Toyota is up +8% on the news of a 15% tariff.

Why?

It's simple.

Ford, GM, Tesla, and all the other American manufacturers are going to be paying 50% more for their steel, 50% more for their copper, 25% more for their Canadian production, 25% more for their Mexican production, and 55% on their Chinese production.

Toyota only has to pay 15% more and they're done with all the shenanigans.

Ford has to pay much more than that. A lot more in fact.

Japanese car company now have an even bigger advantage over American car companies.

All in hope of bringing auto jobs back to America.

The art of the deal, 0D Chess.

>>511101387 (OP)
i don't care i can't afford a new car let alone gas and insurance anyways. I hope everything burns to the ground.

Yes, that's right, goy, draw erroneous conclusions about how the world works from our magic numbers

Japan just cut a huge deal with America to help their tariff issue out.

>>511101596
That's exactly what this thread is about.

>>511101387 (OP)
> H1Belon and the (((UAW))) getting fucked
I voted for this

>>511101387 (OP)
Are you fucking stupid?

It’s because now they know there won’t be anything more than a 15% tariff in japoanese cars.

The USA can now sell its cars in Japan without Japanese disincentives (fees, taxes McCain extra regulations). And we PRODUCE OUR OWN STEELE AND ALUMINUM

We do not “need” Canadian metal, American cars will be built fully in America

>>511101965
>American cars will be built fully in America
By robots, in autonomous factories. No jobs, no money to buy the poor quality cars.

>>511101387 (OP)
I don't care. All those faggot countries can burn while American industry thrives.

>>511101521
Trump is an idiot, he thinks if he tariffs a country, that country is giving the US money, when in reality, it means the US companies are paying more to import from those countries.

>>511101674

Oh?

>>511102038
>technology makes us poorer

That’s stupid by this logic we shouldn’t have engines or electricity or any machines because they eliminate jobs

No wait that isn’t what happens and never has happened you shit for brains faggot retard,

What actually happens is now a factory that used to employ 3000 Asian slaves will employer 300 skilled American workers getting paid good wages and the owners have less overhead.

This is literally the dream where individuals or families could own the actual means of production and have largely automated factories providing enormous income to them

Please just sit down and stop saying things you are too stupid

>>511102185
We dont need to import from any country that’s the point

If they want to sells to the American market (the largest consumer market in the world by a factor of 4) they will pay the tariff to do so

>>511101387 (OP)
You are a fucking idiot. Did you look up where Toyota of America cars are made? Here’s a hint. I make the Toyota bumpers for three different models in southwest Ohio.

>>511102071
He’s simply wrong, the Japanese have thrown all sorts of restrictions on American products for decade which are now gone

His concern that somehow American car companies will be out competed but Toyota is also stupid since most jap cars are built in America anyway

He’s a dumb kraut probably a Turk

German cars are good for maybe 25,000 miles then they fall apart. Hitler never would have put the starter under the intake.

>>511101387 (OP)
That's cool but you don't seem to understand the logic of tariffs, it's to bring back fairness. USA has been taken advantage off in several sectors and now it's more fair.

>>511102345
The ENTIRE point that the tariffs were sold on was to bringing back factories and bring back jobs. Enriching small numbers of already wealthy people is the real point. Wow 300 workers? Better make a fuckton of factories.
There is no plan to reduce the extreme wealth gap that exists, only plans to make it even larger.

>>511102426
Get back to work waggie. Chop. Chop. Break time is over.

>this entire thread will be shills and useful idiots tossing misinformation and disinformation back and forth
>valid factual replies will be smeared and/or disregarded
It's all so tiring.

>>511102862
You are stupid anon, if we have hyper efficient largely automated factories that means we can pump pit more goods for more people at better prices that wealthy circulates within the country

You don’t actually understand how this works because you are a dumb commie

>>511103143
>better prices
Only in your dreams. How many decades for these better prices to come? Because everything is still going up.

>>511103258
Every day goods aroudn you are cheaper the problem was to achieve this our elite shipped in cheap slave labor or outsourced it to Asia (for slave labor)

In the 1950’s and 1960’s wages surpassed inflation, the average adult at 30 could expect to out earn his father be married with 2 kids and have a car

It’s because relatively spending his wages were super high.

That’s the goal. If we didn’t have fiat currency then actually mass production would road to DEFLATION, which the Jews absolutely do not want but we will get there

Stop thinking like a commie, the world and wealth isn’t 0 sum, it’s not becuse there isn’t enough to go around its becuse the people in charge sold you and me and our people out for cheap gains

>>511101387 (OP)
Trump is an idiot and >>511101965
is his personal cum guzzler

>>511103518
>In the 1950’s and 1960’s wages surpassed inflation
And the rich were taxed at like 90%.
> its becuse the people in charge sold you and me and our people out for cheap gains
And now you WORSHIP the figurehead of the most evil vile fuckers that made his life on selling people out. These megacorps making $50 billion state of the art autonomous mega factories are NOT going to sell you a cheap product. Cheap in quality, yes. Cheap in price, no.

>>511101387 (OP)
It was pretty clear early on that Tariffs weren't designed to onshore or revitalize Mainstreet US.
It's just simply extra revenue for the Government. Sure you might have some headlines here or there but it's nothing of substance. So instead of onshoring or whatever, just invest in stonks/crypto. It's alot easier, instead of working in a factory you just left click buy/sell.

>>511103538
Oaky tranny you lost you can go away now

>>511102408
No they won't. American companies will simply be paying more. As has always been the case.

>>511103704
Omg you fucking people are so close but so far

How does a high income tax make YOU better off? It doesn’t, nobody ever paid 90% it applied to JD Rockefeller only and the tax code had huge write offs that’s why radio city music all exists and universities have names like Vanderbilt and Carnegie


It’s hot about the marginal income tax dude that doesn’t fucking matter it’s anti wages vs cost

>muh big corpos

Are the same sick fucks selling you on democrat policies you docile little sheep

>>511101965
>The USA can now sell its cars in Japan
no one buys our trash vehicles outside of USA
hell even Americans don't buy them

>>511103735
Pay more for what?

Inflation hasn’t gone up at all

>>511103865
Oh NO! They made music halls and universities instead of using it to literally buy the government? OH NO!!!! NONONO
Your dear leader just gave massive tax breaks to all those big corpos at your expense, with your money.

>>511103894

Yeah well see about that bitch

>>511101387 (OP)
Toyota also didn't gobble up the horseshit electric vehicle green agenda in its entirety. Not so long ago they were laughed at for not "going with the times".

>>511104048
Yea he also renewed the payroll tax break we were already getting and codified no tax on overtime up to $12,500 a year. Suck my dick you fucking shill

>>511101387 (OP)
>Toyota is up +8% on the news of a 15% tariff.
>Japanese car company now have an even bigger advantage over American car companies.
Please nips, release a naturally aspirated V6 MX-5 Miata

>>511101387 (OP)
>Toyota is up +8% on the news of a 15% tariff.
>Why?

Because they already have plenty of factories in the United States so they don't have to pay the tariff.

>>511102038
>all jobs are car manufacturing
you're a dumb gorilla nigger
the poor won't even need to _buy_ cars with what we're going to have. the cybercab, waymos, zoox, etc. are going to completely rewrite the rules of (sub)urban trainsportation in this country and there's nothing the rest of the world can do about it. car ownership will be a luxury, but not because nobody can afford it, but because the mass of people who would rather not own a vehicle at all will simply forego the expensive of their own accord.

>>511102185
>so globalizationbrained that you can't fathom the idea of indigenous production
no wonder this country's business class is so bad at actually building things now. you've outsourced even your thinking to the rest of the market (who can and will take advantage of you)

>>511103704
>And the rich were taxed at like 90%.
Do you also intend to level China, nuke Japan, and firebomb Europe. No one paid that 90%.
>>511104048
>They made music halls and universities instead of using it to literally buy the government?
With taxes you pay the government. With music halls and universities the government pays your tax dodges billions. These tax dodges can soak the government for decades and transfer money to entire families. It's how the Clinton's took in billions of $$$ but never said bribe.

>>511104048
They did that to avoid the 90% tax rate you dumb cunt

>>511104382
i mean they do still import a number of parts for those factories.
You know i wonder if the 15% tariff over-rides the chicken tax.

>>511104444
Nah i don't wanna nuke Japan, they came out alright the last time no point in risking a 2nd time

>>511101965
>American cars will be built fully in America
LOL fell for it again award infinity mode

>>511103894
This. What burger car is Japan going to buy? Maybe sell a few Mustangs from japs that watched dubbed Happy Days reruns.

>>511102038
>>511101387 (OP)
Great news for the non-Americans he's putting to work at car companies, tech companies, etc.

Just keep pretending he's keeping his campaign promises goy.

> Lock her up
> Build the wall
> Release Epstein files and charges
> No more wars (bombs Iran) more aide to Jewkrain
> Creates a framework to fast track illegals into citizenship
> Deports meaningless numbers.
> Etc. etc.

>>511101387 (OP)
Don't care, new cars are for faggots and retards.

>>511101387 (OP)
The japs build a lot of cars here in the US low iq op

>>511104558
Yes actually the USA is still the #2 manufacturing power in the world, we relative to our gdp our amount of foreign trade is low (it’s just large for everyone else)

>>511104036
>Inflation hasn’t gone up at all
Tariffs don't increase the money supply, They are distortionary. For example if you can't afford a 150% markup on a Chinese TV, you don't buy the TV. If you do, that takes up your discretionary spending elsewhere.
I actually think the inflation narrative applied to the tariff is purposeful deceit. It's the primary reason the FED hasn't cut rates yet, and it's likely to exacerbate an economic downturn when it comes.. like very bad downturn. It's how the Great Depression started, FED remained tight for too long going into an economic downturn. However, all is not just rosy and rainbows if the FED does cut, if they do cut then you'll see a resurgence in asset inflation, wealth inequality then broad based inflation. So we're fucked either way.

>>511104599
>2016 news article
I don't doubt it, but at least show something from this year not 9 years ago, you filthy memeflaggot kike

>>511101387 (OP)
Ford only makes one car.
Everything else is shit.
Ford can die.

>>511104687
>the USA is still the #2 manufacturing
This and manufacturing has been absolutely gutted over the last 60 years
Really puts into perspective what an industrial power house America was

>>511104687
Not a refutation, but alright. Any spare space on your chest for another award?

>>511101387 (OP)
Toyota is more American than Ford. Not only does Toyota build more cars in America they also employ more American workers.

>>511101387 (OP)
Calm down. Toyota sources a lot of its parts from the same place as all the other mfrs. likewise, American mfrs will often source their parts from Japan (think engines). Toyota might get a slight edge having a large infrastructure already in place in the US but they all benefit from lowered tariffs. Also- the mfrs pass the costs on to the customer in terms of inflated costs.

>>511104582
tesla

>>511101387 (OP)
majority of toyotas sold in the US are made in the US

>>511104099
Have you ever been outside of America? You'd know many Americans cars cant squeeze through ancient roads in Europe and Asia, they constantly overheat in the middle east, and are too expensive to be sold in Africa. The only moderate success outside of America is mainly Mexico and South America, Even then, its mainly cartels buying pickup trucks.

When the CIA was providing training and equipment for islamic insurgencies in the middle east, not even they give them American trucks. The CIA gave them Land Cruisers and Hilux trucks, never bothered them with a single silverado or f-150 to test out. U.S. military contracts constantly complain about not being able to use Land Cruisers, forced to use Chevys and Fords.

>>511105084
Not even joking, that's the only thing they buy besides a handful of jeep wranglers.

>>511105138
1. I’ve been all over the world
2. The only places with tiny streets are old cities in Europe and maybe Tokyo most of Asia and the Middle East have modern roads

I live in fucking Arizona, the Middle East doesn’t overhear cars you spastic lying queer you should be thrown from a roof

>>511105138
America has factories building American cars (some models which aren’t even available to us in America) that are spec’d out to the country they are manufactured for. The Ford Taurus built for the German market was far superior to our domestic model. I’ve seen quite a few rh steering American models built for the roads in East Asia.

>>511105334
Usually American specs is what we use to exclude some of the finest cars from reaching our shores. Stuck with the same bullshit year after year when there are far superior models out there to choose from.

>>511105073
Interestingly as per the CPI report New cars actually declined in June, Used cars are still up though. The big issue is insurance.
Insurance is only about 2.8% of the CPI weighting, the issue is that since June of last year it's up 50 basis points (from 830 to 880 using the 1982 = 100 basis)
It's the second highest increase in the basis after Tobacco/Smoking products (1600 basis points but it's less than .5% of the CPI weighting)

>>511101387 (OP)

I think the idea is to create a niche for american steel, but that takes a long time. We can't just summon steel mills into existence on the drop of a hat, even with a government backed moonshot program to reindustrialize.

Tariffs are sometimes treated as a panacea or a cure all but historically its played out different.

I know for Brazil, which had really high car import tariffs...the idea was to protect their domestic car industry but their cars were shit.
What happened for them is their domestic car company didnt feel the need to compete because nobody could possibly afford the import cars so its possible for a really shitty domestic car to become even shittier. Keep in mind though Brazil in a country that has had multiple currency failures.

Trump is pretty much just sayin fuck it with tariffs, could work in the long run, but by the time he's out of office someone else will just undo it.

>>511101387 (OP)
I hate the market right now. The endless upward momentum its so fucking fake. They boost everything with European open. They need a frwction of the shares purchased during the previous days trading session to gap up hundreds of billions

>>511101387 (OP)
You fucking retard. My small business processes over 100 tons of steel annually. Fully 50% of that was US steel before the tariffs. Do you know what that means? It means we were already competitive and there is no reason for US suppliers to suddenly gouge me for 50% because their competition just got fucked, particularly when orders and terms have already been agreed upon. You don't know shit about how this is going to play out because the media is a bunch of faggots parroting the lines of middlemen who are about to lose their gift. Canada, China, et al are about to eat shit hard and in many cases already are. CMC and/or Nucor can spin up a few more mini mills processing our own scrap instead of shipping it to Chicoms and collapse those niggers whenever they get ready. You don't know shit faggot and I'm sick of hearing this stupid shit from "tax on the consumer" NPC fucking fucktards.

>>511105945
Same thing is happening in housing. Insurance has become more prohibitive to home ownership that a high mortgage. There’s a huge inventory of homes available in Florida, but ever rising coverage for them is preventing sales.

>>511106285
Difference is that fuck tards building in risky areas is on them. Why the fuck is car insurance up so much when the price of the cars they are insured against is up half as much. I mean the answer is obviously lawyers.....

>>511105945
>Interestingly as per the CPI report New cars actually declined in June, Used cars are still up though. The big issue is insurance.
If they're buying 2015 or newer then they're ticking time bombs. I've watched a few videos on YT about the insane costs to repair something like a transmission (8-15k) on some models and its not affordable for to almost anyone. These cars are disposable. Was it Chevy that recently recalled like every truck that made in the last 10 years due to motor failure at sub 50k? If you're an independent mechanic, you have to use very specific computer hardware to diagnose these newer vehicles. Even if you know what the issue is, you still have to buy the computer that will code the car once you've fixed it. Those computers are upwards of 300k apparently, and then you have to pay a yearly fee (30k) to keep the software updated. No one outside of a dealership can work on the majority of these cars, independents are froze out due to the costs. If any anons go by their local junkyard you will be amazed at how many vehicles are sitting there to be parted out that in some cases look like they rolled off the showroom floor. They are there because something so catastrpohic happened to them internally that it would be cheaper in the long run just to buy another car.

>>511106395
This would presumably be the issue with health services being up so much as well thinking on it.

>>511106395
it's lawyers and illegals. Someone has to pay for Pacos drunk driving.

>>511101965
Japanese people won't buy American cars no matter how cheap you make them. Have you seen what cars they actually drive there? Tiny little 0.4 Liter city cars that American companies don't even make.

>>511106395
Because we cover both high risk drivers and cars located in high risk areas. Sadly, because of its age , I don’t get Jack for my car if I get in a wreck- I literally pay $50 to have it towed and buy another ragged pos. That doesn’t prevent me from having to pay coverage for my neighbors highly modified $70k truck he engages in risky behavior with.

>>511106101
>I know for Brazil, which had really high car import tariffs...the idea was to protect their domestic car industry but their cars were shit.
BYD is flooding their market right now. Brazil opened the door and its very hard to close it now. China currently has something like 100 car makers, completely unsustainable. What happens when those car companies start folding and your car won't start due to some kind of software corruption and that company is long gone. You're fucked.

https://youtu.be/dtykunbDiFg

>>511101387 (OP)
https://global.toyota/en/company/profile/facilities/manufacturing-worldwide/north_america.html
Am I reading this wrong or is op retarded?

>>511105334
I was out in Kuwait for a few years, it really is a different level of hell in terms of heat. Also, because the middle eastern (GCC) roads are built by pajeets, the city blocks are also supper narrow and poorly built. I almost feel bad for them. They get unlimited oil money to build futuristic cities, but only for them to hire pajeet slaves to build shitty roads.

Also, it's not just inner city roads, it's also the fact most places outside America don't have big garages or long driveways. You're dealing with short overhead garages, street parking, or a small courtyard with a small one (sometimes two) slot garage. Not to mention many countries charge their vehicle tax by displacement of the engine. Which disadvantages American cars too.

>>511105935
>exclude some of the finest cars from reaching our shores
The fact we never got the the ford cosworth in the U.S. and heads didn't roll, is a really tragedy.

>>511106518
Bought a 2025 Kia Soul and the battery died after like 300 miles.... been fine since then but i've only had the car for 8 months. I'm currently at 3.5k miles and have dealership insurance for 30k~ miles (or something like that) and will have the car paid off sometime next year, Once the cars paid off I'll be throwing money in directions that print more money such that by the time the car finally craps out in like a decade when i'm still under 50k miles i don't really give a shit and just buy a new car that won't crap out on me for longer.

>>511106773
And on
https://www.andersonwebertoyota.com/toyota-manufacturing-in-the-u-s/

>>511106825
And on
https://electrek.co/2025/02/05/toyota-opens-first-ev-battery-plant-in-us-but-theres-more/

>>511106824
>Bought a 2025 Kia Soul and the battery died after like 300 miles
Thats fucked up, maybe just leave it in a nigger part of town and let them Kia Boys do what they do and get the insurance.

>>511101965
you are so fucking dense lmaooo, nips will never ever buy your shitty cars, hell, even YOU don't buy them, because you know how garbage they are.
You just got SHABBO'D.

>>511101596
japan is a dying nation.

>>511106895
and I'll stop now
https://pressroom.toyota.com/charged-up-toyota-west-virginia-invests-88-million-in-new-hybrid-transaxle-line/

>>511103143
One day you will be poorer and I hope you reflect on this conversation

>>511104447
Isn't that better? To incentivize the rich to better society as a whole rather than the current fuckjob/suckjob setup?

>>511106971
>japan is a dying nation.

>>511106565
What are you babbling about? Not all Japanese drive kei cars- that’s usually something younger people or practical people do. Middle class general have a nice business sedan (or a good sized van for family use) and a kei car to run local errands in. There are plenty of corvette, old jeep, and sporty car fans. You’ll catch occasional retro cars there as well. The thing about Tokyo is that are opened up to a world market so we have a lot of competition outside of America.

>>511103143
When we have 1000 car factories employing 300000 americans, then we will be free. You fucking maroon.

>>511103143
I like you. You're helping me get what I want.

Soory but
https://www.hotcars.com/forget-suvs-toyotas-next-off-roader-minivan/
Had to point out this will probably sell A LOT in japan and then north america, people living in cars etc.

>>511102596
Do you not know where Toyota put the starter for their 4.7 V8s?

>>511107353
toyota is japanese, not german

>>511106783
We couldn’t get ahold of a base model Skyline or a Yaris GR. Years ago, Honda had a little roadster with a .5 liter motor (the Beat) that could make 70mph and live off a tank of gas for a month. Toyota had so many models that could fill in the gaps we lacked in the US long before Dodge cornered the soccer mom van crowd.

>>511106565
Just not true I’ve been to Japan they normal cars there. I’ve been to rural Honshu and up in the mountains

The whole country isn’t Tokyo

>>511107124
Georgetown KY Toyota plant has approximately 10k employees.
In the US, auto manufacturing directly employs approximately 388,000 workers across 15 major automakers. Anything else or am I free to go?

>>511106176
Ya Steel mills aren't that hard to build on a small scale, not that they are common mind you, searching google brings up a steel mill running entirely off solar (with a grid connection because they aren't retarded enough to go entirely solar) that just started construction and will be at full production in 2027, it's not a big mill, just 500k~ tons per year of rebar from recycled steel but still.

>>511101387 (OP)
Tariff percentage numbers originating from the US MIGA administration don't mean shit. That orange retard can change them anytime on a whim.

Toyota vehicles are widely used by militia groups in the middle east. And business is good.