If you’re a man in your late 20s and you don’t have kids or haven’t set your life together in a way where you will soon have kids (I.e. you’re engaged and in a long term relationship) you have failed.

The amount of money you have is irrelevant and pointless.Your career achievements are irrelevant and pointless. The only legacy that matters is our children and our family and you have no none.

You have failed in life at its most basic rudimentary level to the point where you have spat in the face of nature and all the generations who came before you. The whole point of life biologically is to reproduce and make sure our genes find another home in the next generation. God himself instructs us to be fruitful and multiply.

If you don’t have children you have failed and it’s over. You are nothing. There is time to turn things around for some of you but for most childless losers it’s over.

>>511393490 (OP)

>>511393490 (OP)
I know, who cares though.

>>511393490 (OP)
Demiurgic Propaganda

>>511393588
Yes you don’t give a fuck.. NOW. You clown. I’d like to see you have the same attitude in your 40s and 50s. Childless men are childish can never be seen as men. You have yet to experience manhood.

>>511393588
Lmaooo

This

>>511393490 (OP)
I'll have them in 30 years, when I'm 65 okay?

>>511393490 (OP)
Meh, not everyone should breed. We have enough retards already. The best thing some people could do for humanity is go goon in a basement for the entirety of their life.

>>511393687
Childless manchildren are known to have higher rates of schizophrenia and you are proof of it.

>>511393490 (OP)
My dad didn’t start a family until he got his ass rimmed by a gay politician named curious George. You see George had a big cock they didn’t work too good so he couldn’t get hard. My dad would sometimes help old George bust soft. This would greatly please mr george so much so that he offered to eat my daddy’s ass in exchange for a big ol fancy position at the state oil company. Naturally my daddy being resourceful man and needing to feed the children at home let mr George eat my daddy’s ass. After that my daddy helped mr. George bust his soft hot nut. From that day on my daddy was known as soft nut mcdonald throughout all of Kansas

>>511393696
If you had built up normal self-esteem, that shit wouldn't faze you or throw you off-balance.

>>511393490 (OP)
I have an idea. What if we ignored all mutts and anglokikes, and just did whatever we wanted when we felt like it?

>>511393490 (OP)
Cool, I failed. Now what?

>>511393490 (OP)
Stop asking me to get married. I mean it.

>>511393852
You’re very bad and ancient tea app roasties are going to stalk you and tell your boss that you’re weird.

>>511393852
Bad advice time:
Strippers and blow.
I did it for half of my 30s and it was great.
It fucked up my life pretty bad, but holy shit was it worth it.

>>511393490 (OP)
Only if you have that hairline.

>>511393793

I even heard good ole Curious George's name brought up in belched tones over Steel Reserve at a truck stop gloryhole here in Milwaukee.

>>511393924
Fucked up your life how? Cardiac problems?

>bro, you should be DOOOOOMING over turning 30, like a woman, even though you have the biological advantage of not having to worry about eggs drying up!!
Gay

>>511393852
Pick yourself up and try again.

The fuck do you care

>>511393845
Sad existence. The irony is that childless are almost manchildren.

>>511393490 (OP)
I hate that none of my friends are even close to me. I have 1 kid and 1 more in september. Some dont even have girlfriends, non are married. We are around 30
While they want to go to party on friday night, I want to meet with them sunday morning

>>511393810
I can only succeed if I follow other peoples life goals

>>511393845
>just did whatever we wanted when we felt like it?
It's called hedonism, have fun, knock yourself out.

>>511393852
Repeat? Link up with this guy >>511393810 and do what this guy said >>511393924 ?

>>511393490 (OP)
Newsflash, historically most men didn't get to score fucking faggot. Sex is a pyramid scheme and I'd rather die than be an oofy doofy.

>>511393924
>Strippers and blow.
Mmmm, I could see that as advice for someone who's unhappy or horny, I'm pretty good though.

>>511393490 (OP)
>Our demon moloch needs more nigger slaves chudie.

Not gonna happen moshe.

>>511393490 (OP)
I don't want kids or a family.
Stop trying to force people into retarded tradcuck bullshit that they don't want to do.

>>511393969
A little bit, yeah, but I've been off it for a few years and the heart feels fine now.
I stopped doing it when I started feeling something wrong.
Also finances are a bit of a mess, but getting back on track in that department too.

>>511394005
Your kid is more important than pointless hedonism and pleasure seeking. Enjoy the gift of life.

>>511393990
Ehhhh people like OP seethe if older men go for younger women so I doubt that's really what they want either lol

I will never settle down with some non-virgin millennial whore.

>>511393490 (OP)
We barely have any british women in here so it's very hard to start a family trust me

>>511394060
Retard you will die alone and miserable. This isnt a Jewish conspiracy

>>511394072
I mean I want to have family-family programs. Not family-single guy programs

>>511393490 (OP)
>just reverse the genders on whatever hurtful truth men were saying 2 years ago.
yes yes women can't have original or intelligent thoughts we are well aware.

>>511393490 (OP)
not until the nonwhites get thrown into hell and women lose their rights

>>511394065
Then just admit you’re just fucked in the head probably due to porn or some other issues. It’s very abnormal not to want to breed and have a family. Its literally wired in us.

>>511393490 (OP)
Oh well too bad. Teach women to want to be wives and mothers again. Which lets be real isn't going to happen.

>>511394119
Plenty of dudes that have a wife and kids die alone and miserable.

>>511393490 (OP)
nah I'd win

>>511393490 (OP)
all big and true
I tired to stay in denial about it for a few years past 30, but that's pretty much all big and true

>>511393490 (OP)
Why should I care about "the point of life"?
I will do what I feel like, your opinion about it is irrelevant.

>>511394117
Why would you want a British woman, they suck badly

>>511394113
It is not easy to get a younger woman in the West, abroad it is easy though

>>511394155
Why not just party with your family and friends? I don't understand the mentality that having kids ends your social activities. If anything it increases them, in my experience.

>>511393490 (OP)
Met some jehovahs witness girl at work, have caught her staring at me when she thinks I'm not looking, gonna try to brainwash her away from the church and onto my dick, wish me luck.

>>511394223
Very rarely but keep on self-sabotaging yourself and ruining your life and future happiness because you want to be a pessimistic dickhead.

>>511394253
I hope you breed and have children, Godspeed anon

>>511393490 (OP)
whats with these failed normalfag zoomers shaming eachother into having kids

>>511394291
> not getting married
> ruining your life

>>511394237
Unfortunately i love them more than romanian women because everything about them is better from banter to looks, and i'm tired of pretending otherwise

>>511394180
>It’s very abnormal not to want to breed. Its literally wired in us.
Via sexual desire.
Condoms and birth control exist retard.
>family
Permanent monogamy with a single wife/spouse isn't natural. You appeal to naturalist arguments while not accepting this fact.

>>511394291
I warned ya.

>>511394347
no ones touching your stinky used hole, roastie

>>511393490 (OP)
I’m 29 and going back to university, I’ll find some zoomer girl there probably

>>511394423
>going back to university
For what?

>>511394362
British women don't want Romanian men, you are too poor for them if you're not rich. Past 25 they will demand men to have a pile of money while hitting the wall themselves. British women are the worst deal a man can make, goes for basically all Anglokike countries

>>511393490 (OP)
trvke. male roasties are delusional asf thinking they can careermaxx and pick up some girl half their age down the line like bro no girl fucking someone their dads age actually wants to be in that relationship longterm

>>511394347
>>511394291

If you want to push natalism, which I support, then the way to do it is with the carrot not the stick.
Carefree, romantic content that makes it look easy to jump into and pull off, that focuses on things working themselves out for young families even if their starting position is a little rough.

Browbeating and nagging are completely ineffective and stupid approaches. Counterproductive.

>>511393944
Very nice. I’ve blown a guy or three up there before. Love the green bay packers

>>511394423
Godspeed anon. I hope you manage to succeed and breed. Please have kids within the next 3 years so you can see your kids graduate high school without being some frail old man.

Women in Anglokike countries are like this:
> 25 - I want equality with Chad
> 25 - I want equality with a rich Chad
> 30 something - My son Chad Jr or Tyrone Jr needs a rich step dad

>>511394291
>future happiness
so the point of having kids is not out of a sense of duty or a biological need but some kind of "happiness" in the future? wtf are you even saying

>>511394486
Based they don’t know they’re being used by zoomer whores for their money. They’re pathetic. That’s why it’s good to marry and have kids young. We need to normalize being married by 21 again. Society was a lot healthier back when this was the norm.

>>511393490 (OP)
Your whole point is moot when you consider the fact that we are where we are in 2025. This is true for evolution up until the point where humanity hijacked how we operate genetically by squishing the natural order of biological evolution -- in other words it doesn't really matter what the fuck happens with genetic lineages because we're all fucked up and there's only going to be select bottleneck populations that propel the human race in the future because inevitably the fucking world is going to have some catastrophic bullshit whatever I don't fucking care

>>511393490 (OP)
Nah i'd rather not let them suffer in a jewish hellscape, il'l have kids when its safe and where its safe

imagine being a selfish subhuman, hope your kids put you in an old folks home with niggers to bash you every night

>>511394590
No, it's about happiness right now. Children are the most joy I've ever experienced. If they stick me in a home when I'm old it will still have been worth it. If you have kids as a retirement plan, you're doing it wrong.

>>511394590
Married men with children are happier. Show me a 50 year old who has never kids or a family and I can show you a deeply troubled broken unhappy soul.

>>511393490 (OP)
I hate what society and the world has become. There's nothing I can think of worse than bringing a child into a world I despise.

>>511394651
Don’t give up. If you’re young there is still time. Only think in this way if you’re reaching 30 or past it. That’s the threshold. It’s okay to be a little nihilistic as a young adult.

>>511394666
So, your life sucks and you believe if you have kids theirs will as well? I think you're correct in your decision, you should not breed.

>>511393490 (OP)
>you failed and it’s over.

Okay and? I look at my moms family
And they are all failures, same with my dad’s family. And they lived in the good times too.

Example of my mom’s family: uncle has no kids and isn’t married. Aunt#1 had no kids. Aunt #2 has a single kid and gets beaten by her husband who leeches from aunt #1 indirectly and won’t ever get a job. My own mom found my dad, a beta male who was pretending to be in alpha, who would still be alive today if he took his cholesterol meds but thought he knew better than doctors but he instead died like a cuck at age 59.

So I’m surrounded by failures at life who couldn’t even make it when life was good. Why do you think someone like me should reproduce? My own mom can’t even eat healthy to save her own life. Family of subhumans.

>>511394637
Yeah but you don't normalize it by nagging and shaming

>>511393490 (OP)
broccoli tops seething millenichads are taking all the 18-24 year olds, not falling for it buddy

>>511394767
Why are you pushing retards to breed? I love having kids, but I understand not everyone should.

>>511393490 (OP)
Using female-centric shaming tactics will just increase the söy cuck birth rate since these are the men who respond to shaming with conformity. It won't increase the birth rates of men of integrity who aren't having children for principled reasons.

>>511393696
You don't get it. Your rhetoric makes men want to fight back against you. Men don't respond to humiliation/shaming etc in the same way women do. Men don't conform when people try to shame/humiliate them, they fight back and spit in your face. Did you learn nothing from how the left completely alienated working class men over the past 20 years? If you want women to have more kids then shaming them works. If you want *men* to have more kids then shaming them won't work, especially if you are not respectable yourself (for example if you spent your youth whoring around), If a man who spent his youth whoring around and ruining other men's future wives tries to lecture me on growing up I'll call him a hypocritical faggot even though I agree that having children is all that matters because if he actually wanted men to have more kids then he wouldn't have behaved in the way that he did.

>>511394804
I have a hard time believing anyone who claims to have bigger age gaps than 10 years in the West. Outside sure, but in the West its not very likely. Then again why would anyone want a Western woman

>>511394791
I'd say ideally every white anon on here should reproduce, because the traits that bring and keep people on here are largely genetic.
Being on /pol/ is kind of like not taking it (the vaccine!), it's proof you're instinctively predisposed to independence.

>>511394804
I really thought it was a joke but sure enough when i turned 30, 22 year olds were eyeballing me

>>511394829
Like the leaf here >>511394791 said. Not everyone should have kids.

>>511394461
Which is exactly why i can't start a family. Now you see how much i'm suffering? U people have no idea how good u have it

>>511394829
did you read the op? Its a retarded christian that wants browns to breed more kek

>>511394871
>Your rhetoric makes men want to fight back against you. Men don't respond to humiliation/shaming etc in the same way women do.

This

>>511394889
my ex is 20 and im 32
dated her when i was 30 and she was 18
who cares what you believe tho
you aren’t even allowed to believe it was less than 6 million in your country
also you’re projecting

>>511394977
German women suck man, I would rather marry a black guy than a German woman, it is easier to find a nigger with self-awareness than a Western woman

>>511394948
Yep

>>511393490 (OP)
I really don’t care, also not my problem.

>>511394697
>>511394707
I don't believe in "happiness" in the way you describe it as some weird unique experience. It doesn't exist. It's some utopian state of total bliss or something weird. I go outside and I stare at the sky and I'm "happy". I feel the wind on my face and I'm "happy". What does that even mean? I'm not saying you are not happy having kids and it makes sense that you are it sounds great but why wouldn't the childless man also be "happy". I don't even know what you mean by this word.

Men, living in reality with their eyes open, don't have the privilege of being "happy". That's for children and women.

>>511393696
>You have yet to experience manhood.
Again, this rhetoric has the opposite effect from what you intent. Any time I see the "real man" bullshit I instinctively dismiss it as a grift. Real men marry whores, real men raise the bull's niglets, real men die in wars for billionaires who laugh at them from behind closed doors, when was the last time a "real man" did anything that wasn't absolutely cucked? If "real men" have children then that makes having children seem as pathetic as all the other humiliating shit that "real men" apparently do.

>>511394889

Bro a 15 year old was coming on to me hard the other day and I'd hit it (a.k.a. perform penetrative coital intercourse until the point of insemination) if she wasn't my good buddy's daughter.
Basically girls and women want to fuck men. They don't really want to fuck boys.

>>511393490 (OP)
Don't care, I'm gay and it's not my job to have kids. Unlike neurotic straight guys I actually have an extended family and social group so I don't have to contrive one that has to put up with me in the form of a nuclear family. My sister has kids and I'm the cool uncle and that's enough for me. But I will never care for or pay for a child of my own.

>>511393490 (OP)
Not my problem.

>>511393490 (OP)
I couldn't provide my children an escape from the jew system so I refuse to provide the jew with more slaves. Fuck you. Fuck kikes.

>>511395052
Yeah but at least you have enough money to marry a british woman.. the world is yours

>>511393490 (OP)
True. My entry into fatherhood was stunted by video game addiction and chronic mate handicapping due in all part to geographic sample. Women in my area are brainwahsed narcissists if attractive or urakai or dumb. Not to mention the population has been flushed with browns from the south.

My options in college were dumb, slightly hot russian girl with pierced nips. Have babies here and now cute ginger with a fat ass (i should have stayed with her but the in-laws would have been a nightmare). Crazy chinese girl who swore I got her pregnant when theres now way because I pull out like king Arthur. Fat latina that was fantastic at sucking cock but she had a child (NO). Pic rel latina wanted me to breed her badly but I pussied out because she knew where I lived which risked filing for child support.

I'll post the othe girls it anyone care.

>>511395166

Yeah that's a good heuristic, any time you hear "real man" you're being manipulated.

>>511394889
>>511395045
>my ex is 20 and im 32
Me and my gf is the same age gap but she's chinese and they don't really see it as weird or wrong unless they're extremely americanized. In fact they tend to prefer that kind of age gap since the man is more likely to be serious and not just a dumb horny teenager bullshitting to get pussy etc.

>>511393490 (OP)
You're a massive faggot if you start a family in 2025. Your wife will leave you, take half your shit, and turn your kids against you lol

>>511395301
Yeah dude you might've pussied out but there was 0% chance of a good outcome with that...thing

>>511393490 (OP)
First step to starting a family is finding a woman who would be a good mother.
Fix yourself and you may find a man who trusts you enough to raise your kids.

>>511394889
Females don't care what age you are, just what makes between thier legs tingle. Same way most guys would fuck a 50 year old woman if she were smoking hot. And, a funny thing about women is that it's not just looks that make their pussies tingle. They actually can get turned on by what a man does, his status, power, popularity. They actually find those things physically attractive. Most men don't give a shit about a woman's status or what she does. Unless she's a virgin who cooks. That is sexy in a woman. Where's 20 year old women will see a 50 year old man who makes money and controls some things, and actually see him as sexy.

>>511395214
As I said, you are not in the West so your women might be more normal but this idea of you working to make 50% more and then getting all the young women in a Western country is fantasy. Abroad it might be very possible but all age gap relationships I know are usually with a foreign woman. If you are some guy who says I only want a Western woman then that is probably not going to happen anymore past 30 if you don't accept a hag. It is not even because of lacking attraction but feminism. If a Western woman gets into what is perceived as an age gap relationship she is seen as less feminist and that makes her lose status among her peers so you would need to be extremely high status for that to compensate it. Also the more higher in a company you get the more scrutiny you are under so you cannot hit on women anymore if you don't want to risk your job. That is why all men who are in large age gaps usually are with foreign women.

>>511395291
I would rather have a bucket of fentanyl dropped on my ass than marrying a British or British-socialized woman.

>>511395336
> foreign woman
As I said

>>511393490 (OP)
>Collective shout now trawling /pol/
Bitch, you got what you want, welcome to feminism

>>511395375
marry and. start a family in a 3rd world country. you get citizenship, sons and no risk of child support, divorce rape, or wage garnishment. do not under any circumstances bring her here though

>>511393490 (OP)

Could you pls hang yourself, you worthless piece of shit fucking nigger.

>>511393490 (OP)
Import the niggers. My cum, my choise.

>>511393490 (OP)
After 24 you should be thinking about settling down if you havent already.

>>511395152
Well first, I didn't say you needed kids to be happy. I feel absolutely sure some childless men feel fucking ecstatic.

But this...
>Men, living in reality with their eyes open, don't have the privilege of being "happy".
This is just fucking cope over your own miserable existence.

Why would I pay for additional responsibilities and no legal pussy access?
I do not make deals that are disadvantageous for me

>>511395336
>they tend to prefer that kind of age gap since the man is more likely to be serious and not just a dumb horny teenager bullshitting to get pussy etc.
sounds like you are a betabuxx chinkchaser coping hard

>>511393490 (OP)
Dude nobody cares. Go start a family if you want, nobody gives a shit.

>>511395412
She's the type of feminist that endlessly virtue signals and loudly whines about the reality of gender roles, but then wants to be contrarily and utterly possesed by BWC. I will never trust those women.

>>511395667
this advice only applies if you’re a, christcuck, betabuxx, under 6ft or all 3

>>511393490 (OP)
>breed more slaves goyim
kill yourself

>>511395573
They are much better than german women ,so there's that. But I wouldn't mind a fraulein from a remote german village desu..anything r1b is better at this point

>>511393588
Angel falls, not the biggest waterfall but the tallest. Near 800 meters fall

>>511395688
The art of the deal

>>511395596
Goes to show that expectations inflate endlessly. Imagine someone saying that who has 10 million dollars or so like 50 in 2010

>>511395765
That is what OP wants to force on you

>>511395814
You idealize something that is awful, Western women suck.

>>511395876
Nigel, I thought you banned yourself?

>>511395166
It's a shaming tactic. They don't understand this type of shaming is outdated and doesn't work on these circles. At least when talking about happiness there's an incentive being proposed. That's the correct way to argue a pro-natalist position. You are right to feel repulsed by such argument, it's intellectually offensive. I do hope the pro-natalist side wins but not with such a lame argument.

>>511393490 (OP)
Probably won’t have kids till I’m 35
Currently 31

>>511395814
>I wouldn't mind a fraulein from a remote german village
Nothing is "remote" in the age of socmedia, you end up getting the same shit deal as in every brownie-filled urban dystopia.

>>511395892
So move, nigga

>>511393588
Based

>>511393490 (OP)
Post your hand with your wedding ring and timestamp
Otherwise fuck off faggot

>>511395939
I have a flight to Turkey in a few days.

>>511395912
Still not blocked. I'm trying to enjoy some shitposting before the inevitable

>>511393490 (OP)
Oh my God, your post has filled me with social anxiety and demoralization. I'm biting my nails over not reaching milestones like everyone else in my generation. How will I look the world in the eyes now? I'm so ashamed of being a failure. Your post cut too deep, man. I have failed my duty as an American to heed the call of building a family. It truly is over.

>>511394119
lmao the majority of married men I know are already alone and miserable despite being 3 or 4 marriages deep, and being primed for the next divorce robbery.

I'm alone, but I'm not miserable.

>>511394001
>>511394018
Anglokikes are grumbling and seething lol

>>511393588
FPBP, let the Jewish society fall.

>>511395675
Every existence is miserable because you always want what you can't have. But every existence is also happy because there's always something to appreciate and enjoy.
You seem to place "happy" as the ultimate goal of life and I'm just saying it doesn't really mean anything. It's just an internal state of mind. Two people can be in the exact same circumstance, one will be "happy" and the other "unhappy". If it works for you, good for you.

I'm good. There's only east asians who want to marry for permanent residency.
Everyone else is retarded, expecting a man to make 100k/yr while they expect to make 0/yr for having a hole.

>>511393490 (OP)
>blaming man
Many such cases.

>>511394119
Cope, he’s going to die hard. He’s a Eurochad while you are a muttgolem.

>>511396050
Learn to read, you stupid nigger. I'm suggesting they don't breed.

I got married and reproduced. AMA.

>>511395979
Good. If you want a girl, turk girls are not like westerners. Different set of complexes and problems, but not the dead-end if westoid extinction feminism.

>>511396050
They really do screech and seethe and shit themselves when sensible people want nothing to do with the hellscapes they builts.

>>511394423
Same
>>511394456
For sex

>>511393490 (OP)
Pickings are slim for a good wife.
I had a nice girlfriend when I was younger but she slowly got twisted by social media. Her friends encouraged her to cheat in secret.

I am not saying non-Western women are perfect, they probably dig more for gold but this idea of destroying yourself because you're bored exists nowhere else. Or getting irrationally angry about a man with a younger woman. Same with always putting men down despite doing worse themselves. Or getting fat and then complaining about average men who are thinner than them. This shit I have seen nowhere else but Western countries
> He is such a loser, still only an assistant lawyer after X amount of years
> but Barbara you're not even a lawyer but a legal assistant
> doesn't matter he still is a loser
This is how women here are, an example conversation I recently heard

>>511396082
>You seem to place "happy" as the ultimate goal of life
Yes, I do.
>Two people can be in the exact same circumstance, one will be "happy" and the other "unhappy".
Yes, exactly.

>>511396157
Wanted to quote you >>511396214

>>511393490 (OP)
>dude just a child who will grow up as a minority in his own country and with divorced parents.

>>511393490 (OP)
Ok and?

>>511393696
Isaac Newton had no kids

>>511396082
Bro if someone offered you the option to be happy almost all the time, you would take it over ANYTHING.
You would sacrifice anything to have that, if it were available.

>>511393490 (OP)
>bro just start a family when you have a job you hate, what's the worst that can happen?

>>511396095
The worst part is even if you pay for it you rarely, or never even get to use that hole because the cunt is still hung up about the one time she managed to trick a chad into a drunken lay and she's just using you for your shit while she holds her arm out looking for the next tree to jump on to.

>>511393696
Women don’t want me. I live with it. The same way people lived and died in the past. Many vast numbers of people died alone in terrible ways. Being run down by Mammoths, hunted by the Mongols, or cut down in childhood by Norsemen. There are so many ways one could lose their life. I am at the very least thankful to be alive for the days I have. Women are a secondary concern to living.

Great organic and totally not Jewish thread.

>>511395961
Married Bong Chad here, 26 with three kids. Have sex faggot and create some kids

>>511396199
Australia is brutal. Gets under your skin.

>>511395892
Just wait until you meet romanian women.. you would start kissing the feet of british women soon enough. My plan is to reach 6 digits - visit UK - and marry a british woman in her early 30's low to middle class is good enough.

>>511396319
Western women don't want average men, even if they are below average by international standards in all aspects but income. And lets be real, that is because of the countries we created. Abroad women would like you, in America no chance.

>>511396350
Forgot pic rel

>>511396240
Thank you, I am honored my friend.

>>511396319
DONT YOU DARE JUST BE CONTENT YOU FUCKING GOY HOW DARE YOU. YOU NEED TO BUY A PRODUCT YOU INSOLENT SLAVE GOY CATTLE. WOMAN MAKES YOU BUY PRODUCT. SO GET WOMAN NOW GOY.

>>511396319
This guy gets it.

>>511396405
>>511396350
Make me you gay nigger

>>511394028
Where do you retards get this stuff? Almost every society that invented agriculture had marriage rates above 90%.

>>511393490 (OP)
My father have me at 50

>>511396144
was it worth it?
I already know the answer is no, don't know why I'm asking

>>511396466
My uncle just made a kid at 60 lol
No idea why, but he did.

>If you haven't [done thing that I or society am expecting you to do] you have failed.
And why should I care? I have failed to meet your expectations. What does that failure earn me other than your disapproval?
>The amount of money you have is irrelevant and pointless.Your career achievements are irrelevant and pointless. The only legacy that matters is our children and our family and you have no none.
Your first two points are correct. The last is incorrect. Children and legacy are equally pointless.
>you have spat in the face of nature
And I'll do it again.
>The whole point of life biologically is
Why should I care?
>God himself
I am Gnostic. The being you call God is in fact the devil. This world is his prison. The legacy you seek is to condemn more souls to a hellhole where the only constant is misery.

>>511393490 (OP)
why shill do 1ptbid threads but in others they stay and post crap?

>>511395892
the west ilexists soley to redistribute wealth from men to women, because women spend it on jewish bullshit and men save

>>511396361
You don't need some aribtary sum of money to get them. Don't wait to achieve some milestone in life to feel good enough, at the end of the day it is the law of numbers, you should reach out starting today if that is what you want. Rejection rate might be higher but you also have more time if you don't waste years to get to some arbitrary point

>>511396352
Best part is Aussie women themselves are fucking ugly. The sun, it burns their skin and they age faster than all people.

>>511396415
Why?

>>511393696
> my manhood depends on this criteria as outlined by ‘ Le ebin society’
lol, no

>>511396466
He didn’t enjoy you in his prime

>>511396502

Destroy society

>>511396405
small bathroom
cheap watch
not very enticing bruv

>>511396472
I tell this to everyone who asks:

Marriage is for the spiritual man ONLY. If you care about money or material possessions, DO NOT DO IT.

>>511396527
It’s not society it’s biology cunt

I’m turning 34 next month and my gf is turning 33. We’ve been dating for 6 months. Kids just aren’t going to happen

>>511396472
I've been with my wife over 25 years, have three sons together, and I feel it is very worth it. But, I don't think it's for everyone. It should be done only under certain circumstances, and not everyone should do it, or needs to do it in order to have a happy life. In fact for some people getting a wife and having kids would probably be detrimental to their life and happiness.

It's nice, but it's not for everyone.

>>511396521
>Why
Because you quoted me

Turk women are good btw, despite the retarded seethe my statement might cause.
FAGGOT incels will praise literal brown macaques from the Philippines but then jump down my throat for having something good to say about Turk girls.

>>511396580
It doesn't work because the state is involved in it and all incentive point to the woman having advantages when leaving you.

>>511396636
A woman at 33 can still have 3-4 children time-wise. Having said that it is not wise to date a woman that old in general

>>511396521
You're right but idk how to aproach them,they have a different culture, any tips?

>>511396405
I’m not willing to take that risk. But I’ll have kids regardless

If you go back 100 years in my family tree everyone remembers the guy who did bad stuff not all the ones who had kids

>>511396636
you shouldn’t be dating women over age 25

>>511396609
Then what's the point of your retarded thread. 4chan posts are not "biology"

>>511396609
I am in my 50s. It’s societal, not biological you fucking mental infant
Kill yourself

>>511396698
I tried dating younger women, I dated a 26 year old for 2 months and it didn’t work. Then I dated a 28 year old that ended after a few weeks. The only one who actually showed interest me in first was this girl. Sadly she’s not a us citizen so there isn’t much I can do

>>511393490 (OP)
Go to hell, fucking Jews, I won't support your gulag, I'd rather convert to Islam than give birth to slaves for you.

>>511396717
Lol, what was the bad stuff?

>>511396702
retard

>>511393490 (OP)
Fefails and jew slaves are pointless.
Unless you're their jewish slaveowner.

>>511396695
I checked all countries and found that they are very young on average as well as non-pozzed in comparison, relatively speaking. Well-behaved too. Sometimes 4chan is inverted reality

>>511396702
Go online on language exchanges, maybe you find some odd woman who has the quirky interest into Balkanoid cultures, vampires or something.

>>511396767
Why didn't it work?

>have kids before WW3
nah

>>511396779
Are you going to convert to islam?

>>511396785
Don't bully me

>>511396275
No because I don't think that's a thing. It's a childish way to look at life. To be "happyyy".
You can't be in a state of bliss all the time, it's anti-nature. I think this is just a pointless way to argue and when I hear that someone should do X so they can be happy it sounds like gibberish, it's like someone saying you must drink blue so you don't square. Just a meaningless string of words.

>>511396767
>younger women
>26 and 28
bruh

>>511396762
Do you have kids and a family?

Men have like 4 decades to have children. Relax, guys.

>>511396874
I wouldn't mind, Turks are harmless on religion. The main reason why I wouldn't go to Bosnia for a woman is that you guys already do lack women. Also I don't feel sorry for Turks after they have taken advantage of my ethnicity for decades. The least they can do in return is give some of us some foids.

>>511395921
Bro you're gonna be looking like a grandpa at the high school PTA meeting

>>511393490 (OP)
Have you seen modern women? Have you talked to even one of them?

>>511396911
To most Americans that is younger women. Here younger usually means around 10 years younger than yourself.

>>511393490 (OP)
You should speak for yourself. Nobody here is going to about your roasty simp post. You go have kids with a fat whale.

>>511396879

gay retard homo

>>511396954
This is not a problem for me, but that also isn’t true so lol

>>511396934
Cope. The younger you are the better. You have energy to actually raise them. By 50 you should be having grandchildren not children.

>>511396783
If I had to guess it’s probably some Mountain West guy who has a bandit ancestor. All of the people who live out there descend from the same 1500 people from 1830 and half of them went out there because they were criminals.
But he is right. My oldest known ancestor in the Americas fled Germany for the murder of a priest and everyone in the family knows his name. Inbetween him and me I can not name anyone past my great grandfather.

>>511396841
appreciate the advice. I very much doubt any british grl wants to learn romanian though.. maybe i should buy some plane tickets and pretend to be a youtube travel streamer

>>511397001
Not cool

>>511396540
He enjoyed my mom in her prime that's what matters

>>511396961
Yes because I am a modern woman. We all want children and families of our own. It’s men who don’t.

>>511396841
I look too old for my age, and my hair isn’t all there. When people blind guess they say 40+ Younger women won’t want anything to do with me unless I offer them money which I don’t have

>>511396911
I don’t meet girls younger than that organically. My gym partner refuses to help me talk to girls under 30 (he’s 26). I don’t have any options unless I to autistic places like museums or libraries

>>511396896

Do you not understand hypotheticals?

I said, IF someone offered you to be in a good mood almost all of the time, and you knew what that was like, you would sacrifice your mother and your left leg for it because it would be so good.

>You can't be in a state of bliss all the time, it's anti-nature.

Yeah, you think so because you're dysphoric. I know only a few people who are in a good mood lost of the time, admittedly they are stupid. But I would swap with them in a heartbeat.

>>511396923
Irrelevant . That’s a societal judgement. Have I passed on my genes, a biological imperative ( all that actually matters) yes

I won. I’ve done my job. By not playing the rest of this shit game gg no re

>>511396272
>Isaac Newton had no kids
Yes our civilization is dysgenic and its doomed to colapse.

>>511397055
the day i wake up as a koala or a kangaroo is the day i let an aussie tell me what to do

>>511396934
this, men have a slightly longer biological clock than women
seethe OPina

>>511397170
Passing your genes into a napkin doesn’t count. Do you have children and a family?

>>511397112
TITS AND GET THE FUCK OUT
hang on
GET THE FUCK OUT

>>511397055
> By 50 you should be having grandchildren not children.
The average Western man these days isn't ready to have children before 30, you are basically sending the guys to end up in disastrous situations and then they will think that having children does suck by default. The entire thread is delusional

>>511397123
Change the gym partner, he is a cuck

>>511397074
Could also work. You never know though, at the end of the day you only need 1

>>511393588
fpbp

>>511393490 (OP)
Saars, do not redeem

>>511397170
If it works good on you.
If the women adore nigger baby daddies that much, time to do the vanishing act like one

>>511393490 (OP)
>not working towards being able to buy immortality
ngmi

>>511394249
It decreases singe people bar and club partying and greatly increases partying with whoever your kid's friends parents are

>>511397112
Would you have a child with a men you don't see attractive (a.k.a. a bottom 85% men)
Do this, would you have a child with a 1.75m nerdy men who studies accounting and is from a lower middle class family, consider that he is not attractive by any means
Be honest

I can't have kids, I found out I'm sterile. Nature and my genetics failed me :(

It's over for me, you guys go on without me...

>>511397219
I have partaken in the formation of a child and I have family.. everything else is irrelevant.

>>511397112
>We all want children and families of our own
Only with chad

>>511397234
>man these days isn't ready to have children before 30
Not to mention some people never grow up. Drug addicted retards make terrible parents.

>>511397308
Why? Are you Klinefelter or something?

>>511396951
You don't know in advance how religious or secular the girl will be.
Go, and enjoy.
Try to really max out on the friends and contacts you make there, hit the booze and the nose powder, eat zinc and don't coom. After Germany, Turkey is a refreshing and wild place.

>>511396563
Yeah because I'm the only one with an income so we have to go without so mummy doesn't have to get a job. You're so pathetic it's unreal

>>511396954
Idc

>yes goy have more kids because we need more slaves to our system

Fuck off

>>511397319
Still no tits with timestamp
Sad larp

>>511393490 (OP)
>God himself
The derp was strong before this, but any grown man who still believes in magic invisible floating faggot in the sky is either a card-carrying retard who can't detect the most obvious of bullshit, or a coward who lacks the balls to cope with his own mortality.
Regarding reproduction, some people, for whatever reason just have no interest in reproducing. It is simply a non-issue. I knew when I was young that I had zero interest in losing my time, money and freedom to a screaming shit machine, and decades later there has been not a single moment that I wish I had. It's just not a big deal. The species is not exactly endangered.
Also, breeders (OP is a good example) are often hostile to non-breeders. This is telling. I harbour no ill-will to anyone based on their reproduction choices. But breeders do. I suspect it's because they secretly regret their decision, and their loss of freedom.

yes yes more souls for the jewish meat grinder hell machine world

>>511397112
Oh, so that's why you're so stupid and your posts/manipulation are so clueless

>>511397333
> checked

ITS THE MULE REEEEEEE

>>511393490 (OP)
I had a kid when I was 23 with a dumb slut who was in bad girl prison and turned 18. It was a small town and the girls who didn't have a home to go back to ended up partying and sleeping on couches until they got a boyfriend out of it. The kid is 28 now and she turned out pretty good. Don't wait for Ms. Perfect to come along because it ain't gonna happen and before you know it you'll be too old.

>>511394119
Literally nobody has any illusions about how their life would end. We're just going to subject our children to an even worse nightmare world with even worse prospects. I'm just not going to produce more futureless tax cattle, sorry schlomo

>>511397097
ok there Assface McButtcheeks

>>511397329
It is what it is, we are too childish maybe but we also economically on average are underdeveloped so it creates a sink effect. Women have to date older men by idk 5-15 years if they want someone who is more stable.

>>511397337
I just think it isn't fair to take women from countries that really struggle to survive and haven't really taken as much benefits from my country. Turkey has taken tons of shit from my country including women so it is only fair I leverage my wealth etc. there to attract the best woman I can find. Which arguable is head and heals above anything that is available here.

>>511397433
What?

>>511397112
>I am a modern woman.
Then STFU about men, and get the fuck back in the kitchen.
>We all want children and families of our own.
Lol, being a boss bitch with a simp to cleanup the shit show you make your life is not being a wife and mother.
>It’s men who don’t
Men don't want a flighty whore, who will divorce rape him and then troon his children to spite him.
There is no problem with men. Women do not want relationships, they want status symbols.

>>511397234
True , I'm gonna start looksmaxing this year ,get my body im shape again and possibly research about uk's best places to meet decent anglo women.

>>511397436
>I had a kid when I was 23 with a dumb slut who was in bad girl prison and turned 18. It was a small town and the girls who didn't have a home to go back to ended up partying and sleeping on couches until they got a boyfriend out of it. The kid is 28 now and she turned out pretty good. Don't wait for Ms. Perfect to come along because it ain't gonna happen and before you know it you'll be too old.
This is everything that I would want to avoid. Awful.

>>511397219
Do you?

>>511397152
Just because I didn't answer your question the way you wanted to doesn't mean there was any misunderstanding.
I think I was pretty clear, the answer is no I wouldn't.
First, I don't believe in your conception of "happy" to even be a real thing that I don't already experience all the time. Second, no I wouldn't sacrifice the people I love and value so I could feel "happyyy". You are assuming my "happiness" is worth more to me than anything else.
Your weird attempt to pathologize is a bizarre deflection. Whether or not people present themselves as having a "good mood" tells you nothing about their internal state of "happiness". I have a good friend of mine who is always in a good mood and I had deep conversations with him where he told me he does that for purely utilitarian reasons because he believes the world is better for everyone if everyone acts as if they are in a good mood. This tells you nothing about how he really feels. You call them stupid because you have never thought about these things.

>>511397550
Good luck Romania

>>511397333

C H E C K E D

No, I'm shredded and can bench 225 for reps easy. Above average testosterone levels. Physically I look perfectly fine, some said even handsome. But my balls don't produce sperms. I found out after banging my ex for a year with no birth control and creampieing her multiple times most days. I went to a clinic out of curiosity (not that we were planning on having a kid, I just figured it would happen and we'd raise a family, but nothing did which I thought was weird considering how many accidental pregnancies happen with couples and hook ups) and they detected nothing. Not much can be done apparently, plus our medical system is completely broken now so I have to wait at least 4 years until a doctor will look at me

The upside is I am liberated from the pressure of when to start a family and the ever worsening financial stresses life subjects us to. In this case, I am simply a genetic dead end and incapable of doing it

>>511397340
enjoy betabuxxing

>>511393490 (OP)
What you need to realize is that a whole lot of people are perfectly okay with this.
I'm 35 even. Don't want kids. I am find being the last of my bloodline.
I don't want to deal with crying toddlers for the next 6 years of my life, then deal with children for the next 10 and then deal with puberty fags. All while dumping 30% of my income into them.
Will this lead to societal collapse? Don't know don't care.
I see the horrors of children in the few friends that have them. Their entire lifestyles forever altered. Their free time reduced to maybe 1~2 hours a day.
Even having a girlfriends seems like such a gigantic massive waste of resources and time. What I need to be around someone the entire day and babysit them? For what affection and sex?
Society fucked up hard when they made all of this replaceable.
I can watch content or use tools to feel affection.
I am perfectly satisfied with masturbation.
My life goals are easily replaced with more mundane goals in life such as video games, nerdy hobbies or traveling.
I get to live a life way beyond my standards because I keep my male income 100% of it.

>>511397058

That's the best thing I've read all day!
Did you know that two male ancestors of Andrew Anglin's were robbers who escaped Alcatraz in the 1960s?
CRIMEMAXXING is the future

>>511397286
Answer Whore
>>511397112

>>511397112
Kys yo

>>511397595
Thanks anon, i love german people,so kind

>>511397623
Sounds like Pajeet science, in most cases something can be done in case of the man because the understanding of the male reproductive system is greater than of the female one.

>>511397722
Only the ethnic German men, our women suck desu.

>>511397112
This is a straight up lie. The vast majority either don't want kids or don't want them until they're in their 40s, and the rare exceptions are either already married or in denial about it because it clashes with their feminist ideals.

>>511397112
No you don't, you literally got what you want
You now reap what you sow

>>511394028
>historically most men didn't get to score fucking faggot
That's an interestig point. In the history of our species, what percentage would have died virgins?

>>511393696
This is now a fox thread.

>>511395052
>german women suck
what, german women are great

>>511397753
Are they feminists? You guys are smart,I'm sure you will figure out a way to fix them

>>511397526
Obscure Asimov reference anon, sorry.
This entire bread cracks me up. There are precisely two correct approaches to this thread.
Premise one - have you reproduced in a biologically successful fashion y/n
Premise two , not withstanding premise one, have you done so biologically and then met these additional and evolutionarily irrelevant milestones
And three, how can op, a faggot, use these to gauge anons’ manhood using completely retarded metrics only a fuckhole could invent

>>511397764
>>511397672

>>511397732
Yeah but our medical system is completely jeeted now and since it is public, you are put on a "needs based waitlist" and our country is in crisis, which means almost no one gets anything because unless you're literally bleeding out or dying of obesity diseases like a nigger, they just label it as "not needed" and you don't get it. You can't do anything about that, it's their decision. And I don't have a spare $50k to go to a private fertility clinic so yeah, I'm priced out plus it's over

>>511397590
Nigga why are you kidding the waters?

You are a melancholic fuck who thinks it's the only possible state.
I'm saying no, it's possible to feel good.
You know what it means to feel good, it's just that you haven't felt so In many years so you think it's out of reach/for children/whatever cope.

How is that complicated?

>>511397265
Ehh, it doesn't have to. Granted though the first few years it's tough. Newborns, babies, toddlers, they have to be watched and tended too constantly. It definitely drains you. But, after they're 4 or 5 years old you can drag them around mostly anywhere with you. I'm a musician and I own a bar/restaurant on the beach. My sons have grown up, after age four or so, touring with me or hanging out with me at the bar. I don't feel they negatively impacted my social activity at all. Plus, like you said kids open up other relationships to other parents to hang out with.

>>511397767
spawn-camping, which is what the jews are doing in gaza, probably muddles those numbers a bit

>>511396717
>>511397058
story goes that he was a crazy guy who murdered at least 3 people then ran off a cliff because he thought Satan was chasing him

>>511397112
Because you are a woman you don't understand why your arguments don't resonate as deeply as you would expect them to.
First of all you are in a den of contrarians, and we will always find a way to disagree with you and deboonk you so you really need to have an airtight hard case.
Then you can't make these feminine appeals to social shame and status like "you're not a real man" that's something that works on women much better. Same for the fomo-mindset of "what about when you're old". Everyone already thought about that and decided it's irrelevant.
The argument for happiness is at least something but you gotta flesh it out. Explain how there's an irrational part of the self that can't be understood through logic or reason and that the modern technological male mind is disconnected from and that they can only understand it once they have kids and feel it for real in the real world. That should be much more effective than all these other angles.
Anyway I'm going to sleep gotta start playing project epoch tomorrow 15 hours a day for the next 3 months

>>511397672
>>511397286

Check mate

>>511397835
theres a phenomenon created by globalism feminism where usually the women of a country prefer men from another country, for various reasons. a big one is shes been fucked by so many guys from her country it does nothing for her dopamine anymore and needs something /someone different and new to get off

>>511394871
It's a roastie left out in the cold and/or a glownigger running damage control after Chad threw Tea in the river.
>WKMAX

>>511396272
Hey pal newsflash youre not Isaac Newton

>>511397760
>This is a straight up lie. The vast majority either don't want kids or don't want them until they're in their 40s, and the rare exceptions are either already married or in denial about it because it clashes with their feminist ideals.
Even most feminists want children, they only arrive at that conclusion at age 35 or so, are still picky then and expect men to just pay for their expensive fertility treatment. Most feminist women are losers. They have loser jobs, they usually allowed about a dozen men to fuck them for free and they don't have any savings either. I have such a case in my direct family.

>>511397835
>>511397843
Among the worst on earth, my solution is to replace them.

>>511397864
Idk if you are set to inherit property or something you could sell it to a jeetoid and just move to Hungary where you would immediately be top 5% net worth then.

>>511397977
>he believes he’s talking to a woman
>he typed a paragraph
you need to lurk more

>>511396779
You'd rather convert to a jewish abrahamic religion? So you'd rather be a spiritual slave is what you're saying

>>511393490 (OP)
>set your life together in a way where you will soon have kids (I.e. you’re engaged and in a long term relationship)
This is how you fail at having kids. She'll never be "ready," you just have to bust inside her when you feel like it. Don't marry a bitch until she's pregnant or has already had your (DNA tested) kid. Marriage is for the purpose of children, not taking care of some cunt. You owe nothing to her unless she bears your children.

>>511397514
>Which arguable is head and heals above anything that is available here.

100%

>>511393490 (OP)
What about the otaku lolicons here? Think they should attempt to breed too?

>>511397977
>he believes he’s talking to a woman
>he typed a paragraph
summerfag moment

>>511398109
Theyve been disqualified from the gene pool by even using those words

>>511397886
>feel good
I feel good when I look at the stars.
I feel good when I eat an icecream.
I feel good when I listen to a good song.
Why are you telling me I haven't felt good in years or whatever? You're a weirdo trying to play the mind-reading shrink or something instead of understanding the point.
The point is that "happy" is a trivial thing found everywhere while simultaneously being a utopian thing noone can reach. It's childish to look at it as the peak of the mountain. Anyway I'm falling asleep here g2g

If you dont have kids your life is meaningless and useless that is true. Im with my 230lb 5'9 gf who worships me cause im a solid 7. That's better than being a single childless gooning faggot

>>511393490 (OP)


>>511393588
OP BTFO

>>511397633
Nice try mutt but my kids will be whiter then you ever were

>>511397550
>meet decent anglo women.
>decent anglo women

Bro I've lived there. You are misunderstanding reality. Your chances of finding this are ZERO.

>>511398000
I tested this with apps and in Germany women are not that interested in me, abroad they are.

>>511398077
Turkish women don't have the same opportunities to economic ascension so they have to compete by being more agreeable and filtering for better providers. Western women have money they usually waste and the only reason they need money from men later on is to fix their previous failures
> Waited to almost 40s to have children, husband pay for my fertility treatment
> Pay off my college debt (if USA)
> pay off my car loans
> pay off my consumer / credit card debt
And all of that after they have been fucking douchebags for 15 years. Western women are a bubble, they are what people say BTC is. Once men arrive at that conclusion, it is game over. It is why they are so afraid of AI or passport bros. In the end they still rely on men to step up and fix their shit, hence why society is afraid young men drop out as the implication is that in 10-20 years there won't be any retards to settle for available

>>511398073
>She'll never be "ready,"
It was the opposite for me. My wife wanted kids when we were 21 years old. I feel for the boomer nonsense that you needed all this material bullshit before you have kids. I regret not knocking her up at 18. If I knew at 18 what I now know at 44 I would have raw dogged her everyday at 16.

>>511395920
Except there isn't any incentive, only entitled demands which is why a supermajority of men prefer robots.

>>511398301
Teach me ,how are they?

>>511398358
You are doing the same what boomers did, overcorrecting, they extended it endlessly while you shorten it. There is barely any teenager that is able to be a good father and society shouldn't push it as that only leads to another overcorrection

>>511397112
Someone get the phone, because I fucking called it!
I will answer the phone for pic related.

>>511398109
Kek they should run wild and sow wild oatz

>>511397112
I hope you get raped to death you fucking whore

>>511393490 (OP)
Im in a 9 year relationship with my girlfriend, have a job and license, and all I care about right now.is stacking paper so that I can buy a bunch of weed and acid so I can bust another mega nut while blasting tyler the creator

The world.is a simulation nigga, a literal video game

Idgaf just have fun
That's what our world leafers are doing (in a gross way)

>>511398361

>>511393490 (OP)
Fuck women’s rights and fuck you.

I cannot imagine giving up on my life to be together with someone or raise children.
What are the benefits? What do I get in return besides losing my precious time?

Having said that I rather approach in person, but in places like the UK with its shrill feminist women that doesn't feel like a too good idea. This is also why I think Bosnia and I have so different ideas of what is possible in terms of age gaps. Men in Western countries just are pot committed to keeping their jobs so hence they rather play it safe avoiding to trigger social backlash Only men with fuck you money can do that hence you see this extreme shit like Bill Bellichek in the US who is like 70 with a 24 yo but people are worried here about a decade which seems modest in comparison. It is not that they can't, it is that they conclude it is safer not to risk anything. Hence I rather shoot my shot in an area that isn't subjected to these dysgenic ideas.

>>511398637
This is a virgin nigcel

>>511397977
Faggot

>>511398637
Forgot to mention no one can blame me since our kid got aborted a year ago

money was the reason her family made her do it

Op, you gotta admit money is the root of all this bullshit lol

>DAYA4

>>511393490 (OP)
You meet a really great woman.
Weeks spent talking, dating, and the sex is awesome.
She says she wants to get closer to you and share everything.
Then one night with tears in her eyes she gives you her "Slut Confession"... and a part of your soul dies.
Every. Single. Time.

>>511398726
The leaf whines since he knows im right haha

If you aren't in the top 5% of all human males in every conceivable metric, then it's over for you.
Blame women for dooming us with their evil greedy ways and blame simps for allowing it. We could be breeding fully cognizant AI anime wifebots by now but faggots and whores keep letting the jews stop this.
If you are upset or hurt, I recommend to do at least ONE thing to hurt jews, whores and simps daily. Keep a bottle of paint in your coat pocket to throw on women's windshields. Take cartfulls of tampons and leave them around the store so bleeding whores can't find them when they need them. It can really be any little thing but it all adds up to justice.

>>511398637
It requires a certain IQ to fully appreciate the pointlessness of life. The try-hard brigade like OP are running on their hamster-wheel because, essentially, they are mummies' boys who have swallowed mummy's mindless, instinctive craving for validation.

>>511398315
They just haven't grown up with the same brainwashing in childhood.

>>511398493
Okay let me just tell you one example. One girl, friend of a friend, had a crush on me as a teenager, she was from a middle class family and we bonded over literature, Dostoyevsky, LOTR and stuff, it was 2004.
Then I moved countries but we kind of kept in touch over the years.
She was the studious type, warm and somewhat shy and agreeable. Got into Cambridge, studied Politics and Philosophy, graduated with honors.
???
what now
Just kinda drifts around for years, works as a cop, messages me about running an experiment where she fucks a new man every day. I asked her how many she was up to, she said about 25 by now.
???
Now middle-aged, bitter, no kids.

I'm telling you this because she was practically the best human material you could get there, and that's how they live.
He family was very on point, she had no early-life trauma.

If you go to the UK of all places to look for a woman, you will end up with either nothing or worse than nothing.

Hitler would castrate all of u

>>511398497
I would have been fine as a father at 18. It's not some Herculean feat, niggers do it all the time. I was capable of providing food and shelter at that age. The boomer advice you're talking about, where you slave until you're 30 then find someone to settle for you was bullshit. It's not an over correction, the boomers were just ass backwards extremely wrong about it all.

>>511398852
No, you're a cringe faggot.
>stacking paper
>weed
>acid
>Tyler the nigger
>Just have fun bros that's all that matters!
Kill your fucking self immediately so your parents can stop hating their lives

>>511393490 (OP)
dude we aint even getting pussy here, not even a hug or a kiss from a girl and you talk about family and kids? is you serious?

>>511398692
You get to pretend that your particular DNA is special, that it matters. When we look at a swarm of 10,000 flies, we see the uniformity, and the unremarkable individuals. The breeder cannot step back and see the same in himself.
He is spesh.

>>511398616

>>511398804
One old woman told me she got fucked by over 300 men in her life... And I was in the top 4.
Felt good bro!
I felt like printing myself a certificate and framing it!

>>511398804
Women don't do that, they are too egotistical for that.

>>511398854
It is BS because if that was true niggers and losers wouldn't be getting any women. Not the ones I would envy them for but they usually get some. This alone disproves the le top 5% bs or top 10% stuff, whatever arbitrage number you claim.

>>511398965
> niggers do it all the time
No, they fucking don't. That is the point.

>>511398927
Cmon man this is not a good heuristic, it was a 1 bad example and i'm sorry it happened to u. I'm sure not all of them are like that.

>>511398804
I got this, stayed with her, and I'm glad I did. I fully admit I got lucky though.

>>511398315
being a passport bro is the logical chess board conclusion for any man with an iq above 100. dont bring them back to the west though and filter out golddiggers

>>511398931
No.
I would get a job as state anime appraiser.

>>511399097
You can easily see that Western women are a bubble by how women who migrate here behave. I know men who imported Flip women here, and their daughters and adopted children (guys who are 50+ often save a late 20s single mom from there) quickly become the most hypergamous trash not realizing that any guy they would want could fly to their shithole country and get the 18yo version of them instantly. I don't find Asians attractive at all but when I realized this I knew Western women are a bubble.

>>511398927
Yeah but it is also the money. Westenr women have just enough money where they can delude themselves into thinking they are on the level of a man who is productive and successful even.

>>511398049
my life is unironically a tragedy. My grandma has a home freehold and a rental, but my parents decided to put her in a care home, sell everything, and give the cash to the care home. I tried to reason with them, offered to manage the houses as rentals, pretty much anything to make sure they didn't sell. But nah, they know best. They don't believe in anything. They don't deserve grandchildren, so I guess life has a way of working these things out

>>511399088
>and i'm sorry it happened to u

Sorry that what happened to me? She liked me more than I liked her. But she is a very good illustration of one of the best-case scenarios.
Do you think I just know a handful of people, when I told you I lived there?

It's culture rot, you can't sidestep or overcome it if it's there from the moment British kids are born.

Anyway, you sound clueless, I think this is a waste of time.

>>511399261
Basically we adjust our self-concept by objective standards, women just go by "what can I get away with". That is why Muslims usually raise better women than we do and why their women are more desirable as wifes than ours. Ironcially it is their on average objective failure to build functioning countries that gives us massive leverage in some of their countries, say Turkey or Morocco.

Nice demoralization thread, janny sponsored

>>511393490 (OP)
I'm 30 and virgin
I have money, live alone and happy
I want kids and a woman but I'm also fine with being alone.
Fuck off.

>>511399295
> Squnadering property in one of the most expensive markets on earth
I cant even, your parents belong in the pit.

>>511399295
That's sad. I would make their lives a living hell

>>511399261
Your money and economic leverage will definitely play in your favor. Maybe even look into working in Turkey for a division of some German corporation, if that's your thing

>>511397636
This cunt knows what's up. This is a high IQ in action.

>>511399450
I already do work remotely fren.

>>511399334
I am clueless that's why i was asking..but your empirical evidence is not convincing enough. Although i respect it and i understand where you're coming from.

>>511399295
Lmaooo

>>511399057
>you arbitrarily create more people
>they are your retirement plan
These are shit reasons to have children.

>>511399087
>niggers do it all the time
>No, they fucking don't. That is the point.
Yes they fucking do. Niggers constantly create more niggers without any way to provide for them. Yet somehow you never hear of nigger children starving to death in first world countries. It's almost impossible to not provide food and shelter for children in a first world country. If you say you can't provide the basic necessities for a child, I'd say you must be dumber than a nigger. If you say you can't provide a happy life and stable relationship to have kids, then I beleive you.

>>511399070
Joke?

>>511399424
My dad just let me mum decide everything. And she's fucking clueless. I tried to step in and reason with them, but they're genuinely just the type of people to put in the least amount of effort and regard to get something out of the way. To a boomer, kids are sort of just a problem, a thing that got in the way of their way of life, even though they chose to have them. You can't get through to them you can't reason with them, their minds are just calcified

>>511399509
please don't laugh at my misfortune anon

>>511399507
Ok you are Romanian so probably your intuition will be good enough that when you actually go there, you will see and feel that it's a barren place with barren people.

>>511399057
>We're just flies
I'm sure you live your daily life on this philosophy

>>511399559
>My dad just let me mum decide everything

Ah it's that lovely configuration.
Wimp dad, overbearing mom.

Happy wife, happy life!

>>511395375
Dude youre broke what is your wife gonna take? Half of you ps5 games? Married men make more money across the board

>>511399592
I'm going to avoid the feminist cesspools for sure, otherwise it would be a waste of my time. I will also avoid the posh areas.. for obvious reasons. Let's hope for the best.

>>511399673
PS5 games are disinformation.
I've never seen anyone have PS5 or PS5 games

>>511399704
That excludes everything, the entire country.
You can go to fucking Whitby or something and chat up the chain smoking toothless last remaining white girl at the chippie

>>511393588
Based Kek
This indeed

>>511399801
Hahaha u are funny.. man i hope it wont demoralize me seeing non whites ,if anything

>>511393490 (OP)
cumskin incels kek

>>511399619
>I'm sure you live your daily life on this philosophy
My life is very similar to others' lives
And you confirmed this:
>The breeder cannot step back and see the same in himself.
You're not spesh, champ. You just haven't worked that out yet. You may never work it out.

Get a neet gf while you work a job
.. Get all your tax dollars back lmao.. And if your gf has kids you get more money to pay for the kid. Easy shit.. If a nigger can so can u.

>>511399925
It's fucking grim, but I think you should go pursue your plan because it light have unpredictable outcomes, unlike sitting in your hometown.

>>511400020
>Get a neet gf
That's called a stay at home wife. If your wife doesn't stay at home, do you really even have a wife? Having a wagie wife just seems like having a female who lives with you, that you pimp out to other men 8 hours a day.

>>511400207

Career women take dick from their boss. Why wouldn't she?

>>511400040
I have to do it,i feel like my soulmate is a british woman,idk ...I must try

>>511400305
She should, technically you sold her time to her boss. He should be able to do whatever he wants with her.

>>511400207
Last time i chcked stay at home wives dont make $1700 a month from disability. Also pay the neet wife up to $1000 a month , thats 12K write off and now shes getting $2700 a month doing jack

OP is the biggest pisstaking cunt i have seen here for a while, and no one asked ah "her" (as if) if "she" had kids?