>>511250166>The Russians clearly expected that Ukrainian morale and organization is weak and if they just "kick in the door, everything will collapse".Imagine pretending the Russian KGB Intel are that bad. You tell me they couldn't gather intel on their neighbour?
They were surprised how extremely organized Ukraine was?
Seriously why are you so naive. You're one of the /uhg/ regular right?
No dude they didn expect that I'm sure. The first assault on Ukraine was aimless and led to a disorganized retreat from Russian forces. In retrospective, the only explanation was it was made to fail.
>Nato on the other hand did not expect that Ukraine will hold and even push back the RussiansWait so NATO didn even expect Ukraine to be able to hold Russia let alone push them back. Why did they start that war to begin with then?
Can we already go past the part where you pretend the CIA wasn involved in maiden and we can go straight to why the actual fuck would NATO and the CIA help Ukraine start a war they pertinently knew was impossible to fight anyway?
Kursk was not a disaster in the making and it ALSO didn't turn into a disaster no matter how hard you military intelligence try to convince yourself.
It was Ukraine only chance and it led to a large quantity of extremely effective strike on Russia infrastructure. You guys are coping because Ukraine decided to do that without your accord.