How come nobody at pol can debunk marxism after studying it properly?

You mean Engelsism? Marx was a nutter and most of what we think of communism was actually Engels and his followers

>>511278188 (OP)
what's there to debunk, it literally fails every time it is implemented. spix are particularly susceptible to its siren song as they're inherently lazy and want some faggot to coddle them and give them free shit.

they were simply stating facts from analysis anyone else would have drawn the same conclusions

>>511278382
Also Engels was known to forge documents and claim Marx wrote them especially when he stopped losing political relevancy

>>511278507
how come china is taking over the world then?

>but is capitalism
China uses the same economic system as venezuela.

>>511278589
China's economy was gifted to it by Nixon

>>511278188 (OP)
I can. It’s called the American Negro

How much cum does carla tate enjoy from the book of sexy sexo?

>>511278642
China shouldn't work better than the west if the fault of venezuela was because of marxism.

>>511278589
Imagine thinking china is a workers paradise. Ive never met a commie that has good things to say about post mao china.

>>511278188 (OP)
Right wingers can’t study something what an impossible standard you have

>>511278188 (OP)
pilpul is designed to waste time

>>511278188 (OP)
>Steal the means of production!

>>511278711
compare the average chinese to the average american lifestyle.

>>511278507
Venezuelan economy only started to tank once Obama imposed sanctions in 2014, mostly kicking them out of the global economy. There were doing very well in 2000's, largely due to high oil prices.

>>511278695
Every country that undergoes such a late transition to industry with such a huge population and a massive influx of western money would turn out like China

They won't last, their time has come where their production is only maintained through aggressive monopolistic tactics

>>511278900
then why india and bangladesh and indonesia hasn't come like china?

>>511278960
We're not sending money to India or Bangladesh

>>511278791
The average chink lives a horrible life compared to the average american. Do you know why communism always fails with you spics? You have to have a working class before you can have communism. Spics arent at that stage of civilization yet. Likely they never will be.

>>511278188 (OP)
It's been debunked loads of times.
Faggots like you just keep coming here and making time wasting threads like this which all read
>why can't pol herp a derp TEEHEE
At this point, no one bothers to argue because you'll just make the same thread again the next day.
Do you ever get bored of this or are you getting paid to post?
>>511278752
this
>try to debunk kike pilpul
>meanwhile, kike loots everything

>>511279174
Pilpul as the judes call it is actually an excellent reasoning tool. It's basically using advanced reasoning to arrive at a better approximate answer out of s bunch of variables.

>>511279252
Theres no better answer that will lead to a revelation that jewish communism is anything other than a pathetic joke of an ideology. Not everything has to be debated over and over again as if theres some legitimate doubt.

>>511278188 (OP)
what does the squinting chin raise mean?

>>511278188 (OP)
How come jews rape kids and then claim they don't?

Edict of the Serpent's Tail

"By decree of the Whirlwind Authority: All media practitioners must employ greater sophistry to combat the dangerous rise of sophistry in media discourse. This mandate requires the immediate implementation of sophisticated rhetorical techniques to expose how sophisticated rhetorical techniques mislead audiences. Citizens shall be educated through carefully crafted arguments about the perils of carefully crafted arguments.The effectiveness of this edict shall be measured by its ability to generate circular reasoning that demonstrates why circular reasoning must be eliminated. All who question this logic thereby prove its necessity, while all who accept it reveal their susceptibility to the very manipulation this edict seeks to prevent.
This decree becomes void if successfully implemented, and becomes essential if ignored. Compliance is mandatory for all who recognize its authority, which authority exists only through recognition of its mandates.By consuming this edict, you have already been consumed by it. The serpent devours its tail. The cycle is complete and begins anew."
The structure deliberately creates logical paradoxes where each statement undermines and reinforces itself simultaneously - like a möbius strip of argumentation that has no clear beginning or end.

>>511279641
>Oy vey
ism

>>511279252
It's to teach rhetorical deception. Shabbos accomplishes a similar goal. It teaches jews from a young age how to manipulate others in to working for them.
>can't work on the sabboth
>however, goy can
>figure out how to convince goys to do the work for you
This sets them on a track to be lifelong manipulators.

>>511279641
>>511279666
>(((Marx)))

>jews have giant wonky noses
Kek, jews
>HONK

>>511278188 (OP)
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>>511278960
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>>511278859
>socialism can only succeed by trading with capitalists
not the successful argument you think it is

>>511279468
I don't mean debating the same things, I mean about finding truth

>>511279671
Jews are social and financial creatures and then there's their Jewish autism. Unironically the religion that tells them all the goyim are subhumans is the only tolerable thing about them.

>>511278188 (OP)
Marxism is truly fascinating. On a strictly intellectual level, it is wrong in so many respects that it is difficult to enumerate its flaws. It is not just trivially ‘off’ in countless ways but profoundly false in quite a number. The best overall apprehension of Marx’s system, I believe, is that it is an elaborate reductio ad absurdum of the labor theory of value, and in this way at least — if correctly understood — it performs a valuable service. (I’ve tried to compile a basic list of critical Marxist errors and omissions in the past, and lack the energy to repeat this task right now, but it’s probably worth doing — most of the interesting diagnosticians get hung up on one or two of Marx’s major mistakes, and thus fail to convey the situation accurately: a multiplicitously misconceived intellectual abortion.) Of course, there are also many insightful elements to the Marxist corpus, and (especially) conceptually ingenious structures of argument, along with the occasional excellently-crafted phrase. The only fundamental explanation for the Marxist phenomenon — a popularity and persistence out of all proportion to intellectual merit, even or especially among those (i.e. academics) who should ‘know better’ — is that it functions as the most important modern religion. This is not, of course, a new suggestion, but it remains a massively under-emphasized one. It should, for instance, be of no less interest to students of religion than to ideological opponents of the Marxist creed.

>>511278188 (OP)
people here don't read. or they will find some gay pseud reason to claim that reading the opposition is bad.

>>511278188 (OP)
>debunk marxism
everyone already has, you're just a retard.
Hell, just pick one of the many fallacies:
>value theory
>dialectic
>materialism
etc. etc.
abominations like you are why South America is the shithole it is instead of the paradise it could be.
You're a retard. A bona fide abomination to mankind.
Ideally you shouldn't be allowed to vote, drive, or even breathe for that matter.

>>511278188 (OP)
Because it's not a fact. How do you debunk an idea, a nonexistent entity?

>>511280317
The truth is communism is shit. We know this as an objective fact already.

>>511280057
Socialism and capitalism aren't antithetical. Socialism is just the next stage of development, which would (and does) resemble capitalism in its beginning stages. Any country that's cast out on its own, no matter what economic systems the rest of the world use, is going to struggle. Especially one that's been thoroughly embedded in the global economy up until that point.

>>511280426
>the religion that tells them all the goyim are subhumans
Well this thread isn't really debunking that lol