>>511996111 (OP)Incels never even get to the point where they are having conversations like this with girls.
All incels are incels for one of two reasons:
1. They never actually try to do the things men need to do go get girls because they have crippling approach anxiety. They never approach women, or hit on them or invite them on dates or escalate things sexually. They just want to sit back and be passive and never take risks and never do anything that could possibly result in a rejection and then try to blame their lack of pussy on 9000 different things that have nothing to do with it.
2. They are some kind of creepy weird shitskin pajeet or chink who is living in a White western country where they do not belong. Those guys do constantly hit on girls and pester them, but it never works because they are so ugly and creepy and smelly and weird.
EVERY incel fits into one of those two categories.