Ive been told that this the reason I grt no matches on dating sites, just beacuse i post selfies.. I have no normal pics and im not a faggot that takes pics, I omly took those selfies for the dating profile..


Could the crippling loneliness ive been experiencing ever since everyone move to dating sites and I became an incel be just beacuse of the wrong camera angle? Is society trying to push people to be comically shallow? How much worse is this 6 feet 6 figures 6 inches gonna go? They are really going to transitions to 777 soon and not see a pr9blem with that huh? By the year 2050 there will be only 5 males left that any women wants to fuck beacuse everyone else has eyebrows that are uneven by 0.1 mm or something..

>>511445649 (OP)
Normalize anonymity. Your face shouldn't be online to begin with.
If you must use social media your account should be private/family only.
No your workplace isn't your family.

>>511445649 (OP)
if that's you in the pic it's not because of the angle.
it's because you look like a doofus.
a college mistake they made and don't want to have again.

>>511445649 (OP)
Are you retarded?
Women will immediately fuck off if they see a feminine picture like a selfie, take pictures with friends or outdoors somewhere
No selfies

>>511446594
The workplace is ur family if u work white collar. Maybe in manual labor were everyone is spiteful for being poor and want others to suffer then years but educated people dont fuck each other over like that
>>511448953
Really? Why? I cant, the few friend I have would laugh at me if I asked then to take a pic them pose like a faggot

>>511450398
Should be pictures of you drinking or travelling, waterfall, idk bro. Women like the semblance of you having friendship ergo people taking pictures of you with other friends or doing cool shit
They deduce your personality based off your pictures, if it's a bunch of selfies of you indoors or wherever they will think you are boring and lonesome
Don't be stupid, also you must be 18 to post here

>>511451307
Here's the only picture I took from my last trip, I dont take selfies, its a matter of principle and im willing to die alone over it. Assume for the sake of conversation that im good looking, would only selfies still disqualify me?

>>511451585
Yes regardless, unless you are a 10/10 chad, because it comes across as feminine and lonesome if every single picture is a selfie
Especially if there is no context to the selfie and it's some snapchat grade bullshit picture

>>511452107
I think I would rather just die alone than do all that desu

>>511445649 (OP)
If you want to have any success online dating then you need to take it seriously. If you don’t want to put forth the minimum required effort then don’t expect any results, and don’t complain that you’re not getting any either.
You need to be IN SHAPE - that’s 15% body fat or less. And then get professional pictures from a photographer. These two things alone put you ahead of 98% of everyone else on dating apps and likes will pour in. Otherwise, you are just like every other average slob on there

>>511445649 (OP)
it indicates that you are a loser with no friends or social circle. Nothing gives a woman the ick more than that

>>511446594
everyone sees you, tweaker fag

>>511452378
I am in shape and I make very good money at a respectable job and have what I consider a good face. Ill go to the gym 2 hours a day, ill grind and struggle and grow to be the type of man women want. I will move mountains.. But I will never stand there like a faggot and have people take pictures a of me. Taking the selfies in the first place made me want to rope.

>>511452406
What if im so financially well off and gain so much iq points that I had to drop everyone from my past cuz they were losers and am having a hard time finding freinds on my level?

>>511452647
Then don’t complain about the results you’re not getting from the work you’re not putting in. You say getting professional photos is faggotry, but I take those professional photos and have sex with women because of it. So what’s actually gay?

>>511445649 (OP)
Nah you’re ugly af.

>>511452821
Why am I disqualified for having just unchecked box??? Ye im gonna compline, thats like training to be the world best boxer and not let in the boxing arena beacuse u have mustache or something...

>>511452821
Its not about sex. U can be a stright faggot. Acting like ur some pretty flower is faggotry.. its metrosexual bullshit. I dont blame u for resorting to it cuz no sex sucks but I still die on this fucking hill

>>511445649 (OP)
Your pic screams "I AM A LONELY DOOFUS WHO CAN'T PLEASE A WOMAN."

Absolutely none of that makes a woman wet. You need to post THIRST TRAPS my man. Just how women post thirst traps for your male attention, you must learn the things SHE looks for and post thirst traps for her attention.

That means being fit, having friends, and more importantly, having OTHER WOMEN want you. Then post photo proof of that - focusing on being a thirst trap in it.

>>511452974
There are minimum requirements. And your metaphor does not apply. It would be more apt to say, you are a world class trained boxer but did not get your boxing license from the state fighting commission so they do not allow you to fight. You may consider it superfluous, yet you are inexperienced and have no results. So your opinion is not valid. No one is forcing you to do online dating, approach women in person. But if you want to have success with dating apps you need to be in fantastic shape, with clean haircut, and professional photos with good lighting etc. The likes will pour in.

>>511453124
Its not my pic retard, I am fit and well off. Not much freinds though

>>511452699
People who are financially well generally have friends and social circles as you need good people skills to get rich.

>>511452107
Lol socializing and having people take your picture doing "cool stuff" is the most feminine thing imaginable.

>>511453124
so you're saying it's over, basically

>>511445649 (OP)
You’re taking selfies for dating sites because you’re thinking like a man. You’re thinking that women do what you do, and evaluate your physical attractiveness and make a decision based off that. This is not what women do. The top priority for women is your status in the group. So a selfie by yourself, even if you’re good looking? That’s like 1 point. Picture of yourself in a group photo and some attractive girl is hanging all over you? That’s like 10,000 points.

>>511448953
I get matches and laid with selfies, but that's because I have a good face.

The key to getting matches is to take pictures that highlight your jawline and cheekbones and hide any amount of a receding hairline. You want to appear modelesque. You'll want one picture of yourself shirtless.

>>511452647
What type of women do you think you deserve and what do you think women find attractive? Lol.

If you want attractive women, you'll need good skin, a good face, and good hair. You look decently muscular, but you should lower your body fat. You should wear nice clothes.

Look high class and show off that you have good genes and that you're not socially retarded.

>>511454505
This is just an anlge and lighting, i dont need to lower bodyfat, a few percentage of body fat doesn tmake a difference and actually looks better. Im 160 rn and going for 190 at 5'9.. mostly muscle of course. I have a good face but u will have to take my word for it and I have a very full thick head of hair. I do have a buzzcut but ive been getting more look irl since I got it and it looks great cuz I got a good skull and face..

I can get good clothes but like I said, I will never have someone take my picture. I already deleted my account since I didnt want my face on the internet in the first place and felt cringe for taking a selfie in thw first place..
>>511454050
Makes sence, well fuck this shit though cuz the more rich and buff I got the more people started getting spiteful and the more I have to cut people off from my social circle so I dont understand how successful people have large social circles

>>511454505
I think I deserve 8/10s cuz i check all the becoes except being 5'9.. I make 160k as an engineer and gondola be at 220k when I finish my masters in a year.. if that doesn't get u a 8/10 then idk what will

>>511454505
Forgot pic, dont see a reason to lower bodyfat if my ribs are showing..

>>511455119
Since you’re so rich just hire a photography company to take some group photos of you out on the town doing stuff. See how fast you get results. If they ever ask where are your friends? Tell them they were visiting from Europe.

>>511453759
Clearly doesn't work for you anyways because you still smell like shit sukhdeep
Stick to a monitor lizards, at least they can stand the stench when you make the needful

>>511455210
>5'9
ngmi

>>511445649 (OP)
Married men hardly are known for wanting to spend MORE time with their wives.

Ponder this.

>>511450398
>but educated people dont fuck each other over like that
I can tell you've never worked in a fortune 100 company.

>>511455487
That's actually a very good idea, im not that rich though, just well off..

>>511456789
Working at one right now, its great. Its the small companies that are filled with assholes who except u to put in long hours even though they will lay u off first chance they get

>>511445649 (OP)
Women look for and are attracted to different things. Women are the object of desire so they just need to show their pretty faces or bodies. A man with ONLY selfies (especially if they're not flattering) looks like a lonely loser. Not attractive.
>inb4 chad can do it
Yea no shit, if you're hot you're hot and you get away with more. But you're not chad, so why the hell is that even an argument. You can still get laid through the apps IF you're bothering to go down that route. Probably not worth it, at least not anymore, but if you're gonna bother than at least do it right.
The idea is that as you live life NORMALLY you should have some candid photos of you being in social moments, so it's strange that you don't.

>>511457913
>why is that even an argument
Because it’s inherently a double standard. If some men don’t have to pay for your dates then why should I?

>>511445649 (OP)
Nah.
I used a free boost recently.
Got 3 matches within a few hours.
It's a visibility thing.
If they make your experience shitty enough, you may just pay to make it less shitty.
>The point is to not make it enjoyable
Freemium isn't free.
South Park did a whole episode
Anecdotal experience, my visibility is low, or I'm even shadow banned, or some shit.
I pull booth bunnies and strippers without even trying. Not the best quality of woman. Had coworkers sinp for me - hot ones. If you get a mid girl sipping for you,, KEEP THEM A SIMP don't ever sell out.
But yeah, I'm not Chad either, I'm skinny fat with a pot belly and have been for a few years - I still eat like I lift but I don't. Still pulling.
But no such success on apps. Any of them. At all.
Until a free boost on one of them.
Bot sure about my messages either, some you can DM.
Again, shadow ban.
Women can flag you as fake, even though you're not, and then you're flagged forever.
Wish I was Chad though. I'd treat women like shit when they deserve it.
Don't sweat it anon. Don't let a woman's value of you affect you.
https://m.imdb.com/title/tt4093298/

>>511455377
>Forgot pic, dont see a reason to lower bodyfat if my ribs are showing..

Daily Reminder, the most mediocre men of past generations got with literal 10/10's for just having a steady job. None of us deserve this hell of having to hyper-compete and excel for literal 3/10 pigs that have had 10 abortions. There is absolutely no reason to even work a job if you are not guaranteed a virgin, anyone who says otherwise is a cuck

rate my most recent turtle

>>511452647
>grow to the type of man women want
Women don't know what they want
Women change their minds too
Lifting for women is the wrong motivation friend
Go out there and kick ass in life
https://youtube.com/shorts/N6XTf1_mGQU
Be the best You you can be
Sounds gay as fuck
Just don't ask permission to be yourself
Look, when I was in some bad spots after breakups, I reconnected with people who ACTUALLY love me
And we had a great time
I had a great time
Shit, even that girl and I got back together and she wanted to come along and I told her No, you're not invited
Hung out with my homies and homestead as planned
Built a special costume for that party and over 200 people, literally over 200, complimented it, asked for my Instagram, security let me into the costume staff front-end area, things worked out is my point
Go be yourself
Make sure people see your work, too,
if you have a hobby or skill which doesn't get you out much then toot your own horn and get yourself out there
put on a presentation
make a social media series demo sharing your proof of work
Fuck women, man
They shouldn't be your focus
Once they aren't your focus, they will all of a sudden end up in your life
It's weird man
And if you focus on what you're missing it'll make you feel miserable
so don't do that
women are stupid as fuck
make sure you love and respect yourself first
once your cup runneth over, some woman will sniff you out and want to ruin your life
How much attention do you think Chad pays to women?
Women pay him
Don't let women live rent free man
Do your thing

>>511445649 (OP)
Set a timer on the camera and pretend you're with someone.
The selfies are an ick because they indicate you aren't around other people, which means there's probably something wrong you

>>511453294
give a presentation and get photos of you in front of a crowd
a crowd listening and paying attention to you
Women love social hierarchy shit
Even just you on stage with a mic to fake it
But if you can present to a crowd
Make up your own free presentation to get people there
Dress nice
Get photos of it
If people want to talk to you after, maybe even get selfie, bam, women online don't need to know they aren't close friends
>t. like 8 friends but all in different states

i had two selfies in college and got matches like crazy

same strat about 10 years later, out of college, virtually no matches. i think once you're out of college it stops being cute and quirky to not do much and invite women to play streetfighter in your dorm. they want to see me globetrotting and dancing and hanging out with friends but guess what i dont want to do any of that shit and im not going to lie just to get pussy so hermit life for me i guess

>>511445649 (OP)
buddy its all about looks, dating apps only exist for roasties to create their chad harems and viceversa and to get validation from the normies and uglies like you.
Approach girls irl as online you are competing with chad and irl its much easier.
Its all about looks so just take care of your skin,face and hair and you should be fine. Work out and lean out, dont bulk only lean out.

>>511445649 (OP)
>>>/r9k/

>>511460257
it is not only about looks. it is MOSTLY about looks but it also depends on what stage you are in of your life and if your pictures reflect their expectations of that

meaning, if you're out of college, you need to have pictures of you actually doing stuff and being active with people.

>>511453759
that is unfortunately how you get the interest of women these days

>>511453612
I am at my richest right now and I have zero friends apart from work colleagues, I don't even talk to my family anymore due to them being backstabbing snakes.

>>511459665
Spoken like someone who's never been deeply fucking depressed. Once you're so depressed you can barely summon the energy to get up from your bed to take a shit, then all your words mean nothing.

>>511445649 (OP)
half my pics are selfies, including my 1st one

step one be decent looking 7/10+
have a good physique (im dyel by /fit/ standards but visibly athletic and lean)
dress in form fitting clothes that compliment this fit/lean physique

mirror selfies are great when the location / background is nice.
but it can't be your dimly lit dirty bathroom at home.

mine is a workplace (fancy corporate office) mens room, no joke, but it has amazing lighting.
another one in the bathroom of my friends $2milli cottage, so again nice lighting clean background
last selfie is me on the couch with my dog basically on top of me, that pulls in likes as well.

I constantly pull girls out of my league, 50+ dates in the past 2 years. 10% bang rate.
most hate me in person but I clearly know the art of good profile+getting a date lmao

>>511461813
screenshot compilation for credibility sake

>>511461813
You'll get tired of that shit sooner or later, and then you just want to find a sweet girl, but then you realize that only few of them exist, and that they're all taken. Then you get depressed, start eating what you want, gain weight and simply just stop giving a fuck about everything. Your one goal in life is to reproduce, and that's not possible.

>>511445649 (OP)
it's the same concept of wearing a ring to attract woman, they thinking you are well connected with other woman makes them so you as an oppurtunity to climb above them so it helps to take pictures with other adults if you want to attract that kind of interest

I’m gonna tell you a white secret I just found out

Most average looking guys have to win over decent looking women with their personality IRL.

if you’re average and they can only see your picture you’re not gonna get any attention- because they know they can fuck a more attractive guy than you if they’re not worried about being pumped and dumped. Which most women IN HOOKUP APPS are not worried about.

Hook up apps are a losing game for average 7/10 guys. You will only get the opportunity to hook up w/ Fucked up women below 7/10.

>>511462536
I've been tired of it since I started, long term relationship / life partner is my explicit goal since day 1. reality doesn't care. all these women have crazy body counts so you should increase yours until it doesn't bother you anymore (my logic).

rest is projection, my version of depression just makes me a recluse and take breaks from human interaction, not become fat. I hate fat people and will never be fat.

>>511460257
>Approach girls irl
>get screeched at
>get maced
>get recorded
>get arrested
>get jail time
>get nigger cellmate
>finally get sex
Approaching women IRL is a fucking dumbass move.

Selfie are a red flag on dating sites. It indicates low social status. I would avoid selfies at all costs. If you don't understand why this is I can elaborate.

>>511462842
I did that some years ago, but got tired of it. Completely drained me, and left me even more depressed than I was to begin with. Then I got fat, and now I have zero motivation to lose weight.
>do it for yourself
For what purpose?

The more I engage myself with women, the more blackpilled I become. There's no hope for anything. Might as well eat greasy burgers all day till I die from a heart attack or something. Better than suffering and living like a fucking rabbit.

>>511463218
how old are you?
I've been waiting for this to happen, but it hasn't.
I think I'm autistically resilient to adversity / I'm spite driven.

>>511445649 (OP)
Dating apps are gay, get off them, slide into DMs or something, do anything else.

Just to the Philippines and you'll have your pick of any hot girls you want

>>511463573
41. I've just stopped giving a fuck altogether. I just want to see the world burn and people suffer.

The ancients were right, photos steal your soul.

>>511463959
sorry to hear that. being resentful is the worst emotion and one you have to very deliberately avoid I find.

>>511463811
Don't want to breed with them and they aren't that hot

>>511463959
I have a friend in his 30’s that’s destroying his life and mental state by craving any warm hole. He should be wise and do as you do

>>511445649 (OP)
I think you will die lonely. Cling to Jesus Christ. Repent. You must accept you'll die alone and Repent. Praise Our Lord Jesus Christ.

>>511453035
Lol spic browncel seethe

>>511462309
I took this selfie at work to see how much muscle i grew, not for posting online, is this what ti should be doing except my face not burled out?

>>511464213
Yeah, it is what it is. Some days are better than others, but I'm waiting to die. Life doesn't really have any value, and I fail to see how anyone or anything should be able to change that. My entire life has been shit, by far the majority of people I've met in life have been shit, no one ever tried to understand where I come from or who I am. Now, I just don't give a fuck. I'm done, just waiting to die. Don't feel sorry for me. I don't feel sorry for me. I just needed to vent a bit.

>>511455377
Indian bodybuilder build

>>511464425
Hello sar you are brown

>>511464462
Your life is easy mode and you still failed it, faggot

>>511460216
You live with your parents, you're not a hermit

>these retards arguing over fucking selfies

Bro you can pull bitches with a fucking anime pfp

Why is pol full of weird incels? Holy fuck and it seems all underage too. None of you fags old enough to remember AOL and MSN days

>>511464425
left arm pocket. right arm lower, top of camera should be bottom of your chin. forearm definition of arm lifting camera should be super visible in 'good lighting' wear a watch as well. pair light coloured shirt with dark pants. crop the photo better. I'd say that lighting isn't as bright as it could be. blinding white office lighting works best but is hard to find. you can make it work though.

>>511464672
You don't know shit, nigger.

>>511464462
I read your post

>>511464425
No. Standard advice for pictures for men;

No bathroom selfies, ever.
No photos where you look at the camera.
One picture that's just you so they know which one you are.
Otherwise, maximize pictures taken during activities/hobbies or social events. Pictures with male friends where everyone's having a good time are ideal, bare minimum is you're doing something or with someone (like a female friend).
Pics with kids are fine, the bio should say they aren't yours. Women aren't as touchy about that as men are, but still.
If you're fit at least one picture with your shirt off, but a good excuse for it like you're at the pool.

You are trying to advertise that you are attractive, outgoing and in possession of a social circle that she can worm into.

Side note; make sure you are actually outgoing and in possession of a social circle, that helps.

>>511452647
>>511455377
>>511464425
Just post hole, that's all any of us care about.

>>511464425
Kel you're like 5'8

>>511464710
Clearly op is not underage. Do you think op can pull with an anime profile pic of an anime he doesn't watch?

lol how ugly are you guys if you need a professional photographer for a dating app. I was flooded on those things. I quit because the whole thing was disturbing, chatting to like 20 women at the same time. I saw a lot of tits. But no thanks.

>>511465011
>in possession of a social circle that she can
She just wants to line up dicks.

Why the fuck would I allow a cancer like that into my klan?

>>511445649 (OP)
>dating sites
I dunno dude. Dating sites seem stupid.

>>511463066
>Approaching women IRL is a fucking dumbass move.

>be me 1999 15yo
>get bitch gf
>loyal, fucks good, but bitch
>ff 22 years, still together
>unhappy, dont wanna be miserable
>try n fix relationship, always been just us, I actually loved her, also sunk cost fallacy going on a bit
>blames me
>im being manipulated for decades w/o realizing
>I believe it's me
>mental health disaster
>therapy/fix my shit, realize she's just a bitch
>tell her it's her turn to fix her shit
>"I can't get over the past" whatever that means
>says it's over for the millionth time
>done playing games, I file for divorce
>ff a month see attractive girl working at grocery store
>ask for her number
>get her number
We've since had sex. It's not hard. Im talking i had 0 game. Off the field for fuckin 26 years. I was a CHILD last time I was single and she asked me. Why you getting maced?

>>511445649 (OP)
>first problem
You post like a needy bitch. That's by default unattractive.
>dating sites
Your second mistake.
The clue is that the first dating app online was grindr.
You expect this dating paradigm to work for heterosexual relationships, one that was originally invented for the anonymous sex/hotswapping relationship lifestyle of gay men.
Your job is to make your life interesting and successful for yourself. You want to
be satisfied with who you are, and happy to pursue growth for your own purposes.
That's what is attractive to women.
Pursue your relationships IRL.
Work from that.

>>511465011
>Pics with kids are fine, the bio should say they aren't yours. Women aren't as touchy about that as men are, but still.
Bullshit. A big + with the girl I met at the grocery store was that she saw me there with my kids frequently before I started talking to her. Women definitely see that shit as a good thing

so many anons obsessed with having hair. i'm bald but have a very chiselled face and being bald hasn't been a problem whatsoever

>>511465703
>fucks good, but bitch
>ff 22 years, still together
>unhappy, dont wanna be miserable
>try n fix relationship, always been just us, I actually loved her, also sunk cost fallacy going on a bit
>blames me
>im being manipulated for decades w/o realizing
>I believe it's me
>mental health disaster
>therapy/fix my shit, realize she's just a bitch
>tell her it's her turn to fix her shit
>"I can't get over the past" whatever that means
>says it's over for the millionth time
Holy shit that's literally what I went through about 3 months ago. That bitch had me actually believing I'm mentally ill and gaslighting and shit like that. I begged her for weeks to tell me what I did but she never had an answer.

Turns out it was SSRIs. She started taking them without telling me. She went nuts, the police had to remove her from the home, and now she's fucking homeless crackheads and shit. Luckily, I have our daughter but sadly no pussy to fuck. I kinda feel like I deserve one after all that shit.

I guess they're all just ticking time bombs. Never trust a cunt.

>>511451307
>>511452378
>>511452821
>>511453124
>>511454050
All these faggot-ass metrosexual doofuses saying you need friends and a chiseled body to attract women. Brother, I guarantee my autistic ass makes more money than you and pulls more bitches with just selfies of myself and being a decent human being on dates. Stop pushing this jestermaxxing bullshit onto people as if it works.

>>511445649 (OP)
Anon in the social media only the top 5% of men are considered. The ratio of Chads btw is 20%. So 75% of Chads don't count as Chads anymore. It has become so fucking obvious even normies are calling it quits and becoming foreveralones. Those fuckers were so stupid they thought they still stood a chance back when it was 20% Chad ratio still. Keep in mind that 5% study is STILL dropping btw. We haven't even hit rock-bottom yet for what women refuse not to settle for.

The truth is its really REALLY not your problem. It's women's. You can either do your own thing here or travel where whores want foreign cock and go plow and fertilize foreign pussy over there. Keep in mind there is no escaping globohomo and those women are still feminists. They just aren't as stupid and obvious as western feminists...yet.

>>511465777
>dating apps are gay
Trips of truth.

Also, all apps are gay. And if you call programs "apps" you're the gayest faggot of them all.

They're called programs. They're written by programmers. There's no such thing as an app, because there's no such thing as an apper.

>>511453294
>Its not my pic retard, I am fit and well off.
>Not much freinds though
Found the problem.
Get friends, even acquaintances, and learn to be a fun person around.
Don't just be by yourself; learn to be an interesting person and learn to work conversations and be funny and vibe with people, and don't simply force your own agenda.
Eventually you become comfortable speaking to people and to the girl you want and be able to take her without scaring her.

>>511464820
You failed on easy mode life. On real life, the life of 90% of mankind, you would be long dead.
What an abortion of a human being you are, an absolute failure of a man.

>>511445649 (OP)
Thought I recognized this guy

>>511465703
Oh, it was 17 years btw. Not 22.

Also:
>ff a month see attractive girl working at grocery store
>ask for her number
>get her number
>we've since had sex
She gives that number to everybody. Glad you got your groove back and I'm sorry about your AIDS.

>>511466697
Thanks for posting "OP's" hole, I guess.

>>511464425
The way you type is fucking annoying that's why you're an incel

>>511454050
this normal people don't take pictures of themselves they get them from friends or family