New evidence from various studies have shown that Rurik who is accepted to have started the Russian civilization was in fact not Scandinavian, but a Ukrainian man and that Eastern European civilization started in Ukraine and then moved forward to present day Russia and not the opposite way from Scandinavia.
Russians as usual have had control of history writing it to their own benefit but now that Ukraine has been independent they have been disproving this false history.
It is one of the biggest resons why Russia invaded Ukraine, to hide and destroy evidence of Ukraine being older than Russia.

>turns out this guy from Virgina
>was actually from WEST Virginia
One of the most minute distinctions of all time is Russian vs. Ukranian.

>>511101190
Not at all similar. Ukrainians are one of the most ancient people in Europe if you look at the work of Yuri Shilov and Volodymyr Bilinskyy. Russians lie and steal their history when Russians are actually some primitive neanderthal tier subhumans who sat in Muscovy bogs and attacked civilization.

>>511101334
>see this guy from Alabama?
>he's 100% fuckin' different from this person who came from Georgia
ok sure

>>511101390
Not a valid comparison.

>>511101086 (OP)
The Ukraine has become such a joke.

No one is trying to falsify the history between Alabama and Georgia. Russians on the other, have tried to falsify history of Ukraine and Russia throughout history - read the work of Volodymyr Bilinskyy.

>>511101086 (OP)
>>511101086 (OP)
Ukrainians didn't exist back then
Rurik was a Viking

>>511101533
>actually, if you think about it, the culture of south and north carolina are distinct
lol ok

>>511101814
Read the research by Yuri Shilov, Rurik was a Ukrainian man not a viking.
Shilov and the New Ukrainian Historical Society proved this during one of their digs. Yuri Shilov has discovered many things during his archaeological expeditions.

>>511101086 (OP)
Yeah yeah, Jesus was ukrainian as well, we've been hearing this shit for years now.

>>511101086 (OP)
Literally doesn't matter. There's so few Ukrainians and so many Russians. It's like America and Mexicans. By all rights, Mexicans should never have been allowed back in America, but now they're here and there's too many to practically remove without war.

>>511101086 (OP)
Not something to be proud of.

Bulgarians make fairytales like this too

>>511101086 (OP)
Cope. He was Norse.

>>511102881
Disproven by Yuri Shilov's work and the research of the New Ukrainian Historical Society.

>>511101086 (OP)
>New evidence from various studies have shown that Rurik who is accepted to have started the Russian civilization was in fact not Scandinavian, but a Ukrainian
Stopped reading here

>>511103541
Then why did gene research on the remnants found at the ancient burial site of "scandinavian" warriors from the Lviv Biogenetics Institute show that the DNA was consistent with Ukrainians and not vikings?

>>511101086 (OP)
>>511101334
Damn Ukrainians must be literal retard niggers to let their whole civilization get stolen by neanderthal orcs from Muscovy

>>511103454
>New Ukrainian Historical Society
>>511103739
>Lviv Biogenetics Institute
lol

>>511103454
Surely they can be trusted

>>511103939
Yuri Shilov is also a former director of the instititute of Proto Ukrainian civilizational studies, just because these organizations are not in Moscow does not make the research less true.

>>511103739
It sounds like fake research pushed by the CIA and State Department and Israel... I notice that you haven't posted any of the actual research. Probably because it's garbage.

Ukraine isn't a nation, it's not even a people any more. It's part of Russia, and what isn't will be filled with pajeets and niggers and Israelis.

And it's Lemberg. Not Lviv or Lwow or whatever.

>>511103783
The problem that ancient Ukrainians were too peaceful. They just wanted to create art and civilization and were not prepared to fight a war which is why Russians who were barbarians harnessed by the mongols like rabid dogs on a leash managed to ransack ancient Kyiv, a scholarly city.

>>511101086 (OP)
My uncle was the county coroner in Benton County, WA for over 50 years. He invented the method used now to identify "desert mummies".
Back in the day the park service brought him some remains which he identified as being from a white couple in their 30's.
Except, bzzt, the bones turned out to be ancient and therefore must be Injuns.
Except double bzzt, turns out they were 12,000 years old, older than the land-bridge migration.
Nowadays, you can get thrown out of academia for saying my uncle was right, or given eleventy bajillion dollars in grants for calling him a racist.
Always, double always, consider the source.

>slavniggers were so pathetic they couldn't found their own country

>>511101086 (OP)
Yeah, the issue here us there are several byzantine sources that describe the russ as norse. Several of the treaties list many russ individuals and they have old norse names.

I'm sure there were a bunch of Slavic elites and the architecture was Slavic and the russ took Slavic women and became Slavic over time and all that, but this clearly looks to be revisionist history, similar to the aryans out of India nonsense.

>>511104829
We Wuz Varangians n shieeeet

t. Penis Propyenko

>>511101086 (OP)
We wuz tsars

>>511101086 (OP)
"new evidence"

so abject lies, got it