Can Romania really afford to spend billions on Israeli anti-air?

https://www.romania-insider.com/romania-israel-rafael-air-defense-deal-july-2025

>>511066756 (OP)
Their neighbour is currently getting pelted with missiles so before Russia decides that they are next they are going to go buy air defences from the people that have had by far the most practice at employing them.

>>511066756 (OP)
shooting down incoming missiles is a meme and they pretend it works 10x better than it does just to keep selling it

>>511066756 (OP)
it's funny because recently they gave austerity laws to increase taxes
i wish we had usa's constitution, especially regarding guns

>>511067270
>€2 billion on air defences
>or
>Many many times more than that rebuilding the rubble of your cities

>>511067414
who's going to attack us that we'd need shitty anti air that doesn't work

>>511067482
Take a guess retard.

>>511067551
Albania?

>>511066756 (OP)
Yes, Zigger

>>511067551
Russian people have a great love and affinity with Romania they would never harm them

>>511067607
The same people who are currently flattening Ukraine next door retard.

>>511067551
jews ?

>>511067743
Careful, you might have just done a zigger wrongthink.

>>511067551
>you need to pay billions because le putler will attack you TOMORROW
I'm so tired of ZOG, bros

>>511067875
>You need to be defenceless so that your belligerent neighbour who regularly invades their neighbours can freely attack you.

I hope we send them to Ukraine and kill more zigger trash

>>511067028
Russia has never attacked a NATO ally.

>>511067665
Do you have secret intel on an impending invasion you'd like to share with us? Lmao why Romania? You absolute goofy bastard

>>511068146
So that means that Romania can just not have a military because you and I will turn up and do all the work does it?

>>511068178
It's a bit late to start building up your defences after you have been invaded retard.

>>511067931
>belligerent neighbour who regularly invades their neighbours
slimy warmongering anglo-jew, I hope the nuclear torpedoes really do sink your trash-heap of an island. Just imagine how much Israel will profit from the reconstruction. The GDP will positively soar!

>>511068639
What exactly is warmongering about air defences retard?

>>511068456
yes that's why they beg us to pit bases on their territory. modern day protectorate.

>>511068770
This thread is about them buying military equipment retard.

>implying once the 3 day operation with ukraine ends putler is just gunna chimp out and go straight for romania

>>511068702
if you don't see what's wrong with your line of thinking, you don't deserve an explanation

>>511068910
>I don't have an argument so I will handwave vaguely at the mist

>>511067931
why do people think Putin would gamble on attacking NATO? That's retarded. He's not suicidal. The Ukraine war was actually something he could do because they weren't protected by the NATO alliance yet

>>511066756 (OP)
Kek butthurt belters are getting fleeced over their anti russian asshurt
That would be 2 billions+tip

>>511066756 (OP)
I don't have AC and even if i did the electrical grid couldn't handle it

>>511067270
This is basically just Jews in Romania convincing the government to give taxpayer money to Israel.

>>511068962
He wouldn't because of strong defences retard.

>>511067270
Just admit you are a coward

>>511068997
Wait until you find how many years of prison you get if you insult jews online

>>511066756 (OP)
Maybe a hot take, but if eskimos can still hunt whales or whatever because it's their culture, romanians should be allowed to strip empty houses of copper piping and wiring for cultural reasons

>>511068816
Who wouldn't want to rule such a rich land with such lovely peoples!

>>511068962
no one believed he would be retarded enough to invade Ukraine in 2022.

>>511069208
I hope Poland gets nuked

>>511069019
he wouldn't because he'd be forcing a real war between Russia vs 32 countries including the USA who can nuke them from random spots in the ocean 24/7.

>>511069208
The Ukraine is not bound by treaty to pull all the NATO countries into an officially-declared war with Russia. Attacking it not a fraction of as crazy as attacking Romania or even the Baltics would be

>>511067743
That's some Marek pretending to be Bob from Yorkshire voivodship trying to convince everyone that Russia is about to get them.
This is what they do while their women breed with niggers there.

>>511068516
>AND DEN DA RUSSIANS WILL INVADE AND DA PARATROOPERZ WILL FALL FROM DA SKY AND DA BIG SLOW-MO EXPLOSIONS EVERYWHERE LIKE MUH CALL OF DOODY WAAAOOOWW WOOOOOAH PSH PSH BOOOOM POP
How are you even cognizant enough to slide the little captcha bar into position?

>>511069048
you would be too if the government was gangstalking you and your family's every move
and yes they keep tabs on all eu citizens too not just romanians, as per kike orders from whomever is behind eu unelected swines
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanian_Intelligence_Service#Integrated_Information_System

>>511069599
So you're fine with you doing literally all of the work and spending all of the money to defend NATO then? Everybody other than you should just disband their armed forces and spend the money on healthcare or whatever?

>>511069716
Russia was absolutely not going to invade Ukraine until literally 5 minutes before they crossed the border retard.

>>511069807
We'll spend shitloads of money on our military whether Euros do or not because we want to be the strongest. Russia wouldn't attack even if Europe had NO military because it's afraid of American nukes and breaking the MAD balance preventing direct wars between nuclear powers that's been there for 80 years. A war with the US wont be good for anyone.
And Russia is in a very weak position to fight a big war right now, they've been using up their men and equipment for 3+ years rather than stocking up on it

>>511070361
Ok here's a scenario for you. Russia invades Eastern Europe. Europe has disbanded all their armies because apparently America will do it all. You *personally* are now getting drafted to die for us.

>>511067414
I did the math and Romania would have to borrow 6 billion before they had 2 billion dollars to lose on attacks

>>511070527
here's a scenario for you:
Russia randomly launches nukes at every western city and you are caught in one. You *personally* are now dead.

This means we must prepare for war with Russia.

Look I don't care if you build up your military, I just think this fear mongering is retarded and no different from Israel's sabre rattling about Iranian nukes. The premise of the whole thing is that the enemy leader is stupid, suicidal and insane. Which with Putin he may be a stupid thug but he's not suicidal or insane.
And we'd be doing all the work regardless

these weapons purchases are a continuation of the war racket, when Ukraine is done being consumed it will be on to Romania/Poland next, who might get baited into entering the war by French/German/Americans by being promised Odessa ( for Romania ) and Lviv ( for Poland ) to have them rush in and occupy Ukraine in a last-ditch effort to prevent total territorial collapse.
It is insane how much like a cheap whore Ukraine has been used, literally destroyed their own country to be used as a speedbump to try and wound Russia at the expense of their entire society.... the people who run our nations and affairs are all psychopaths that want us all bled and dead.

>15 posts by bongjeet
you are not getting any shekels from this sale you know

and yeah, this is just another form of funneling taxpayer money to israel

>>511071022
What do you think those air defence missiles can do retard?

>>511071082
Can you send qt hijabi girls that are rich and want to be sugar mommies?

>>511071139
not much, truth be told
Their effectiveness against ICBMs like nukes is extremely propagandized. Probably just to sell more of them. Israel says this here is a 90% interception rate

>>511071146
sure, coming right up

>>511071381
Shoot down ballistic missiles retard.

>>511071386
Glory be, I bow before my hijabi cute mommy

>>511071420
did you even read my post? I said it FUCKING SUCKS at shooting down ballistic missiles
retard

>>511071527
What do you think Israel has been shooting down this whole time retard?

>>511071564
35% of Iran's latest missile barrage got through.
More like the aluminum dome, kek.
(Or as you fags would say, al-yoo-min-ium)

>>511071564
lol you still didn't read the post >>511071381
there's a webm on it showing like 20 Iranian missiles getting through Israel's Iron Dome air defenses while like 3 of them are intercepted. Here is another one

You may find this hard to believe, but Israel lies about these kind of stats.

>>511071725
65% is a lot higher than 0% retard and I also think you have severely lowballed that number.

>>511071725
This system will add to the patriot and french samp

>>511067270
>especially regarding guns
just buy from the gypsies

>>511066756 (OP)
we wont pay for them.
Jews about to get jewed.

>>511071830
it's higher than 35% too
Almost all the missiles that WERE shot down were shot down on the 1000km journey from Iran to Israel by US bases throughout Iraq and the middle east, and US Navy ships. We wasted billions of dollars on these incredibly overpriced missiles.
Israel's air defenses were for when the missiles got close and as the webms show they were much less effective than Israel reported.

UK flag is 100% a kike

>>511067875
Is that why you're running their errand?

>>511072122
>Well it didn't shoot down 100% so you should just not bother shooting down any at all
You are literally this much of a moron.

>>511072309
No, we shouldn't try because it costs my country a lot of money and Israel deserves it, frankly.
Israel can try that shit all it wants but it's ineffective and heavily propagandized.
Why would anyone think shooting down fucking incoming missiles would be easy?
For hypersonic missiles it's even harder

>>511072157
JIDF aren't even trying anymore are they?
Also funny that they're selling US tech. The stereotypes are beyond belief.

>>511072819
How does Romania buying missiles cost you money retard?

>>511072967
I don't care if they do it either way, I just came here to say all this rearmament is being done to defend against something that has no chance of actually happening. And that shooting down missiles is a meme.

>>511073275
Then fuck off out of this thread retard.

>>511071564
cheap cruise missile analogues like the shahed.

>>511066756 (OP)
no, but the current establishment in europe knows that it's time is almost up, so they are using these last years to loot fucking everything that isn't nailed down

>>511066756 (OP)
They were defeated by Iran, why do you want to buy that garbage?

>>511073327
no u
I have contributed way more to this thread than you, you are just shilling the MIC

>>511073348
Iran has been throwing all sorts of stuff at them including MRBMs.

>>511071984
this, jews think they can outjew us ? lol , lets see how this ended up the last time

No. It's just debt slavery which forces then government to do what NATO and the bankers tell them to do.

They will get that NATO base on their territory whether they want it or not now. No government will get in the way of that.

>>511073474
>I came into a thread about a topic I apparently don't even care about
>I am somehow contributing
No you're not. You're just opening your noise hole and moaning.

>>511073476
yes and those get shot down at maybe 10%

>>511073712
Nah. Even at its worst it still has an interception rate of 65%. I repeat that is on a bad day. On a good day it's in the high 90s.

>>511066756 (OP)
Romania isn't as poor as it used to be, 2 billion is doable for them. USA is also propping them up as a forward deployment base in Black Sea and Balkan region.

>>511073557
>you're not allowed to comment on something unless it affects you directly
not my problem

>>511073873
holy shill

>>511073916
>I am going to come into a thread, start moaning about something completely unrelated and then start calling everybody shills

>>511067028
It'd be better to support the EU's own defense industry

>>511074005
air defenses are unrelated to this thread about air defenses?
I am just going to come into a thread to expose your retardation and call you alone a shill. Because you're a retarded shill

>>511074183
You are here to start bellyaching about paying for Israel when that has literally nothing whatsoever to do with this thread retard.

>>511073873
No one knows what the real interception success rate is, except the Israeli MoD, which is not an impartial source. In fact not even they might know, because of decoys. Anyone who pretends to know exact numbers is a shill

>>511070361
>Russia is in a very weak position to fight a big war right now
The next 'big war' is the end of advanced civilization. This is why NATO got completely caught off guard with arms manufacturing because no one thought a major land war would ever be possible again. All warfare would ever be is the kind of shit that was happening in the Middle East or Africa with proxy armies and advisors fighting each other.

>russians are afraid of american nukes
Do you know what MAD even means? It means everyone nukes everyone else. You aren't just getting nuked by Russia, you are getting nuked by China too.

>>511066756 (OP)
Well I'm going to Bucharest soon to look for prostitutes, so after I'll spend my money they could in theory give it back to Israel.

>>511066756 (OP)
>Can Romania really afford to spend billions on Israeli anti-air?

The new NATO grift is that euros have to pay minium 5% of GNP into military related things. In practice this means that we end up paying annual tribute to the US MIC in the form of overpriced weapons + expensive support contracts.

>>511067414
They will pay for both

>>511074274
I came here to say Russia would never attack NATO you blind faggot >>511068962
Arguments happen and conversations change subject

>>511074438
You're going back to the "You should just not defend yourself because Russia won't attack you for some reason" retardation?

>>511067270
Sorry but romanians are unreliable and cannot be trusted with guns, they always fought back against their corrupt governments and that is a big no, no. Here's some mici and manele to chill you down.

>>511074510
>for some reason
you are like 71 IQ

>>511074593
So would Russia not attack a defenceless Europe retard?

This is, allegedly, a density map of Bucharest where there are hot spots of prostitution across the city.
Can some Romanian confirm this?

>>511074683
>retard retard retard retard
expand your vocabulary, retard.

>would Russia not attack a defenceless Europe?
No. It would be declaring war against the United States. It would get bogged down into trench warfare immediately due to our navy and air force.
And rearmament can happen very rapidly. If they didn't take the whole continent in one or two seasons, they would we up against a tremendous war machine focusing all of their economies on war with Russia. They are outnumbered 7:to 1 against NATO countries, population wise.
The only way it could happen is if Putin was insane, stupid and suicidal.

>>511075217
I will stop calling you a retard when you stop being retarded. Given that you guys are right now moaning about having to pay to defend Ukraine (and Israel for that matter) why should we trust you not to just go "No. America first. No more money on foreign wars" if it came down to us?

>>511074811
anon, im just gonna tell you this, in the red spots they got ethic lessons from blessed Yakub who brought us the good word of Israel

>>511075217
>It would get bogged down into trench warfare immediately due to our navy and air force.
A war against the US and Russia would last 5 minutes for the nukes to hit their destination and then it's Mad Max. Your armchair general game about trenches and air forces is retarded.

>They are outnumbered 7:to 1 against NATO countries population wise
Your zogged shithole is spread across 3 theatres. If you were to put everything in Europe you lose Israel and Japan immediately. This wargame of NATO against Russia only in Europe worked in the 80s, not today.

>putin is insane and a thug and whatever
Coming from a country that enables and supports Israel and did the Vietnam War, you can't judge any nation's character.

>>511075446
Putin would be taking a very dangerous gamble in assuming we wouldn't honor the treaty the we are the architects and leaders of.
And they couldn't even beat a disarmed Europe (as it is today) alone; the Russians suck at war and all they have is drone spam. European NATO would just hold Putin off with American weapons + the combined small militaries they already have and re-arm rapidly until they counterattack and overwhelm him. But then stop short of making him surrender because he threatens with nukes. Making the whole thing pointless again.

>>511075574
Are all Romanians retarded, or do you just like to speak in riddles?
I'm going to be in Bucharest for three days before going to ascent the Moldoveanu and I want to have a good time in case a brown bear kills me.

>>511076195
Trump himself has floated leaving NATO. If the situation was quite literally Europe does not have any armies and is instead completely relying on America for defence I think America just cutting the string rather than spending blood and treasure on countries that are incapable of holding up their end of Article 5 and returning the favour would be near inevitable.

>>511066756 (OP)
how many jews they will trade for it this time?

>>511067414
Why do you care what happens in Eastern Europe? I do because it’s our back yard, but why do you care, Britanon? Are the Russians going to invade the UK even though they can’t even occupy Ukraine?

>>511076616
I am not keen on Russia being in Berlin again.

>>511076106
>A war against the US and Russia would last 5 minutes for the nukes to hit their destination and then it's Mad Max
anon was talking about if everyone pussed out on using nukes, for some reason (they probably would not use them, but nobody is willing to risk it) and it became a conventional war with MAD still in effect if someone dares to use nukes.

>Your zogged shithole is spread across 3 theatres. If you were to put everything in Europe you lose Israel and Japan immediately.
whos playing wargames again? None of those are theatres and we have no soldiers fighting anywhere now.
Nobody's invading Isreal because they have nukes and are trigger happy (more so than Putin even).
China lacks the testicles to risk MAD, and the testicles in general to start an aggressive war. They have no Vietnam or Iraq war equivalents and everything they take they take bloodlessly. They do hate Japan though

>Coming from a country that enables and supports Israel and did the Vietnam War,
>whataboutism
also I dont support any of that

>>511076460
Trump is a retard and he could do anything, nobody knows what he's thinking. I doubt he would ever really leave NATO, especially now that he's butting heads with Putin, but any other president wouldn't puss out

>>511076930
We have sat and watched you hum and haw, pull in and out of backing Ukraine. This means that we would be completely retarded to put our entire defence in your hands. You will mostly likely get tired of the war and pull out like you ALWAYS do.

>>511067028

> people that have had by far the most practice at employing them.

how did it go?

>>511077090
blame MAGA and Trump. Any other time in NATO history you wouldn't have a reason to worry. It's still very unlikely for Putin to take that risk though, especially right now while his military is somewhat depleted

>>511066756 (OP)
Yes they absolutely can. These are missile tested systems.

>>511077245
That's not a recent thing faggot. That is literally every war you have been involved in for about the last century.

>>511077305
nah

>>511077446
Why did you pull out of Vietnam again?

>>511076846
>Nobody's invading Isreal because they have nukes and are trigger happy (more so than Putin even).
As soon as your military can't fund them they are fucked.

>China lacks the testicles to risk MAD, and the testicles in general to start an aggressive war.
China was prepared during the Korean War to lose ten guys to take out one of yours. They have balls as big as the Vietnamese that beat you.

>They have no Vietnam or Iraq war equivalents and everything they take they take bloodlessly.
Two failed wars, millions of civilians dead, that's not something to be proud of.

>>511076195
>And they couldn't even beat a disarmed Europe (as it is today) alone;
So Ukraine is actually a proxy war for NATO which is your control over Europe, not them fighting for their independence. Good to know.

>European NATO would just hold Putin off with American weapons
This fantasy where you think that NATO vs Russia isn't nukes from the first moment is completely retarded.

>i doubt he'd leave nato because putin
That's exactly why you should leave NATO because your founding fathers told you not to get into foreign military alliances that risk your own country, but you won't because the point of NATO is to force Europe to do what you want not what's best for us.

>>511077468
because we were voluntarily fighting for demoralized, losing gooks on the other side of the planet for 15 years and they were drafting young men to do it. As opposed to honoring a treaty to defend the white homelands

>>511077810
You got tired of going to die for another country. America first, why should my tax money, blah blah blah. You do it every time. Fair enough it's not your country to die for but this also goes for us.

>>511077954
I dunno we managed to keep totally voluntary wars fought for stupid ass reasons for 20+ years. Like why did we ever give a shit about Iraqi freedom? And people voted for Bush again because they wanted to continue the war.
WW2 only lasted 5 years. Imagine if we had an actual good reason and they went full propaganda mode.

>>511078190
>Why would we care about Ukraine
>Why would we care about Romania
>Why would we care about Poland
>Why would we care about Germany
>Why would we care about France
>Why would we care about Britain
>America first! My tax money should be used to help Americans, not be used to bomb foreign countries!

>>511078408
you are taking miggers too seriously. They will die off soon

>>511078502
You are trying to argue that we should not defend our own countries because America will come over and defend them for us when this has literally never ended well for any country that actually did that.

>>511078502
>miggers too seriously
The only people who unironically support the Fox News neocon agenda in your country are the ones dying off. That's why Trump needed to lie about ending the wars to get into office.

Your country will become even more divided in the next 20 years as the white population gets to 30-40 percent and there is no attachment to Europe and no boomer brainwashing about Israel.

>ITT europeans that hate russia a tiny bit more than romanians pretend to care about romania or romanians

I cringed.. at least change your vpn..

>>511077675
>China was prepared during the Korean War to lose ten guys
Mao Zedong is an exception, the only exception. He let 50 million of his own people die in various ways, their lives meant nothing

>Two failed wars,
you're missing the point. We are belligerent and practice war frequently. China is meek and does not really do that at all. They will probably take over Taiwan and Australia but they will do it diplomatically, in x decades

>So Ukraine is actually a proxy war for NATO which is your control over Europe
kind of. You didn't know this?

>This fantasy where you think that NATO vs Russia isn't nukes from the first moment is completely retarded.
the exact opposite. The fantasy where they would immediately launch nukes against nuclear armed European NATO alone (UK and France have them) is completely retarded and informed based on Hollywood movies.

>>511066756 (OP)
Goymany and Frenchcucks will pay for it

>>511066756 (OP)
easy to explain
romania came under great scruitiny due to the elections and other stuff and are now on the brink of a massive recession with prices going rampant
so the only solution that they came up with was to suck massive Jewish dick by pandering to Jews wholesale, like the whole corups of the official country news channel is overrun with news about Israel and the alleged "Romanian-Israel" friendship
however historically Romania has even been reticient about returning stolen property from the Jews that the communists confiscated with yearly reports since communism that would highlight they were still clinging onto them and not wanting to return them
with that in mind, Romania are shilling like mad right now because they're in deep doo-doo
just a word of caution with Romania, it's not the country you might think it is, with very deep ties to Russia due to former commies that are still in power or have passed down power to their chldren yet are following the exact same policies and way of doing things

>>511074563
>they always fought back
since when?!
the very same people in power now are direct descendants or associates of the former commies
you never fight back anything, you're bitches, the only thing you'd fight would be "students" and old people in nursing homes, you're apex bootlickers
there's no dick too large that you can't suck
even in this thread, it's Israel's dick, which you have for like the past two years with constant pandering hoping they'll help you slosh over transgressions
you are literal underdogs that haven't rebelled against anything in your lives!