The visa and mastercard thing with games has convinced me there is genuinely a kabal of people and they rn wish to kill gaming so men are more willing to go to war/work for shit pay. Idk if I was just young before and it's always been so obvious and just didn't see it or if they are just mask off dgaf because they feel so safe.

I regognize that gay blowjob.

and what are you even talking about? what did those credit card companies do to people's video games

Post more Ghast sexo

>>512017565 (OP)
>the visa thing
What is this thing? I have not seen anyone actually explain it, just spam from retarded gamers.

More like they are pissed beyond belief that their attempt at MKUltra'ing the modern generation of gamers aka younger demographics with propaganda slop and demonization failed pathetically and in fact redpilled a fuckton of peoples to shit they should never have realized. So they tried to shut it down using a proxy in catimini, but they got fucked over by autistic gamers who track that shit like bloodhounds. And now none of these kike want to take the blame so they all blatantly lie about how there never was any censoring or attempt at forcibg games off steams and other platforms.

There is also a lot of fucking sketchy shit going around this, like how japs politicians tried to find out who was behind this and all the payments processors feign ignorance or knowledge on the matter, like the shittiest attempt at gaslighting ever attempted, its like they think they can just bribe and pretend their way out of it.

>>512018177
how about a QRD, Akshit

>>512018135
Official narrative is that some Ozzie feminist ngo somehow managed to stronghand payment processors into bullying media platforms into removing games from their library, supposedly just slop porn games hardly anyone played, but there was a fuckton of collateral damage and shit doesnt add up because even genres not related to porn or even wuestionsble content got affected, and now that shit has hit the fan neither the ngo nor the payment processors want to take the blame or even admit it happened. It sound sketchy as fuck and there is obviously some third party involved.

>>512018326
If you are too retarded to figure out something that simple, you arent worth being spoonfed. Would take you literally seconds if you had any interest in actually understanding what the fuck it is about.

Pirate everything. You niggers act like children who need their hands held any single second

>>512018487
>there is obviously some third party involved.

almost certainly a government agency. that's the exact same methodology they employed at Twitter and other social media and big tech companies during the Biden admin.

>>512017687
>>512018135
>>512018326
Australian group, Collective Shout (Karen's) pressured visa and mastercard by spam calling/emailing them (like 1000 times?) to stop letting people buy porn/violent games with their cards. Visa/MasterCard got steam to take porn games and some other grotesque games off their store. Gamers pissed because it's just the first step to censor all games, along with the rest of the Internet. Interesting it came about around the same time all these countries are pushing id verification online

>>512017565 (OP)
>so men are more willing to go to war/work for shit pay.

Why? It's a distraction.
Go toil for 8 hours + a 4 hour part time gig for min wage and then go back and live in your shithole apartment. Its alright though! You have Bing-Bing Wahoo! for 1 hour after work!

>>512017565 (OP)
If someone were to take away one of the few things that makes me happy, I would willingly go to war. And my enemy would be the ones who took my minor happiness away.

>>512018669
Whats probably more likely is just using it as a progression of censorship/propaganda control.... as other anons have mentioned here.
If they can deny porn from various websites and video games, the next step is denying "dangerous ideologies".

>>512018604
OK, now we're talking. Found a triple-digit IQ finally.

Clearly VISA/MASTERCARD as payment processors should and must be content-agnostic. This is similar to "publisher" protections granted to other digital platforms.

What immediately stands out is that they mustered resources to pressure the likes of VISA, a huge international company, rather than directing it at the platforms themselves. This is your clue that the goal is much broader, ie to use the payment processors to enforce new social codes. This has the stink of EU regulation all over it so you can surely trace it back to there.

Notably this is basically what the US/EU did with the anti-Russia sanctions and banning them from transacting with SWIFT. That of course was a terrible idea that produced a major use case for alternative financial payment processing that is now being used by most of the non US/EU aligned countries in the world. This is why the USD is in serious trouble and why America's financial position in the world is in rapid decline.

The woman at VISA/MASTERCARD who went along with this is who you need to focus on. This demonstrates deep incompetence at the executive management level and you should pressure them to fire these people.

>>512018846
>This demonstrates deep incompetence at the executive management level
Or they know what's going on and are going along with the plan.

>>512018987
>going along with the plan
the job of the executives is to understand the strategic choices like this. visa/mastercard are enormous and powerful and don't have to go along with any plan imposed on them. doing so is a choice, one that is certain to undermine their core business and risk the entire thing. Imagine making a decision that could/likely will destroy a titan like VISA. That is not a risk you take at the C-suite level in a company of that size.

>>512018846
Exactly. If it was just about the games, they would just go after steam.
It's about total control of people buying anything.

Also for any retard saying they're private companies, no they're not when regulations make them the de facto duopoly and they're listening to n̶go's about what to censor

>>512019207
the point is that the reason they have their strong market position is because they are content-agnostic. they are a pure play service provider which makes them interchangeable, ie they can be inserted into any point-of-payment with minimum friction. that is the core value-add of their main business product. what they are doing here is by definition breaking that, which will destroy their business. Once their business is destroyed they will not have the power to implement these social controls widely enough to be of any value to Globohomo.

objectively this is a stupid decision, the kind only a woman or third-worlder would make.

>>512019297
I hope so

>>512019349
the same thing was done to SWIFT, which is a fair analogue of the size/breadth of something like VISA, only more politically important. if they can manage to screw that up than visa has no chance. this is especially foolish in the digital era of crypto which enables efficient payments that have several killer features VISA cannot offer. I think the angle of attack here is on the corporate mismanagement - shareholders and such are quite sensitive to these arguments. Had VISA told whomever to fuck off they would suffer no business risk. The risk comes entirely from engaging in this activity.

>>512018135
Kikes moved cancel culture from twitter to payment processors to ban LEGAL adult media content. Some fucking kike from jewyork or california will decide what legal media you can or can not interact with depending 100% on their whim. It's illegal. It completely bypasses legal means to deal with questionable shit.
Pic rel, a kike from usa will decide to what legal content japs in japan can or can not fap to.

>>512019886
as i mentioned above this is not a smart thing to do. you can ruin twitter and it's fine but if you ruin VISA you have created a big problem for yourself, by the nature of their business. this action undermines VISA in a very fundamental way.

instead of griping about porn and video games you should be speaking to VISA board of directors and investors. they will be quite concerned to hear that the core business has been put at risk in this way.

>>512019958
Valve should sue Visa for defaming their business and implying there is "illegal" content on their storefront. The criteria they listed includes "non consentual mutilation" so basically every single violent video game ever made falls under this category.

>>512017565 (OP)
Its a desperation move. I've been noticing a LOT of those lately. Even stuff they previously knew to never touch or topics they would avoid like the plague. Its absurd.

>>512020136
that's a good idea. someone like Valve has the lawyer fire power to do that. VISA's board would adivse to settle out of court asap because the PR alone would be a disaster. that's exactly how you get execs who made these decisions fired.

>>512018604
>Collective Shout
Obvious scapegoat, karens have 0 power to push around global corporations, especially abroad

>>512020136
>"non consentual mutilation"
circumcision?

>>512018604
>>512018846
I don't know how the payment processors are involved but I DO know what is going on behind the recent internet censorship. They hit critical mass in the corrupted data output from all botting and shilling. For many years they covered this up despite the fact that ALL their fucking research and plans hinged around this data being legit not worthless corrupted data. In a extreme panic they pushed through internet ID and censoring in a failed attempt to redestinguish legit data from fake data but that won't work since its gonna get botted and shilled to hell again because they cannot actually allow genuine human discourse. Their last 'usable' data sets mind you come from the 00s. The last good data sets they have are from the 90s.

It is cataclysmic for them. So much so that Big Tech, Advertising, and Data industry are no longer capable of keeping it under wraps. As it just proved that ALL of their research, data, and plans are fucking worthless. Not only that it will also nuke the globohomo economy because of how much they pivoted into fake bullshit and what turns out to be a whole lot of worthless corrupted data. They THINK it will give them clean data again...but that is impossible for globohomo.

To help you understand how this sort of thing works and my main point about VISA, here is the break down of payments:

1. Merchant account - company signs up for this to accept money and bank with it
2. Payment processor - company that handles integration to point-of-sale for the company
3. VISA - settler of payments

Step 1 is traditionally where "undesirable" businesses are usually cut out of the loop, which is fine. If you don't want to let pornographers use your bank to sell their smut you don't have to.
2. Payment processor - this has been used frequently in recent years to attack controversial people by having their services canceled. Processors are small and run tight margins and easily swapped out so they are often cowards.
3. VISA - infrastructure. They should have no idea what goes over their network their job is to settle the payments.

If you understand this it makes sense why VISA should not be the place this is done. If you want to restrict CONTENT from generating profits you attack point 1, which is when the content purveyor receives money for their content. If you attack point 2 you are engaging in risky social credit and pressure. If you do point 3 you are breaking your ability to handle payments at all.

It's colossally stupid for VISA/MASTERCARD at step 3 to be involved in this.

>>512020626
the value of "data" has been overstated for about twenty years in terms of its monetary value. it's information and big data provides big information, which is super useful but only theoretically valuable. what that information is showing them is that their ability to monetize the data is much less than they claimed, and also that the public is onto them and their power is illegitimate and hanging by a thread.

>>512020701
That is part of their fake economy bullshit yeah. The biggest problem isn't that its the fact that they USED the data in all their research, plans, reports, and so forth. Now its finally gotten out internally that all that is in fact worthless and they don't actually have a means of getting clean data again. Keep in mind they basically found out their actions for 15 years was hinged entirely on false data projections. So yeah they are in full blown PANIC mode for obvious reasons and desperately lashing out trying to figure out how they can get clean data get(lol never gonna happen).

Their fake economy getting nuked from it is really just the cherry on top compared to the chaos and havoc the above will do to them. btw fun fact this means the whole rise in 'antisemitism' is actually FAR higher than the official stats admit because they were made from fake data. Oops.

>>512018846
>>512019207
And this gentlement, is why you buy solid crypto currencies like btc, monero, xmr.
Eventually the jews willl want full control of everything you're buying. They will want to take your money on your bank account directly to pay for debt or military stuff in israel
that's why monero and the likes are going to x1000 one day. And i don't own any while saying this

>>512017565 (OP)
>there is genuinely a kabal of people and they rn wish to kill gaming
this isn't their first nor their last attempt
https://youtu.be/QT1BD8bP9-E&t=117

>>512021131
the presence of crypto as an alternative payment method makes this action especially egregious. It is extremely easy for a company such as Valve to offer crypto-based payments. Every time a payment is made via crypto VISA loses money and more importantly their universality as an infrastructure provider. The risk would be well-known to the Board and any executive putting this at risk should be out on their ass immediately. And the person who hired them should be worried, too.

>>512021131
Monero until it's replaced by a superior privacy crypto will be worth far more than bitcoin. They already cracked bitcoin btw for those not aware. They have for...10 years now? Its why they were able to finally destroy wikileaks and whack McaFee as their deadman's switches relied upon the bitcoin blockchain. Than someone found a loophole and suddenly a whole LOT of cryptowhales ended up dead because they had copies before they cracked and ruined it.

Other crypto coins that will become extremely valuable are the following: contractual enforcement cryptos and data cryptos. Thus the big three most valuable types of cryptos are privacy, contract, and data cryptos.

>>512017565 (OP)

9/11 , flouride in the water, JFK assination, moon landing being both fake and gay; but also real and happened, the list of apcoylptic events that have woken people up has been as old as time itself. there's always been people who wish to oppress other people and take their freedoms so they can feel important. and there's always been people who yearned for freedom and autonomy. it's just the way things have always been. It's weird when they take away things from children though.

>>512017565 (OP)
>Cant drink outside anymore at night bcuz muh laws
>Cant smoke outside anymore bcuz muh laws
>Cant even jack off properly on twitter anymore bcuz muh laws
>Cant even fucking buy vidya bcuz muh laws
They want you in front of an excel tab 18 hours a day while listening to a 2 minute royalty free ukelele loop on youtube (you'd have to pay the wagie premium version for the small price of 29.99$ a month to unlock more royalty free music) and hooked up on SSRI's. This is our cyberpunk dystopian society but instead of being some cool blade runner shit you get the Human Resources kind of dystopia, the one that that paints sunshine rainbows yellows and blues over a landscape of total degeneracy and selective and coordinated violence, and you're supposed to accept this as the new norm.

>>512018846
>This demonstrates deep incompetence at the executive management level and you should pressure them to fire these people.
I don't think that focusing on punishing the scapegoat will achieve anything, especially that it's literally impossible to enforce this. If this was political in nature, even if they fire some scapegoat that person will quietly land a new position somewhere else. Absolutely nothing will be achieved apart from signaling that it's ok to do so because the person that pulls the trigger will get a safe landing in a case when this generates some outrage and pushback.

Most likely this is political in nature because nobody climbs the global management corporate ladder by being a clueless bimbo that puts the company brand at risk just to virtue signal to some small group of 60 year old karens. This could be the case, but it's very unlikely.

It's not a coincidence that this happens as porn bans are pushed further. The goal seems to be to vastly restrict access to all porn media, be it video, games or printed comics. Just as US republicans have been shouting for months that it's what they're going to do to try to combat:
>rates of inceldom
>rates of NEETs
>low birthrates
>degeneracy
>rates of lonely 30/40 year old left over females that no man wants because they are too busy with porn
>crisis in military recruitment

>>512021849
>the scapegoat
a piddling payment processor is a scapegoat. the C-suite at VISA are not scapegoats. They are bigger than most governments.

>>512018846
>>512018846
Karens probably tried that first and lost and went for a different link in the chain. If steam approved the games why the fuck would they take them down when they have a financial incentive? Women hating men and video games is a tale as old as time.
Although I wouldn't be shocked at all to find out the same collective of women that try to get video games banned are interested in ruining the internet as well. basically anything that takes away attention from women; women mostly the unattractive ones will move to make it illegal or to make it socially unacceptable. unless of course there's an oppertunity for females to goon to the content hence why sports is popular amongst the dumb. because it's acceptable to the female that their men watch other men and the women watch other men with them. subconscious cucking. Video games are too abstract for the female brain to goon to. they can't fuck a pixel character. while men are absolutely capable of eye fucking a 3d female character. this makes women jealous. Even if it's an EU thing it's really a men vs women thing it's just that the EU is the center stage for faggots and karens.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1udjd2Aq3E&ab_channel=FutureMajority

Republicans:
>let's ban all porn! video porn, porn games and porn comics! death to all porn! young men are supposed to earn shekels for goldstein, not sit at home masturbating!
Then suddenly global porn restrictions happen, and miraculously hundreds of porn games get canceled.
The narrative:
>a 60 year old karen did this, she (not the republicans) forced Visa and Mastercard to do this

It's just insulting really.

>>512020701
The only clean data is from when white men ruled the world and the internet. When Encyclopedia's were written and philosophical novels, and prestigious journals. Now the internet is just nigs on world star , jeets spamming crypto faggotry, chinks spinning disinfo, and whites complaining about it all indirectly on facebook. Pretty soon we're going to learn that it's racist to ask people to wash their hands because Indians don't wash their hands and Indians make up 30% of the entire internet

>>512021908
If this was a political move, then yeah a C-exec can be a scapegoat.

>>512021967
it reeks of a slightly-clever woman "Why not go after VISA and cut them off at the source!" The idea is they won't have to go after all kinds of merchant accounts for smut purveyors and can do less work overall. They fail utterly to understand the core business so they make the strategic mistake of leveraging the /infrastructure/ for the payments. As if no one else in the ruling factions could have thought of this before lmao.

The people in charge who built the Empire were much smarter than the minions they have running it now. That's why it is falling apart. They built systems like VISA/MASTERCARD for a reason and would have never undermined them this way, knowing that the value of having the universal payment infrastructure far outweighs any convenience or benefit of using it to enforce social behavior.

>>512021791
Well maybe if they would stop hiring fucking shit tier jeets to write the excel spreadsheet code we'd actually want to use it? They should make Microsoft Office for Whites by Whites.

>>512022141
don't confuse "data" and "knowledge"

>>512022190
Tale as old as time. Genius comes by and invents something checks up on it periodically to make sure it's still working great. one day the genius stops showing up alltogether and things slowly fall apart. The next financial genius's are doing crypto shit because they got tired of asking for permission and getting denied. but a lot of the retards are also doing crypto shit and giving it a bad name. It's weird when both retards and genius are doing the same thing.

>>512022190
I mean you're right though. The Queen of the Karens definitely resides in the EU and works high up in the UN. Just because I've identified the group don't get stuck on that and focus on the leadership. It's a mountain of karens but they all work in concert up hill

>>512022356
my point is that if you want to solve the problem the best place to go after is the board at VISA. They have strong incentive to agree with you and most likely are not aware of the policy and therefore the risk it introduced. Make the top people (board, investors, etc) at VISA aware that this has gone on (using visa to leverage what sort of payments are allowed). They will immediately understand the risk and tell the idiots who work there to cut it out. If I were on the Board at VISA and heard about this I'd shit my pants because this is a five alarm fucking fire in the current environment.

>>512017565 (OP)
>there is genuinely a kabal of people
Nothing new
>they rn wish to kill gaming
Not gaming, per se. Not even pornographic or violent games. UNCONTROLLED games. Many of those porn games getting shadowbanned on itch, for example, are highly political. Imagine /pol/ condensed into witty onliners, inbetween comedy and porn. Corrupt governments, rabid leftists and feminsists, happy merchants, blacks being black etc. This stuff redpills people. BTW, I'd suggest reading / playing "Rightful Ownership", which is still up on itch, despite the dev disappearing after alleged gangstalking several months ago.

>so men are more willing to go to war/work for shit pay
If that's the goal, they won't remove all games. AAA titles, where the content is controlled, are going to stay freely available. Same with the centralized porn you can fin on the big sites. Panem et circenses.
They just don't want you to think for yourself, so political stuff like for ex. Harem Hotel is going to get pulled. Probably also everything that depicts a healthy relationship with an attractive, intelligent woman - gotta have more stories where the male protag falls in love with a blue-haired whale, gets cucked, and eventually settles into an open relationship, right?

>>512022118
>>a 60 year old karen did this, she (not the republicans) forced Visa and Mastercard to do this
except the organization responsible is specifically a liberal feminist organization.

>>512022870
The persons they got in touch with at VISA were not the top people, they were some mid-upper management who had the power to do this at their level. People higher up are likely unaware. Surely the people really in charge did not approve it because they know it's stupid. Make them aware of what their underlings have done.

>>512022533
>They will immediately understand the risk and tell the idiots who work there to cut it out. If I were on the Board at VISA and heard about this I'd shit my pants because this is a five alarm fucking fire in the current environment.
I doubt it. Nothing ever happens. What are you going to do, cancel VISA? Look at how they've been handling it. They know that even if they're in the wrong, the government has their back. And nobody, I mean nobody, is going to stand up for video games.

>>512023196
You are clearly unqualified to be a high-end executive at a major business. Instead of thinking you are, how about listen. This is not about "the government having their back." I explained clearly in multiple posts why this is a fundamental business problem.

>>512023323
>here's why you're wrong with heckin facts and logic.
No. What will actually happen, as time has proven, is that nothing will happen. The games will stay removed, mastercard will hand wave this away, people will become fatigued and distracted and forget, and this will be another chip on the rock that is ever eroding away called "your rights." You don't even need to be qualified as a burger king toilet cleaner to see this. Visa is a trillion dollar company. They are effectively untouchable.

>>512018846
>should and must be content-agnostic
nigga fuck you, you ain't telling us what to think, maybe some zoomer retards would agree with you

>>512023681
more likely is that VISA will start losing universality. think of how if you stand on the sand at the beach when the wave goes out. when the water rushes back to the ocean beneath your feet it starts pulling a the grains one by one at an increasing pace. very quickly with only a single wave and an inch or two of water you can find yourself standing in a hole. that's the effect to VISA. They didn't get to where they are by being unaware of these effects. Made aware, the top-level management will correct the issue. If they do not, they're done, and much more quickly than you expect.

>>512023774
it's not about what to think it's about physics basically. the VISA business cannot operate otherwise. their entire product is being a frictionless, universally reliable settler of payments. changing that even slightly breaks their business.

>>512017565 (OP)
>a kabal
Oy vey, what did you mean by this?

>>512023777
>more likely is that VISA will start losing universality
>Made aware, the top-level management will correct the issue. If they do not, they're done, and much more quickly than you expect.
In a rational world this would be the case, but we don't live in a rational world, we live in a fake world with fake actors, a fake economy, and fake laws. You can't just apply game theory economics anymore and expect a normal result. My prediction is that this is far beyond just some karens crying. Payment processors, are now just another staging area for cultural warfare and social engineering. I expect mastercard to follow suit and to double down on how this is the new normal. They'll ask people to adjust their expectations, and the media will side with the credit card companies and make all the lying claims they usually do. They've set it up so they can easily walk the changes back as a "misunderstanding" at any time, but they won't, because it's not, it's deliberate action by social engineers at bilderberg and the WEF. The "Karens" are just a scapegoat.

>>512023812
They have effectively a duopoly, it doesn't matter. The new rules will be: either censor yourself if you want access to our credit networks, or fuck off and kick rocks, go ask Gabe if he takes cash.

>>512022533
Go one level above them. Go directly to congress and ask them to write laws that allow cryptocurrency exchanges for any legally purchasable item that the big banks refuse to transact in. Make the banks feel as if they could lose market share to cypto bros while also feeling legally threatened on their monopoly due to congressional rule change. The board are a bunch of old farts that could give a rats ass about the day to day situation. Unless you'd be aiming for the head (CEO) of the companies that's the only time they would care. If the gamers united and bought shares in Visa they could legally hold referundums and make it quite a lot of stink in a powerful way. All shareholders are entitled to shareholder meetings which means you'd get access to CEO and board of directors and you could lobby them with your fuckery.

>>512024266
>effectively a duopoly
yes and I'm explaining why they have it and how it is maintained. you lose it if you break that.

>>512024944
These companies do not exist in the free market. The government will ensure that such a vacuum will never be created. Also, the goycattle will never stop using their visacards, the vast majority of people don't understand what's happening and why. Targetting coomer video games ensures they can test their power, create a precedent, and not face too severe of a pushback. They've already calculated that currently all they have to deal with are some upset nerds.

>>512022533
>>512024518
>Go directly to congress and ask them to write laws that allow cryptocurrency exchanges for any legally purchasable item that the big banks refuse to transact in.
They'll never do this. What's in it for them?
I still think the best bet is hope Valve pushes back hard against them. Itch is smaller so they probably can't but financially, Valve may be in a position to. It depends if they feel it's worth it or not. Probably not because these games are nothing in terms of revenue, but it does affect their image as a secure and stable marketplace. If people feel like their games may dissppear and user sentiment sours, that does affect their bottom line and they have a case against Visa. I know I sound like a doomer, but right now Valve holds the cards. They have the money to bring a court case against Visa that would set a precedent to prevent something like this from happening again. Mailing angry letters to VISA and calling congress on them probably won't yield anything other than meaningless statements from their PR people