Be honest, should women have rights?
>inb4 have sex incel
I've had it, and I still wonder, should they?

god no. all that's happening these days is entirely the fault of women and that proves they're incompetent and useless
total foid death

>>511041765 (OP)
Women should have the illusion of rights.
Society should be based on femdom where women look in control but are actually just fufilling the mans fanatasy.

>>511041765 (OP)
They have the right to not be abused. A pimp slap from the father/husband for degenerate behavior is not abuse.

the notion of inherent "rights" is really complicated and utter nonsense outside of theistic frameworks.

these entitlements we point to are just the reverse of inherent moral duties and obligations
"thou shalt not kill" ---> "we have a right to life"
"thou shalt not steal" ---> "we have a right to property and liberty"
"rejoice always, delight in the Lord" ---> "we have a right to the pursuit of happiness"

the right to life includes the duty to protect others
liberty must be exercised in love and service (Galatians 5:13)
happiness is not self-indulgent but living in alignment with God's will

these are easy to justify, then you have horseshit like
>right to bodily autonomy
>right to healthcare
>right to abortion
>right to housing
>right to a living wage
>right to internet access
which people just pull out of their butt with no justification

>>511041765 (OP)
>another NEET incel thread

if they do night have the might to defend those rights, they should not have rights

total foid death

>>511041765 (OP)
No. It is animal cruelty to put them into things they do not understand. Do you know of any other type of live stock besides women that we give rights to over men?

>>511041765 (OP)
>rights
loaded term
if we're oversimplifying: some rights for sure

>>511043518
foids should be considered breeding livestock, only breeding married foids should be considered to have some "rights", as a dog owned by someone has more "rights" than a stray mutt on the street does.

What is important is how the man feels

>>511043405
oh, animal rights is a great example and i'm pissed i didn't think of it.
most rabid PETA twinks are atheists.

A theist of the Christian persuasion can defend the notion that animals have inherent rights through the reversal of moral prescriptions like:
>Genesis 1:26-28 (humans have dominion over animals in a way that's referring to responsible care and stewardship rather than exploitation, we're to nurture creation and not dominate it destructively)
>Proversb 12:10 ("the righteous care for the need of their animals")

without these moral prescriptions, why shouldn't i be allowed to snap my dog's neck and eat it?

Alright let me rephrase. In an ideal society, knowing the consequences of female autonomy, what rights should women have?

>>511043649
I honestly don't have a problem with >5% of the females that can, and do, perform well in meritocratic environment, i.e. the work place.

but that's on a personal level. A legal framework that facilitate that in a manner that is more good than harm is going to be difficult.

bottom line: error to the side of safety, and don't allow them in, without specific well vetted exception.

>What is important is how the man feels
the opinion of man that cannot maintain professional conduct due to female behavior should be disregarded.

I don't think so. Look where this brand of "progress" has gotten us. The extension of the concept of human freedom to the opposite sex, minorities, and sexual deviants may have lead to the increased happiness of the individual, but it severely undermines the concept of social cohesion. Lefty collectivists support towing the line when it comes to the acceptance of new age social norms, whereas conservative collectivists seem to desire a return to a socially cohesive bottom line. The latter seems to be getting vindicated more and more by the day, given that more socially conservative ethnocentric societies have stronger social safety nets, more responsive governments, better regulation of international capital and finance, and lower crime rates. Look at the west right now. Zoom out. We are in a state of significant decline and decay all across the board. Is it because we decided to extend humanity and empathy to people who don't look like us? Maybe. But not in the way the "left" characterizes it. They're still human beings. But the cultures are at complete ends to each other. And the break down of wider societal cohesion benefits the super rich and those who seek to undermine and destroy another society to their own benefit.

>>511044165
life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, already justified above.
sexual access to her husband's body on demand. (1 Cor 7:3-4)
a say in family governance, so long as it aligns with the husband's final decision. mutual counsel is biblical but headship is non-negotiable.
the honor of being safeguarded by her male kind, as tradition and nature intended.
the right to bear and raise children without state interference.
protection from the vulgarity of wage slavery, as a woman's true labor is in the home. dignified feminine professions excluded (nursing, midwifery, modest family businesses excluded)
exemptions from the draft, jury duty and voting.

>>511044946
>male kind
*male kin

>>511041765 (OP)
As someone who speaks with women daily, no

I had sex once

so yeah, women shouldn't have rights

so... how do we roll it back? is there some sort of refund?

>>511044165
Right to not be abused, maybe right to own property, basically the rights before the 20th century, never ever the right to vote though, that's the worst thing