Is buddhism /pol/-approved?

>>511422923 (OP)
no, but it's better than any of the kike religions (judaism, christianity, islam)

It's more approved than retarded frog posters.`

Mahayana: based
Theravada: mid
Vajrayana: cringe

>>511422923 (OP)
As long as it's Rinzai

>>511422923 (OP)
>it is impossible for women to become enlightened
Sounds like a solid religion to me

>>511422988
So which is the true /pol/ religion?

>>511422923 (OP)
'ism' grammatically incorrect jew rat bug meme for hate

>>511423241
Gnosticism or Material Atheism
Pick one.

>>511423241
Natural order of nature does not require to believe in, only observe.

Believe is sort for be lie with

>>511423241
Racism.

>>511423463
>Material Atheism
jew rat invention ((( ism )))

>>511422923 (OP)
>Is buddhism /pol/-approved?
All religions are the same, and based on mushrooms. Siddhartha found enlightenment under a tree, so did Eve, and so did Moses...and Jesus was a mushroom.
Pol wants to believe absurd nonsense, instead of using their autism to recognize the mushroom pattern in all major religions.

>>511423197
>As long as it's Rinzai
the kyosaku stick is the best religious innovation in 5000 years, it was my favorite part of sesshin

>>511423241
Are you for open borders and tolerance of degenerate faggotry?
You want the /pol/ approved religion but you are asking to be told what to think instead of doing some demographic research to see which one politically aligns with you the most.
Seeing as how you like to be told what to think, I suggest you go browsing grifter podcasters, they are all equally cringe but you won't have to do any critical thinking with them you can just regurgitate empty talking points that don't measure up to the reality or real world consensus and become a useful idiot, they are always recruiting

>>511422923 (OP)
No, buddhism is literally a jeet cope for the caste system that the Vedic (whites) instituted. It captures all the negativity and anger that the dasa (jeets) had for being slaves and turns them into passive mental invalids.

>>511423501
Doesn't observation beget belief, as humans are naturally inquisitive and pattern noticing? Unless said philosophy promotes the rejection of these
>>511423463
>Gnosticism
Weren't these guys snuffed out by early christians?

>>511422923 (OP)
1 hour of breath meditation = less anxiety
2 hours of breath meditation = third eye stimulation
2+1 hours of breath meditation = quiet mind

>>511422923 (OP)
jews fear buddhism

i will NEVER worship a pedophilic kike who washed little boys feet

>>511423602
>Jesus was a mushroom.
Redpill me on this plox

>>511422923 (OP)

>worship self
>protect and nurture self hedonistically
>everything is part of everything else though
>reality is an illusion
>life is suffering
>give up all material possession
>don't eat animals
>don't eat animal.products either
>just be a malnourished nothing and shut up about it

No

Yes it's /pol/ religion.

>>511423751
Nice fanfiction you've got there you filthy we wuzing nigger. There was no "caste" system in India before the British occupation, let alone during Buddha's time.

It's atheism that larps as a religion.

>>511424035
No one knows what the fuck mushrooms are. They're not plants, they're not animals, they reproduce asexually and some are immortal. There's a good chance that fungi control our minds without us even knowing it.

>>511423751
>Religion of Eating poop is based
>Religion created by blue eyed man is cringe.

You are a dung muncher

>>511424580
There was no such thing as "religion" in India. We are a land of seekers, not worshipers. We had Dharma and Adharma. Civilized decent people follow Dharma and perform good Karmas that are in line with the cosmic order (Dharma). People who are fucked in the head behave like Adharmic degenerates.

>>511422923 (OP)
Seems more based than modern Christcuckery.
I can see how it could help someone find peace while trying to survive in this clown hell world.

>>511425105
you niggers eat cow shit, shut the fuck up

>>511425235
Know your place, jew worshiper.

>>511425367
your skin is the same color as the shit you eat lol

>>511424510
Jeets should be the last people to call others wewuzzers.

>>511425105
dao > diarrheama
YA YEET

some of the concepts seem quite interresting, like zen and nirvana (in the theological/spiritual sense, not the common "tee hee scented candles" modern sense). I think borrowing from such things would be beneficial to any rational man, indeed some of it does appear to align with stoicism in some ways which as we all know is extremely based.

>>511425367
>poo sounds intensify

>>511423199
You got this wrong, probably through bad reading comprehension.

It is only impossible for women to become a Sammasambuddha, i.e. one who finds enlightenment by himself in a time where there is no one teaching the way to get there, and who then goes on to teach it to others, establishing a religion (like the Buddha of our time 2500something years ago).

And IIRC it's also impossible for women to become a Paccekabuddha, i.e. one who finds enlightenment by himself in a time where there is no one teaching the way to get there, but he also doesn't go on to teach it to others on a grand scale, because he lacks the skill or the motivation or the circumstances aren't right.

But women can become Arahats (enlightened, and forever finished with this world) if taught correctly and understanding correctly, when there is a religion/teaching system established that they can follow.

And of course women can be reborn as men and vice versa. So a woman could become a Sammasambuddha in the distant future after a (not surgically/chemically but karmically induced) sex change.

>>511423143
Mahayana is fake and gay. Vajrayana, being an offshoot/variant of Mahayana is just extra cringe (but also cool in some way, because cringe things can be cool), but the root of all that cringe fake gayness is the Mahayana.

>>511424510
> the British invented the caste system
> But we follow it like cattle anyway
Really jeet?

>>511424035
Don't know what he meant by that...
But you know those halos they paint around saints heads? Mushrooms.

>>511422923 (OP)
I think that eastern religions like Buddhism and western religions like Christianity are 2 sides of the same coin
Bhuddism is about personal enlightenment and mastering yourself and shit
Christianity is about devoting yourself to God, and obeying His rules

I think the truth is in the middle
Self improve, but dont be a pacifist cuck who sits around all day meditating and being gay and spiritual
Try to be moral and follow God, but don't be a cuck who sits around
listening to somebody's retard takes on the bible and following arbitrary rules that some jew came up with

>>511426691

>>511423241
Study of the dao.

>>511426830
What about the eye-almond-vagina shaped glows?

>>511422923 (OP)
Goa must be Buddhist city state.

>>511426830
Mushrooms literally sit around all day and eat their environment. What do they have to do with the human spirit?

>>511422923 (OP)
Mahayana Buddhism sure, it's pretty based and has a good message/philosophy that requires no religious zeal (Buddha never claimed to be a god)

>>511426686
hmmm wrong, mahayana is fun, theravada is fucking boring as shit, it's true that you could classify vajrayana under mahayana so at least it can be more fun than theravada but it's still cringe, here's a food analogy for our american friends
mahayana = big mac with korean bbq, coca cola and bubble tea, tiramisu and donuts
theravada = dry bread with water
vajrayana = kool-aid

>>511426691
>jews invented it christianity
You see where I'm going with this?

it is true /pol/ religion.

>>511422923 (OP)
Yes it’s absolutely based

How come India is so rich culturally and yet so despised in modernity?

I dont believe in "self-death", death of ego is embracing the selves of others. The interconnected web of the cosmos. Either through enlightenment or mortality.

>>511428234
Childish analogy

1. Theravāda Buddhism = Conservative Christianity (Catholicism/Orthodoxy/Evangelicalism, Southern Baptist) strict, text-focused.

2. Mahāyāna Buddhism = Mainline Protestantism (Lutheran, Anglican, Methodist)

3. Vajrayāna (Tibetan) Buddhism = Eastern Orthodoxy/Mystical Christianity (Greek/Russian Orthodoxy, ritual-heavy, mystical)

>>511430044
Even mortality doesn't provide the answers, not yet anyway.

>>511429822
Because it has fallen into dysgenesis and behavioural sink. Truly a Malthusian hell.

>>511430113
And Navayana?

>>511430113
it should be the opposite, mahayana is catholicism, integrates and adapts to regional customs, culture, traditions, places a big emphasis on celebrating saints/boddhisatva, has extensive mythology, especially when it comes to the afterlife with various popular characters and stories
while theravada is protestantism, saying that church is unneccessary, saints/boddhisatve are unneccessary, the only thing you need is holy scriptures and everything else is just a distraction, englightenment should be between you and jesus/buddha alone, at most you can have pastors/teachers that'll help in guiding you through scriptures but religious leaders are pointless
and vayjrayana is the people's temple, a batshit crazy retarded cult

>>511427133
I study Confucianism myself. Explains the general nature of things...

>>511430406
Idk, I'm philippino catholic. But I think it's under theravada school.

>>511430601
I can understand why would you compare in that way. But Theravada is most traditional sect in same way catholicism is. While the Mahayana developed later and then Vajrayana, as per my knowledge

>>511430797
I don't think confucianism has much of a use outside of a chinese cultural context, it's pretty specific to chinese cultural norms and customs, you can take some moral lessons from it sure but most of it only applies to china, it's important to understand though if you want to understand chinese culture though, daoism is a lot more individualistic so it's a lot easier to apply outside of a chinese context, that said daoism is kind of gnosticism tier meme status, I don't think people nowadays take daosim too seriously, it's more like people just enjoy it because it's funny
>>511431260
in terms of dates sure theravada and catholicism were first, then mahayana and protestantism followed later, but in terms of content and practice mahayana is like catholicism (populist), and theravada is like protestantism (fundamentalist)

>>511424510
blady britisher saars did the x/y/z and ruined my BHARAT.

>>511431481
The Magyarok Táltosok were influenced by Confucian customs via the influence of the Chinese over the early Turks who in turn joined the early Magyar Confederation. Mostly on the concepts of Monotheistic Shamanism and Divinly ordained rule.

>>511431972
*Divinely.

>>511422923 (OP)
Buddhism denies the existence of the self.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertiginous_question

>>511431260
that understanding is a false historical understanding
what we call "mahayana buddhism" today is descended from what was the majority faction coming out of the second buddhist council
what we call "theravada" is a descendant of what was the dissenting faction at the council, but it was a distant descendant of a descendant, not the original buddhists tracing their direct lineage of teachers back to the age of the buddha

westerners with their skewed perspective have a tendency to latch onto theravada as the "real" buddhism because they think it seems more simple and pure but it's actually a protestant reaction to the mainline of buddhism becoming more syncretic and accepting of new doctrines over time

the real split is between the northern transmission of the nikayas or agamas in sanskrit by the Sarvastivadins and the southern transmission in pali in sri lanka by the the tamrashatiya, which would later go on to become theravada

>>511422923 (OP).

I feel like this is a trick question. I worship my Far Right National Socialist (non-groyper) ideology.

>>511422923 (OP)
>Own nothing be happy.
>Rat race.
Both suck. Dare I say: what is the middle way?

>>511432069
denying implies it exists in the first place. the "self", according to Buddhism, is a delusion caused by the ego, and is a major reason why we suffer.

>>511423143
Theravada is the closest to what the buddha actually taught, and even then you have to stick to the original suttas.

>>511422923 (OP)
It's the truth, not a religion.

>>511423241

>>511432069
I think you’re misunderstanding. It isn’t that the self doesn’t exist, it’s that the ego doesn’t exist. There is an immortal self cloaked in flesh, the fleshy ego appears to exist to us but Buddhism tells that’s not true, only the deep internal Self Is real.

>>511426830
>western religions like Christianity
Christianity is not western, dumbass

>>511431972
lmfao I very highly doubt it, the táltos are very much shamans very similar to native american shamans, taking psychedelic substances while beating drums and yelling to enter a trance state where they enter a dream world and talk to spirits on the other side, not to mention that táltos are born as táltos, you don't become one, at birth you have a mark that you are a táltos and it's a sign that the people will face a difficult situation and the táltos will receive a vision through the révülés (trance) where the spirits give a warning on what should be done, also táltos often end up as human sacrifices to avert disasters and such, it is very much against many teachings of confucianism, it is a very primal shamanistic tradition, while confucianism teaches about how to lead by virtue and what duties you have to your family and your society, the concept of being born as a wizard prophet who goes into a trance to talk to the spirits about warnings in the future is exactly shaman superstitions that confucianism wants to correct in china
>>511432418
hmmmm it's lame though, bishamonten and amrita and kanon are cool, simple as

>>511423241
judaism

>>511424510
>There was no "caste" system in India before the British
Then how did you know who was brahmin and who was dalit?

>>511432254
Indeed. Take the real middle path.

>>511422923 (OP)
Buddhism yes.
Buddhist no.
For an approach that identified
' suffering ' & its causes as the cornerstone, fundamental tenet, pith instruction,] (Gaza Genocide) kikes in the KNESSET, kikes in general ]
yet remain eerily silent worldwide, one( me aBuddhist) has to question the legitimacy of it all.

>>511432700
Through your education and training, the same way you know today who is a doctor, teacher, construction worker or a janitor.Every Indian was made to get educated in the local village school (Pathashala), Gurukul, and if intersted, in universities like the Nalanda, Takshashila/Taxila, Vikramshila, Vallabhi, etc. Even all the tens of thousands of temples themselves across India weren't just places of worship but centers of education, art, culture, and economy (often functioning as banks). Brahmin, Kshatriya, Vaishya and Shudra were just broad occupational classes, not hereditary castes.

>>511432700
>trying to argue with people who are lying scammers and eat shit
What's wrong with you buddy?

>>511425105
>Civilized decent people follow Dharma
It's not obvious what the dharma of a human being is other than (un)fortunate circumstances of birth and social conditioning. Dharma reminds me of the Psycho-Pass totalitarian control system of society: an AI analyzes talents and decides what career each person needs to pursue.

>>511422923 (OP)

Its very funny to think of "Final Fantasy" in terms of Buddism, when they literally believe that mortals can ascend to the level of demigod, and that the realm of Demigods is one of the 6 realms.

>>511434163
>when they literally believe that mortals can ascend to the level of demigod,
You can, because it's the truth. Everyone in the world, even Europeans and middle easterners, knew this, before their religions and cultures were destroyed by nihilistic, death worshiping jewish cults.

>>511434163
one never knows where their rebirth will take place...if at all.

>>511434697
hmmm wrong, you just say namu amida butsu a few times and then you can reincarnate in pure land, samsara status: buck broken

>>511432610
To an extent but definitely shares a moral national basis even if different in practice. It's an Asian way of thinking. It's why Confucianism blended with Korean Shamanism to beget Neoconfucianism.

Successors/descendants of Alexander followed Buddhism. Look up Greeko-Buddhism.

>>511434912
To annotate one could say Confucianism is both a critique and an evolution of Shamanism and early North East Asian religion.

>>511435040
The traditon of building big ahh Buddha's statues was started by Greek chads. Before that Buddha's symbols were considered sacred as idol worship is prohibited in their religion.

>>511422923 (OP)
Yeah it's pretty solid in my opinion.
>everything goes around, everything is eternal
>you are given what you deserve through natural laws
>be good to all other life for all life is fundamentally one
>selfishness is the origin of all evil, "I am this vessel, I am not the other vessel, I want this vessel to prosper, I don't care for that vessel for it is not mine" is the mantra of wickedness
>try to avoid suffering (no need to distinguish between suffering yourself and causing suffering because all life is one)
>we are here to learn and we will stay here so long as there are still things left for us to learn, the only way out of this school is with a perfect honours degree
>we need to die so that we can be born again just like we need to sleep so that we can awaken again, a fresh start is needed because you cannot experience everything in one go

>>511435309
The problem with idolatry is spirits especially dark ones requiring energy inhabit idols to feed off a person's energy, happens all the time with Mary statues. Tibetans know this thus are very particular.

>>511432551
I think you're full of shit, illiterate and completely ignorant about the Buddha's teachings. Educate yourself.
https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/mn/mn.038.than.html

>>511435028
china has always been rife with superstitions and folk religions, the 4 chinese schools of thought all aimed to dispel superstitions such as human sacrifices and prophecies, prevalent in táltos traditions too, while confucianism does place an importance on traditions it still makes a clear distinction between morally virtuous traditions and harmful superstitions, then of course táltos faith blended into christianity, saying that jesus was a táltos, and táltos are basically prophets sent by god, obviously this was always very touch and go, and táltos were tried in witch trials where they claimed that they were sent by god so it's not heresy, and there are some fantastical tales from christian times like kampó who could breathe fire and was immune to cannon balls, while fighting against ottoman invaders, but lmao of course what validity can you give to these tales, still it has absolutely 0 to do with confucianism lmao, if anything if it was present in china confucianism would want to get rid of it
>>511435300
not really, chinese scholars wanted a central ideology for china ~2000 years ago and funded 4 main schools of thought, confucianism being one of them, which talks specifically to chinese people about social harmony, hierarchy, virtue, cultivating good traditions and getting rid of harmful superstitions

>>511435468
I believe in the Universal Self, basically God.

>>511422988
You don’t belong here and /pol/ is a Christian board.

>>511435511
Perhaps but there's definately a benevolent side such as selfless duty. Western philosophy is a lot more dogmatic.

>>511435354
>try to avoid suffering
How does it tackle emtional suffering caused unto others, through apparently virtuous actions? If I renounce a life permeated by the expectations of others close of kin, which would cause suffering unto others whom I know not or very little of, in order to pursue a life that I understand to be more virtuous, but that would cause a great deal of suffering unto those closest of kin, how do generalist buddhist views instruct me to choose? Do I need to bring utilitarianism into the equation?

Own nothing and be happy

no, people think they're fine with it because they don't hear much about what is going on in asia and they always get some idolized variant in western media since the hippies but its a troublesome religion that promotes violence like any other

>>511436253
I will look after an Auspicious Slothised Armadillo and we will be happy.

>>511435733
there's a difference between selfless duty and human sacrifice lmao, there's a reason why philosophical religions and ideologies can quickly gain ground against shamanistic faiths, shamans don't explain they just go "trust me bro" about what sort of sacrifices are demanded by spirits, which people with nothing else to rely on find convincing but when they're told that this shit is kinda shady then most of them go yeah it is pretty shady, I prefer the priest that explains stuff to me, over the guy who blacks out after yelling and beating drums then gets up and says that the 7 headed monster wants a goblet of blood

Keep in mind that the source of all spirituality in Asia and the Orient originated from the Indo-Gangetic plains area. Hinduism (ancient Vedic philosophy) was born here, which gave rise to Buddhism and Jainism, which travelled East because of visiting Chinese voyagers and inspired and developed Confucianism, Taoism and Shintoism.
Sikhism arose in the 1500s as a martial offshoot of Hinduism, to protect Hindu women, children and cows from attack by m*slim rapist invader armies from the north-west frontier of India
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>>511423602
>>511423197
>>511422988
>>511424510

>>511436416
Not in the cases of Álmos and Jesus Christ. Even Buddha denied his mortal life for the eternal one.

>>511436782
Not really. Most is steppe, even the Swastika is found among the Kunas of Panama.

>>511436959
Forgot picrel

IDK, if anything I am Folk Religionist.

>>511437130
This was an area of major Aryan settlement, absorbed Dravidians and Mundas.

>>511436311
violence is truth of universe gayboi

>>511436782
fuck off with your we wuzzery kangjeet

>>511435593
Why do christcucks rely on lies and gaslighting to spread their mind cancer?

>>511436859
álmos (probably) died as a human sacrifice lmao, jesus was killed by romans, it's a stretch to call that human sacrifice, that's martyrdom if anything, and there's no difference between "mortal" and "eternal" life in buddhism lmao, everything is always eternal, it's just a matter of whether you're suffering or not through your eternal existence, and also this argument still makes no sense, christians aren't crucifying themselves today so they can be like jesus lmao, that's obviously stupid, dying while spreading the gospel is seen as honorable, but killing a dude to appease jesus is of course silly, same with buddhism, it's not like buddhists practice human sacrifice lmao, and shady shit like going into a trance to enter a dream world, you're trying to make some abstract semantical argument when if that was literally true it would be nonsense, no confucianism is not related to táltos faith, no christians and buddhists don't practice human sacrifice like the táltos did, lmao what are you even on about

>>511422923 (OP)
I appreciate the 8 fold path.

>>511437495
I mean willing sacrifice. Very similar to martyrdom. To offer your life to save and enlighten the lives and destinies of others.

>>511437201
A face only fellow britishers could not hate (love is pushing it)

>>511437484
haven't changed a bit in 2000 years

>>511437810
Ey my mind is best asset to me.

>>511424035
Christianity is a copy from Mithraism, which also takes material from Egypt and Sumer. It didn't matter, for the important thing was the communion with the spiritual dimensions, attained either through trance or by consuming entheogens. Christians back then laced their wine with mushrooms, to enter this state of deep consciousness, just like the greeks did during symposiums.

>>511437700
ah yes and eating cowshit and brushing your teeth are basically the same thing, you're both doing something with your mouth, come on now

Buddhism is perfect for conservatives because it tells you never to fight for yourself and to run into the woods.

>>511435593
>leaf
>the gayest shit you've ever read in your life
nothing to see here

>>511438261
I feel like there is an obvious allegory with the male penis somwhere that I somehow don't get

>>511422988
fpbp
i like buddism btw - but it's a little bit black pill so wicca is more based for me

>>511437201
Khalkha bro is that you?

>>511422923 (OP)
As far as /pol/ is concerned as long as its not islam or judaism and or degenerate than its cool.

>>511438272
Do you know any Táltosok? I remember being born so on account of unusual circumstances of birth as I remember it, I could be considered one. I have many dreams of family and state of country.

>>511438534
>as long as it's not judaism it's cool
so christianity is uncool?

>>511438479
No, not Mongolian, not directly at least.

>>511438367
Only because that's how mushrooms are, though in Native American and pre-Columbian cultures, the connection between mushrooms and penises is made, as mushrooms are considered the male spirit and things as cactus are considered female. That's why only women were allowed to 'hunt' (harvest) the peyote.

>>511438772
Are you Mapuche? I see the Udmurtjos and Mapuche both have same solar symbol.

>>511438564
dude it's like an ancient faith from like a thousand years ago, maybe there are some larpers if you go to kurultaj or something but it's not something I particularly engage with, and the sign of a táltos is a body deformity, usually having 6 fingers on a hand or something like that, when they depict jesus as a táltos they depict him having 6 fingers on one hand

>>511436782
Sikhism is another jewish bullshit religion for the goyim. They literally worship a book. Their guru got the idea for the book after travelling in Persia where he presumably met tribesmen.

It is fucking reddit atheism and turns men into a military order that can be easily co-opted with the right semitic words of power. Thus they fought fellow Indians when the British showed up.

>>511422923 (OP)
Buddhism in the tibetan form is vicious prehistoric crap, absolute rule by lamas who keep their power through elite ritual, human sacrifice, and rape.

Let it burn.

>>511439012
My fingers are normal but I have a cleft on back of head. Even Westerners are impressed by my wisdom.

>>511422923 (OP)
Daoism is above buddhism

>>511439127
I mean I guess anyone can claim that they have some minor body deformity lmao, but like no one is stopping you from buying a shaman drum then yelling while beating it in a smoke filled room until you black out, maybe you'll get some "visions" too kek

>>511422923 (OP)
>Is buddhism /pol/-approved?
No object permanence = no permanent jews = no problems.

>>511422923 (OP)
This place actually taught me that nothing ever happens, so in a way it turned me into a Buddhist.

>>511439340
I once communicated a spirit of Dead Adder. All was well. That being said I keep body pure of mind-altering drugs.

>>511422923 (OP)
Yes

>>511422923 (OP)
>
>win

>>511438984
Not in the slightest, but I'm really interested in pre-Columbian cultures and spirituality.
Regarding the sun symbols, it's kind of common, could be an interpretation of the sun rays or some connection made through eating similar entheogens, just like how different people mention machine elves during the CIA experiments.

>>511439715
Also, in Udmurtia, the mushrooms are quite common, so I would be certain they used them during their shamanic eras

>>511438261
Christianity didn't copy Mithraism in fact it's the other way around. The similarities between Christianity and Mithraism did not exist in Mithraism until after the rise of Christianity.

>>511423241
Shitposting

>>511439902
They do. There is a spirit realm, possibly many.

>>511432675
Would be a funny concept for a story for a hypothetically evil people to adopt the one true religion from a long gone people, and then doing the most to give it a bad name, make it as obscure as possible in order to deliberately provoke its rejection by outsiders, only so that everyone else would irrationally despise it and never become enlightened. What an evil thing to do.

>>511439685
The art of harmonious living.

>>511439930
Well, it could be so, but then, it traced the origin to something before it, solar deities were popular back then. The thing is, it didn't matter to the first followers if Christ or Buddha existed or not, what mattered was the message and communion with the spirit, it was through Eucharist in Christianity and through mantras and meditation with Buddhism, the common root with shamanic rituals and proto-religions. But Christianity did change after it became the state religion, maybe a bit before that even.

I think it's high IQ religion but tragedy is that people don't understand it. Like some retards in thread and most people interprete it as a do nothing pacifist philosophy. >Le do nothing >Le own nothig and it's not true because there have been Buddhist empires and they don't exist without wars. Needless violence is prohibited not violence itself. Most rules are for monks and not laypeople.