If you have any land that can be used for growing food, you should be loading it up with perennial crops that will reward you with bountiful crops for years and years. It's a small upfront investment with a huge payoff.

Food insecurity is already affecting many of you and that trend is likely to only worsen for the next several years as WWIII ramps up. A few fruit trees/bushes/vines could save your life.

>>511075889 (OP)
>If you have any land
yeah, all the apartments come with some crop land man

>>511076834
If you have South facing windows, you can grow things indoors.
Citrus fruits, for instance, are known to produce stupid amounts of fruit when grown in pots.

>>511075889 (OP)
It's tough fucking work for a fat bastard like me, but I like the idea.

>>511076936
You'll get a lot less fat if you're burning some calories and eating things that are actually *good for you*. Your body won't be telling you to EAT EAT EAT if you get the nutrients you need.
Download a calorie counter on your phone and just do the math. You can easily lose 2 lbs per week without your skin getting super flabby. That's over 100 lbs in a year.

>>511075889 (OP)
>perennial crops
english is such a weird language
how do you even understand each other?

>>511077084
I'm French, so it's basically just speaking backwards, to me.

>>511077082
Yeah, I used to be fit and all that before corona, but then everything fucked up and I never got back on track. I also dated a lot of cunts just before corona, but that blackpilled me hard on women, and now I don't feel like I have an incentive to be fit.
>do it for yourself
So I can suffer on this hellhole planet for even longer than I have to? Naah, I'm good. Hopefully, I have less than 20 years left with my current habits. There's no future for any of us.

>>511077123
ok
what are good perennial crops to have?

>>511077123
Le sproc lainnerep?

>>511077308
It's not a question of how long you live but your quality of life. You don't remember how much better being healthy feels.

Seriously, it's just a bit of math. You'll figure out really quickly what's worth eating or not based on how sated you feel vs how much of your caloric budget it is. If you want something to just fill your stomach, get some pickles.

>>511077368
It really depends on your hardiness zone.
It's generally recommended you get stuff that can survive one zone up and one zone down from yours, just so you don't have to worry about getting a cold winter or hot summer and ruining your garden. Bear in mind that some plants are perennials, but grown as annuals in certain climates.

If you're just getting started, I'd recommend you go with some berry bushes as those tend to give you a good amount of fruit starting in the third year.

>>511077630
ok berries are fine
but I dont think they really give much calories, right?
we would need something like potatoes that really make you full, dont you think?

>>511077308
You don't get to complain about jews if you're a hedonistic fat fuck. "Balackpilled". Kek. CHRISTIANITY is blackpilled. Satan is in control of the world by deisgn and no one can stop it. that's blackpilled. YOU are just a jewed out faggot with no self control, lmao. You decided your eternal soul isn't worth shit because YOU FELL FOR IT.

>>511077776
Potatoes are annuals, but they're very easy to do with the "no till" method, so they're not a bad option for a lazy gardener.
There are a lot of other nutrients that you won't get from potatoes, though. Having as varied a diet as possible is ideal.

If you're limited in space, you may want to consider growing a tree, planting a vine that'll climb the tree and then some bushes to fill in the space around the tree, but under the canopy. You could even have a tree that has multiple different fruit cultivars grafted to it, so one branch makes plums, one makes cherries, one makes apricots and one makes almonds.

>>511075889 (OP)
I have a full acre of sugar cane, a half dozen mature producing orange/grapefruit trees. Eight mature chickasaw plums. Eight young chickasaw plums. Eight mature mayhaws. Eight young southern crab apples. A few pomegranates a few fig trees. A big mature pear tree. About 30 feet of blueberry bushes, about 50 mature pecans trees.

I could combine all the fruit and nuts from those through the course of a year and I would still get 1/1000th of the fruit I can pick wild from the woods like persimmon, grape, maypop, wild plums, and brambles and thats not even half of it.

>>511078230
>the "no till" method
whats that?

>>511075889 (OP)
>perennial crops
there aren't a whole lot of those that can sustain you long term.

>>511077630
I eat somewhat healthy. I just move too little, cause I've grown lazy. I've stopped caring, honestly. Got nothing to live for. Neet, no gf, few friends, but they're often busy. I don't even enjoy drinking alcohol anymore.

>>511078048
I don't care.

>>511079138
Oh I forgot I have a mature peach as well. The truth is that most of this just gets turned into wine or rots on the ground. It's too much to pick tbqh. The rows of native fruit trees are really just there for the blooms in the spring.

The sugar cane I dont even do anything with 99% of it... I just keep cutting it down every year and making new rows with it idk why I even do it tbqh its just a compulsion at this point.

>>511079207
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJLdLFv6w6o

Exactly what it sounds like. No tilling.

>>511079389
You can't outrun your fork. If you're fat, it's always diet that's the #1 cause. You can be skinny even if you do no exercise.

>>511079282
>long term
Dehydrate and make preserves.
If you like making jam, I strongly recommend the red currants. They have a ton of pectin.

>>511079763
What really matters is the fat content. The fruits are just sugar and calories which is fine but the fat is what would be hard to come by in one of these larp scenarios.

That's why pecan is king imho. I dont grow plants though for some pepper shit tbqh I just like plants.

>>511079984
Nuts are great, but I don't grow them right now because someone in my family is allergic.
There are all sorts of cool nuts that you can't buy at the store that you should look at, though.

Ever had a heartnut or butternut?

back in the old east germany many people put a lot of love into their gardens because convenience stores only offered shitty garbage to eat + it was one of the few ways to make money in a commie world. my grandpa had like 60 bushes, 30 fruit trees of all kinds (also nuts) and a little field for veggies.

if you do it properly there is something ripe all the time. when something goes out of season something else gets in season. i feel bad for people who grew up without a real garden, you missed what life is about. few things can take you as close to nature as eating stuff straight from the field + the taste is so much better than anything you could buy

i highly recommend bushes / berries of all kinds. extremely easy to grow + you practically cant buy them in super market, super expensive and spoils instantly

>>511076834
>living in an apartment
that's your own fault

>>511080528
Look at the price of aronia berries.
I got my plant for 20 bucks.

>>511079763
thank you
so you know if you can actually make money growing potatoes?

>>511075889 (OP)
I moved to Austin TX and their are wild grapes growing all in the woods. Like hundreds of pounds of them right outside my apartment. I can stand on my balcony and just pick as many as I want.

>>511080730
I mean, yes. It's possible. You can buy potatoes at the store because people do exactly that.
What I'm suggesting is you grow the things you can't necessarily buy at the store because they're either prohibitively expensive or just simply not available.

You won't find pawpaws at the grocery store, for instance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUy2O3qDT8I

>>511080396
I mean here pecan is sort of a foundation orchard plant. In the woods your various hickories all produce tons and tons of nuts but they dont taste great. The swamp chestnut oaks actually make a decent tasting acorn but again it would be very hard to compete with a good pecan. Hell pecan basically IS a hickory tbqh.

>>511080528
All year? No. But you can get pretty close I guess. For me it goes
>Dewberry
>Blackberry
>Chickasaw Plum
Gap
>Blueberry
>Maypop
>Mayhaw
>Fig
>Pear
>Peach
>Gap
>Wild grape
Gap
>Persimmon
>Pecan
>Sugar cane
>Citrus
Gap until next spring

>>511081067
I'm hopeful the American Chestnut hybridization project turns out well.

>>511076936
It's not even hard work.
Growing Jerusalem Artichokes, for example, just requires planting the fuckers and ignoring them after the initial watering.

>>511081067
Hickory nuts are alright for mild pain relievers (arthritis for example). Just crack em and boil them at a simmer for 15 minutes then drink the water.

Willow bark is better though. It contains Salicin. Either chew on it for awhile or make it into a tea like hickory nuts. The artificial for of Salicin is Asprin, so treat it the same if you got issues with Asprin.

>>511083580
You can also use bitter lettuce as a pain killer.

>>511080629
aronia tastes like shit though?