Can someone explain the importance of this town?

Last town for several hundreds of miles

>>511196131 (OP)
from what I understand about this war which is almost nothing the idea Ukraine has an endless amount of defensive lines to fall back on forever is not true but I am not sure

>>511196131 (OP)
Supposedly the russians have already entered the SW part of the city. Its possible the Ukrainians dont have the man power to put up a massive fight there or are disorganized since their supply routes have been heavily damaged for a month

>>511196359
not true, theres a network of like 10 towns the same size before 100+ km of smaller towns until the dnipro city

>>511196570
Yeah. When Bakhmut finally fell after a year long meatgrind and the Wagner mutiny, the holhols fell back to a suburb immediately to the West, which Russia is still meatgrinding currently over 2 years later. And the meatgrind of Pokrovsk has been going on for over a year now and has turned into a meme basically.

>>511196131 (OP)
Probably inconsequential to be honest. Short of some widespread collapse of their lines, the war will continue on as it has for the last few years.
Neither side has any real technological advantage on the other, and the defending side has entrenched itself. WW1 trench warfare, but with extra gay drone attacks. War has always sucked for the soldiers, but this variant seems to be specially pozzed.

>>511196131 (OP)
It doesn't matter and also never existed, like Epstein.

>>511196131 (OP)
It's not particularly important to the front line overall. It makes some of Ukraine's supply lines more difficult, and it slightly shortens/simplifies the length of the front for Russia. That's about it.

>>511196131 (OP)
When is the battle of stinky?

>>511196697
>3 "meat"s in one post
You are now a /k/ janny.

>>511196885
Why do /k/ jannies make you so angry? I never go there, but the seem to cause immense assblast. /pol/ doesn't have jannies at all anymore and literal CP stays up for hours.

>>511196131 (OP)
>@grok, give me a quick rundown on Pokrovsk, in the context of the Denazification of Ukraine
Pokrovsk’s importance in the Russo-Ukrainian War lies in its role as a logistical lifeline, economic hub, and defensive stronghold in Donetsk Oblast. Its capture would deal a severe blow to Ukraine’s ability to sustain its eastern front and industrial output, while providing Russia with a strategic advantage in the Donbas. As of July 24, 2025, Russian forces are intensifying efforts to envelop the city, exploiting Ukraine’s manpower shortages, but Ukrainian defenses, bolstered by drone operations and resilience, continue to hold despite immense pressure. The outcome of this battle could shape the trajectory of the war, influencing both military dynamics and potential ceasefire negotiations.

>>511197369
Okay but, didn't they say the exact same thing about Backmutt?

>>511196986
because they're massive faggots..?

>>511196657
>a network of like 10 towns the same size before 100+ km of smaller towns until the dnipro city
Name 5

>>511197369
>Sustain industrial output
huh? I am not sure I believe that anything near the frontline is contributing meaningfully to industrial output, let alone a besieged city.
MAYBE if you are analyzing some post-conflict outcome, where that city is in a position important to logistics/productivity, but come on Grok.

>>511197431
Grokmutt said its different now because western support for Ukraine is waning and that Russia is trying updated and optimized tactics

>>511196131 (OP)
A bunch of Ukrainians are about to get surrounded if the Russkies take pokrovsk

>>511196841
>When is the battle of stinky?
Soon.

>>511197658
>@grok, wtf how does a besieged city sustains industrial output
When I mentioned Pokrovsk’s role in sustaining Ukraine’s industrial output, I was referring to its pre-war and early-war significance, particularly through the Pischane coal mine, which is the largest coking coal facility in Ukraine and critical for steel production

>>511197580
Hoholsk, Banderovsk, and so on

>>511196131 (OP)
Hohol logistics center

>>511198552
How does a city that is surrounded on 3 sides serve as a logistics center?

>>511198552
It's where all the biolabs and Adrenochrome harvesting takes place.

>>511198498
>There are like 10 cities like that, no big of a deal
>Name 5 then..
>names 2 and end with etc...
>Look at a flag
Another hooked nose tribe post

>>511196131 (OP)
See those rivers top left of the map? Its not easy to cross them, and they go all the way to the Dneiper. Segmented territory => Impossible logistics for defense.

>>511198974
1. Zaporizhzhia (Зaпopiжжя)
Region: Zaporizhzhia Oblast (west bank controlled by Ukraine, east bank contested)

Importance: Major industrial city and administrative center.

2. Kryvyi Rih (Кpивий Piг)
Region: Dnipropetrovsk Oblast (partially east of the Dnipro)

Importance: Key industrial and mining city, hometown of President Zelensky.

3. Nikopol (Hiкoпoль)
Region: Dnipropetrovsk Oblast (on the west bank but faces Russian-occupied east bank)

Importance: Major river port and industrial hub under constant shelling.

4. Marhanets (Mapгaнeць)
Region: Dnipropetrovsk Oblast (near Nikopol, west bank)

Importance: Mining town, heavily affected by Russian strikes.

5. Velyka Novosilka (Beликa Hoвociлкa)
Region: Donetsk Oblast (east of the Dnipro)

Importance: Key Ukrainian stronghold in the Donetsk sector.

6. Orikhiv (Opiхiв)
Region: Zaporizhzhia Oblast

Importance: Frontline town, gateway to potential Ukrainian advances toward Tokmak.

7. Huliaipole (Гyляйпoлe)
Region: Zaporizhzhia Oblast

Importance: Long-held Ukrainian town near the front line.

8. Vuhledar (Byглeдap)
Region: Donetsk Oblast

Importance: Strategically important mining town, has resisted Russian assaults.

9. Pavlivka (Пaвлiвкa)
Region: Donetsk Oblast

Importance: Frontline village near Vuhledar.

10. Novodarivka (Hoвoдapiвкa)
Region: Zaporizhzhia Oblast

Importance: Small but strategically contested settlement.

>>511196131 (OP)
>Pokrovsk fall imminent
Let me check the archive
>2024
yeah

>>511199538
>Kryvyi Rih
chikseek failed me, hes telling me western cities when the promt was 10 biggest towns under ukranian control east of dnipro city

>>511199393
Interesting

>>511198498
Hmm, indeed

>>511198636
There's a main road and a railway going through it.

ukraine wins its war of territorial return by losing territory obviously.

>>511196131 (OP)
2 more weeks

>>511196697
Russians will win by meatgrinding. They can afford to lose 3 men for each Uke.
It's not very impressive from a military science point of view, but it will get the job done.

>>511199743
They might gain some land but what comes after when they've exhausted their military and bankrupted the country?

>>511196986
Because /k/ jannies are literal Eglin base glownigger faggot loyalists of Israel who give you all boards bans for doing anything but gobbling the narrative nut

>>511199850
NATO was saying they've exhausted their military and are days away from bankruptcy 2 years ago, anon.
In reality, what happens when Ukraine falls and there is no longer that fat pool of manpower that's able to be pressganged? Do you think there's really a lot of willpower in the West to eat a drone for Zelenskey?

>>511196697
I do not think the Russians are "meatgrinding" Pokrovsk the way they did Bakhmut.
I am sure they still lose plenty of men, but they learned a lesson in Bakhmut.
This war is won whenever Ukraine runs out of manpower, it's not a race to occupy territory.

>>511196131 (OP)
Knowing from the stories of guys who served in the army how shit and corrupt our army is, I'm impressed to this day by our success.

>>511199850
Lol, exhausting their army and bankrupting their country is what they do twice every century.

>>511200251
It's an attrition warfare scenario. Something Russians are very, very good at. If it was combined arms or mobile warfare Russia would lose. Thankfully, neither Ukraine or the West have the resources to launch much less sustain such an attack on Russia. Even Nazi Germany failed to muster the production and logistical capacity to sustain their Biltzkrieg.

I think Russia is invincible simply because the military buildup that would be required to destroy it is so enormous, not only would it take years, but it would be so obvious and apparent it could easily be nullified by nuclear first-strike.

>>511196131 (OP)
Zelensky is obviously trying to legislate amnesty for himself by passing that corruption law through the Ukrainian government because he is preparing to flee the country

>>511199538
A lot of those are already under Russian control. You have a bit of homework to do.

>>511196131 (OP)

PORKROAST FALL IMMINENT

>>511199850
You don't get it, people will gladly live in misery as long as they can RUSSIA STRONK.

>>511200251
You vastly overestimate Western aptitude.

>>511199850
>bankrupted the country
Russia has an estimated $75 trillion in resources. It will take a bit for them to be bankrupted.

>>511200251

>>511200847
>Russia has an estimated $75 trillion in resources.
Why did no one tell this to Kremlin before they raised the retirement age?

>>511200251
>I'm impressed to this day by our success.
fortis Fortuna adiuvat

>>511199670
Makes no sense bro
>>511199743
Why can Russia only ever win by attrition instead of good generalship and strategy? Every war they fight is the same.
>>511199992
>I am sure they still lose plenty of men, but they learned a lesson in Bakhmut.
What was the lesson though?

>>511199743
>lose 3 men for each Uke.
Retard. Propaganda is supposed to be somewhat believable.

>>511200928
Because it's not meant to be immediately spunked away. It's not only your birthright, but the birthright of future vatnik generations.

>>511200928
Check your CIA yearbook glowie.

>>511201041
>immediately
>retirement fund
It's not that big of an expense considering it's offset by taxes.

>>511201079
What?

>>511200958
>instead of good generalship and strategy? Every war they fight is the same.
>lost in vietnam
>lost in korea
>lost in afghanistan
>only recent victory was against a goatfucker army depleted after a protracted war with Iran
Please don't tell me you're an actual Israeli-US loyalist are you? You'll never be a patriot that way

they didn't need it anyway

>>511196131 (OP)
They keep the Epstein files in Pokrovsk, don't ask it's 4 chess.

The degree of Pokrovsk's unimportance is beyond your comprehension

>>511196749
Yeah and not Christmas football games

>>511200847
Dirt isn't worth anything unless you can sell it.

>>511196131 (OP)
2 more weeks til kiev.

>>511200641
He literally just asked some shit ai.

>>511200928
Most zigger just want to sign up and ride with the eastern orthodoxy meme. They have no clue of the brute force millions will die before victory is achieved tactics.Thing is literacy rose from 4% to 97%

>>511196131 (OP)
Its the last town before the next town that russia will spend 8 months and 120000 soldiers to annex.

>>511199743
They really can't though, their demographic pyramid is fucking bleak.

>>511199992
Its a shame that it devolved to this but I think you're right.

well see when ukraine holds it it's the most important town of all time and the russians are just embarrassing themselves trying to take it because the ukrainians know how important it is and they'll just massacre any russians who get too close to the town
then when it falls it's some shithole town that nobody cares about and russia wasted their resources on taking it and it doesn't matter that more ukrainians died defending it than russians died taking it because the russians are terrorists who are gonna lose no matter what

>>511199743
3 to 1 by attacking is actually not that bad. Russia has a lots of scum to be sacrificed. Media starting to be truth pilled. Ukraine can't even win a defensive victory.

>>511201699
>They have no clue
They know, they just don't give a shit.

>>511201913
>their demographic pyramid is fucking bleak
Putin can always request more migrants.

>>511202059
meanwhile back in reality, Russia sent 5000 hohols in echange for 78 Russians lmao

>>511196131 (OP)
I just think it's neat

>>511196131 (OP)
It's easy to understand. After this, everything falls, the world will end, and all this will happen in 14*24*60 mins.

>>511196131 (OP)
If Russia is about to take it it was never important.

>>511202446
Is Ukraine supposed to do body-raiding raids into rusnigger territory to snatch a few of their corpses?

>>511202791
Russia seems to do it just fine. Again, 5000 hohol bodies versus 78 lmao. Also Ukraine is building a new graveyard with capacity for 160.000 new expired hohols. Why is that?

>>511196131 (OP)
>Pokrovsk fall imminent
A couple months ago /uhg/ had it in their timeline that Ukraine had won the battle of Porkroast. What gives? Did /uhg/ lie?
>>505125830
>Ukraine declares victory in the battle for Povkvorsk

>>511202940
Casualty ratio is probably 1/1. The Russians don't care reclaiming their dead. Bad optics

>>511202940
Here's a video of satellite imagery showing cemetery expansion in Ukraine. This is from months ago btw, so surely its even worse than this by now. But anyway, don't let these facts fool you... Ukraine is definitely winning the war because.... because they just are, okay?! Ghost of Keef said so himself!

>>511203158
But they reclaim hohol bodies? Weird.... Yet during these 5000 hohols for 78 Russian exchanges, it was hohols who were trying to torpedo the exchange. Russia had to start releasing names of the expired hohols to force them to accept the bodies. Really weird...

>>511201913
the age of the average soldier is 45. Getting rid of the demographic that is about to be retired sounds like a thing a government would like to do

>>511203158
>Casualty ratio is probably 1/1.
No evidence supports that. You just desperately want to believe it because you have an obvious anti-Russian bias.

>>511196131 (OP)
Major roadway runs through it

>>511203246
Yes, it's politically beneficial for Ukraine, not to hide their casualties THAT much, at this point of the war, with the fatigue in the western world and an unpredictable US president. It's a way to blackmail for more help.
>>511203293
>>511203246
Guys, be serious. You can't expect the casualty ratio to be much different than that. This is the real world we are talking about. Ukraine has the advantages of the defender, plus a shit load of western military technology. On the other hand, the Russians haven't been able to conquer Ukraine yet. We are talking about Russians capturing square millimeters per day. And the Kremlin is know for hiding casualties. Be balanced and emotionally withdrawn in your assessments.

>>511197431
It's true in both cases (and Adveedka).
Every time they unlock one of those cities, that immediately frees up kilometers further north/west, since Ukraine has to regroup to the next strongholds, not in the next field.

Pokrosk is a transport hub, linking multiple roads and railways.

>>511198636
It served before being surrounded.

Now it doesn't do that, which means NAFOids are starting to say they don't need Pokrosvk anyway, it's a useless small city that is completely destroyed.

>>511196131 (OP)
Cockholes have a problem with infantry, even with bussyfication they can't saturate the frontlines fast enough to replace staggering losses our boiZ inflicting on rabid pigs.

>>511202791
According to NAFO propaganda, Russians are dying by the thousands in meat wave assaults.

If that was the case surely you could grab the few bodies falling in front of you?

>>511203600
>You can't expect the casualty ratio to be much different than that.
All evidence points to it, see>>511202446
> Ukraine has the advantages of the defender
This is a real war, not a video game. Ukraine doesn't get a 50% boost because they are defenders. This war is a artillery and increasingly drones war. Russia has a massive advantage in all those areas. Also on a tactical level there isn't a defender vs attacker, or at least the distinction isn't solid. There are attacks and counter attacks. Some positions change hands multiple times during a day.
>plus a shit load of western military technology.
Der wunderwaffe? Why don't we hear about Himars anymore? Why do we only hear about f-16 when one gets shot down?
>On the other hand, the Russians haven't been able to conquer Ukraine yet.
Russia lost because they didn't fulfill something you imposed on them? mutts were in Afghanistan for 20 years and lost, they never conquered Afghanistan.
>Be balanced and emotionally withdrawn in your assessments.
Right, i'm using data, and data shows Russians have a 50 to 1 advantage in body exchanges over hohols. And your only response is that the Russians don't want their bodies because you read it on redit

>>511196131 (OP)
It's THE logistical hub for the ukranian armed forces for the entire region. I'll let you search onlone what a military logistical hub is. The hohol army will be even more crippled after it falls. Such places are not easy to replace since it takes years to build a d requires massive existing infrastructure.

Secondarily it's one of the last fortified cities before a big ass expanse of rolling labd (impossible to derend).

>>511201224
Why can Russia only ever win by attrition instead of good generalship and strategy? Every war they fight is the same.

>>511199850
>exhausted their military and bankrupted the country?
Ukraine is important to Russia *shrug*
They want it and are willing to pay price to get it.
That's all that matters.

>Why can Russia only ever win by attrition instead of good generalship and strategy? Every war they fight is the same.

>>511203600
>Ukraine has the advantages of the defender
No, they don't. They forfeited it by launching a retarded offensive into Kursk. Did you memoryhole that?

This "defenders advantage" shit is just something normies believe that has no basis in reality btw. The advantage is in the side who has the most firepower. Napoleon understood this. Picrel.

I'm tired of hearing this "defender's advantage" bullshit. Its fake. Its a lie. God is on the side with the best artillery. In this case its the Russians.

>>511204185
>They want it and are willing to pay price to get it.
What number of dead Russians is too much for conquering Ukraine? Is there even a number? And what value will rubble with no people provide Russia post-war?

>>511201913
The absolute state of the state.

>>511204253
>>Why can Russia only ever win by attrition instead of good generalship and strategy? Every war they fight is the same.
Its called the Fabian strategy. And that is the epitome of good generalship and strategy. This is how Rome defeated Carthage in the Punic wars.

And they say that Russia is the "third Rome" so Russia employing the Fabian strategy which turned Rome into a superpower is very fitting.

>>511201913
>They really can't though, their demographic pyramid is fucking bleak.
Now show Ukraine's.

>>511202446
That is going to be highly biased because of the motion of the lines into Ukraine territory. The russians would have 1st party knowledge about the % of bodies they find.

>>511204149
You know nothing. They were the first to theorise and apply operational warfare during ww2.

>>511204263
>Kursk
Still butthurt, hivan?

>>511204633
How's that Kursk status?

>>511204633
Here are hohols still fertilizing kursk

>>511196131 (OP)
>>511196570
Ukies build two more defence lines behind Pokrovsk.
It will hurt them a lot, but it won't be a decisive blow. Ukraine will survive but lose Donetsk 100%

>>511200847
Imagine if they just didnt behave like niggers they could be very rich

>>511200847
that is some 90 IQ reasoning there. Just imagine how much the resources on the moon are worth, Albania should scoop up that free real estate and be rich.

>>511204779
>Ukraine will survive
heh, nobody tell him, it's funnier that way

>>511196131 (OP)
im getting some serious bakhmut vibes

>>511199743
they're not losing 3 for every 1 ukrainian, that's a total fantasy based on a /k/ level understanding of warfare. they have more artillery, more drones, more armoured vehicles, more infantry, and almost uncontested aerial bombardment of fighting positions. ukraine has a slave army of kidnapped deliveroo drivers kept in place by blocking detachments and have a desertion crisis so bad they give amnesty for the first 2 desertions. they're being slaughtered and it's not even close

>>511203293
Last time it was 1:1 was in Kursk since Ukraine was on the offensive. Latest reports suggest 2:1 or 3:1 in Ukraine's favor, since they are on the defensive on the entire front.

>>511196131 (OP)
>>511196131 (OP)
Strategically irrelevant

>>511196697
How much territory did we get from Afghanistan and Iraq? Thinking about vacationing in our overseas territories our sons and daughters died for.

>>511196131 (OP)
It's the source of the Über soldat serum. Knocking this deep underground laboratory has always been our top priority.

>>511204396
Fabian strategy was for a defensive war against invaders with limited supplies. Russians have innovated on this concept by first launching an invasive war and then aiming for attrition.

>>511204618
Why can't they use that theory then? Why only meatgrind and attrition?

in what position does this leave Stinky? can it hold?

>>511208142
Russia needs more territory bad don't they? It's the main thing they lack yeah?

>>511208193
They're also working on Nintendo Switch 3, we must stop this madness.

>>511196131 (OP)
Its the last main bastion that protects whole of Ukraine, once it falls its over for xoxols.

>>511204633
>Still butthurt, hivan?
Never was. You NPC retards acted like it was a big deal but I'm smarter than you and I knew it would never amount to anything, and I was right.

>>511204766
>Here are hohols still fertilizing kursk
Zelensky doesn't want them. To accept the return of these remains would mean acknowledging their deaths, which not only is bad politically since this whole blunder was Zelensky's idea and these people died needlessly because of him, but also it means having to pay pensions to their families. By pretending these people never died, Zelensky can withhold payment.

>>511207559
latest reports from whom discount kraut?

>>511208634
There is a quick test to find out if you are a NPC retard.
Just remember what was your take about this war in feb 2022. Mine was Ukraine won't last more then a month, which by today standards is npc retard take.

>>511196131 (OP)

Imminent. Suggests immediate. Dubious. It's imminent in the fact it looks like it will be conquered. How long will that take? Weeks, months, year?

>>511199871
They jerk off to children

>>511196131 (OP)
>Can someone explain the importance of this town?
Its a crossroad for ligistics.
>2 more villages and kyiv will fall

>>511208788
2 months at most. the defenders are not well organised or motivated

>>511204779
>Ukies build two more defence lines behind Pokrovsk.
What makes you think these will fare any better than all the defense lines they've made before them? Nothing they can throw together now will ever be as heavily fortified as the starting line which they had a full 8 years to dig into, and could do it in a state of peace without bombs and drones harassing them at every turn.

That city for ukraine is basically what rome is to italy. All road and railroads in eastern ukraine go there. It's a massive logistical hub. If russians get it, they can choose to attack whenever they want and their logiclstic will be easier several times.

>>511206388
>will reach Pokrovsk
Yes, and that's now finally happened. Just like how before the battle of Bakhmut even started the Russians had to reach it in the first place. Fighting to reach a place and then the subsequent battle for it are two completely separate things and you shouldn't conflate the two.

Bakhmut indeed was a long battle, but it wasn't as long as many think because much of that time involved maneuvering into position before it even started. The same goes here (or anywhere).

That said, I don't think Pokrovsk will take anywhere near as long as Bakhmut did, or even Avdeevka. Ukraine is much weaker now than they were back then. Its already clear that Russia has Pokrovsk in the bag.

>>511208735
It was a retard take even back then desu. The IRL take I've heard most at the time was "fuck, now it's either several years of war, or a quick ending and a decade of domestic terrorism". So far the only difference with how this turned out is that my biys' club back then expected most of the fighting to be done by guerrillas, not an externally equipped army.

>>511207559
>Latest reports
From whom?

Russia and Ukraine keep doing dead body exchanges where Russia hands over thousands of dead Ukrainians in exchange for maybe a couple dozen or so dead Russians. That's what the real k/d ratio is. Ukraine can say any bullshit it wants, but it can't back it up.

>>511199992
Why does russia now control less of ukraine, than it did 3 years ago?

>>511208248
>Fabian strategy was for a defensive war against invaders with limited supplies.
Nothing says it has to be.
>Russians have innovated on this concept by first launching an invasive war and then aiming for attrition.
Read up on Julius Caesar's conquest of Gaul. This was an unprovoked invasion Caesar launched so he was the invader, but nonetheless when he laid siege to the Gallic stronghold of Alesia, he built his own fortifications around it. The Romans were masters of the art of being the attackers, but then switching to a defensive role in enemy territory and forcing their opponents to become attackers just in order to defend themselves. In the siege of Alesia the Romans had the "defender's advantage" even though morally they were the attackers, clearly.

>>511203246
>Russia had to start releasing names of the expired hohols to force them to accept the bodies.
said russia....

>>511204253
your picrel has absolutely nothing to with the quote
The poster you quoted is wrong because this IS russias strategy, it works, and has worked before.
They are willing to sacrifice ten thousands of low value men. Its not wrong from a fascist authoritharian point of view, its for the state.

>>511209728
sometimes actually it is better not to fight to the death for ever square millimetre. especially when your strategic priority is in one place, and your enemy attacks in another. of course you already know this and are asking stupid questions in bad faith. you should know that such a practise makes you look stupid

>>511208313
>in what position does this leave Stinky? can it hold?
Looking at what it says on wikipedia, its a rural settlement of about 265 people. Whenever the Russians reach it they'll probably take it within the same day without much opposition.

After Pokrovsk falls it's a free ride until Lisabon.

>>511208735
To be honest I really didn't think it would drag out this many years like it has. I always did believe that Russia would win though, and still do. A lot of people didn't believe this back in autumn of 2022 when Ukraine regained a lot of territory. This was before Russia began their first mobilization so the real war hadn't even begun yet by this point. Russia went in with like 180k troops at first iirc. This was insufficient against the ~700k or whatever Ukraine had. The fact Ukraine was able to regain some territory back then shouldn't have been surprising when you keep that in mind. But once Russia addressed this issue, and mobilized, then its been a consistent (albeit slow) Russian advance ever since then.

I don't know what Russia was thinking at the start, but they didn't initially go into this with the level of strength this type of war requires. But that is in the past.

>>511209728
>Why does russia now control less of ukraine, than it did 3 years ago?
Because you're attributing Russian control over large swaths of territory which they never actually did control. When they did their race to Kyiv thing at the start they only ever controlled the roads and a few key towns and that was it. When they retreated, they left by the same roads they came and that was it. That was all they ever controlled or lost.

But disingenuous pro-Ukrainian shills love to twist the facts and exaggerate what Russia actually controlled and falsely claim they had full control over huge swaths of land. Why? So they can then inflate the importance of Ukraine's "epic" retaking of this land. But its all bullshit.

>>511210507
cuckraine didnt regain shit
they only moved in when Russians abbandoned forward positions because they lacked manpower to hold it and hohol groups were moving past them
Kherson city and river bank was literally abbandoned along with airfield next to Kiev
Russians would move even MORE back to consolidate line if it werent for 3 years of volonteers joining by about 1000-1500 a month because Cuctin and high command deems it unnecessary to mobilise more men
They didnt do even 1 proper mobilisation and theres 1.5 million men serving in Russian forces while 180k do all of the fighting versus 600k hohols
Its a miracle how much hohols they neutralised by this point

>>511196131 (OP)
Its where pork comes from. Why its called porkroast

>>511210687
Its funny how Le greatest counter offensyiyve of 2023 including leopards and challengers is all but forgotten to them, even recent Kursk adventures are forbidden to talk about

>>511196131 (OP)
Stupid slavs fell for the jew tricks.

>>511210687
So you're seriously claiming that Russia never controlled kherson city, or a significant part of kharkiv oblast? No offense buddy, but I think your coping pretty hard there.

Btw, how's the summer copeffensive going? Any big breakthroughs?

>>511203866
Cant wait for the ukies to gore post your death webm. You can't stay in hiding forever, they want you on ze front.

>>511209016
>will fare any better
thats the neat part, they wont. But its another 2 years time bought of the backs of young ukrainian and russian bucks. The same bucks that are currently being replaced at a 0.7 TFR that putin refuses to publish

>>511196841
Stinky will hold

>>511211536
once again you're deliberately asking a stupid question and you know it. this makes you look stupid. i will answer it in good faith so that others may see. russia underprioritised kharkov sector (the front was so sparsely manned that many ukrainian formations simply walked through unopposed) to try and hold kherson (which they fought very hard hard for, many ukrainian formations got shellacked and 'lost their combat capability' as the ukrainian strategy for reducing this bridgehead was to strain russian logistical capacity and suppress and damage their one reliable route of resupplying their forces over the dniepr), and in the end they lost both since kherson bridgehead was not sustainable. as for current russian offensive, i fully expect pokrovsk to fall before end of summer, siversk and konstantinovka will fall before the end of the year

>>511212223
it won't be 2 years to overcome those defenses. you have to have men in them for them to be effective

>>511211536
Russian moved in, and then left.

We do know that because when Ukraine tried to do an actual counter-offensive, they could not go past half a kilometer.

>>511211536
Russia_is_winning_too_slowly.jpeg

>>511196131 (OP)

>>511199743
I remember not too long ago you retards said Ukraine was winning. Now you're coping that they're losing to "le meatgrind". How about you admit you were always wrong and retarded? How about you admit Russia is winning this war of attrition against a largely genocided Ukranian youth using free armaments from hemorrhaging kiked western economies?

6 days old news but go to 4:55 and see this analysis

https://rumble.com/v6waysm-doomsday-kamianske-popiv-yar-and-dihtiarne-fell-the-assault-on-rodynske-has.html?e9s=src_v1_cbl%2Csrc_v1_ucp_v

>>511211536
>1751694110010707m.jpg
Where's the 2023 Summer Offensive? Remember that one where Ukraine was going to take Crimea and have a beach party there? How is that coming along?
>So you're seriously claiming that Russia never controlled kherson city, or a significant part of kharkiv oblast?
I was referring to the north. Yes, they also had these places and then retreated from them. But you can be sure they'll come back for them before all is said and done. The issue with Kherson is that it was on the wrong side of the river. It was a logistical nightmare. Taking that at the start of the war was premature. Russia needs to finish mopping things up east of the Dnieper before they can worry about crossing to the west of it.

>>511213003
Just you wait! The ukrainian army of last year is DEAD, they're feeding the worms and their families won't be compensated.
The current army will SMASH ruzzian orks!

>>511196841
///SECRET CIA REPORT
///SNDNFD//CHKSKFK
TOP SECRET REPORT SOVIET FORTRESS CITY PROJECT

NAME:STINKY
KAKASHKI CLASS FORTESS CITY
BUILD DURING THE HEIGHT OF THE COLD WAR IT IS RUMOURED THAT A CITY THE SIZE OF MOSCOW WAS BUILD UNDERNEATH TO ENSURE SURVIVAL OF SOVIET LEADERSHIP
DEFENSIVE STRENGTH: OLD CIA REPORTS MENTION MULTIPLE HEAVY WEAPONS CODE NAME ГУHДAM
UKRAINE IS RUMOURED TO HAVE TAKEN CONTROLS OF THESE WEAPONS

////TOP SECRET BURN AFTER READING////
CIA
.
.M8

>>511211536
Aren't you the coward who fled and now spend 24/7 365 pretending to be a patriot?

is russia going to even survive into 2026

The Russians spent an entire month farming the outskirts of Toretsk, why would they change tactics

>>511210687
>ERM ACKSHULLY YOU MAY ONLY COUNT THE PRECISE AMOUNT OF ROAD THE DIMENSIONS OF THE THOUSANDS OF MILITARY VEHICLES COULD COVER SIR

>>511213531
is canada? i was there this past winter and there aren't any canadians left. only street shitters

>>511196697
>Wagner mutiny
Citation: TikTok
>Producing bodies 10:1 doesn't count as winning because colors on map

More land for the upcoming jews duh

>>511213778
idk but I'm e-dating a girl in russia and she says things are pretty fucked

>>511212640
>it won't be 2 years to overcome those defenses.
This. 2 years is what it took Russia to overcome the Zelensky line (or whatever its called) that was built up for 8 years during time of peace with concrete bunkers and the works. Sure, Ukraine can scramble and dig some trenches and throw down some dragon's teeth and that's certainly better than nothing, but it won't be anywhere close to the line they had at the start.

But additionally, a line can only function if you have soldiers to man it. That's something Ukraine is running low on these days. Desertions and mutinies are becoming increasingly common among what few soldiers Ukraine still has left.

>>511210687
>When they retreated,
An interesting anecdote from a long interview with a Russian serviceman (forgot what his role was, tank commander iirc) who was deployed at Kiev — they were constantly on the offensive and genuinely were convinced they were winning. The order to withdraw came with CO commenting that the diplomats have done the rest and the mission had been accomplished. They then packed up and left uncontested.

Kherson offensive itself was a slaughter for Ukrainians but in the end with the few bridges over Dnieper looking more and more like swiss cheese (thanks to the west providing an ample supply of longer range artillery systems — back when their stock wasn't depleted) and a good chunk of the city's civilians still living in their homes and requiring an endless supply of amenities and no reinforcements to draw from pulling out was the only recourse. Again the withdrawal was well-choreographed and uncontested.

Now Kharkov — that was a retreat. In many cases — a rout, even. That was the one direction from which so many troops had been shifted to Kherson that some part of the frontline had as few as 3-4 soldiers per kilometer. The move itself was well-telegraphed, but far too many officers were to afraid to be the bringers of bad news.

When arguing with someone pointing at the early maps it is however sufficient to just mention that Russia has been steadily gaining ground ever since it mobilized (once!). Meanwhile Ukraine has been having to resort to grabbing men off streets for the past 2 years because no one volunteers anymore — and the civilians are acting more and more aggressive towards the press-ganger goons.

>>511213003
>we didn't need it anyway
A recurring theme.

>>511213909
Oh, do tell. Have to use a vpn to access IG? Can't purchase a genuine Gucci? Have to take a transit flight through Istanbul to visit Paris?

No, let me guess, unaffordable housing and hordes of brown migrants replacing the indigenous population? Why, coincidentally that is also a perfect description of modern Canada. Will it survive into 2026?

>>511214486
>apparent John Kirby quote where he calls Bakhmut by its zigger name

>>511213404
>the ukr army of last year is dead, this is a whole new army.
David is right. It is a whole new army. Just like the Volkssturm was a whole new army to replace the army the Germans lost in Stalingrad.

>>511196131 (OP)
When it falls it will instantly become unimportant.

>>511214678
Here's a better source. He doesn't use the word "Artemovsk" of course, but its still the same otherwise.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2023/05/26/nscs_john_kirby_russians_gain_no_strategic_value_from_taking_bakhmut_us_will_support_ukraine_to_take_it_back.html

>>511204766
>handling decomposed corpses without gloves
ew

>>511214912
So what was the strategic value of Bakhmut (pardon my deadnaming, xirs)?

For me it looks like he's right, and Russia is still stuck in the next town west to it.

>>511214713
seen that before

>>511200251
Show me an army that isn't shit and corrupt. At least the corruption is being purged, bit by bit from your army. The German army is filled with schnitzel eating, fat homosexuals and that includes the big dude to the last cunt. If a choice is ever to be made, the Russian army is by far the best one.

>>511202061
And you can always leave. No one is stopping you. The Russian Federation isn't 404. Fuck off and stop bitching.

>>511204633
It will be your turn to be rolled over too and we won't help you.

>>511207559
Totally dude... Not one time in the entire conflict, did that happen.

>>511204446
>Now show Ukraine's.
Yeah they're both fucked if the decide to autistically kill off their men.

>>511196131 (OP)
trust the plan

>>511215922
>Puccia crossing the Dnieper, ever

>>511196131 (OP)
It's unironically over if Russia manages to take Dnipro, which should take 7 years at this pont

>>511210980
>still posting this fake shit
They're boilers
https://ua.coca-colahellenic.com/en/media/news/corporate/redcross_mobileboilers

>>511196131 (OP)
>Can someone explain the importance of this town?
Always look at the major roads/highways. A town like Pokrovsk has 5 major arterials which means it makes an excellent distribution hub for surrounding towns and cities.

>>511196841
Gas all furr... no wait! They may end up enjoying it!

>>511212268
They had Hey Arnold in New Zealand?

On the one hand I hate the globohomo and like seeing western powers humbled as their gay ways of ruling show obvious incompetence, but on the other hand the GAE maintains my lifestyle, so losing vassal states is problematic.
I do want all the men to return home safely to ruin my dota lobbies again.

>>511204149
They wrote the books on Urban Warfare in Stalingrad you retard

>>511204275
>the ethnocentric American cannot realize there are not whiny pussy casualty adverse nations

>>511196596
hey burger oblast amerikanski.

The town is worthless now after The Greatest Army on Earth tried to take it for 2years now. All supply routes and lines have been taken and more or less, this is a pile of rubble the russians might (or not) take in the next 3 months with insanely high losses. That will be pbbly the last town Russia takes before seizing to exist in late November.

>>511196131 (OP)
My guess it is like the battle of Verdun in WW1, only its being fought over a series of small towns rather than just one place around one big city.
The German idea was to bleed the French dry of manpower by attacking a city the French would be bound to defend. This allowed them to concentrate well supplied forces, supported by shitloads of artillery, in one place, rather than than fighting a battle of attrition along an extended front. Attrition warfare along an extended front line is less effective and far harder to manage.
I think the Russians are doing the same thing, only in this case the Ukrainians hold on as long as they can becasue they know just giving up and retreating each time the Russians begin a pincer around a town will just lead to a steady push back, which would have serious political implications both at home and abroad. The Ukies will also have invested significant resources in fortifying their positions, which they will not want to give up before getting their money's worth in Russian blood.

The other thing to consider is that its not always easy to fall back once combat contact has been initiated. Retreating in the face of close enemy contact risks incurring significant casualties without inflicting many in return, it has a demoralizing effect on the troops, and can also risk losing significant equipment and supplies in the process.

Obviously both sides crunch the numbers, do their own math and have decided that going at it like this for years is the best option in either case. The Russians must be hoping the Ukrainians will run out of warm bodies before they do. The Ukrainians must be convinced that they are inflicting enough damage to make these battles favorable, despite their own losses. Attrition warfare is an act of desperation though, initiated by a side which has failed in its initial objectives. Its a tacit admission that they have nothing left in their bag of tricks.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Verdun

>>511196131 (OP)
It is important as any other city PR village that it is part of lugansk, Donetsk, zaporojie ,herson, harkov and Odessa.
It is just the next city to be taken.
Nothing special about it.
Just the next one.

>>511213171
>Where's the 2023 Summer Offensive
Right here

>>511197431
It is just the next city to be taken.
It is by the russian constitution part and of RF.

>>511217317
>Attrition warfare
No one practice this or wants it.
It isnslow because it is a new war. With drones and the powers in the war, sides, armies are almost equally strong. So it s a slow war.
But it s not an attrition war.

>>511196131 (OP)
goreleaf claimed it would never fall

>>511217404

>>511217852
So Russia has been continuously pushing on, while ukraine is running out of everything, men, morale, money, equipment, ammunition and western goodwill with no way to replenish them and the grinder is continuing while ukraine is desperately crying for an "unconditional" ceasefire. Hmmm, I wonder who might be winning here, in this war of attrition.

>>511218158
>while ukraine is desperately crying for an "unconditional" ceasefire.

>83 results found
bro can you stop

>>511218363
Are you retarded or just in denial? In b4 you are trying to proofster, ukraine has been begging for a ceasefire since January now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEwPX-6RC00
https://www.president.gov.ua/en/news/ukrayina-gotova-do-bezumovnogo-pripinennya-vognyu-ta-peregov-97313
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce821nl3251o

>>511211536
>2 pbtid
Good job shilling lmao

>>511202446
Lol, how about the fact that rusniggers stuff the vans with bodies of their own soldiers? Man bodies were found with russian identification and uniforms. They're so lazy.

I would make my heroic last stand in Stinky and become the Stinky Martyr.

>>511204263
Defensive advantage only applies to two equal forces. Ukraine and Russia are not equal forces.
By that logic the taliban should have lost less troops than the U.S but they didn't. They got slaughtered.

>>511218586
>it's real in my head you nazi bigot!

>>511219103
I literally linked the official government website of ukraine. Your denial is so desperate. Reality is really hurting ukrops and nafoids these days.

>>511196131 (OP)
major defensive stronghold and logistics hub (formerly for ukraine, now disabled in that capacity for both sides, but will be extremely useful to russia once they get it)

>>511219285
>asks = begs in the vatnik slave mind
>"unconditional" ceasefire: sets conditions
Stick to watching TV and reading Riposzt, dumbfuck anon.

>>511198498
not to mention Hryuky and Yevreypol

>>511219103
>g-guyse whoever shits on the ukraine is ANTI NASEY. gettem poooool! wink wink
Cool

>>511203158
>>511203293
On some days lately the kill ratio has even been in Russia's favor. Things are not going well for Ukraine in that area.

>>511196131 (OP)
It's just a nice spot for a bunch of white people to slaughter each other for the entertainment of jews.

>>511220246
Didn't Great Leader Monke start the 3 day SMO to denastify Ukraine of the ebil banderist nasties, comrade zister?

>>511196131 (OP)
Pokrovsk has zero military, strategic, economic, or political importance. Let me know when Putin's army is outside Paris. Then I'll be interested in what you have to say.

>>511215538
>And you can always leave.
Are you an orphan? Did your turk step-dad rape you?

>>511220534
If we call Great Value gladio ragtag team so, so be it

>>511196131 (OP)
It’s not important. Just give it up. Ukraine didn’t need that land anyway

>>511198498
lmao

>>511196131 (OP)
I am watching pro Ukrainian channels and they are winning at all fronts. Putin in shambles, Russia about to collapse.

>>511196131 (OP)
Two more weeks!

>>511196131 (OP)
>Can someone explain the importance of this town?
Zero importance just like whole of Ukraine. Russia should take it all

>>511196131 (OP)
It was important when it served as a road junction leading to Bakhmut, but that road was already cut like a year ago.
It's no longer important, just another bombed out ruin.

>>511196841
Stinky will be this wars Stalingrad that decides the outcome, millions will die to hold it

>>511208306
Why can't the US win a war? Why haven't we tried against an actual opponent in 100 years?
There comes a point where you realize your loyalty to Israel is badly placed

>>511219528
>begs for IMMEDIATE and UNCONDITIONAL ceasefire for months now

Almost as desperate as your denial. nafotroons are mindbroken by their defeat

>>511196131 (OP)
What a mistake it was for Ukraine to ally with the west, now they will lose half of their country to Russia
Was it so bad to just stay neutral? They would probably still have Crimea today, fucking dumbasses

The city will not fall, the AFU have already a plan in place for when the russian troop enter the city.
They have resisted for an entire year and they are going to resist for more time.

>>511221985
Go back to watching TV2, you dumb cigány.

>>511196131 (OP)
I want it!

>>511222606
>nothing left but pure rage as cuckraine is desperately begging for a ceasefire

>>511222329
They are incredibly lucky if they lose only half by now.

>>511222978
>They are incredibly lucky if they lose only half by now.
And I assume the Liberators will just fly over the Dnieper on broomsticks.

>>511223426
>cuckraine is desperately begging for an immediate ceasefire
>but they are totally going to win, just wait for the next counteroffensive!

>>511223578
Answer the question, cigány. Will they as Rey Skywalker to fly troops across the Dnieper in the Millennium Falcon, or will they ask Thanos to teleport them over?

>>511201913
Russia is the type of nation that can actually have centralized directive to increase the birthrate should they choose. Nationalist campaigns are just as good as bullshit liberal capitalist incentives like credits.

>>511223949
>cuckraine is desperately begging for an immediate ceasefire

Lmao, this single line keeps breaking nafotroons

>>511209728
They never "controlled" that initial territory. It wasn't a million-man blitz. What they are doing now however is permanently establishing control, expanding at a pace where they don't have to worry about their rear or mass insurgency.

>>511196131 (OP)
not really more important than other cities, the only point of note is that the amount of troops defending the city is double the UK army in size. and so is the number of troops assaulting it.

DRUUUUMPF HYELP
stfu kikelebsky im too busy raping kids okay? Big beautiful children rape and kill them terrific

>>511224394
>NONONONONO WE MUST GET BACK TO MY IMAGINARY THING!!!!
>NONONONO YOU ARE BUCK BROKEN NOT ME!
We already discussed your delusion thoroughly.

Now answer again, Dohány-utca anon. How will the heroic antifa liberators cross the Dnieper? Will Harry Potter use the Dnieperocrossium spell on them, or will Tony Stark build an tunneling machine?

>511224615
>cuckraine is desperately begging for an immediate ceasefire

Literally out of the mouth of zelensky. Troons cannot cope with reality anymore. No more (You)s for "engagement metrics" btw. :)

>>511224801
>asking = desperately begging
>unconditional ceasefire = literally sets conditions
Aw, delusional baby can't cope with the grownup world, how cute!

Still didn't answer how the antifas will cross the Dnieper. Probably Steven Universe will ask the gems to combine or something like that.

>>511196131 (OP)
Its a killbox for goyim. Important stage of the Kalergi plan.

>>511213909
you listen to women?

>>511200251
your enemy is just about as corrupt and incompetent you just have resources

>>511204149
they beat georgia recently via a combined arms assault

>511225082
>cuckraine is desperately begging for an immediate ceasefire

>>511216011
It'll be given in negotiations to save Western Kiev.

>>511225225
This is why Russia won the war and liberated Keev in three days, right?

>>511225436
Uh oh! It broke and went into a loop!

>>511210980
>coca cola

wtf?

>>511196986
>I never go there
IDK bro it sounds like you spend a lot of time there

>>511215138
it was strategically irrelevant, which of course of why ukraine spent so much time and energy fortifying and defending it. all ukrainian soldiers have died for 'strategically irrelevant' territory, which i'm sure is what their families were told too. 'your son/husband/father/brother died a pointless death in a meaningless battle for a strategically irrelevant position'. if you want a real answer, the point was the battle itself, pinning down large ukrainian manpower reserves that could've been used in their summer '23 offensive, without using russian regular forces which were depleted from '22 and still waiting for mobilised forces to be brought up to combat readiness. additionally it was a stepping stone to chasov yar, which is the real operational prize in the sector. that town sits on high ground that overlooks the the remaining fortified cities in donbass that ukraine still holds. the russians have almost total control over it, and slavyansk and kramatorsk sit in the lowland, without that high ground those two cities are practically indefensible

>>511217272
i am screenshotting this lol. i will be posting it in November when russia is still around and had encircled and begun storming another city

>>511225993
>wall of text generic copium without any punctuation or uppercase

>>511217730
all wars are to some extent wars of attrition actually

>>511196131 (OP)
336 more hours

>>511218797
sure thing pajeet

>511225499
>cuckraine is desperately begging for an immediate ceasefire

NOTHING makes trannies more upset than repeating simple facts. They cant bullshit or cope their way around it, cant lie, cant kvetch it away, they cant convince themselves that everything is fine, just nothing works.

>>511225993
There is a significant chance that the entirety of ukraine becomes strategically irrelevant, much like Afghanistan one day.

>>511199850
>what comes after when they've exhausted their military and bankrupted the country?

>>511226442
should've known not to give a good faith answer to an ESL zogdog. i thought they stopped paying you guys to post after USaid went down the toilet

>>511227012
You're an Indian.

>>511227012
These are the indoctrinated True Believers. They are so emotionally invested in cuckraine and being a zogbot that they do it for free.

>>511227308
Oh look, projection.

>>511227135
>vigilant nafo boyo is still running his anti-ruzzian shift
+0.00001 McDonald’s tokens so you could afford a small pcs of nuggets after you’re done here for today, shitskin

>>511224615
>it’s totally not us, the ukraine niggers, shitting up the media with despicable marvel-themed slop since day one

>>511227694
>some incoherent imitated memespeak
They're not sending their brightest here, it seems.

Though I guess the "brightest" have already been blown to smitheroons by some evil nazi zoomer with a toy drone years ago.

>>511227823
So you know the answer on how the antifa liberators will cross the Dnieper? Is it the Avengers? Or will they ride on the backs of dementors?

>>511227979
Zigger bros… le DEMORALISATION… it’s just too good… le MIND BROKENNESS is too tidal… I believe the ukranny’s special “we never needed it anyway” is the prevailing doctrine now…

>>511196131 (OP)
There isnt a single settlement in Ukraine thats actually important. Maybe Kiev, maybe. This is a war fought by retards over nothing of value.

>>511197580
Stinky
Pinky
Twinky
Winky
Kinky

>>511227135
lol

>>511227308
>>511227649
Gentleman, you cant fight in here , this is the war room

>>511196131 (OP)
Russia needs Odesa. its right below kiev, pretty close and a port city for extremely easy transport of equipment and staging. Its honestly bizzare its been barely targeted

>>511204779
this is true but a defense line is only good if there are enough men in it. Ukraine #1 problem is manpower.

>>511228732
>megapoorfag hungry skeleton incel
Only slightly better. Judging by how you write your poverty is likely your own fault, because you're dumb too.

>>511228123
Zisters... n-no Queef in three days?

>>511202791
If they're killing gorillions of Russians in a stalemate meatgrinder surely they could produce more than 78?

>>511229606
you literally live in a third world gyppo shithole, but you go right on ahead and keep projecting

>>511225993
Also the ~7 months they spent there gave the Russians time to build the Surovikin line

>>511230119
And I still wear two Omegas, brokie. Not a banged-up LCD Casio, like a child.

>>511196131 (OP)
>Pokrovsk fall imminent
zigroids have been saying this for over a year

>>511204616
>We have 20:1 ratio
>But we keep moving the lines back
>And we never collect the bodies, we just let them pile up

>>511196841
imagine getting droned in stinky

>>511207559
>When we invade its 1:1 ratio
>But when they invade its 20:1 in our favor
Right....

Imagine how fucked Ukraine would be if Putin wasn't a big softie

>>511231506
Yes faggot
90% of ukraine deaths are from artillery and glide bombs. Russia sends small teams to spot targets and then calls in the locations.
Its not rocket science, troom shill

>>511203868
> Russians are dying by the thousands in meat wave assaults.
they are
>If that was the case surely you could grab the few bodies falling in front of you?
Why would you waste time on effort on such a pointless task?

>>511225499
Russia was at kiev. If they decided to raze that city it wouldve been over and you know it. Youre in denial about russian capabilities. This is why nothing youve said has ever come true, your 2-week timelines of the russian collapse have been wrong for 4 years now and there is no indication its gonna be happening at all in the future, au contraire. In short, you lost tranny.

>>511231603
putlermort is actually quite devious. Rather than bombing everything then policing the rubble for 20 years against guerillas, the slow boil is way more effective. Enemies will van and send all the men to frontline for you where they can be bombed and droned until they run out.

>>511232419
You must have video of this then.
Troon shills on suicide watch

>>511228732
Gigabased masculine F91W connoisseur. I wear the same watch, they’ve been with me through thick and thin and still work just fine
>>511229606
Actual teen nigger with no taste
>b-but what about my le smug strawman…
The reality is Pokrovsk never mattered so the ukraine takes another step back. Spinning it into victory will defo take some effort

>>511231023
it only needs to tell the time. first off I don't believe you. second, even if what you said were true you are poor and bad with money because you spend it all on flashy toys to signal your status (or lack thereof). third, you are not white. please continue to be asspained by my existence

>>511232649
There have been plenty of videos of Russians getting BTFO. As a matter of fact, /pol/tards were crying a year or two ago about it and how evil and demonic Westerners are for laughing at such videos. You can look for it on your own time.

>>511233227
I wear the a168 or something like that, the chrono is more reliable and doesn't need to be resynced as often. i do have 10 × f91w for friends for if there's ever a SHTF scenario. phones may become useless and telling the time is handy

>>511233609
>/pol/tards were crying a year or two ago about it and how evil and demonic Westerners are for laughing at such videos
Not exactly. It’s the same isis glownigger playbook nafoniggers like you are desperate to implement. What’s even better it backfired miraculously

>>511233857
>What’s even better it backfired miraculously
russians stopped getting buttfucked by drones?

>>511233609
surely you have footage of these thousand man human wave assaults and mass casualty events? or is it all just lone unarmed man in non-descript fatigues? i wonder what ukrainian blocking detachments do when the trench meat flees without orders?

>>511233845
Based, thanks

>>511234054
The ukraine began losing aficionados or potential rooters. In fact this little glownigger gore shtick coupled with smug retarded nafoniggers’ spam accomplished way more than all Russian propaganda outlets combined in terms of making people root for Russia or take a double check at the ukraine

it's not important at all, just like Bakhmut

>>511234090
as I said, you're free to look for it on your own time

>>511234360
People stopped paying close attention to the Ukraine because the front stopped moving, not because Russian soldiers were being mocked, lol. No one has any sympathy for them, no one ever will

>>511234115
stay dangerous russbro

>>511234514
>front stopped moving
>>511234397
unlike you i'm not such a ghoulish creature that i go out of my way to watch people die. neither russian nor ukrainian

>>511233361
>literally shaking with anger projection
K.

>>511204779
That line is quickly built without using any heavy machinery (as any that close to the fronlines is getting destroyed). It has 1/10 defence capacity of a normal defense line.

>>511234836
>I'M NOT MAD YOU'RE MAD
brother go for a walk and enjoy beauty. bring joyousness back to your heart

>>511234708
>unlike you i'm not such a ghoulish creature that i go out of my way to watch people die
then why are you asking for videos of it?
and yes, I consider 50km in two years to be irrelevant, it isn't enough for me to actually come here and discuss the topic

>>511235176
because I know such videos do not exist. there are no russian '1000 man human wave assault mass casualty event' videos. you look foolish for perpetuating such a stupid narrative

>>511235864
Ok. Well, you're free to believe what you want, it doesn't really matter.

>>511196570
>Ukraine has an endless amount of defensive lines to fall back on forever is not true but I am not sure
Yes. There is also supposedly a ton of bunkers and military fortifications that where built in the soviet era which are still very useful. This is just going to go on at a slow rate until either side runs out of men/equipment or decide that enough is enough.