Thread 511214957

Russians fell for the oldest Anglo trick in the book in Ukraine

Spaniards said Portugal was a fake nation & that Portugal belonged to Spain & that Portuguese was a corrupted version of Spanish. Spain tried to conquer Portugal, but was blocked by the British giving Portugal unlimited aid.

America tried to conquer Canada in 1812 to create a buffer state vs. Britain, but Britain gave Canada unlimited aid to keep Canada afloat, thus America never got its buffer state in Canada.

Similar dynamics exist between Russia & Ukraine.

For all of the Russian propagandists screeching about Anglos, they never studied Anglo tactics.

>>511214957 (OP)
anglo chads i kneel

>>511214957 (OP)
Angloids cannot keep this up without an empire to tap though.

>>511214957 (OP)

No one understands the British Empire and its tactics or how it won ww2. It used its subjects to tie a noose around Germany starving it and supplied Russia then pitted the 2 dogs against each causing mass casualties and when Russia almost won it got America involved in a rush to beat Russia.

>>511214957 (OP)
But Portugal IS a fake nation. Created by (((galician))) aristocrats to undemine Leonese superiority. There weren't a unified portuguese people. There wasn't a common language different from galician. It was a ploy nobles and the vatican to destroy Hispania.

>>511214957 (OP)
Same with India and Pakistan

>>511215425
Based iberist luso-fren noticer.

>>511215425
Then why was Portugal more relevant in history then Spain? Plus your simply ignoring Aragon, Spain failed itself for not force cultural conversation of them and still suffer the mistake.

>>511215821
Delusional

>>511215425
Holy based.

>>511214957 (OP)
Spanish is the simplified and dumbed down version of Portuguese.

>>511215892
Don't feel bad, you did better then Austria in failing to enforce a one people mind set and getting wrecked by it.

>>511215250
The USA got in in 1941 after the japanese attacked us in a sneak attack. Youre a lunatic.

>>511214957 (OP)
ANGLOS ANGLOS ANGLOS ANGLOS

>>511216095
russia didn't have enough to go all the way, they were exhausted by 41. The brits kept them on life support until lend lease

>>511215919
why?

>>511214957 (OP)
So close yet so far.

What you're failing to see is that those countries in this case (Portugal, Ukraine, Canada) are proxies of London.

>>511217202
And London is a proxy of Tel Aviv. The Anglo is not master in his own house, he is a servant of the Jew.

The DOT is YELLOW

>>511216095
A sneak attack that the Roosevelt administration did all they could to provoke. They played on the Japo fear of the United States until the Japs were convinced that they had to strike first and decisively or be destroyed.

>>511214957 (OP)
>Spaniards said Portugal was a fake nation & that Portugal belonged to Spain & that Portuguese was a corrupted version of Spanish. Spain tried to conquer Portugal
The Anglo Portuguese alliance predates Spain's existence and was due to English Crusaders aiding the reconquista against the Umayyads.
>but Britain gave Canada unlimited aid to keep Canada afloat
Canada was Britain. It wasn't independent.

>>511214957 (OP)
>muh Russian propagandists
topkek nafotroons are still at it?

>>511215250
Not a fan of shitanians but this was very based

>>511214957 (OP)
Portugal existed before Spain, unlike Ukraine, which was only created after Russia had existed for centuries.

>>511214957 (OP)
what sloppy parallels. ukraine is genetically and historically russian. the fact that monke refuses the idea of total annexation of it into the RF is pure treason.

>>511215821
>Then why was Portugal more relevant in history then Spain?
Are you a brazilian living in Australia? This is beyond coping

>>511218228

Which is exactly what the US said about 14th colony canada & what Spain said about Portugal.

>>511218180
>unlike Ukraine, which was only created after Russia had existed for centuries.
Actually Ukraine predates Russia (If you consider Russia's founding to be the Rurik dynasty).

>>511218180
Ehh. Russian Federation was formed in '91.

>>511218463
>& what Spain said about Portugal.
>>511217844

England knows its reign is over if the existence of a unified europe ever happens, this is why most european wars happened whenever a power attempted to unite the countries into one empire. The German Reich, the Napoleon Empire, the Habgsburgs, the Holy Roman Empire. Britain had always been the unseen hand behind their fall

>>511218616
How did Britain destroy the HRE exactly? They became a political non entity after the Swedes butchered them and officially ended after Napoleon dismantled it.

>>511218488
>Actually Ukraine predates Russia
Not even close
>If you consider Russia's founding to be the Rurik dynasty
Rurick ruled in Novgorod

>>511219178
>Not even close
No, Prince Oleg conquered Kiev in 882.
>Rurick ruled in Novgorod
Yeah Rurik did. He's the founder of the family, his descendents are who founded Moscow and their branch is who became the Tzars of Russia.

>>511219178
>>511219519
>russniggers endlessly debating which finnish chad founded their useless shithole
and after that it was conquered by mongols and us lol

>>511216095
Russians had a mole at the highest levels of the axis who informed them of the attack, who then passed that info to the British, who tactically withheld it(roosevelt knew he was Winnie’s cousin)

>>511215250
And all it cost them was....
>Total collapse of it's empire, largest in history btw.
>Full mudslime sand niggers and shitjeet invasion.
>Paki rape gangs who are a protected class.
Yeh m8 nobody gets it aye, when your empire collapses thats actually winning LMFAO!!! retard faggot.
>Pic semirelated & kino-adjacent.

>>511219949
We know they were Varangians, who are Norse not Finnish. Though possibly they were from territory now within Finnland.

>>511215250
Was it worth it?

>>511216095
Your government sent away and refused to see any japanese diplomats and completely cut off communications amongst other things. Your government wanted the war, and your people got duped into it.

>>511214957 (OP)
WHEN Zionist Don announce the draft you'll be glad that Canada is a separate country from the USA, see you then! Get good at swimming/boating on Lake Ontario.

>>511215821
Portuguese here, you are too kind and wrong

>>511215425
t. João Gonzalez

>>511220648
>Your government sent away and refused to see any japanese diplomats and completely cut off communications amongst other things.
Given what they did to the Chinese, Dutch and British. America was 100% justified to cut off diplomatic relations.

>>511216095
You baited them hard

>>511217620
No. Tel Aviv is a semi-independent proxy of London.

>>511214957 (OP)
Ukraine is Russia and has russian people. It will be retaken back.

Portugal has been a british shipping offshore port . Brits used portugal as their flag for their shipping when they either needed an offshore flag on the ship or they wanted to do nefarious things under a flag other than british.

>>511221019
Who runs America?

>>511221273
Canada is Britain's North American shipping port.

Ukraine & Crimea are NATO shipping ports on the Black Sea.

Same difference.

>>511215425
>But Portugal IS a fake nation. Created by (((galician))) aristocrats t
Exactly. It was always used as an offshore shipping flag .

>>511215250
>britain won ww2
this version of history belongs at the kids table

>>511221370
>Ukraine & Crimea are RUSSIA'S shipping ports on the Black Sea.
And will always be.

You'll be fine with your ports in Israel.

that's why russia needs to take all of ukraine and don't settle for a ceasefire. this deprives the uk of 1 of their 2 goals, which is to exploit western ukraine after a ceasefire.

>>511214957 (OP)
>Spain tried to conquer Portugal, but was blocked by the British giving Portugal unlimited aid.
England was still a shithole when Portugal regained independence

>>511221445

Russia is an Asian nation, Russia's natural waters are the Pacific. Russians naturally belong in Asia, not Europe. Only consolation for Russia is that they get to keep their Arctic ports too. Israel & Russia are both Asia nations.

>>511216095
you economically blockaded them
which is a decleration of war

THE AN*LO IS ALWAYS AN AGRESSOR

>>511215164
And without industry there can be no empire. However long they might live on the fumes of an industry no longer extant, they can not do this again.

>>511214957 (OP)
>For all of the Russian propagandists screeching about Anglos, they never studied Anglo tactics.
You literally have shit for brains. China cut you off important resources. You wont be able to wage war soon and Russias economy is barely dented by this conflict.

>>511214957 (OP)
No one cares what tactics you used when you’re all euroaches and will be wiped out of the book of Life. Out of desperation you will submit to black magic and will still loose irregardless.

>>511215250
>how it won ww2.
The Bongs lost the WWII, WWII was made to destroy the French and the British Empires.

>>511222067

Putin works for Chabad & believes in superstitions. Putin is the Black Magician himself.

>>511221665
Russia is a home to 2 largest Y DNA white european haplogroups, R1a and R1b.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_R1a
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_R1b

However, as of right now, since Western Europe is really a slave state run by globohomo oligarchs and king families.
And kings / feudals have been killing anyone who disagrees with them.
You have conquered slave nations in Western Europe, and people who fight do not be slaves in Eastern Europe and Russia.
This division has been happening for centuries. So you have 2 distinctly different groups in Western Europe and in Russia that aren't compatible.

Russia has 150 small asian nationalities on its territory , that doesn't make it an Asian nation.
However, Russia always knows that they will be constantly attacked by western retards as west run out of resources
> (since the west cannot develop proper econnomies as all brains have been killed in western europe).

>>511214957 (OP)
Rule Britannia and what not

>>511222648
>You have conquered slave nations in Western Europe, and people who fight do not be slaves in Eastern Europe and Russia.
>This division has been happening for centuries. So you have 2 distinctly different groups in Western Europe and in Russia that aren't compatible.

It's the exact other way around. Russia was enslaved under the Tatar Yoke, that's how Russia/Ukraine separated.

Similar to how Canadians chose King George's Yoke & how Portuguese chose Galician yoke.

>>511223213
Tatars and Mongols don't exist.
They were debunked by modern DNA science.
It's british and jewish lie.
The REALITY is that those were Russian armies who enslaved people when they attacked them.

>>511214957 (OP)
Remind me again who China is allied with.

>>511223319

China only gives Russia & Iran civilian tech, as Russia is supposed to make its own military tech. Iran was supplying Russia before, but the Israel-Iran conflict caused Iran to stop supplying Russia. It's just North Korea helping Russia now.

>>511221019
>Its really the Anglos!

Take one look at Tel Aviv and another at London and its clear who is in service to who. Both cities are developing according to Jewish tastes; Tel Aviv as a bastion of Judaism and London as a cloaca gentium. The Jews control the money and the Anglo elite bow and scrape to make sure they are not deprived of it.

>>511216481
DINDU NOTHING FINDU NOTHING DINDU NOTHING DINDU NOTHING

>>511214957 (OP)
portugals got different dna then spain

>>511214957 (OP)
slavs are generally oblivious to the (((hybrid warfare))).
soviet union was somewhat better but even it didn't manage to do much more than end up being extremely paranoid, it just couldn't follow the westoid lead for long

>>511221287
Split between Boston Brahmins, City of London/Wall Street, and American nationalist families behind Trump.

>>511223591
No. It's the Jews in the City of London.

>>511215250
true, except substitute "the british empire" with "the (((rulers))) of the former british empire"

>>511223549
Russia gives China and Iran all the tech.
Russian scientists are by far ahead of chinese ones in the real science.
China is just a world's factory where the world produces stuff.

>>511217620
yes

>>511215425
TRVKE

>>511223925
>portugals got different dna then spain
Yeah. Mine.

>>511223319
>global steel production , China
>still cannot make quality steel
>chinese steel is crap.
In US there's literally a Billlion $ / year industry where engineers go around and test massive amounts of chinese steel that lands in US for quality.
>lots of chinese steel that ended in places like bridges and cranes is crap
>cranes collapsed

>>511224492
>chinese steel is crap
Indian steel makes Chinese steel look a lot better.

>>511224354
>China is just a world's factory where the world produces stuff.
VJDHT

>>511224354
>Russian scientists are by far ahead of chinese ones in the real science.

Then why is the Su-57 15 years behind schedule?

>>511214957 (OP)
>Blocked by the British
Retard, where were the "british" in the 12th century?
>Spain
"Spain" didn't exist until the 16th century.

>>511214957 (OP)
>Similar dynamics exist between Russia & Ukraine.
Keep dreaming

>>511215425
Kys

>>511215724
LMAO

>>511215425
>There wasn't a common language different from galician
Up to this day I am kind of amazed how similiar portuguese and galician are.

>>511214957 (OP)
Russians are too dumb to fell for any tricks, they are just subhumans niggernation that attacks its neighbors this is all there is to it - Japan, Finland, Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Hungary, Afghanistan, Moldova, Azerbaijan, Georgia and now Ukraine.

>>511225038
Muslim invasion & the subsequent reconquista separated Spain from Portugal, yes, but a similar phenomenon took place after the Mongols took over Russia. That's how the Ukrainian/Russian identities split apart. The Mongols converted to Islam, so similar Islam-related dynamics.

1.

The true about Portugal is that they are a shadow of Spain.

Their identity is based around Lusitanian, an extixt tribe that had their capital in southwest Castile, in what is today Merida. As well Suevi, but they never did hold Galicia. Their own local version of broken Latin comes from Galicia, but they never did hold Galicia. Unlike Spain, a nation dating back to Visigoths who conquered the whole peninsula and unified it into a centralized nation with capital in Toledo and royal institutions (Aula Regia, Council, etc.) in Toledo as well. Saint Isidore os Seville in the III Council of Toledo after Recaredus conversion to Catholicism, was the first to mention Spain as a political and social subject.

Portugal in itself was born from a rebel county of the Kingdom of Leon, just as Castile. They never got any identity besides this. Leon and Castile unified and reconquered the capital city of Spain, Toledo, the city of the Goths, the city of the kings, the city of the 3 cultures, and there the kings got crowned Imperators Totius Hispaniae.

Even the Aragonese recognized the authority of the title.

Then the Castilianleonese kingdom unified with Aragon, and reconquered Granada from the Moors and Navarra from the French during the times of Catholic Kings. And Philip II reconquered Portugal some decades later.

>>511227220
2.


Spain was thus finally unified under a legit king, as during times of Visigoths. Then a count in Portugal leaded a rebellion against Philip IV and thus Portugal was reborn as a non legit vassal kingdom of Netherlands and Britain, enemies of Spain in the ambit of religious wars in Europe between Latin Catholic south against Protestant German north.

And ever since Portuguese have had a lot of troubles to justify their own existence. They have lead the major investigations on Spanish antiquity to find some short of justification. For Spain it is easy. Our monarchy thrace back to Visigoths, all the medieval chronicles pf León such as the Chronicle of Alfonso III and the Albedensian Chronicle stated the heritage from Recaredus to Rodrigo to Pelayo to Alfonso III.

But Portugal? They do have a hard time, their very own counts lacked of royal blood.

Even Catalonia and Basque Country have stronger arguments against Spain. Basques by factually claiming a Prehistoric aboriginal linguistic, racial and cultural heritage. Catalonians by claiming being a Carolingian province. There are still many arguments against these. But their historiography is stronger than the Portuguese.

>>511221287
The Anglos. We never stopped being an appanage of the Crown.

>>511215425
Rare brother truther. Viva Iberia.

>>511214957 (OP)
Shut your ass up, your pedo president is owned by the JEWS due to epstein's blackmail!

I yearn for HISPANIA MAGNA. The one thing the anglogolem fears.

>>511214957 (OP)
>unlimited aid
>Sorry saar can only into give 200 longbowmen.
>Also i stab you in back countless times throughout our alliance saar.

I will never forget. You fucking niggers.

>>511229054
Ukraine makes similar complaints.

>>511230057
yes

Another 1PBTID thread, huh?

Anyways, it was not just due to the Luso-Anglo alliance. It was mostly the fact that the Sp*niards are an inferior people and probably the only nation that God made lower than the Jews. That is all.

>>511228942
Why don't you do it?

>>511228942
How embarrassing.

>>511215425
50 megaton trvke

>>511229054
>Sorry saar can only into give 200 longbowmen.
Lmao
Is that true

>>511233496
One of many such episodes, yes. There were some exceptions, like in the case of the Napoleonic Wars, but yes, that's basically it.

>>511227220
>>511227283
That's a very nice cope and all, but don't forget to return Olivença. You've been squatting for too long.

>SAAAAAAAAAR ITS THE ANGLOS FAULT LIKE IN INDIA, PORTUGAL IS FAKE LIKE PAKISTAN

Typical delusional jeet thread, I can even see the usual VPNfags. Portugal is one of the first nation states in the world and has nearly 1000 years of unbroken history chained together with its glorious history. Cope with it.

>>511215425
every european country is a fake nation since WWII. we have all been turned into economic zones divided over minutia like dialects and "culture" (lmao) while being silently invaded by hordes of niggers and pajeets who will never assimilate.
this will no longer be the case in 50 years tho. when the multiculturalism bubble bursts then we will see hundrends of countries popping up everywhere in this continent, like what happened in Africa post-decolonization and soon India

>>511234221
Are jeets still seething irrationally about Goa?

>>511234221
tell me one single thing that sets portuguese people apart from the spanish. one, just one. LITERALLY NOTHING.
we are the exact same people, with the exact same blood and DNA admixture, who historically went through the exact same hardships, and similar developments. the jews would rather have you believe Portuguese identity extends only to Brazil and CPLP niggers, but NOT Spain. fucking bullshit. its time to abolish the borders between Portugal and Spain and close it to everyone else, including the EU

>>511215821
retarded

>>511235392
Not true, we have way more African blood. We are MAVRI BVLLS

>>511221653
Let it go, Americans live in an alternate reality.

>>511233721
You have no monarchy.
The monarchy you had lacked of any royal blood of the Visigothic elites that legitimized the Reconquista.
You don't hold Toledo.
You don't hold Covadonga.
You don't hold Oviedo.
You don't hold León.
You don't hold Compostela.
You don't hold Merida.

Basically all the historical capitals and institutions that historically legitimated Spanish state since Early Middle-Ages, are in the hands of Spain.

Even the most important literature written in Galician was made up by scholars of Alfonso X in Toledo.

Seethe, cope, dilate. The trvke for you is that you are a rebel province colonized by Dutch and British.

>>511227283
>Our monarchy thrace back to Visigoths
Thanks for the shitpost, but this is not a good thing. Visigoths were absolutely braindead retards who lost the entire peninsula to the Moors.

>>511235795
that arab mixture varies more from region to region than from country to country

>>511229054
This is more accurate.

>>511236055
>You have no monarchy.
Aye. A great tragedy, I agree. But that is beside the point, you're merely insincerely pushing stupid criteria for what "real countries" are, which is a dumb little game that I will not entertain.

Anyway, please vacate Olivença immediately. That is a disputed territory for which you hold absolutely no legitimate claim and that was signed away by your own filthy synagogue of a country and needs to be returned.

Cumps.

>>511236055
we held thousands of african nigger slaves tho

>>511214957 (OP)
lol are you a pajeet? how many different countries do you need to mention to make your tiresome shill point about jewkraine?
lmao

>>511221665
>Russians naturally belong in Asia
Another retarded amerimutt stating his groundbreaking theories about europeans and their origin

>>511236219
Go and submit to Moroccans then, it was a Visigoth who started the Reconquista and it was the restoration of the Regnum Visigothorum, legitimed by Roman emperor as vassal rulers of Spain in their abscense, the cause of the war on the Saracens.

>"The Goths succumbed, some to the edge of the sword and others to the ravages of hunger. However, some of royal lineage escaped, heading for France, and others, the majority, penetrated the land of the Astures and elected as their prince Pelagius, son of Duke Favila and of royal blood."
Chronicle of Alfonso III, IX century.

>>511236762
actual europeans have actual european country flags they can show.
do you?

>>511215425
Franco was Galego

>>511236769
>was a Visigoth who started the Reconquista
Well it was the least they could do after one of the biggest fumbles in history.

>>511235392
>the people are the same
Why not extend to France and Italy too? What do we have in common with Catalans who don't even want to belong to the country they are in. Portugal's borders are almost 1000 years old, I live where my ancestors lived in the country they built. You bring up CPLP but you yourself are aligned with the globohomo.

>>511236884
And he didn't annex Portugal even though he easily could've with no one to stop him... curious!

>>511236717

Because you have the nerve to complain about Zelensky when he's a based Jewish Nazi per Russia while simultaneously overlooking Putin's hand picked Russian Jewish Prime Minister.

>>511237288
Serious question: are all your posts in this thread just shitposts? Or were you dropped as a babby?

>>511237305
i complained about jewlensky huh?
that would make me the off-topic shitbag instead of you wouldn't it

>>511237388
Not my fault you are literally retarded.

what even is the topic here? portugal and spain? does it matter? no of course not. it's just another directionless pajeet-generated slide thread wasting time and space

>>511236876
no need to get butthurt, pablito. I was just stating a fact that most of you pieces of mystery meat are schizophrenic and spout delusional shit

>>511237463
I'm not even going to challenge you on your absolute inanities. Carry on, lad, keep having fun or whatever this whole thing is.

pajeets hide behind free memeflags instead of expensive vpn because they are saving money for scam credentials to migrate to their chosen host organism/nation. they have to conceal their identity which is synonymous with that agenda, or else they are simply ignored as the spam they are

the majority of pajeets on /pol/ try to hide the fact that they're pajeets. in addition to "leaving that part out" they will proactively, persistently misrepresent their true form. pajeets are all about assuming other people's roles, from today's outsourcing and replacement migration all the way back to thuggee bandits lying to travelers about who they were. pajeets are devoid of their own identity, making them the ideal globalized goyim. they don't want a home where they belong. all that means to them is "compete in squalor." much better to go somewhere nicer, built by other people, and do their jobs for less pay and live slum-barracks life in their suburbs. pajeets don't want to be home. they also don't want to be pajeets. jews know exactly how to play their insecurities and dopey ambitions like the innocent rube fresh off the bus from the cornfield. this is their new golem to replace the ones that don't love them anymore

>>511236055
Conveniently leaving out Bracara, which was the capital of both Gallaecia and the Suebi Kingdom

>The monarchy you had lacked of any royal blood of the Visigothic elites that legitimized the Reconquista
Why do you need to "legitimize" it? The first king of Portugal was only accepted as king after going to war with the Moors. He was a true warrior king and didn't need to call back to his ancestors from centuries past to "legitimize" his conquest

all pajeets are working for jews, including the ones who perform antisemitism and say all the things they learned to say on /pol/. they are also serving the jew agenda. how? by speaking english and living in everyone else's countries. spectre, multiculturalism, mass migration, kalergi plan. don't even bother acting like pajeets oppose jews in any way. they support jews simply by their nature, by crowding into every opening gatekeepers offer them to enter the west and degrade it

>>511237661
Ele nem é Português, só alguém com dor de cu

>>511237958
>>511238015
holy schizophrenia. that's exactly what i was talking about lmao. seek help, buddy

>>511215821
>Then why was Portugal more relevant in history then Spain?
What the hell did I just read??

>>511237218
Arabs BTFOed Persian and Roman empire, as well conquered all of Africa and almost conquered France.
Visigothic kings didn't fail, given they did war on Muslims for the next centuries.

>>511237227
>Why not extend to France and Italy too
because they are genetically more distant, speak incomprehensible tongues, dont have much of a common history with us etc.
>You bring up CPLP but you yourself are aligned with the globohomo
right now we are border free with latin america, and certain african countries (not to speak of the pajeets and muslims). by ending that you'd actually be decreasing globohomo by going back to common roots that are millenia old

>>511238829
What about catalonian, how did it survive Spanish?

Portugal is friend.

>>511214957 (OP)
>oldest Anglo trick in the book

>hiding like a bitch while they take your land

It's the anglo way! lol

>>511240735
Yup

>>511226126
Lol
Seethe moar, retard

>>511227220
>Blahblahblah
<Yawn>
El cope

>>511240696
No Regrets?

>>511225038
colon named the first island in the americas "la española" because he saw the future, he knew that in the next century spain would be born
thats why he went east in the first place

>>511243455
>The future
Lmao
If he had, he'd name it la niggerinna lol....

>>511227220
>they never did hold Galicia
that's where you are wrong kiddo a faggot from there invaded and they held Galicia six months or so because the King of Castile was in Burgos or whatever and a nobleman betrayed our Kang, Portugal even moved the royal court to Coruña, because everybody knows Portugal sucks ass, ofc they were kicked out without fight because the fuck can they do against mighty Castile.

>>511238061
Your whole country was born as a rebel county of Leonese Kingdom, which came from the Visigoths who conquered the whole peninsula in the VI century.

You never got any legitimazy. And that's a thing, and that's the cause of why Portuguese historians have always seeked to reivindicate in obscure ways extinct kinds, which for more INRI, lived or had their seats in Spanish soil.

But even ignoring that, Portugal was just a rebel country of Leon, contemporary Portugal rebelled against a legitimate king in 1642, a rebellion lead by an usurper without legitimacy by the institutions.

The war on the Moors give you no credit since it was a war started by Visigoths to restore the Rengum of the Visigoths which was the only kingdom in the peninsula with the approval from Roman goverment to rule in its abscense.

>>511243455
>>511243574
Ohhh, I get it!...
He saw *the future* (Spain full of negros...)

>>511236769
>it was a Visigoth who started the Reconquista and it was the restoration of the Regnum Visigothorum
its not clear if paloya was a visigoth, the name isnt a visigotith name, but we dont know
>>511243875
retard macacoooooooooooooooooooo

IIRC, Portugal broke loose from Spain because Olivares tried to increase taxation
So it was like the Dutch and American revolts -- a quarrel over money.

Why do foreigners now veer to increase tension in Iberia?

Why are you trying to turn us into the Balkans?

There is no animosity between Portugal and Spain.

>>511214957 (OP)
>Portuguese was a corrupted version of Spanish.
That part is retarded. Spanish is a creole.

>>511244043
>a quarrel over money
And same can be said about English civil that broke out a few years later -- the king trying to force the whole country to pay "ship money"

>>511244145
Both Portuguese and Castillian are Latin vernaculars.

Both imperfect in their own ways.

>>511243962
Seethe, coño

>>511243455
Don't remind Portuguese to read the conciliary acts of the Councils of Toledo.

>"Third Toledo Council of 62 bishops, in which the Arian heresy in Spain is condemned." In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, in the fourth year of the reign of the most glorious, most pious, and most faithful to God, Lord Recaredo, on the 6th of May, 627, this holy council was held in the royal city of Toledo by the bishops of all Spain and Gaul who signed it afterward.

>>511214957 (OP)
Brits have been fucking with the Russians since the 1600s when Russia LOST the Crimean war to Turks, England, France, and some random Moslems in Crimea.

>>511244364
But the Visigoths were Arians for two centuries.
Practicing castism and endogamy. Not mixing with Catholics.

How does this affect modern relations?

>>511244508
The Crimean war happened in 1830s.
Not 1600s.

What are you smoking?

>>511243962
The chronicles which are the primary source stat that he was a Visigoth from the royal family, an Spatharian from the court of Rodrigo.

Anything written by republicans and reds in the last decades to erase the nation to set the base for a new North African Jihad is irrelevant to the case.

Saint Isidore of Sevilla was half-Gothic and his name was Greek.

So returning to the primary sources from people of the time and witnessed all the events, he was, indeed, a Visigoth.

>>511244567
Dom Pelágio was the cousin of Dom Rodrigo.

So it would follow that he belonged to the tiufadia and to the Gothic aristocracy.

>>511244510
The Visigoths converted en masse in the year 587, specifically during the III Council of Toledo. And Recaredo exterminated a rebellion of Arians unwilling to follow him. What a retarded take from your part. I don't know if by ignorance or by plain stupidity.

>>511244813
Exactly. Two centuries of Arianism since Jordanes and Wulfila.

How is this pertinent to anything modern?

>>511221019
>london
You mean the Rothschilds

>>511244648
In the last decades, after Franco passed away, a whole generation of leftist republican "historians" (more propagandists than anything else) have made a strong campaign to erase the Visigothic heritage in the wholeness of Spain.

I have read from people saying that Hispanic rite was North African. To others saying the song of Mio Cid was written by Muslims. To others denying the existence of Pelayo or saying he was a local chief. To others trying to associate Spanish luxury whool with Berber garbage. Etc.

There is a massive propagandistic program here from philoislamist Leftists working for institutions founded with Saudi, Iranian, Algerian and Moroccan money on a try to whiteash the Islamic Jihad against Spain in Middle-Ages and the future one they are planning.

>>511244207
Portuguese has a couple of Arabic loan words. Spanish has been utterly debased by Arabic.

>>511245189
I know that very well hermano.
We are in the same boat.

In Portugal we dont have a single statue to Dom Pelágio and he is a completely unknown figure.

The future is grim for all Iberia.

>>511245309
Portuguese has 1.000. Mostly dead.
Castillian has 6.000.

Unfortunately the Spaniards still say ojalá often.

>>511244917
It doesn't because they were the only Kingdom in Spain with Roman approval.

Alans, Vandals and Suevi never got any legitimation from the Roman goverment, they arrived to Spain, pillage and sacked for 10 years the whole peninsula and then the Romans hired the Visigoths to kick the shit of them out of Spain.

Paulus Orosius in Historia Adversus Paganus stats that the Visigoths were welcomed as liberators after a decade of pillage by Alans, Vandals and Suevi, and even more so of massive Roman taxes since the Goths lowered the taxes since they were herders who asap got to work in their new farms.

>>511214957 (OP)
Why are those anglos so anglo?

>>511245480
You dont need legitimacy to do anything amigo.

Cortés and Pizarro had 0 legitimacy.

>>511245742
They did, specially since they lead a just war on terrible Pagan powers who tyrannized many regions that asked for Spanish military help.

The war of the Flowers, which were symbolical ritualistic military campaigns of Aztecs against their vassalized indigenous states which were hold in basically human farms, unabled to scape or resist such a power, in were they captured persons for sacrifices in Tenochtitlan.

And I am not gonna start with sacrifice of children.

Things which at the eyes of the laws at the time, for both, Christians and Saracens, were evilish and worthy of just war.

Read Francisco de Vitoria and Ginés de Sepúlveda which refuted Las Casas in the debates of Valladolid.

>>511246173
>Ginés de Sepúlveda

Who also said that the indios were not human, but homunculi. Only to be used for slavery.

You have to get rid of the Jewish perspective.
Christianity turns you into a bigger slave.

>>511246436
>Who also said that the indios were not human, but homunculi. Only to be used for slavery.
You have to return Brazil, Ronaldinho.

>>511246553
Ginés de Sepulveda said ad litteram that the indios were homunculi.

Do you deny this?

>>511214957 (OP)
>unlimited aid
Dumb retard

>>511214957 (OP)
>Portugal IS a fake nation. Created by (((galician))) aristocrats.
You mean it was created by us. We're the Galicians that managed to stay independent, because we were richer and stronger that the northern half.

We're not a fake nation, we are the oldest living nation in western Europe, our land was given to us directly by Emperor Honorius in 411 AD, we have been our own thing ever since, with some minor setbacks along the way, but we're still here.

Portugal ê filha de Galicia.
Portugal ê fillha do segundo Reino en rexurdir da moureria.
Portugal ê España son o mesmo.

>>511244364
>be proto-spaniard
>condemn Aryans and everything they stood for
BASED MOOR BVLLS

>>511246668
>because we were richer and stronger that the northern half.

why is that?

>>511214957 (OP)
Canada didn't exist in 1812, idiot

>>511214957 (OP)
Out of all the countries you mentioned in your OP, Portugal is the least fake nation.

>>511214957 (OP)
REEEEEEEEEE
YOU FUCKING NIGGER
WE ARE OLDER THAN SPAIN
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
OPEN A HISTORY BOOK FOR ONCE IN YOUR LIFETIME
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Dont you dare compare us to fake nations like Ukraine or Russia or Spain ever again

>>511247908
More AFRICAN BVLL blood

>>511214957 (OP)
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
FUCK YOU OP FOR MAKING ME FALL FOR YOUR SHITY BAIT
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>511248207
First we are going to unify HISPANIA in ONE BIG HEAD.
Later we are going to ally with RUSSIA
Them we are going to restablish berlin as the center capital of Europeans.
...
Im lazy you faggot kikes and retardeds type the rest here
kek

Spain = limp wristed white sissies
Portugal = MAVRI-BANTV BVLLS OF THE AFRICANEST BLOOD

>>511248707
>ally with Moscovia

Nahh

>>511214957 (OP)
What is the Anglo tactic exactly? Screw the rest of the world over while your country gets overrun with jeets and niggers?

>>511244559
The British Navy shelled the Russian army during the 1918 Latvian and Estonian wars of Independence when we defeated russia in open warfare and became countries.

>>511250470
yes

>>511215425
>fake nation
>created by aristocrats
>no unified, no common language
feels oddly familiar

>>511215425
idk man, I feel like if we go by this definition, more than half of the worlds nations are fake. Is that true?

>>511254821
Fake in what sense?

They exist as lines in the ground and ways of government, them requiring anything at any point or at all points is meaningless, all things require other things in case of nations legal recognition

>>511255747
Every nation is artificial.
Retards think that they have some higher form of legitimacy to existing.

Its gunpowder and blood that decides legitimacy.

>>511256023
Andalus was real?

>>511215821
I mean, the Portuguese empire did last longer, but the Spaniards fucked more human DNA into theirs, so their colonies are more relevant.

>>511257461
For as long as it lasted yes.

>>511258449

What do you think of the Visigoth period?

>>511259185
Good while it lasted.
The Visigoths couldnt resist moral kikery (chriskikery).

But other than that, they dealt with things in one of the most disturbed times in history. With a mini ice age and the collapse of the Roman ecumene.

>>511215425
finally a based portugueese

>>511260052
No need to disparage our country.

We were a templar crusader state and we divided the world with Castille.

There is no need to get Balkanic.

>>511215649
They have different religions, history and language. They are not the same at all.

>>511214957 (OP)
>Let me do some trolling and cause ruckus to fuck europeans
Sure. All I know is that america is, and always will be a literal melting pot serving as a "sample" of the world with no true culture of their own. Trump will be removed and Putin wont conquer Ukraine. Congress jumps, barks and rolls on AIPACs command.
Your southern states are pretty much mexicans who speak english (sometimes barely) and the people of Irish and german descent (european throwaways of ages past who larp as "le aryan ubermensch") are fading away. Nigger culture is "fashionable". Zoomer speak is basically derived from that and immigration levels are higher than europe (not even a match).
The middle class is now H-1B's and living conditions for the middle/low class are in free fall.
This much I know. Get rekted chud.

yes

The Napoleonic wars was one of the most interesting periods in history from that perspective. There are actually many parallels to WWII. France tried to starve Britain by blocking its trade. But Britain played off of America, even with the US slightly on France's side, and the frustrated tyrant, this time Napoleon, again blundered by throwing itself at a land war, same as Hitler. It shows the power of trade and globalism, the same concept that Putin struggles to wrap his head around, or at least his supporters do, both in Russia and in the US.

>>511262399
x2

>>511263413
x3

>>511216095
We fired the first shots. A lot of them.

>>511263406
Napoleon destroyed the Spanish/Portuguese empires similar to how Hitler destroyed the British/French empires.

yes

ok yes

>>511214957 (OP)
Sounds like a Jewish trick but how is it going for Britain rn

great

of course

>>511215425
Cope

>>511236055
Shut up, moor
You've been ruled by foreigners since 1516

>>511227283
And yet, the dynasty that brought you the golden age has more Portuguese blood than "Spanish"
We owned you

>>511267619
Spain deserved to be destroyed for being backstabbing bastards
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Fontainebleau_(October_1807)

>>511227283
And then your inbred king died and you got conquered by the French. So what?
We got out of that "union" at the right time

>>511274646
what about franco?

>>511276688
He was Galician/Portuguese

>>511214957 (OP)
So what was the correct play for Russia? Capitulate and let an illegitimate regime retake Donbass and Crimea that is full of ethnic Russians, giving up territory that would allow the West to strangle them with containment? They lost because they didn’t lose on purpose?

>>511277081

They could've taken it before Ukraine was armed, but the Russians overestimated their own capabilities & were afraid of US sanctions.

Russia only went all-in in 2022 because the GOP promised them sanctions relief to humiliate Biden & the Russians were betting on a red wave

>>511214957 (OP)
All the real "anglos" came to the US over 250 years ago.
Russia is a bicentennial present.
Happy Birthday bros.

>>511277955

What about the ones from Northern Germany?

ok

>>511277909
No they lost in 2014 because they think they're dealing with rational humans instead of jews who will kill an entire country just to avoid saying "they beat us this time" in an unnecessary proxy war

>op still bumping his shit thread this desperately
Also we have nothing to do with Ukraine faggot. Sage

>>511280946
Putin & his cronies are ex-USSR officials, they're not 'rational'.

yes

ok

>>511214957 (OP)
>but Britain gave Canada unlimited aid to keep Canada afloat, thus America never got its buffer state in Canada.
canada didn't exist in 1812 it was britain you fuckin idiot