>511044190
>No one who is actually at the frontlines makes videos. All the videos are done by tiktokers who come to make them and leave.

Lol, ok. So the Russian corpses in such videos are Ukrainian ones.

I got your metodichka, comrade. Dogovornyachok is closer, right?

>>511044216
>No, it is rooted in european empiricism.
No, it is literally rooted in persecuting religion by the commies.

>>511032319
They are christian like you are Latvian, Ivan time to go back

>>511038140
mijn land uit kankerturk

>>511043584
Four years later, in 1725, Philip Johan von Strahlenberg was the first to depart from the classical Don boundary. He drew a new line along the Volga, following the Volga north until the Samara Bend, along Obshchy Syrt (the drainage divide between the Volga and Ural Rivers), then north and east along the latter waterway to its source in the Ural Mountains. At this point he proposed that mountain ranges could be included as boundaries between continents as alternatives to nearby waterways. Accordingly, he drew the new boundary north along Ural Mountains rather than the nearby and parallel running Ob and Irtysh rivers.[42] This was endorsed by the Russian Empire and introduced the convention that would eventually become commonly accepted. However, this did not come without criticism. Voltaire, writing in 1760 about Peter the Great's efforts to make Russia more European, ignored the whole boundary question with his claim that neither Russia, Scandinavia, northern Germany, nor Poland were fully part of Europe.[37] Since then, many modern analytical geographers like Halford Mackinder have declared that they see little validity in the Ural Mountains as a boundary between continents.[43]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe

>>511044500
tyvm

>>511044215
Compare the Christian third world to Islamic third world, and I feel that the Christian third world is a much better place.

I compare Rio de Janeiro to Cairo and I know where I’d rather live.
That… and any place where wine is illegal isn’t on my places to live.

>>511044105
Are you the greek i argued with last time about russians? Also that criticism would fall on all european nations so its moot

>>511044332
Trying way too hard, andrej. When it comes to humor, sometimes less is more.

>>511044645
You are a filthy mudslime. Fuck me a turkroach.

>>511044112
Am i supposed to belive that an austrian whose country fought against the turks for the better part of the last mellenium is a turk shill. Just be proud of who you are ackmet

>>511044711
you're the one arguing about special treatments, i am telling you there are none and no, i haven't argued with you. Russians did the same as the rest of the catholic states did but with more brutal take: use language and religion as means of control. It's not only about greeks but about all the nations living in the empire, it tried to swallow them all, alas didn't work out.

>>511032229 (OP)
Russia
Becose they are humans unlike turkroaches

>>511044790
I accept your concession. I suggest reading up on the Austrian-Hungarian Empire, you deranged LARPing faggot.
>>511044815
gestrn bin i ummeganga zu mina gotta uffan rasa und danoch usse uffan rasa gi tschutta. >>511044841
>You are a nigger
>You are a turk
>You are a hohol
>You are a nigger
>You are a turk
And you are still posting with an Ethiopian flag concerned about European affairs, calling people nigger while forgetting that Ethiopia is filled to the brim with them.

>>511039484
Correct.

>>511044110
>My wife is an atheist and we have no cross in our house. Yet when our newborn got sick she personally went to church and promised to God we'll baptise our baby asap.
You are just confirming my argument.
>During 1st Rzeczpospolita 10%-20% of Polish population had voting rights to elect their kings
And these 10%-20% were nobles while your peasants were oppressed more by nobles and jews than the rest of European peasants.
>It was first democracy since ancient Greece and centuries before some western countries followed democratic trend.
Tell that to Venice or any other of these noble republics in Italy. Post-WWII democracy was a disaster for all of Europe and in France's case it was a disaster much earlier than that.

>>511044868
I concede on the special treatment part but, your people did emigrate to their lands to be fair. Despite that to say russia was hostile to the greeks is absurd if not helped by sources. As i said thed did try to recreate your empire and the other europeans fought against it

>>511045006
Kanackisch?

>>511032229 (OP)
We're asians as we was told by our gov.

North Korea 2.0

>>511044815
You literally have more in common genetically with mudslimes than any Turk.It’s hilarious how you larp as white just because you were assimilated during the reconquista Lmao

>>511045082
Lad, Greeks lived there before even the Rus (from which they took the name to try and get some recognition by the Ruthenians during the time) came from Sweden, what are you talking about? Greeks lived there during the times of Scythians etc. Hell, even the tomb of Achilles is in Ukraine. just stop posting

>>511044112
kek lustige Turkenmaus

>>511045006
Lets not pretend your homeland(turkey) is a mongrelized shithole ackmet, you would be living their instead of leaching gibs otherwise

>>511032229 (OP)
Now do poland vs Nigeria

>>511045215
My nigga there was greek emigration into russia after the whole Bosporan kingdom thing. You could actually search it up. Hell your people were even in egypt and here.

>>511045201
Says the circumcised Armenoid named Hamsa.

>>511045474
Before, way before

>>511032229 (OP)
I like both of them

>>511045474
and it wasn't even called russia back then and the today's russian lands were inhabited by turkics. The southern/western lands by Scythian peoples that fit the description of white, the eastern you get the more iranian/turkic the tribes became. Plus Greeks lived mainly on the Black Sea shores, we're talking antiquity now during the times of Scythians, Sarmatians, Dacians, Thraco-Dacians etc.

>>511045645
You are talking about Chersonesos [Kherson], Olbia and other Greek colonies.

That was during the beginning of the Iron Age into the Byzantine period.

But it kinda ended with the Bulgars and Pechenegs.

>>511045071
>You are just confirming my argument.
Your argument was that Poles are larping as christians. My argument is that even these Poles who are larping as atheists, are actually christian.
>And these 10%-20% were nobles
Still it beats zero % that was common during that period in rest of Europe. Nowadays it's statistically not possible to find a Pole who doesn't have noble blood and whose ancestors didn't elect their kings. Democracy is much more founded in Polish society, than it is amongst Germans.
>Tell that to Venice or any other of these noble republics in Italy.
Ok, so some cities had elections as well. It's different scale (and even within that scale % of people with voting rights is smaller), but you have some ground, technically.
>Post-WWII democracy was a disaster for all of Europe and in France's case it was a disaster much earlier than that.
Meh. It's usually you, Germans, who are choosing worst leadership. Probably due to lack of democratic traditions. Your kids are teached how Hitler got to power through democratic elections, Polish kids are teached about personal responsibility for the state (liberum veto, weakening country that ended up with partitions etc.).

>>511045107
An Amish would understand the sentence, I am serious.
The rest you can assemble yourself. >>511045288
>posts sheboon ass while calling others brown
many such cases

>>511032229 (OP)
Turkey was never European and does not resemble Europe you retarded potato farmer.

>>511046038
I dont understand nor do I want to understand gutter German.

>>511032229 (OP)
>Which one is more European?

OP who's shilling for Turkey is a paki...kek

>>511032437
Yes, but on the other hand switzerland is like the least relevant country on earth, only existing because kikes chose it to house their money so i'm not convinced your opinion counts

>>511032229 (OP)
>I know I'm biased because I'm a Pole

you're a goatfucker

>>511046238
Dont worry, you never will.

>>511043609
The Dutch is right. Wtf is Russian ''peacekeeping'' army gonna do there? Cause more chaos? Keep the Black See entrance controlled by Russia? The japanese vpnigger is probably some kremlin bot.

>>511046326
Wotan sei dank

>>511045849
Agreed but small populations remained even under mongol rule, its pretty interesting

>>511046453
The german I spoke was those of the Celts and Allemanns, anon....

>>511045006
Lmaool what language is that? Sounds like Troll from Warcraft
>ungaga
>unchhutta
>bin zumina ungaga

>>511045645
No what im saying is the bosporan greeks are not the ones in the majority. The greeks of russia arived after the fall trapezund empire and after that peter 1 and catherine encouraged greek settlements. The russians even claim legacy of your empire. It would be kind of convoluted to asume you were porrly treated by them

>>511046485
Highly hybridized and bastardized.

>>511046495
Celts didnt speak German

>>511046568
I am talking about the regions of Ger/Aut that had them. They are the reasons that speak this german (akin to swiss german but not quite). The Amish do, too.
Whatever.

>>511046506
Its a german dialect that didnt make all progresses that High German did. Its close to Swiss German.

Mogsch mas Füdla uffam Kannapee blosa?

>>511045976
>Meh. It's usually you, Germans, who are choosing worst leadership. Probably due to lack of democratic traditions. Your kids are teached how Hitler got to power through democratic elections, Polish kids are teached about personal responsibility for the state (liberum veto, weakening country that ended up with partitions etc.).
My biggest example for the failure of liberal democracy is France. But whatever your naivety and pride will cause your doom.

>>511032229 (OP)
>Which one is more European?

>>511046748
It kinda looks like something from Codex Manesse.

Walther von der Wogelweide german.

>>511046966
You are correct: Vogelweides german would also not have made the same progressions (They are called moving vocals in german, idk the correct english term) as this swiss german/western austrian german.

>>511032229 (OP)
>Which one is more European?

>>511046824
Show your pidor eag flag.

Was the murdered Turkish? Was he working for the Turkish government?
That one teacher somehow counterbalances x00k murdered Ukrainians in just a couple of years?

You retarded bandit scum.

Nobody is seeing 'Muslim' Turks genocide White Christians- baZed russians do that.