Something went very wrong in 2009.

>>511425957 (OP)
The fucking economy tanked in 08, dumbass.

Excessive money printing = fraudulent stock prices = inflation = wages are going up at a faster rate since covid? Make it make sense.

>>511426828
This and it made my life very difficult for the years that followed

>>511425957 (OP)
Late stage capitalism

>>511426885
>wagies went from $11/hour to $16/hour
>slight uptick
Think about how much money people should be making right now.
Insane.

>>511426828
clearly not. Wealth managers seem to have increased their wealth since then by a factor of almost 10x. The economy is and ahs been doing great.

>>511425957 (OP)
evil financers raped the judical system where they do trillion dollar loans at 0% interest and then use swaps to bet against teachers pensions and whatever else. then they used their umbrella of businesses spreading propaganda to help influence their trades

>>511427046
You don't need ~$100/month cell phone bill to have the latest Foxconn City phone.

>>511426992
>%50 tax rate is capitalism
There is no graphite on the roof.

>>511427194
>teachers pensions
OK groomer
I'm supposed to care about NEA union?
Can't be fired until proven drunk on the job 5 times.
Can't be fired until caught selling drugs on campus twice.

>>511427190
He's referring to the last recession

>>511425957 (OP)

You got ZOG'd

>>511427284
Taxation is indeed part of capitalism anon

>>511426992
How do we know what stage of capitalism we are in when capitalism has never ended yet.
By the way we are still in the early stages.

>>511425957 (OP)
>Something went very wrong in 2009.
It started 1971.

>>511425957 (OP)
yes. the '08 collapse should have been the end. if we had let it happen instead of bailout the banks, we'd probably be in a much better place by now.

>>511425957 (OP)
If you're interested, the chart demonstrates that stock price growth is simply inflation and wages are declining with respect to inflation.
True inflation is around 7-8% a year.

>>511426828
zoomers just learning about the housing crash and ben bernanke

>>511427911
so, we are frankly getting poorer every year then?

>>511428012
Are you not invested in the stock market?

>>511428195
even if Im invested in stock, they are simply holding onto true inlfation; my wage is not keeping up to the graphs inflation, hence im getting poorer even if I invest in the stock market.

>>511428299
False. Wages are going up. You could invest more. It's called compound interest.
Think poor. Stay poor.

>>511427190
Rich get richer
Poor get poorer
Yes

>>511428470
>take massive risk to catch up to market makers and professional money managers.

>>511428470
DO tell of the incredible interest you are getting from your investment fund on your contributions to their funds. Im sure it is an outrageously high number that compensates your wage being far bellow the OP stated inflation, faggot.
Maybe stay on topic instead of focusing on your gay little robin hood hobby.

>>511428634
>massive risk
Did you win anything on your scratchers?
Are you literally shaking at the thought of buying stock?
That's pathetic fear mongering.
What multi-millionaire union boss harvests fees from you?

>>511428638
There's the projection and telling us your thoughts.
Did you fall for the Robin Hood app scam?

>>511428989
No, I have a vanguard account set up. But we were talking about you being the rich money maker, dont get distracted, fag.

>>511429139
You change subjects and stretch the debate.
So, let me reciprocate:
Deutscher, did a Turk take your girlie friend?

>>511429298
kek okay mutt. go be a mutt somewhere else.

>>511425957 (OP)
>>511426885
It's going to get fixed if people start stacking physical silver, unironically.

>>511428592
>overbudget by a trillion dollars
>print a trillion dollars
>no longer overbudget
>tfw >>511426992

>>511427412
why are you attacking a fact based on emotion are you a women
you ignored the message. wallstreet does 0% interest loans between the federal goverment and private corporations and theen uses that money to combat the amereican people & hold them hostage until federalgoverment bails them out

>>511427190
>Wealth managers seem to have increased their wealth
Correct: but that is NOT "the economy".

>>511429405
Oh look how fast he refers to the German Master Race.
Heil (You)

>>511429701
Look at you react to "groomer" like every pedo does.

>>511429720
The Master Race Deutscher said "seems".

>>511425957 (OP)
>Gov prints endless money bailing out Wall Street, Banks, and Automotive Industries. Endlessly expands, deficit spends, subsidizes “green energy,” and gives out stimulus and healthcare.
Gee wiz, I wonder what could have caused all this?

>>511426828
It tanked further in 2009.

>>511429863
americans often accuse one another of the crimee they themself committed against God :^) its called guilt
you're retarded

>>511428012
Yes. That is "The System".
Property, stock values are not going up. Workforce wage values are going down.
You can get some of your value out of currency and into -> Stocks, commodities, property etc. i.e. "Investment", and this allows you to mostly stand still.
You also have to switch jobs every approx 3 years to even have a chance at maintaining your income relatively.

>>511426828
yes but the stock market is doing better than ever which is all that matters. the wealth will trickle down eventually

>>511425957 (OP)
The S&P500 generates most of the US government tax revenue. It's driven up almost entirely by cheap foreign labor and artificial inflation.

>>511425957 (OP)
blow off top imminent

>>511428837
Youre being intentionally dense.
If I invest in the market, there are 3 outcomes:

1. I outpace top earners
2. I maintain similar success as the top earners
3. The top earners outpace me

99% of average people are in group 3. To rise up to group 1 or 2 requires significant risk, significant capital, leverage, financial shenanigans, and more.
Even if you're a stock owner - that does not mean you're maintaining parity with the system.

>>511426992
>>511427590
The worst part is these faggots have no alternatives and just want to criticize capitalism.
If they were smart, they would have the same criticism of social systems.
We've seen how just about every Western country resort to migrants because there aren't enough workers or people paying into social programs.
In the past month Spain and Denmark increased their retirement age to 71 and 70, respectively. This is after France increased theirs a number of times. This will continue through the rest of Europe and in Canada.
If those social programs are so sustainable, why do they need more bodies, have to extend retirement, and keep on raising taxes? How is keep the programs alive it any different than "they need the line to go up infinitely"?

>>511426992
Amazing how leftards can be so close to the truth but then just careen off the track. America is a debt fueled empire that has made too many promises and spent too much, and we're also running into resource problems like peak oil. The cycle of civilizations is taking place yet again as it has throughout history.

But the leftist insists it's just an ideology problem. Don't worry about any of that, just implement communism and the growth and prosperity will never stop. No one ever questions the underlying Cult of Progress.

>>511430332
Basically this.
If you are not "beating the market", then you are standing still, at best.
This is however far better position than losing ~7% a year to inflation as most of the population are.

I remember back in 2009 people were absolutely losing their shit about $300 billion TARP gibs to the point where occupy wall street became a thing. The latest $5 TRILLION gibs package from the orange stable genius seemed to slide by with no opposition or protests.
>>511430226
If you have a pattern recognition ability of a person with an IQ over 10 you can clearly see a direct connection between monetary base expansion and SP500.

>>511426992
Late stage Judaism

>>511430378
>no alternatives

Das right!! We just need to capitalism harder! More tax cuts for billionaires!!! More deregulation!!! More defunding the government (except the police and military lol).

THE WEALTH WILL TRICKLE DOWN!!!

Yeah maybe we've been doing the same thing for 40+ years but this time will be different!

>Something went very wrong in 2009
anyone elses parents buy the bottom that year?

>>511425957 (OP)
every bump up of the yellow/red line had to do with the erosion of the pension system and funneling money into stock market via retirement accounts. its a large ponzi scheme and now we truly are in too big to fail mode. a failure of this system means a complete wipeout of peoples retirements which will lead to blood on the streets. much easier to pump the economy with more fake money and involve yourself in this ponzi scheme.

>>511431361
bottom line the only thing that matters is real estate and precious metals. actual tangible assets with real worth. and yes they won't scale as well on inflation vs stocks and crypto but all that shit is absolutely fake and gay. bitcoin is tulipmania waiting to happen

>>511427190
>financial crash means money just vanishes in thin air
i thought germans were supposed to be smart, no?

>>511425957 (OP)
we basically gave the reins to the finance industry oligarchs

>>511430896
So what alternatives are there that are actually different and, as I already pointed out, don't need continuous growth to sustain them?

>>511425957 (OP)
capitalism happened

>>511425957 (OP)
2008.That's when Indians started to arrive in serious numbers and our economy ended. Our economy is a big fake act to support parasites and the already rich.

I like your channel but
>buy an ad nigger

>>511428470
germany is right retard no one is making 7-8% more money every year

>>511425957 (OP)
>print money
>poor and middle class people use the extra money on goods and services
>the money flows to the rich who own the companies that offer the goods and services
>the rich already have enough goods and services. so, the rich use the extra money to buy assets (stocks and real estate), instead of raise wages (because why would they do that?)
>asset prices inflate
>stupid boomers sell their assets to the rich for more money
>wealth gap ensues
Every time we print money the wealth gap widens. It’s very well known at this point.

>>511431827
First we gave them the reigns (Bush II). Then we printed the money (Obama). We went through another round of this with Trump followed by Biden. The right-left cycle just keeps ratcheting jk the inequality. They are working together to serve the rich and turn the US into an indentured servant colony of Israel.

>>511425957 (OP)
The free money housing market that gave mortgages to any heartbeat walking, blew the fuck up. People lost hokes and jobs. Obama gave people 99 weeks of unemployment, tanking things even more. I lost a lot then, and it has taken up until Trump's first presidency to get it all back, only to have that fuck up Biden send us back to the poorhouse.

>>511425957 (OP)
(You) had 17 (seventeen) years, have fun staying poor

>>511425957 (OP)
Obongo was fresh from gay orgies into the White House.
Complete downfall ever since.

>>511425957 (OP)
That's a graph of quantitative easing. FED creating money, inflating the currency, and giving it to the wealthy by buying off their poor investments.

>>511425957 (OP)
desu to billionaires they're all terrified that they're holding worthless bags, an are just trying to pass them around so that they don't get caught holding them when the music stops.

>>511426828
Lol.

>>511425957 (OP)
>*2008
What was Bear Stearns...?

>>511434001
Are you still talking about Barak Obomba? This guy has been talked about for years....we have Texas, we have all of the things and are people still talking about this guy, this creep? That is unbelievable, I can't believe you're talking about Obongo, at a time like this, where we're having some of the greatest success and also tragedy with what happened in Texas. It just seems like a desecration.

>>511427911
>If you're interested, the chart demonstrates that stock price growth is simply inflation and wages are declining with respect to inflation.
>True inflation is around 7-8% a year.
Top commenter here. You rarely see anyone on /pol point this most obvious of truths.

>>511425957 (OP)
ZIRP
fed should never lower rates

>>511435452
He's not wrong.
Why exactly did BTC spike? Who accepts BTC like they would cash or credit?

Uncovered debt pyramid scheme. The productivity and reproduction rate dont cover the liabilities
Two options
Deflation of asset prices and debt to equilibrium, which means practically state failure
OR
Genociding socialists and reducing liabilities

guess what it is going to be

>>511427459
1. no its isn't
2. this wasn't caused by taxation

>>511433583
botched currency reform attempt. The "state" lost the political capital to finish this scam. Crapto is worthless. In practical terms even more worthless than fiat or uncovered pyramid scheme assets like real estate

>>511429298
>>511429754
retarded kike, die.

>>511425957 (OP)
The government bailed out the rich.

>>511425957 (OP)
No shit.

>>511427276
its not about need, its about how productive the average person is and how much they create with their labour, but its all taken to the top under the auspices of "well, you dont need that much." lol fuck you, then you dont need my labour bitch

>>511425957 (OP)
The US has been in bankruptcy since 2007 and has been playing financial games to delay, limit, and evade the effects.

>>511430896
You sound gay and retarded—never a good combo.

>>511425957 (OP)
Bernanke got a Nobel peace prize for this, this thread is antisemitic

>>511427427
Nice flag, (((anon))).
Like we're not done getting zogged.
Like worrying about fiat money going poe shaped is more rational than worrying about our genetics going pie shaped.

>>511437894
what do you think buttcorn was supposed to be?
totally a bottom up "currency" for le digital age and not some retarded attempt by boomers trying to secure their power structure

>>511431906
national socialism
instead of bailing out faceless corporations
and giving them free money
maybe we should boost the average american
and make corporations pay?

>>511426992
There are no !stages" to capitalism.
Capital is land, livestock, physical assets etc.
Fiat currency that can be printed from nothing and to infinity is not capital - in fact its debt

>>511438164
>I add "national" to the socialization of capital risk
>than it isnt socialism anymore
kys communist

>>511427190
numbers of nothings is not wealth. What matters is the quality of the currency youre referring to

>>511438109
this
glowie op to dump on the entire world to save the US
that's basically most of cryptotoo

>>511438214
>examples what YOU consider capital
wrong wrong wrong. Capital is particularly individual. There isnt something even close to "universal" capital. your examples are all worthless in my opinion - I wouldnt exchange anything for your cow or your land in a socialist territory that conducted uncovered asset inflation by debt for 80 years

>>511438109
Whatever it was supposed to be doesn't really matter anymore. It's basically a ponzi scheme at this point. Saylor is going to own 50% of a currency that is completely worthless. If something replaces the US dollar, it's going to need large scale adoption and nobody is signing up to a system that has massively entrenched players. The technology itself is not enough to encourage adoption.

>>511425957 (OP)
sorry Go- bucko, we sucked at our jobs so we need a bonus, also have you considered selling our world famous crack rock? have you considered selling or talking your girlfriend into selling blowjobs to cover the rent? look it's just blowjobs there's nothing going on, look going back to live with maw and paw just isn't an option Oprah told them not to let you come back, Oy! also, maybe we already took the house to finance our crack and blowjobs.

Anyway you're lazy and snot nosed here look at this news article we wrote to your parent's demographic calling you lazy, look we even convinced a half retarded person to cut off their dick and say they prefer living in a broom closet as a spokesperson for your generation. anyway when we talk about the economy for the next 2 decades we'll be sure to talk about "our" economy just get that through your head.

>>511425957 (OP)
we didnt behead anyone during occupy wallstreet, we are in the cucked timeine

>>511425957 (OP)
Yeah, they gave loans to niggers.

>>511425957 (OP)
ZIRP
Welcome to Hell

>>511438436
Buttcorn tokens as other tokens are authentication tokens to pay for state changes on database management systems that nobody uses.
its used pyramid scheme. To be precise as a third degree derivative for uncovered public debt
>first degree treasury bonds and notes
>second degree in crapto verse: "stable coins"
>third degree tokens on databases with no use case or demand

>>511438551
indeed. indeed. don't forget like 30 years of backlog minimum. if they died of old age in Florida dispossess their sons and daughters of property, let them live in Philly.

They halted the natural cycle of markets going into real depressions, because they didn't want to wait for a +10 year recovery and the US losing their position as the world investment hub.
Instead they just started printing as much as they could and now they can't stop.
Every year is going to be far worse than the last one and this continues until the markets are dead along with the currency.
We're witnessing a death of an empire and it's dragging down everyone else in the West with it.

>>511425957 (OP)
that was effectively the 'collapse'
ie. the period the nation become insolvent

>>511425957 (OP)
>Something went very wrong in 2009.

>>511425957 (OP)
You can thank King Nigger for bailing out the (((bankers)))

>>511438687
nothing happened between 1993 and 2025f due to the unholy alliance of socialists - straight out communists that call themselves "political parties" and private sector opportunists as Boomers, literally all of them, that saw a way to socialize their risks and costs onto somebody else by legitimating the communists larping as "democratic parties"

Boomers are deflationary and the risks are uncovered, that unholy alliance is going to be replaced by civil war. everone has an incentive to kill the other, nobody has an incentive to cooperate

>>511427590
Because the easily foreseeable consequences of it are becoming a reality more and more each day.

>>511438778
it wasnt just the US. It was every single "political party" and each member, each "representative", each opportunist, each free rider, each beliver has already consumed all his live.

The mistake after 1945 wont be repeated, the answer to the dis-equilibrium is genocide, reducing liabilities

>>511425957 (OP)
>>511426828
Nigger president.

>>511438356
>Capital is particularly individual.
No its not. Thats the point.

Can you define "money"?

>>511440313
Capital: Something Somebody assumes to have "value" at some point at t+n
value: Something Somebody considers "useful"/"desirable"

By definition value is not universal, so capital can neither be universal
>ib4 consensus or any ohter marxist religious lunacy
still not universal. Just because many people are retarded doesnt make the retardation universal. There is only one universal set and that one is empty

>>511438240
In socialism the state run firms at least have people who are held accountable, as well as the party members, if they fail at their jobs.
Can you name 3 people who were prosecuted for the 2008 crash? Yeah didnt think so.

Not to mention way less financial speculation. Fuck your gay finance

>>511440638
>socialism
>accountability
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, and that from a croat. lmfao
The majority of Nazis, Fascists, Communists got away with their lifes, despite deserving genocide

>>511438892
You have a brain disease, i wish communism was even slightly relevant in the overton window of american politics, or worldwide. The democrats are lib center if anything.
What is communist about private sector opportunists you fucktard?

>>511432979
Without printing it would all have collapsed already, it is what saved the economy during COVID

>>511440883
>lib center
ahahahaha
no - socialism and communism is defined by a centralized administrative body of non-accountable apartchiks that use assumed future productivity and reproduction rate of a territory to distribute costs and risks on to consume now. In easy term, the classic steering of demand and offer of the "economy" by positive as negative regularization creating capital inefficiencies, artificial monopolies and hindering ironically progression while being under the impression that a bunch of naturally corrupt organization are not going to try to increase their power

every "democracy" that has a "party" or parties is communist

>>511427190
10x more millions of dollars and not 1 of them is worth even a dime.

>>511441151
need to let a few companies fail sometimes or else everything will build up and collapse at once

>>511440883
>What is communist about private sector opportunists you fucktard?
creation of artificial monopolies through state intervention is inherently communist. That some "private" profits that has likely connections to the party doesnt make it less communist.

Yes, every bank is essentially a communist business. Their "good" and "service" wouldnt exist without state intervention and regularization creating artificial monopolies

>>511430896
Socialism has the exact same issue capitalism doesn. Line must always go up. You're not benefiting from either system. Under both your quality of life decreases every year, and rich people get richer. Under both systems they need an ever expanding slave class of immigrants to keep the rich from losing everything. Under both systems you're ruled by a pedo jewish cabal.

The only way to win is through violet uprising, and ethnic cleansing.

>>511441438
>capitalism
that word doesnt exist outsie of marxist dogma. It essentially is a curse word by a poor socialist that is unable to socialize his risks and costs against another "rich" socialist who is able to socialize his risks and costs. The former just wishes to be the "capitalist"

>>511437341
>>511438214
muh debt and printing
I love how you faggots never mention ZIRP

>>511440609
Money HAS TO BE:
>Durable
>Transferable
>Divisible
>Intrinsically valuable
>Scarce
>Recognisable
>Fungible

This is the definition set out by Aristotle and has been the case ever since (up to 1971).

Now debt is money, they can just print it to infinity and it will only lose its purchasing power because too many retards dont understand what money is

>>511441572
according to you and a bunch of lunatic religious freaks
your notion is not universal, its in my opinion a display of mental illness and being brainwashed by 150 years of socialist propaganda
>appeal to greek authority
as said religious lunatic believing unironically in universal abstract concepts. Hilariously midwittery

>>511441538
>capitalism
>that word doesnt exist outsie of marxist dogma
It did exist at one point. However jewish banks took control of every nation. There is no free market, only an illusion of one. All currency is centralized and if you try to break out of the global jewish pedo cabal's control they have you assassinated and laugh about it publicly.

>>511441995

See - your understanding is not required.
Because capital is objective

>>511442119
>jewish
the post napoleonic communist take over with banks lobbying monarchic courts and "political parties" to monopolize their services and goods were hardly jewish at the start, mostly anglos
and no, the word "capitalism" doesnt exist outside of marxist dogma. It makes no sense outside of it, an ideology around the individual perception of value at t+n can by definition not be a coherent ideology - and ideology requires axiomatic believes that are considered universal against all better knowledge

>>511442173
No its not. I just offer an extreme close to universal definition that naturally isnt and cant be due to the solipsistic nature of human minds with a focus on shitting on you religious platonic mongoloids literally believing in the realm of ideas as something material and universal, perceivable perfectly by every individual - straight out 300 years of mental illness

>>511442345
>it's not jewish

>>511442688
Jews certainly got back in the game, but the post napoleonic lobbying deep into the 1920s was for a great part done by Anglos to keep the jews out and break their monopolies

>>511442563
gaslighting is not redeemable for any underlying asset

>>511442825
You still assume that what you consider to have value must have universal value because.... ehhhh somebody else said so and you believed it. Could you demonstrate that you are the off spring of genetic slaves even more

>>511442924
>because.... ehhhh somebody else said so
I gave you the definition:
>Durable
>Transferable
>Divisible
>Intrinsically valuable
>Scarce
>Recognisable
>Fungible

This is universally realised to be necessary for anything to be considered money

You will not be able to suggest anything else that will work

Fart ass crap

>>511441424
Crony capitalism is not communism you stupid ape. It is still capitalism.
Communism is about abolishing private property and a wholehearted societal change and reimagining of the economic process via a dictatorship of the proletariat. To end capitals grasp over mankind.
Neither of which is in the interest of the ruling elite today. You are stupid and uneducated if you think thats what they are trying to achieve.
Socialism in Yugoslavia was about empowering workers, and bringing a semblancy of democracy to the workplace. Despite directors being highly entwined with the party they still were the ones held accountable if the firm was underperforming, since they were elected by the workers councils - the actual workers at a firm. Not by some pseudoanonymous shareholders.
Today the CEOs dont answer to the workers they answer to the shareholders.
In Yugoslavia they answered to the workers and to the party.
Who can i get mad at if the firm fails today in capitalism as opposed to in socialism? Its clear.

>>511443164
no its not universal. Some might agree with some of the concepts that require further definition, which makes the definition on its self already shit, other might agree with non. At best you get a fuzzy set of people agreeing and disagreeing - a far cry from "universal". There is only one universal set that is contained in all sets requiring minimal axiomatic believes and is only a paradox without Gödel, the empty set.

You are going to enjoy the further atomization of information production and distribution. You Niggers are not even grasping that this is a paradigmatic shift in knowledge production and distribution that last happened with Guttenberg

>>511426828
Sure, but the good news is shelter is unobtainable!

>>511443436
>Because I'm poor and my business isnt monopolized and subzidized but someboy else is
>its not communism
point stands, "capitalism" is just one socialist cursing against another socialist

>>511443507
yes - everywhere in the world at anytime in history accepted this definition as money. Except for the west since 1971.

Your understanding is not required

>>511443647
I disagree, your set is not universal. You got falsified. I accept you self identifying as a religious lunatic that believes some crap written down by individuals with absolutely no self interest in manipulating suckers like you into a cult

>>511425957 (OP)
The central banks printed a bunch of money and gave it to their friends to buy up the world leaving you with nothing.

They did it again over covid.

They think they can get away with it 3 times by mass importing all Indians and suppressing wage labor even farther. If you wage today you are actually a slave, literally. If you have no inheritance you will forever be a slave. A wage slave. You should kill them but you'll just kill yourself instead.

>>511443820
>The central banks printed
wrong, the treasury emitted copious amount of uncovered debt bought by a bad bank

>>511443567
I believe in the national ownership of the means of production. I believe it to be beneficial for the good of mankind. Because profit is shared amongst the nation, for various social causes determined by the party rather than concentrated in the hands of a private select few.
Capitalism is the belief in free markets and private enterprises, where the surplus value is not redistributed amongst workers, but hoarded by the private owners.
Monopolies exist in both systems therefore everything is communism - this is your logic? Are you deficient in iodine?

>>511443820
>If you wage today you are actually a slave, literally.
I think it actually might be worse than that. Historically, slaves normally would get shelter, and maybe even get to have a family if they where a good slave that worked hard.

The people that own the land and have a bunch of assets making passive income in this system are basically financially invincible, but they still bleed.

If you have nothing today, you'll probably die with nothing. You won't make anything substantial by legal means as an outsider. If I were Mexican I would just stay in Mexico and wage Hell against the cartels slaughtering my community instead of being a coward and a hypocrite.

If I were such a smart Indian, I would stay in India and wrangle up dumb labor to clean up the damn ganges and build a sanitation system.

>>511443808

Youre just gaslighting. Gaslighting is not an argument

>>511444005
yes... and allegedly a certain man named Epstein made some bad trades.

>>511444021
>I believe in the national ownership of the means of production.
>I believe in giving organizations consisting of individuals with a primary self interest control over me
okay slave
>Because profit is shared amongst the nation, for various social causes determined by the party
>Because I believe their is some enlightened religious group that can decide for me
okay slave

I have no issue with you deciding to be a slave, I have an issue with you enabling scammers trying to increase their slave population. And frankly its getting more and more rational to kill the slaves

>>511444052
money is just made up to make people have some agency inside of their slavery? and the masters dont actually work for money but the ability to issue it, is that what you're saying?

>>511444257
As usual, it's all fake & gay.

>>511444135
I offered a definition for the term capital and value with minimal axiomatic requiring mostly based on linguistic first order logic. By second order logic you derive a definition from this for the term "currency" - and no matter if one accepts all your concepts defining the set of "currency" non or a select few doesnt matter if it come to the question about the token of "currency" being universal or particular. By definition and structure its particular

>>511444207
>I believe in democracy at the workplace and worker councils in each company
>i believe in the need for a temporary party consisting of publically liable and responsible individuals to organize the country in the transitional period
As opposed to what? This is the first step on the road to complete social involvement of the masses in its historical course to communism. As evidenced by Lenin
>Because i believe the vanguard party to be a necessary step in between socialism and communism
I dont see the alternative. What is yours?
And this is why you get educated, organized and involved. And not let the "vanguard" party stay the vanguard party forever. Its only purpose is for the nation state to reach autarky and ease co-operation on the international stage. It will not "wither" away, but that is up to us the people.

I understand your pessimism regarding the average individual. They prefer letting someone else do the decisions for them. However im not as weak minded to descend into some retarded version of fascism. I dont even get what your vision of the future is other than genociding people you dont like? Capitalism always devolves into crony capitalism, oligarchs etc..

P.S. Worker self management in Yugoslavia was a very useful experiment. Whatever faults it may have.

>>511445519
I cant take you serious. This reads like by an llm contextualized into a communist religious lunatic

And AI got it
>muah socrates, muah platon
fucking retards

>>511444543

Are you that dumbass poo who lives in Austria? You lost the argument now you are trying to toss out unrelated academic words to bolster your crappy logic.

Your mathematical background, your financial institutions, your ego are not connected to reality.

>>511446278
>because a Billion Indians poo in the street
>its universally true to poo in the street
thats you

>>511445875
I accept your concession, your worldview is based on talking to AI i suppose.
Didnt expect anything less from a fascist.

>>511425957 (OP)
>what is the housing market crash

>>511425957 (OP)
https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/

>>511446772
you are a Xillenial, a mutt when it come to digitalization and living in a atomized information age. In your world things like "Dallas" and the "news" exists. In the real world it only exists among you geezers, a bubble that isnt real and has no future

>>511425957 (OP)
Damn imagine if I just started my career after graduating here in United States… but it always goes back to the 유대인 & 똥쟁이 …

>>511447216
I am 25 years old. And you suffer from some sort of brain disease.
You dream of genociding socialists and communists but you couldnt even finish the manifesto let alone Das Kapital.
Kys follow your leader

>>511448328
marx assumes there needs to be interaction and that something like a shared common reality exists. he was wrong

>>511425957 (OP)
globalization + 1% realizing they could not grow forever.

>>511427869
The reason why it wasn’t the end is that American hegemony (American Empire) would have collapsed with it. America is still battling the same problem today because it’s committed to the hegemony above all else. Don’t expect any economic improvements or reforms.

>>511425957 (OP)
2006 too.

Also male virginity went up 2008 to up.

>>511426828
fpbp
Most of us were most likely too young to understand it but the market crash was real and the rich profited from it while our parents (most) suffered.
I still have fond memories of 2011 as I had a lot of fun back then but were I older and had my own place like now, I'd suffer and I understand that now