what happened to Americas biggest CPU manufacturer - /pol/ (#511276860) [Archived: 439 hours ago]

Anonymous ID: WGySkFsoFinland
7/25/2025, 2:19:47 AM No.511276860
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Intel kicks out 24 000 workers

https://www.theverge.com/news/713388/intel-q2-2025-leave-germany-poland-costa-rica

Intel announced it will cut approximately 24,000 jobs in 2025 (by December 2025) and cancel or scale back projects in Germany, Poland, Costa Rica, and Ohio.

By the end of the year, the struggling chipmaker plans to have "just around 75,000 'core employees' in total," according to The Verge.

Intel employed 109,800 people at the end of 2024, of which 99,500 were "core employees," so the company is pushing out around 24,000 people this year -- shrinking Intel by roughly one-quarter.

Today, on the company's earnings call, Intel's says that Intel had overinvested in new factories before it had secured enough demand, that its factories had become "needlessly fragmented," and that it needs to grow its capacity "in lock step" with achieving actual milestones.

"I do not subscribe to the belief that if you build it, they will come. Under my leadership, we will build what customers need when they need it, and earn their trust," says Tan.

Now, in Germany and Poland, where Intel was planning to spend tens of billions of dollars respectively on "mega-fabs" that would employ 3,000 workers, and on an assembly and test facility that would employ 2,000 workers, the company will "no longer move forward with planned projects" and is apparently axing them entirely.

Intel has had a presence in Poland since 1993, however, and the company did not say its R&D facilities there are closing. (Intel had previously pressed pause on the new Germany and Poland projects "by approximately two years" back in 2024.)

In Costa Rica, where Intel employs over 3,400 people, the company will "consolidate its assembly and test operations in Costa Rica into its larger sites in Vietnam."

The company is also cutting back in Ohio: "Intel will further slow the pace of construction in Ohio to ensure spending is aligned with market demand."
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Anonymous ID: Zmdu0dC6United States
7/25/2025, 2:27:20 AM No.511277412
Intel is Jewish, not American. AMD is American and is kicking Intelโ€™s ass.
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Anonymous ID: nb5fkZPE
7/25/2025, 2:30:58 AM No.511277707
>>511276860 (OP)
Intel are fucked. They have switched into salvage mode already. Engineers out, accountants in

Their chip designs are behind AMD. The process tech is behind TSMC. It costs Intel twice as much to build a CPU than AMD because they are more complex and have different parts fabbed in different places

Their fab tech will be sold off within 18 months and they will switch to a fabless chip house like AMD. They are slowly selling off parts of the business trying to get it as lightweight as possible

They probably wont go bust but the days of Intel dominance are completely finished and they will continue to lose relevance over time
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Anonymous ID: uWoppHGaUnited States
7/25/2025, 2:31:53 AM No.511277788
>>511277412
Fpbp
Intel is kiked to hell and back, and their last 2 generations of processors have been complete overheating unstable pieces of shit.
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Anonymous ID: Zmdu0dC6United States
7/25/2025, 2:33:36 AM No.511277929
>>511277788
It all started when Itanic failed. Then Pentium 4. Seriously modern Intel chips date their lineage back to the Pentium Pro, everything else since has failed. Stupid kikes.
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Anonymous ID: WGySkFsoFinland
7/25/2025, 2:38:14 AM No.511278301
>>511277929
>>511277788
>>511277707

Intel powered laptops up to year 2016 are still fine and old AMD laptops would be worse

That being said, Intel CPUs do get increasingly unreliable at least starting from 2019 and this includes laptops too
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Anonymous ID: Zmdu0dC6United States
7/25/2025, 2:39:54 AM No.511278446
>>511278301
Nah Gen 2 is the cutoff. You can get rid of the NSAโ€™s backdoors with those easily, too. More modern stuff is turbo comped. And NSA is literally Israeli.
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Anonymous ID: G/SEXtWpPortugal
7/25/2025, 2:45:22 AM No.511278890
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>>511276860 (OP)
>Intel
>American
pick one not both
Anonymous ID: nb5fkZPE
7/25/2025, 2:47:53 AM No.511279069
>>511277929
P4 was absolute stupidity in design terms

P Pro is stretching it a bit but its not far off. Modern Intel cores are direct descendants of the Banias / Dothan Pentium M architecture

>>511278301
Yes. Prior to Zen AMD were well behind. Intels advantage was its manufacturing process though, not the core design. It will never have that advantage again. It failed at 10nm 5 times in succession. It failed at 7nm. It couldnt bring n5/4 online in a way that had enough yeild to make it profitable. 18A has again failed in yeild terms and costs are through the roof. Its so bad that Intel are paying TSMC to manufacture tiles

Intel is falling further and further behind with their fab tech and they dont have the money or people to catch up completely wiping out their long term market advantage

The second problem for Intel is that ARM designs are coming online and they are fast enough, some are even faster than Intel. Ive just got an Nvidia desktop box with Nvidia CPU cores and GPU combined into a single chip for running AI inference. AMD have a similar product (Strix Halo) but Intel doesnt have a product that can compete in any of the emerging markets
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Anonymous ID: DTuWgDUUUnited States
7/25/2025, 2:51:04 AM No.511279276
>>511276860 (OP)
they wanted to do everything in house because they owned fab plants and this was very expensive and bankrupted the company.
Now they want to copy TMSC and make chips for everyone.
Anonymous ID: pPSz11b1United States
7/25/2025, 2:51:13 AM No.511279296
>>511276860 (OP)

They skipped safety for speed. Got caught and had to redesign. Couldn't make it happen though
Anonymous ID: erbadq8bMexico
7/25/2025, 2:53:21 AM No.511279456
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>>511277788
weren't they giving subscribe to unlock the full chip loicences now?
heheeh
good riddance, I hope they die, get chopped off, and bought by chink shell companies all around the world
Anonymous ID: nb5fkZPE
7/25/2025, 2:53:36 AM No.511279473
>>511278446
You can kill Pluton now. You can blow an efuse in 5/6/7/9xxx series ryzens and completely disable Pluton
Anonymous ID: UpT/CvG2Sweden
7/25/2025, 2:55:09 AM No.511279583
No one is buying intel.

All gamers are buying amd.

Companies only buy cheap laptop cpus every 5-10 years.
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Anonymous ID: stA8R9sRUnited States
7/25/2025, 2:57:28 AM No.511279743
>>511276860 (OP)
We have other less Jewish ones. They're picking up speed.
Anonymous ID: 5tlfXJlkUnited States
7/25/2025, 2:57:58 AM No.511279771
>>511278301
Does Intel make any profit at all on chips that are over a year old?

None of that matters for their business, when they just spent a year shipping pre-bricked processors.
Anonymous ID: stA8R9sRUnited States
7/25/2025, 2:58:44 AM No.511279826
>>511279583
iC's go into a lot of things. Defining the market as gamers and company laptops is retarded.
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Anonymous ID: UpT/CvG2Sweden
7/25/2025, 3:02:10 AM No.511280046
>>511279826
And who else is buying their cpus, exactly? Because I'm assuming that is what this thread is talking about, you turbo faggot.
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Anonymous ID: stA8R9sRUnited States
7/25/2025, 3:03:49 AM No.511280158
>>511280046
If Intel is taking a dump it means all of their products are taking dump. Again this is like calling Texas instruments a calculator company
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Anonymous ID: nb5fkZPE
7/25/2025, 3:04:09 AM No.511280180
>>511279826
Yes because Intel has a huge market in embedded SoC's....

Downs syndrome kid
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Anonymous ID: UpT/CvG2Sweden
7/25/2025, 3:05:12 AM No.511280236
>>511280158
You do realise there is a difference between 90% and 10%, do you not?
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Anonymous ID: ifs0ZngsSweden
7/25/2025, 3:07:08 AM No.511280379
>>511276860 (OP)
>what happened to Americas biggest CPU manufacturer

They fell behind in the nanometer race and tried to compete by overvolting and overclocking their cpus. This lead to their cpus burning out with stock voltage settings. If their 18A process doesn't work they are fucked.
Anonymous ID: nb5fkZPE
7/25/2025, 3:08:14 AM No.511280447
>>511280158
Nothing like that. Ti makes a multitude of products, cross spectrum for all kinds of industries and applications. Intel is a 1 trick pony now. 1.5 tricks if you include their GPU's but they are selling at a loss and wont continue

Intel no longer make Xscale embedded. They sold off their FPGA unit. Their network unit is now tiny having got destroyed as the industry ramped up bandwidth and they got left behind. The have completely lost the AI market. Their incompetence in manufacturing caused them to get completely locked out of the mobile market. They only have CPUs left
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Anonymous ID: ifs0ZngsSweden
7/25/2025, 3:08:40 AM No.511280469
>>511278446
>Nah Gen 2 is the cutoff.

Gen 2 ? Core 2 gen 2 ?
Anonymous ID: a8b0G/h4United States
7/25/2025, 3:08:44 AM No.511280477
>>511277707
They bought ASMLโ€™s new fab machine, which TSMC is skipping out on. Dunno if 4 years is gonna be enough to make a comeback or not though. TSMC certainly doesnโ€™t believe it has competition.
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Anonymous ID: stA8R9sRUnited States
7/25/2025, 3:09:42 AM No.511280531
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>>511280180
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
>>511280447
That was my point. Learn to read before You insult someone.
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Anonymous ID: XGt8YWhfUnited States
7/25/2025, 3:12:10 AM No.511280691
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There was an employee lawsuit at Intel back in the day over a guy putting a plant on his desk. Only managers could have a plant. Mid level managers could have one plant and higher managers could have more plants. This engineer wasn't a manager... so no plant allowed. They fired him. He won the lawsuit, sort of. He was allowed to keep his plant, but Intel wasn't going to water it for him. In other words, the place sucked ass for a long time. If AMD hadn't fucked itself over in the late 2000's when they moved everyone to Texas and sold off their flash memory division (precursors to SSD drives and cell phone memory)-- Intel would have died over 10 years ago. Engineering companies must be ran by engineer's and not fucking accountants or ivy league EBITA acronym spewing MBA's.
Anonymous ID: 5cZYd+nmUnited States
7/25/2025, 3:12:40 AM No.511280718
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Anonymous ID: Pj3d728lUnited States
7/25/2025, 3:13:57 AM No.511280796
>>511276860 (OP)
lmao, get wrecked Costa Rica. Intel putting their shitty facilities there directly coincides with the socialism boom in Costa Rica.
Anonymous ID: stA8R9sRUnited States
7/25/2025, 3:14:00 AM No.511280799
>>511280236
Yes, 90% of the cous go to server farms. They had a 95% market share up till a few months ago. But tell me more about gaming PCs and laptop cous.
Anonymous ID: nb5fkZPE
7/25/2025, 3:14:54 AM No.511280863
>>511280531
Yes because Intel manufacturing 25 year old 1Gb tech networking IC's is sure going to help them in the market against Broadcom and Nvidia / Melonox in the 800Gb space...

Realtek have taken most of Intels share of the low end networking space
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Anonymous ID: CWSyA2vhUnited States
7/25/2025, 3:15:09 AM No.511280878
>>511276860 (OP)
They are fucked and need to come up with something FAST. Ryzen is only getting better with each passing minute. If core ultra 300 series doesn't blow zen 6 out of the water they are permafucked, they've been struggling against AMD for 6 years now ever since zen 2, that's longer than their dominance in the quad core stagnation days lasted.
Anonymous ID: stA8R9sRUnited States
7/25/2025, 3:17:04 AM No.511280985
>>511280863
That was 12 seconds of googling from a public vendor. Try again
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Anonymous ID: nb5fkZPE
7/25/2025, 3:19:10 AM No.511281125
>>511280477
I hope so but Im doubtful. Intels board and new CEO pairing have made it clear that manufacturing tech is not in Intels long term future

They are already 4 years behind TSMC and the gap is growing. Even China's SMIC are only about 18 months behind Intel now and thats without ASML EUV tech. Though Im not sure SMIC can push that development much further without EUV, they have pretty much hit the limits of DUV at 5nm. On the flip side China's givernment is investing hundreds of billions into making their own EUV equipment to bypass ASML
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Anonymous ID: nb5fkZPE
7/25/2025, 3:19:58 AM No.511281190
>>511280985
Come up with something better and I will discredit it just as quickly. Its you thats needs to try again
Anonymous ID: bzVNO5wfUnited States
7/25/2025, 3:22:04 AM No.511281308
>>511276860 (OP)
america lost intel
is left with 'mt/AMD (amet)

the question is, will america embrace 'mt or reject it too?
Anonymous ID: lkmICKBZMexico
7/25/2025, 3:23:03 AM No.511281370
>>511276860 (OP)
>pic
She's cute. I want her masculine face genes to fix mine's, that are feminine face genes, by starting a family with her.
Anonymous ID: Kq4YfBGoUnited States
7/25/2025, 3:28:31 AM No.511281692
>>511279069
Intel is still better because diversity
Anonymous ID: Kq4YfBGoUnited States
7/25/2025, 3:33:29 AM No.511281978
>>511281125
Intel fab was already being setup years in a way Intel CPU business unit would "purchase" from Intel FAB like a customer, they're setup to spin that business out already and it's coming. Who ends up buying it is the real question.
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Anonymous ID: nb5fkZPE
7/25/2025, 3:44:41 AM No.511283503
>>511281978
Intel Foundry as a business hasnt worked. They completely messed up getting their design tools online and they arrived 3 years too late. The only major customer they managed to sign was Broadcom and even that has gone to shit because the yields on both 5nm and 18A are horrific and completely unusable. Broadcom have backed out and gone to TSMC and Samsung instead. Intel Foundry has no customers apart from Intel and even Intel are using TSMC over Intel Foundry

Because of that Intel have abandoned plans to build new fabs for Intel Foundry because its pointless when you have no customers
https://www.ft.com/content/1d4eeada-8d49-4827-bdfa-d93d3dd0dd95

18A has been such a disaster for Intel Foundry that they are seriously considering scrapping it completely and going straight to 14A
https://siliconangle.com/2025/07/02/report-intel-considers-moving-on-18a-chip-manufacturing-process/

So Intel failed a little at 14nm but eventually turned it into a very good node. They failed at 10nm but 5 years late they turned it into something barely usable. They failed at 7nm and started to use TSMC for manufacturing. They failed completely at 5nm. They now seem to have also failed completely at 18A

What are the chances that Intel foundry brings 14A online successfully, on time and with profitable yields given the previous decade of complete failure? I would say its close to zero
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Anonymous ID: Kq4YfBGoUnited States
7/25/2025, 3:53:44 AM No.511284037
>>511283503
Diversity can fix all of this
When it's sold off, there is a non-zero, however unlikely, chance the new company will keep the competent engineers, listen to them, cut the waste, and bring in what's needed to actually get it running properly. Hopefully it isn't Broadcom.
Anonymous ID: nxox/Sr4United States
7/25/2025, 4:03:29 AM No.511284599
>>511276860 (OP)
the libtarding of universities means that computer enigneers are taught gender theory instead of engineering