Long term survivability during famine is very poor if you don't grow your own food or know people who do and are on very good terms with them.
Investing 100 bucks on berry bushes now could save your life as food scarcity worsens during WWIII. Any calories you can supply for yourself are better than no calories.

Buy a plant, dig a hole, put it in and water it a few times. That's all I ask. It's as low maintenance as it gets. You just need to do it NOW.

>>511149134 (OP)
I don't want to invest in plants.
I want to travel to countries that are known for their promiscuous women. That's why I'm going to Romania next month.

>>511149134 (OP)
I understand the idea but you can't live on berries
They're 20 calories per quarter pound.

>>511149134 (OP)
Slingshot from scratch, gets you couple of small game easy

>>511149134 (OP)
reduce that mental vomit to one sentence.

>>511149134 (OP)
I do, and a greenhouse.

>>511149406
Learn to grow your own food, retard.

>>511149134 (OP)
I'd rather kill a nigger and eat itz than grow thorny weeds that need landscaping 24/7

>>511149374
It doesn't have to be a berry, but I suggest them because berry bushes tend to mature very quickly. You can get large yields in as little as 3 years from seed.

>>511149365
כמה יוצא טיול כזה ברומניה ?

>>511149406
If you grow your own food, you're less like to die in the next few years.

>>511149134 (OP)
>Long term survivability during famine is very poor if you don't grow your own food or know people who do and are on very good terms with them.
For $1500 you can buy food reserves with all necessary nutrients. Enough to last two years. The right food is easily stored and has a long shelf life.

>>511149554
So grow rabbits

>>511149374
>>511149134 (OP)

You're honestly better off buying canned food and bottled water. In a first world country, corpos take all the water for almond plants and shit like that. Why bother gardening if you're going to need lots of water? I have a backyard but it's tiny and it's only going to provide food (unless I pickle) for 3-6 months out of the year at best, unless you live in California or Florida or similar State/Country.

Of course, you have to buy long before panic sets in and 99% are too dumb and naive for this. If you're not already a prepper you'll never start anyway. And a garden is a nice hobby.

>>511149529
I'm doing three weeks, it's around 17 elef.

>>511149554
ty
>>511149626
>>>/oven/

>>511149626
Raising rabbits is a fantastic idea if you have the space. You want to grow Timothy hay as their primary food source (zones 3a to 9b).
The ones with longer hair are more maintenance, but their fiber is extremely expensive.

>>511149627
Wars can last decades, Anon.

>>511149134 (OP)
This

>>511150694
That edit is fucking amazing.

>>511149982
Grow them outside and hunt them later it's easier target than a bird , and you should start hunting from now , blow gun , slingshot , etc , learn how to clean the animal how to cook it , hunting is ingrained in your DNA

>>511150973
I'd rather keep them in an enclosure just outside of which I grow the hay.
Their droppings are fantastic fertilizer, btw.

>>511149785
כמה עולות זונות שם

>>511149134 (OP)
>planting berries for survival
You're a moron. Plant garlic, potatoes, spinach, squash, carrots and onions. Shit that grows in bulk, stores well, self seeds and is worth the calories you spend harvesting it.

>>511150973
There's not enough game for everyone around you. Canuk just wants you to be more self-sufficient by growing your own food but I would ditch the paranoia spreading of impeding unavoidable famine.

>>511151642
Anon, look at history. Food always becomes scarce during wartime. Rationing in the UK didn't end for like a decade after the war.

>>511151792
Every man should have a garden, even if its just pots of herbs on a window sill.

>>511151251
escorts on internet starting from 100euro/half hour
street hookers is like 300 lei
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>>511149134 (OP)
Why grow food when you can just eat a special, nutrious and practical diet when SHTF?
>Cannivore.
I'll let you figure out the meaning. The only prerequisite is fitness and certain kinds of athleticism. Less than average empathy is a bonus.

>>511149134 (OP)
Black raspberry best raspberry. I've tried those purples, they're not great

Also plant jerusalem artichokes everywhere you can fit them

>>511152202
There are a few different purple cultivars. The ones I tried were royalty purple and were quite nice.

>>511152227
*farts*

>>511152227
These get very tall, so keep that in mind when choosing where to plant them.

>>511151792
Is Canada self-sufficient when it comes to food production?

>>511152378
We are a net food exporter.
We produce more lentils than all other countries combined.

>>511152202
I like RED raspberry

>>511152427
So what's with the paranoia about unavoidable famine?

>>511149134 (OP)
Honestly you people laugh at elderberry hoarders, but you really don’t have enough elderberry yourselves. The average person uses a bushel of elderberry per day. If you have a family of 4, that’s 28 bushels a week. Over 100 a month. Elderberry bushels will be worth their weight in gold in a few months, because everyone needs it.

>>511149134 (OP)
Would if 5here was debt free land abd they wouldnt torch my male hemp bush

Lots of musk ox in the high north

>>511152598
I'm in an agricultural area, so I should be fine, but that's not the case for a lot of people.
How much time do you spend in any given spot of your yard? If all you're "using" it for is having grass, then it's a total waste.
Trust me, big green bushes covered in flowers and fruit are way better for your morale than grass that has to be mowed constantly.

hmm
opportunity to die
or time wasting growing of crops to 'survive'
hard pass

>>511152732
I planted 8 smallish plugs last year, now this year's growth is almost 9 feet tall and putting out their second flush of flowers. Love me some elderberry. I think you might be confused about how big a bushel is though

>>511153041
It's an edit of a greentext from the COVID lockdowns when people were hoarding TP. I got the joke and thought it was funny.
I quite like elderberry, but too many young kids walk by my home on the way to school so I don't want to risk having something they might kill themselves eating unripe berries of.

>>511152732
Your mother was a hamster.

>>511153304
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humster

>>511149134 (OP)
I know how to salt and smoke meat for long term storage. I'll just hunt some niggers for food if that happens. Most are fat fucks and they don't have guns here like they do in your parts.
Also they aren't human, so it's not cannibalism.

I'm just fighting the squirrels right now. I can wop em with a shitty bb gun cause I'm a pretty good shot but can't discharge a .22 in my backyard. They jump pretty good but id rather not hurt something I can't kill.
Got lots of vegetables coming up from seed though!

>>511149134 (OP)
Don't forget about foraging also
Take for example silver weed (pic rel)
It's root has more carbs than potatoes pound for pound, it is a great famine food that could save your life. I have some that grows in my garden. I let it grow there. It spreads like mad however

Another honourable mention is chickweed. And Goosefoot. Willowherb or (fireweed if you are American). They are packed with vitamins. You can also cook rowan berries and eat them. There are is literally so much food right at your feet and all around you, educate yourself and you will never starve especially if you couple foraging with growing vegetables, fishing and livestock of you have the room and the means to feed them. If you don't know these skills, then you are literally niggercattle who's life relies on shops and supermarkets. If the supply chain fails, you will starve

So yeah, by growing your own calories you lower the demand for calories in your area, thereby making prices lower. This also means your neighbours can afford more food and are less likely to eat you.

>>511153870
Squirrel is quite tasty. It's like rabbit, but nutty.

>>511149134 (OP)
>thinks a few berry bushes are gonna support your caloric needs long term
maybe if you had an acre or two of farmland, but a couple berry bushes are lasting you a week tops

>>511153888
I'm thinking of planting some ramps in one of my raised beds.

>>511153041
>>511153183
Kek, this. I only made it because there was an anon praising elderberries every day in early /cvg/. Here is the original TP pasta.

Honestly you people laugh at toilet paper hoarders, but you really don’t have enough toilet paper yourselves. The average person uses a roll of toilet paper per day. If you have a family of 4, that’s 28 rolls a week. Over 100 a month. Toilet paper rolls will be worth their weight in gold in a few months, because everyone needs it.

>>511149134 (OP)
Urbanites actually believe they can live on foraging berries and mushrooms.

>>511154059
Diversify your crops, retard. You make sure you grow many things that will be ready to harvest at different times, ensuring you have food all year round and you can get good nutrition also. Also investing in a root cellar is a good idea

>>511154072
Good idea
I found comfery growing wild last year so I took a slipping. It grows so fast. I'm gonna make a comfery and nettle patch to make my own fertiliser and for topsoil also. I just finished making a big greenhouse also. Made two tables today, i'll finish the rest tomorrow. I'm gonna be set for anything

>>511154059
Some jars of jam or some dehydrated fruit in your pantry could be the difference between having enough food to survive or not.

Good thread. But I have to go to sleep now. If anyone is interested, visit /plant/ on /an/. The OP is very useful, read it

>>511150825
We only have the best memes

>>511154903
Good night, buddy.
May the Japanese beetles skip your garden.

>>511154578
>If i plant 3 bushes that sprout in each different season, that'll last me the entire year
You could fill every square nanometer of an average yard with foodcrops and still not have enough to not also have to buy food. One bush lasting even a single person, who's doing hard physical labor, even 2 days is optimistic to the point of delusion

>>511155315
The point isn't to make it so you grow 100% of your own food, it's to make it so you don't have to buy as much from others because it might not always be available.
>Hard physical labour
I'm specifically promoting the low effort techniques like no-till and growing perennial plants so you only have to put them in the ground once.

Can I eat bees?

>>511154689
yeah i mean if you're saving up for decades beforehand that might do it. But i thought WWIII was just around the corner. Guaranteed within the next 2 years. y'know just like it has been for the last 70 years

>>511149134 (OP)
Farms own and use most of the water we have anyway, go ahead and run a water hose every other day for your super sustainable yard and see how sustainable that water bill is. Even if you somehow did make it work, you'd get a "visit" about doing too well for yourself.

>>511155467
the hard physical labor is support for the theoretical WWIII effort. If that actually happened you'd be training, fighting, or working a manufacturing job every day, or else the government'll just take your land and property

>>511149134 (OP)
That's not how it works, Anon. Certain plants grow in certain climates in certain soil types. You have to find plants that meet those requirements, and even then your soil could be bad. I had pine trees in my yard and nothing will grow because of the pH and other chemicals they left behind. I put out lime, but then found out I have nematodes in the soil, which destroy the roots. It gets very complicated

>>511155559
Based beekeeper Anon.
It's also worthwhile to make a bee motel for the solitary bees in your area. It can be as simple as a log with a bunch of holes drilled a few inches into it pointing towards the South.

>>511155578
Berry bushes take ~3 years to give good crops.
Ditto for figs and a bunch of other plants. Stone fruit are typically closer to 4-5 years before you get huge harvests.
The fact that it takes a while means the sooner you plant it the better off you'll be.
If you don't think WWIII is imminent, then you're just not paying attention.

>>511155800
You could probably grow pine nuts in that spot just fine. IIRC the vaccinium family (blueberries and cranberries) quite like acidic soil.

>>511153767
>I'll just hunt some niggers for food
I'll rather be a racist cannivore and eat humans than taste nig.
Dude, wtf, show some dignity.

>>511153953
Yeah I've cleaned and eaten squirrel. If I wasn't surrounded by neighbors I'd be eating all those fuckers, but I don't even think i could get away with a .22 quiet. Might have to live trap them and execute idk, they're pissing me off.

>>511156038
Squirrel traps are cheap.

>>511155824
>War in middle eastern country
>OMG WWIII HAPPENING
>it doesn't
number of times this has happened: 5
>war in eastern european country (with threat of nuclear weapons)
>OMG WWIII!!!!!
>it isnt
number of times this has happened: 4
>Massive often violent protests, people's trust in the government at an all time low, many withdrawing from society, economy giving literally everyone motivation and nothing to lose
>IF YOU DONT THINK WWIII IS HAPPENING YOU AREN'T PAYING ATTENTION
>no war, riots die down in a couple years
number of times this has happened: 3
>mass immigra-
America's always had mass immigration, Europe too
>the Je-
they've been around, it's been 80 years and WWII only took 20ish. If they wanted it and were capable of starting it they would've done it
>b-but... but... women... tiktok... immigrants
CONSULT. THE. GRAPHS!

>>511156579
If I'm wrong and you plant some fruit bushes/trees/vines, you're still going to be happy with the outcome because you have tons of delicious food.

>Make food forest and nothing bad happens
Good outcome
>Make food forest and something bad happens
Okay outcome
>Don't make food forest and nothing bad happens
Okay outcome
>Don't make food forest and something bad happens
Bad outcome

Grow some fruit/nuts.

>>511151617
This. Lots of people traumatized by the collapse of Soviet Union still grow potatoes and vegetables even if it doesn't make sense from the value of time and money spent. Potato is your friend.

>>511157562
Very true. Grow salad greens if nothing else cause buying a huge plastic thing full of mid ass lettuce that will go bad in two days sucks ass. Lettuce grown in a container can be continually harvested whenever you want, create no waste, take less time to acquire, and be vastly higher quality.

>>511159170
I was growing mustard greens for a while. Its not as fragile as lettuce and would even grow in the shade in winter in my part of California.

>>511149134 (OP)
I mean if you're gonna have routine bot slidethreads why not some nice berryposting