The real Church is made out of the temples which are the bodies of the believers, GOD the Almighty is our only Father and JESUS is the good Shepherd, all the others, priests and pastors, are thieves.

Salvation is in Christ alone, so that no man can get in the kingdom of heaven without contact with the Father through true faith in JESUS. If you put your faith in mere man, you will be denied the advice and guidance of GOD.

Focus on Saints and Sages, and the Messiah, if you can't focus directly on God.

>>511436564 (OP)
You can do without attacking the Church.
>Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her.

>>511436564 (OP)
So real christians are the handful of drooling retards on the internet who think we wuz da real infant penis mutilators?
There's less than a 1000 real christians in existence.
Got it.

I was part of both for a short time, you're not missing anything except an episode of the hunger games catching fire.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMfrBaFdQC8

100 people go in, 1 person wins. You tilt at the Jewish roulette wheel and then you walk away empty handed. Will not be teaching the next generation to tolerate Christianity, Judaism, or recognize its rats nest of formicas in the US Government.

Like the Cardassians under the Dominion, we're under an occupation. We're ignoring it for now, but eventually the entire system will have to be completely wrecked since it doesn't recognize anything except more of itself, which is Jewish Shape Shifters.

>>511436773
I'm not attacking the Church but pointing out its true nature, the churches of man are not the body of Christ but rather are standing to enforce false doctrines of demons to deny you the truth of scripture if you only put your faith in them and not in GOD Himself when if you put your faith in GOD and seek HIM in truth then in truth i tell you that the Holy Ghost will teach you all things to make you free in truth.

>>511436564 (OP)
>The real Church is made out of the temples which are the bodies of the believers,
while you're absolutely correct about that point, it does not follow that you can then dismiss the reality of the physical church (by which i mean the visible collection of believers on the earth). We are told to not forsake the gathering together of the brethren. And, while some pastors etc are certainly false teachers, by no means all are. Some are wonderful helpers along the way. ive known a few.
>Salvation is in Christ alone,
yes
>If you put your faith in mere man
well, we dont really, or shouldn't, if by faith you mean anything more than accepting their guidance as it conforms to Scripture.

thank you for your post.

>>511437178
So, you want to kill all church, kill all orphanage, kill all hospitol, kill all charity?
Is that the fruit of your holy spirit?

>>511436564 (OP)
>The real Church is made out of the temples which are the bodies of the believers,
while you're absolutely correct about that point, it does not follow that you can then dismiss the reality of the physical church (by which i mean the visible collection of believers on the earth). We are told to not forsake the gathering together of the brethren. And, while some pastors etc are certainly false teachers, by no means all are. Some are wonderful helpers along the way. ive known a few.
>Salvation is in Christ alone,
yes
>If you put your faith in mere man
well, we dont really, or shouldn't, if by faith you mean anything more than accepting their guidance as it conforms to Scripture.

thank you for your post.

>>511437001
i see regular posts like this, denigrating the idea of being a member in an actual church body. its not likely accidental.

>>511437356
I must stress out though that the physical Church is made of your body and the Holy Ghost connects you to the only suitable leadership which is the Holy Trinity.

Thank you for your based reply.

>>511437178
not all churches anon. some are better or worse than others, and not all differences in teaching are at the essential doctrine level. God has always used other believers to lead and guide and teach each other anon, and we are told to check what they teach us by the Bible.

>>511437479
I said nothing about killing and i assure you that the falsehoods of this world will endure until the final judgement, but i tell you that if your faith is in a priest when it should be in JESUS then you might not pass into the kingdom of heaven.

>>511437178
The ekklesia of Christ is true faithful believers in His name, Jesus the Christ, with many more implications. You can have teachers of scripture and respect those and the elders, the point is that they can not come and invent stuff that is in contradiction with scripture, that is what Sola Scriptura is about. But you are right, the official church world from the Roman whore to "Protestant" zionism ("Protestants" which became a kind of Roman church part two, the image of the beast) to sects like mormonism and JW will all have to fall together with this entire humanist Babylonian statue of human world empires. The kingdom of Christ is not of this Roman world, and every church organization that is registered and aligned with this Roman humanistic world is going to fall with it.

>>511437650
sure, if we want to define things here. the Physical church is found in the collection of all those who have been born again of the Spirit and have received the new regenerate nature. the Visible church is the worldwide collection of church organizations. i believe that true believers can be found in probably all denominations that exist though they may be regenerate despite the group they are a member of rather than because of it and some are sadly alone and a member of none.

I think that Christ has His people everywhere at any one time, but that He is always int he process of bringing them out of false doctrine and groups, and into the true gatherings of His people.

>>511436564 (OP)
Jesus wasn't even a real person, dummy

>pic related

>>511437926
I worship the omnipotent God. I don't care about Heaven. If God won't come down from Heaven, then I will make Heaven on Earth.

>>511437767
>to check what they teach us by the Bible
And to question the spirits if they are of GOD or not.

We share knowledge as brothers but calling ourselves priests or pastors is wrong according to the very words of our LORD in the Holy Gospel.

>>511438290
I do not worship the Bible.

>>511438128
JESUS is fullness of GOD in the flesh.

>>511438396
>JESUS is fullness of GOD in the flesh.
He wasn't even real though

>>511438371
Indeed you should worship GOD alone, howbeit, you will find that in our age finding GOD without the Holy Bible is near impossible and even if you found HIM without the Bible the Holy Spirit of GOD would teach you exactly that.

>>511438639
Teach me about what?

>>511438544
I promise you that you will see and be proven wrong about that.

>>511438290
we should ask the Spirit for guidance and help and protection, for sure. We should do so will carefully checking what we are told by the Scriptures, as the Bereans were praised for in Acts.
the title of priest is probably not Biblical. the title of pastor however seems to check out.

>>511438396
if you dont know, that poster has been posting the exact same post for many years now. if you bother to talking with him, he will sit there for hours and hours denying that Paul ever claimed to believe in a real historical Jesus. He will also eventually get around to telling you that Jesus is an alien and all kinds of other fun things which his guru Richard Carrier blathers on about

Go back as far as you like and see what i mean

https://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/text/jesus%20real%20person%20dummy/

>>511438689
Well, the Gospel was written in the Holy Ghost. GOD can teach you anything HE wishes you to know, anything at all that serves to save your soul.

>>511438855
It does not teach me how to win against a coin flip... Is it?

>>511438698
>I promise you that you will see and be proven wrong about that.
Why don't you prove me wrong right now using your extensive background reading on church history

>>511438752
Oh no, not YOU again

>>511438969
>Why don't you prove me wrong right now using your extensive background reading on church history
Only JESUS can prove that to you, in this life, if HE chose you, or upon the second resurrection and the final judgement.

>>511436564 (OP)
>Let a Masculine incorporeal entity LARPing as The Prime Creator come into you and take you over completely. But wait! Do not only give up all of your personal power to Him, but also become a vector of further corruption and contamination of this world.
>The only true vector!

Lmao. Sounds pretty gay, OP, ngl.

Here is an image of two ladies kissing. Not something you would enjoy, of course, because in your mind sex with women is gay.

>>511439201
>Only JESUS can prove that to you, in this life
Oh right, so when you said "I promise you will be proven wrong" what you meant is "yeah, I can make promises on behalf of The Son of God, because He personally authorised me to do that", right..?

>>511438969
i feel the same say everytime you post your pasta. you dont even bother to type it out differently, for many years. its pretty strange matey.

>>511439308
>i feel the same say everytime you post your pasta
Still haven't found any verses in Paul's letters that mention a historical Jesus, then? It's all so tiresome, mate, you should just have listened to me the first time.

>>511439410
>>511439308
>>511439201

you three are all retarded

>>511439469
>you three are all retarded
Of us three, I'm the only one who doesn't believe in a literal talking snake though

>For I have told you often before, and I say it again with tears in my eyes, that there are many whose conduct shows they are really enemies of the cross of Christ.
>They are headed for destruction. Their god is their appetite, they brag about shameful things, and they think only about this life here on earth.

>>511436773
what did the word church mean in the original Greek?

>>511439410
ive still not found a verse which you wont ignore the obvious meaning of if Carrier tells you so. do you chat with him sometimes? does he know your name?

>>511439642
Should I care about it because?

>>511436564 (OP)
Have you considered attending a church where the clergy is not paid

>>511438969
You would change your mind, no matter how thorough someone proves you wrong. You are deep in the spirit of antichrist. You don't want him to be real, that's your baseline, your antichrist spirit.

God likely gave you up, you will never come to the truth, you will always argue against Christ with your twisted mindset and your smugness, no matter what anyone says.

That too proves the truthfulness of His word btw. He described you people comprehensively, and that's how you act and what you are, as He said, because He is true and you are not.

>>511439533
>I have only accepted 60% of the disease imposed on me by the daemons larping as angels and God.

Good on you, my man. Not even being ironic. Keep questioning.

>>511439823
*would not

>>511439779
nothing wrong with paying pastors. they earn their keep as we all should. in the end, their wages come from the support of the congregation anyway, or they should.

>>511439657
>ive still not found a verse which you wont ignore the obvious meaning of
Mate, that grammar is fucking shameful. Do you want me to school you on basic literacy, once we're finished talking about Christian history?

>>511439823
Take your meds, schizo

>>511439823
the good thing is that Christ is able to save him at any time. it would be all to His glory, given how much time and effort the Carrierbong has put into this. Let us pray for his conversion.

>>511436564 (OP)
Blessed be the name of the Lord God, Jesus Christ.

Proverbs 15
7 The lips of the wise disperse knowledge: but the heart of the foolish doeth not so.

Proverbs 16

7 When a man's ways please the Lord, he maketh even his enemies to be at peace with him.

>>511436564 (OP)
>Here's my personal fan fiction and everyone else is now anathema, thus spoke Pope Anon I
You people are oblivious

>>511439921
sorry sir. please sir, could i have a little more grammar please sir?

>>511439904
Yeah I don't trust that's how it should be done.
The money the church makes should never go to the pockets of those operating the church.
Prevents a good deal of corruption that way. A man ought not to recieve payment of the world for speaking the word of god.

>>511439981
He's correct though.

>>511440225
Based

>>511440225
The pope has no salary.

>>511439779
No. I love companionship but i'd rather trust GOD alone, no one ells can show me the way.

>>511440543
According the papacy you must follow the pope even if he leads you to the lake of fire. Does it still sound right to you, that you should obey a moral man instead of GOD the Almighty?

>>511439981
There you go with your smugness. Go ahead and dig your own eternal grave, you apparently can't do anything but that. Sad, but that's what it is, not everyone will come to Christ, there will be liars and deceivers and murderer and sorcerer and so forth that will be outside of the kingdom of Christ. That is you, and then you people also whine about "ebil God" throwing people in to eternal damnation. It's bizarre, you people chose this again and again, you want to not be with God, and God isn't going to force you to live in His presence.

This life is a cross, and you deny the cross and will therefore not receive the etenral life beyond the cross.

>>511440759
That's according to you. You just hate authority.

>>511440759
If you get drafted to fight and die in war tomorrow. What would you do?

>>511440879
I hate authority that is not divine and thus i sought the consult of GOD, as should you.

>>511440823
>not everyone will come to Christ,
Show me some evience that Jesus was real and I'll come to Christ right now, this very evening, no ifs or buts

>>511441006
Answer >>511440998

>>511440225
built into what you say is the assumption that people wont want to teach lies or do wrong things if they dont get paid. i think that assumption may not be correct.

anyway, its Biblical for teachers of the flock to be supported. how else should a fulltime pastor even live? the one that treads out the grain earns his keep, or whatever the quote actually is.

>>511440604
But God can use any pastor to help lead you anon. isolating yourself is not healthy. i understand the concerns honestly i do (having been in a cult in years past) but a good solid church is really a blessing. ive been so very blessed spiritually and in general by being part of a church. if you want to talk about how to decide where to start looking im happy to.

>>511436564 (OP)
>all the others, priests and pastors, are thieves.

Should have seen it coming when they started selling you indulgences.

>>511436564 (OP)
Translating the bible into English was a mistake. When the bible was only available in ancient Greek or Latin only priests and the educated elite could read it. Priests therefore could control all religious knowledge that was disseminated to the common people.

>>511441053
I was already conscripted by the IDF a long time ago and i finished my service early and was a pain in the behind of my superiors the whole time. They even injected me with nano tech for the first time during my service back in 2004, one of the many horrors i'm going through for trusting people.

But that was all before i came to Christ, if they demand my obedience today they'll find no compliance from my part, they're torturing me with technology to achieve that obedience and to try and kill me spiritually but the LORD has made me strong against their contraptions.

>>511441482
English is a holy language.

>>511441549
No wonder you hate the Church.

>>511441914
I don't hate anybody as the Gospel commands me to love my enemies, howbeit, the churches of man are deceiving you on behalf of the synagogue of Satan.

>>511441549
May you find the peace in Jesus Christ that is absent in this world.

>>511442014
The Church raised me to become the Best.

>>511442090
The church raised you to disbelieve in the truth and to blind you to the reality of GOD.