Why aren't you growing food, Anon?
Food prices are nuts and only going to get worse as WWIII ramps up. If you start a garden now, perennials like berry bushes will be mature enough to help sustain you during the worst of it.

>>511128443 (OP)
Don't worry. There would be enogh corpses then.

I have never quite intuitively believed that subsistence farming was possible. You can grow (365 * 2000 * 5) calories worth of cabbage or whatever on an acre of land? Really? Bullshit

>>511128443 (OP)
I reckon we need a proper gardening/farming/homesteading/self sufficiency general.

Put together some decent infographics on regional specific...

Gardening, farming, foraging.
Hunting and fishing.
Water catchment and electricity generation.
Bio diesel/Black diesel production.
Simple and affordable dwellings.
Good trades and careers to pursue that align with those goals.

It's pretty evident a lot of white blokes are being called back to nature and away from the decaying cities.

>>511128858
You want a good variety of crops that are harvested at different times of the year so that you basically always have something ready during your growing season.

Figs give ~75 calories per 100g of fresh fruit. A mature fig tree can produce 45 kg of fig in a year. That's Almost 34k Calories or enough for one adult male to survive more than half a month.

>>511128956
Permaculture is definitely becoming huge with Millennials and Zoomers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvcEP0EjqIc

>>511129289
We're seeing very much the same sort of shift here. Even the most lefty libshit city dwellers are starting to wake up to what's happening and heading for the hills.

I'll start collating a bunch of good information, sources, reading materials and videos on each topic. Even if there isn't enough interest in a general it'll still be good to be able to share it around.

>>511130469
Ideally we should start with areas that will be impacted most heavily by food shortages during the war. Places that, even during peacetime, are net food importers (Like much of Europe)

>>511129289
I hate this song because it reminds me my grandpa sold like most of our land for peanuts then gambled away all that money in a few years.

>>511130624
Yeah guides on more urban orientated high density vertical aeroponics, hydroponics and aquaponics setups are probably a good idea. The reality is those places that will be the hardest hit do not have the luxury of space. They'll need to go full indoor chicken farmer tier.

Not my area of expertise, but realistically probably even more valuable information for the average bloke so i'll have a dig into it.

>>511128443 (OP)
senpai used to have 200 cattle heads, but late 2000s protectionism fucked us hard and had to sell, the goverment didnt let us export it because you need to dedicate a portion of your product to the local market before selling and it made it not worth it.

bought 50 kg of onions beans yesterday, 40 dollah, not great price but ok i guess

>>511131051
Those are all pretty material intensive, that's why I've been trying to spread the concept of having a tree, vine and bushes all living in the same space. It just requires you plant them in that order.

>>511131170
also the eu have insane regulations to send product there, usa too.
its not as easy as grow some shit and send it through the mail

>>511131051
>perfectly good soil
>puts “food” plants in plastic slop tubes for maximums micro plastic uptake
>spent 500 dollars on setup vs 0 for just planting them in the soil
>look how cool I am guys, gibs updoots

>>511131229
That's why I'm making these threads, Anon.
I want people to be able to survive when things like that prevent food from arriving where it's needed.

>>511131190
>Those are all pretty material intensive
They are, but if you don't have the luxury of space it's about your only option for growing volume.

>>511131261
>puts “food” plants in plastic slop tubes for maximums micro plastic uptake
Go and open your refrigerator and pantry mate, do a count of how much is packaged in plastic. How much has plastic lids. Growing in plastic has never been shown to result in microplastics in the produce itself, the soil, absolutely, so don't go eating dirt. But storing in plastic is microplastic central. I guarantee everything you're consuming is full of more microplastics than anything grown in plastic.

>for just planting them in the soil
The point is you can grow 5X as much in the same footprint with a vertical setup, how is that not fucking obvious by just looking at it?

>>511131789
There are other options.

1/8 acre can easily produce an entire year's worth of nutrition for one man with minimal work required and no external inputs.
So basically hunger is a, choice like homelessness, because farming is the easiest thing a human can do. I have no sympathy for those who starve when the system collapses. Baaaaw I so hungry. But eww, I don't want to spend five minutes a month holding a hoe.

>>511128443 (OP)
whats the hardiness matter?

>>511132212
If I live in zone 5 and I try to grow a plant that lives in zones 7-10, it'll freeze to death the first winter.
If I try to grow something that lives in zones 1-3, it'll die from the heat of the first summer.

>>511128858
I think it’s possible if you also have a supply of animal protein.

If you can fish, and there is a decent fish stock nearby, then I imagine it would be pretty easy.

As an Unreal World Pro, I know fishing and trapping are OP when it comes to getting food easily.

>>511131854
Espalier is a good way to go for sure, but it's really the same option. Minimising your foot print whilst maximising your yield.

>>511132456
You can't control how many fish are in the water, but you can control how many berry bushes are in your yard.

If you're growing a bunch of this stuff, it also attracts deer.

>>511132518
A lot of the people reading this thread probably don't even own a spade. Any increase in the cost of setting up is going to delay them starting a garden.

>>511132269
Zone 5 ain't shit. So you start your seeds 3 or 4 weeks earlier than I do, so what? Everyone uses a greenhouse or hotbox to prepare seedlings unless they live in like zone 9b. People grow food in fucking Alaska, so don't pretend 5 is any kind of problem. Short day onions, fast potatoes, highland race, wheat, rye, then the shit load of vegetables that actually prefer the cold.

>>511132637
I *really* don't feel like bringing my trees inside every time there's going to be a frost.