>>512037380 (OP)
You want to know what really wiped out Ford's profit?
Pricing trucks at $110,000.

Anyone who knows anything about automobiles knows this crash was coming before Trump was even elected.

>>512037380 (OP)
Ford, a proud American brand they put most of their plants in Mexico

>>512037469
lol where exactly was the money supposed to come from anon?

that's the price of freedom

>>512037469
ermmmm anon
if you force them to build inside the US exclusively you pay premium american prices for trucks

>>512037598
Nah they can just use TFWs to offset the cost of employment.

>>512037380 (OP)
Hey if the money goes back to the people, at the expense of giga conglomerates, why the fuck not? Good on Trump.

>>512037380 (OP)
The math doesn't add up chief.

>>512037380 (OP)
Damn, sucks to suck.

>>512037704
all that money goes to israel bud

>>512037539
Middle and lower income buyers, who've traditionally been Ford's customer base. It's only in the past decade they've started jam-packing all their vehicles with overpriced electronics no one wants, while also slapping premium pricing on every new vehicle.

The net result is lots full of cars and trucks no one wants because they're priced at luxury vehicle levels. And rich people aren't going to buy a truck. It's stupidity and hubris on full display, and they have no one to blame but themselves.

I am reminded of Toyota's $10,000 no frills truck they're now selling which American car manufacturers LOBBIED to have banned.

>>512037380 (OP)
o no how will they get year over year record profits now

>>512037380 (OP)
>Make corporations pay more taxes!
>Noooo not like that

>>512037380 (OP)
That or their cranked up their prices years before the tariffs and no one is buying their vehicles any more. They have massive backlogs sitting on their lots that were built built without any tariff.

Why is OP always such a retarded power faggot?

>>512037380 (OP)
Maybe should have conquered China a long time ago.
Maybe never build China up in the first place

>>512037539
Crazy how leftists are openly advocating for maximizing corporate profits and slave labor. Occupy really did a number on them

>>512037926
>Why is OP always such a retarded power faggot?
Because he's a gayper jew and he's trying to come up with anything to countersignal trump.

>>512037469
Based

>>512037469
Yup. Want to pay people low wages, ok, your product needs to reflect that. Want to sell it high priced, ok but wages need to go up. Even Henry Ford understood this.

>want more manufacturing
>tax raw materials at 50%+
>tax foreign manufactured cars at 15%
Who could have predicted this

>>512037380 (OP)
Oh no my heckin investorinos

>>512037380 (OP)
I sold my F shares and plowed them to Ass-Tits. The volume and price action on F was so ass I made like $2 in July kek.

Uhm, maybe just build that parts that are currentlyy imported in the us too then instead of merely screwing those parts together locally. How bout dat
>oh no, More local jobs, how terrible

>>512037380 (OP)
>muh tarrifs
Yeah I'm sure it had nothing to do with the fact they're trying to charge 120k for "work trucks" that are rusting out on the lots because the quality is so piss poor.

>>512038173
>erm, but how does a recession affect me though?
Your mom will get laid off and your stupid lazy nigger ass will be forced to wage or live on the streets

>>512037380 (OP)
Thanks Dodge

Ford needs to close their plants in Canada, simple as. Then they wont pay tariffs. And Canadian car prices will go up 30%.

>MeidasTouch

These niggers are just like 'media matters' left wing propaganda. Any claim they make should be investigated because they're lying. They're desperate to hurt Trump with anything, and will use any data point to craft a anti-trump angle.

>>512037469
This. Anyone pretending that economic woes are only now starting because of Trump are retards. We saw the gamestop saga happen. We saw the Silicon Valley Bank thing happen.. ya'll remember that right? Right?

SVB and several other banks were bailed out... and they showed that banks are insolvent. They still are. Our entire financial system is fucked.

>ford

Do you retards even understand what the automobile industry looks like in the US? I personally think that the entire economy is basically like the fabled chinese ghost cities. We have car dealerships up and down every major interstate.... most of the inventory sits. People don't buy cars like they do coffee. You don't need a new car every day. And most people don't buy a new car every year. And yet they make new cars. And they sit.

And they sit... and probably provide banks w\ tons of capital to lend, and then they likely borrow money against the "value" of their inventory which mostly sits.

But yeah, meidas touch are retards, and nobody should take any claim they make seriously. I would doubt any of this is due to tarriffs and would remind people of the bloodbath hoax where Biden admin took Trump's advice to tarriff chinese cars.

Propagandists should be in prison.

>>512037380 (OP)
I feel bad for them, I really do.

>>512038144
>tax raw materials at 50%+
Every raw material in a vehicle can be sourced in the U.S.
>>512038144
>tax foreign manufactured cars at 15%
>"Making foreign-made cars more expensive means less domestic manufacturing.
You are a retard. Slash your retarded throat.

>>512038299
We're definitely at peak truck. I think the last models to look normal were the 2018-era GMs, even those were oversized. Now you have these tiny soccer moms riding your ass in gigantic Suburbans and Yukons kek. They're comically large and appealing to a very specific demo that values "size" in everything they buy.

>>512038357
based dodge brothers noticer.

You see this:

The new Ford distribution centre in Casselman is slated to be complete this spring, officials say.

The parts warehouse was announced in September 2021 and construction began in February 2022. The $100-million facility is being developed by Bertone Development Corp. of Saint-Laurent, Que. It is expected to open in the spring of 2023.

Situated south of Hwy. 417 close to the interchange with St. Albert Road and Route 700, the warehouse is expected to speed delivery time to dealers.

Get rid of it.

>>512038437
>memeflag
>is retarded
You gonna open a new aluminum mine and foundry in 3 months?
Where are you planning on getting the equipment from?

>>512037380 (OP)
HA HA, and might I add a third HA?

>>512038599
Its Fords own fault for not leaving your country. They will leave now. I hope you like riding a bike.

>>512037380 (OP)
Billionaires… le good?

I wonder how Casselman and the surrounding area including Ottawa just west of it will be impacted by the closure of a mega-parts warehouse since the parts have to go to the US and be sold to Canadians now not the other way around. Youre going to pay the tariffs on the parts for your broken 20 year old car, because the new cars are made in the US and have a 50% punitive Canadian revenge tariff on them.

>>512038639
No one withh 2 braincells to rub together buys a ford.
Honda and Toyota rule the car and compacts sub compacts small suv large suv and cross over markets
The only thin of value Ford sells is trucks and even that is waning.

>>512037814
Lmao Ford does this like clockwork
>Gas prices low
>Sell big expensive cars
>Save money axing their middle class consumer vehicle
>Gas prices go high
>Dust off the prints on the Ford Fiesta
>Lose money on it because QC is nonexistent for 2 years and they need to price them to sell
>Finally sell a quality mid range car that has a good reputation, is affordable and has probably paid off the cost of retooling production
>Gas prices go down…

Canadians are so stupid they would rather not drop their 300% dairy tariffs, lose the manufacturing - AND pay their own revenge tariffs on US car products afterwards.

Youre going for a double loss. You want no manufacturing, and to pay tariffs. Stupid people I swear, the lot of them.

>>512037469
lets price our shit lower THAT will give us more money, GENIUS

>>512038784
Yea I bet youd much rather be in a Nissan, Hyundai, Kia, or Mazda.

>>512037380 (OP)
>Ford reported 1.8B in income last year

Gee, I wonder how much of that was the government subsidizing their EV purchases? You know, that thing the fucking Biden administration was throwing money at to make happen?

>>512038847
Sorry chud we have a brand new Honda.
You know when reliability and price are paramount Honda has got your back.

>>512038639
It's not about country you retarded memeflag jew, it's about Ford producing utter fucking garbage while demanding luxury car prices for slop.

Imagine being so dumb you get protectionist tariffed as a punishment for your original tariffs, on a big dog economic power.. and completely lacking understanding of the reason for tariffs or how they work, you apply your own tariffs - as a tiny economic power nobody has to even deal with.

Heres the difference, nobody is able to not operate in the US market, its an automatic loss. Nobody has to operate in the Canadian market, its 40 million people and only 15 of them actually work.

>>512038929
Sorry, you let too many shitskins in. Car prices got brownflated, maybe take that corporate carbon tax off retard.

>>512038437
15% is less than the minimum fed tax rate which is at 25%
Trump is still cucking

>>512038847
At least then he wouldn't be buying a rusty turd for BMW prices you dumb jewish cunt.

>>512038639
>jew thinks ford can go anywhere

>>512038927
If you were smart youd drive a 22 year old acura with a stick.

>>512037469
Not to mention they fucking fail… just ditched a ford because I was told I needed a new transmission at less than 60k miles. Bought Japanese and will never look back. Fuck JewSA

>>512038803
I still can't get over their board hiring an office furniture manufacturer CEO to lead the "turnaround" and then brought in Farley (again) to "fix" it kek. He is more focused on racing in the 'Stang series.

Ford sold me a 2003 Mustang Cobra that went 4k miles and blew up. They knew the pistons 6,7,8 all had a cooling issue, but the denied my warranty. I could care less if they ever make another dime and i hope for some1 to go check out the 33rd floor at Ford HQ daily. Every Ford executive and Managre that gets cancer is a win in my book and since I do medicine where u live I pass on the savings to u. Take care faggots careful who u fuck over it may of already cost you or a loved one thier dignity, life, and a pain free ending.

>>512039008
I live in the rust belt there are no 22 year old cars.
Boomers who can't drive killed thm all with salt.

>>512037814
>while also slapping premium pricing on every new vehicle.
The reason Fords are so expensive and so big is to get around the Biden/Obama emissions regulations. Truck emissions were mandated to be capped at a certain amount of pollution based on the weight of the car, so Ford figured that they could get away with just keeping their engines the same as they were before and not have to engineer them to be less pollutant, if they just make their trucks bigger.

Which is why their truck line is so fucking ridiculous. The problem is, no one WANTS to drive a monster truck and no one wants to PAY for one either.

>>512038981
Dude your country is like 40% white and 3/4ths of that is boomers, shut the fuck up memeflag jew.

>>512038991
Hey Im not the one who imported 20 million shitskins on top of 21 million Whites. You cant expect White country prices anymore, you live in a third world communist shithole with a command economy, seized means of production, quotas etc. You ever heard of a Crown Corporation there sport, protip: its government owned. Seized means.

>>512039058
The trend I see around here (Ohio) is dudes putting
>EMERGENCY RESPONSE VEHICLE
on the back of their F-250s kek, seems like a LARP because they are otherwise not outfitted with any S&R equipment.

All lies
they are subsidized by feds and they are mad that instead of there shareholders making 10s of millions its like 8 million. poor jews

>>512037704
That money goes back into the hands of billionaires

>>512037380 (OP)
it is not the tariffs
> with the Ford Mustang being the only car model produced since 2021 due to shifting consumer demand towards SUVs and trucks
only passenger car they make smaller than an suv is a NOTHING
they have fucked themselves

>>512039104
>Hey Im not the one who imported 20 million shitskins
jew lies, sky is blue, more news at 12.

>>512039056
No there are you just need to actually spend 6 months finding the right one. Alternately try a Crown Victoria, Gran Marquis, or Town Car. All panther platform, all go to a million. If you have luxurious amounts of money, consider a Marauder. Theyre about 25,000$, far cheaper than a Hyundai Elantra.

>>512039104
Yeah, you're the ones who imported 180 million shitskins instead, you stupid fucking cunt.

Now show us your real flag you fucking pussy. Show me that blue star and long nose you fucking fag

>>512039040
Any story on this I'd love to read it.

>>512037469
Let's keep making the parts more expensive with tariffs. I'm sure that'll fix it. Huurrr durrr

>>512039161
That I don't know about. All I do know is that Ford thinks making their gigantic gas-chugging 12-foot-tall monster of a truck their literal mid-line standard offering is a good idea and I have no clue why that is.

Inflation is up, people want value, they want the best car at the cheapest price. If you're not selling that, then you're not fucking servicing the market.

>>512037469
yeah the auto industry has been rotting for decades
car companies would rather go bankrupt than make a new tablet-free car that retails under 15k

>>512039222
I'm a fucking tech.
Those cars are all gone.
Ask me how I know.

>>512039222
>>512039056
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFxI2MWYGJ4
Srs just get a crown vic, marty tune it and its a beast. Those engines sound so fucking good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yj5P193fJIo

>>512037469
Yeah, excuse me while I play a tune on the world's very first microscopic violin.
>can I have a truck please? I have 20k
>no 90k starting + dealer fees final offer fuck you haha
I've had enough of it and so has everyone else.

>>512039287
I drive a Lucerne. Mechanic beside me, drives the exact acura Im talking about with a stick. Alternately theres a bunch of Lexus with toyota engines. You can still find an 300GS with a 2jz under 200,000km. Dont tell me they dont exist, not only do they exist theyre luxury and 1/10th the cost of a new car.

>>512039269
Agreed brother. Even GM is offering value with the Trax n sheit. I see those little fuckers everywhere now, it's like the new Kia Soul but better. I probably wouldn't get one but Ford seems to focus solely on high-margin vehicles, especially since 2020 when the Fusion stopped production.

>>512037469
Real patriots don't need luxuries such as pickup trucks.

>>512039379
shut the fuck up jew.

>Buy used car with good structure
>Swap engine with crate engine
>Drive till it falls apart
Or
>Buy new Mitsubishi Mirage (I asked lots of car guys what the absolute best car for a broke college student is. This one is the usual response).
>Finance it if needed
>Follow regular maintenance
>Dont off-road it or do stupid shit with it
>Drive it for the next 10 yeard

>>512037469
The margins aren't large enough! Make it 200k!

People still buy "found on roads daily"?

>>512037380 (OP)

Fuck them, they put Manufacturing plants in Mexico, let them suffer until they bring all their plant back home.

>>512037380 (OP)
Ford is opening new production lines in the USA and is able to count those expenses as loss for tax purposes.

That is how Amazon ''doesn't pay any taxes"

They are moving four factories back and adding production lines at existing plants. Hawaii is getting a huge boost from this.

Yeah they will make less money and have to put up money up front, but its better for the country to have good jobs here instead of in other countries.

More leftist doom and gloom. Literally anything has to be spun to be the end of the world caused by Trump.

>>512039428
You just got BTFO.

I can never remember what timeline we are in. Is this the timeline where trump always chickens out from tariffs or the ones where tariffs will cause a recession?

>>512039395
>Even GM is offering value with the Trax n sheit. I see those little fuckers everywhere now

So my parents bought 2 Chevy Malibus back in like, 2014, and I own one of those two now (it's starting to fall apart, but it's still working), but the engine in the other one went last year and we went to the dealer hoping to just get a new 2024 Malibu. Guy told us they literally do not stock them at the dealer at all, because no one wants them. But they have 1000 Traxs' because apparently those sell like crazy. So they bought one of those.

It's ok. My biggest gripe is that it has no fucking center console, so the only arm rest on it is this thin little piece of shit attached to the seat, which is uncomfortable as hell.

>>512039540
>still won't show his flag
Go be a gay little jew somewhere else you duplicious little pussy

>>512038417
>Our entire financial system is fucked.
Good take, the financial system is fucked as it is currently, and agenda 2030 is still a go. The era of owning nothing and being happy is upon us.
>And they sit... and probably provide banks w\ tons of capital to lend, and then they likely borrow money against the "value" of their inventory which mostly sits.
This is correct. You buy an asset, borrow money against that asset, sell the asset at a loss, write the loss off of your taxes, and use all of that money to buy more assets and repeat the process.
If you want another shining example of this look at the crypto market and what Tether and companies like MSTR do to Bitcoin.
It does lead me to think that they are going to use the crypto market as a pressure release valve for the fiat market. Nothing ever happens, but a 324 trillion dollar debt dump into crypto in a global pump and dump would be interesting.

>>512039591
Keep driving Nissans smoothbrain.

>>512037469
Miga excuses are getting dumber and dumber

>>512039568
Tariffs will cause a recession because Trump chickens out (he’s really asking for a bribe/donation to his Trump Foundation in return for lifting the tariffs). Both of these can be true.
Trumps biggest problem is he is not going far enough, fill autarky for the USA, we will trade when it is in the nations favor. Otherwise we can just make our own stuff

>>512039584
GM is going through the same issue with their trucks though. They want 120k for a "work truck" with failing sensors and a rusting frame before it even leaves the lot.

>>512039621
>still acting like a dishonest little jew
lol. LMAO even.

>>512039671
>cheap
>well built
>American made

Pick 2 and only 2.

>>512039821
Well built and American made

>>512039856
That will be $150k thank you.

>>512039856
Sorry, best we can do is something poorly slapped together by drunk mexicans for BMW prices

>>512039821
None. Cars are ruining the landscape and cities

>>512037380 (OP)
>profit
>net loss
>net income

>>512037380 (OP)
You should all be buying Ford to keep his memory alive, one of the greatest jew noticers ever.

>>512039971
What's your issue. Profit and net income are synonymous and net loss is the logical flip of profit.

How are Lincolns? Been eyeing a 10 year old MKZ with low miles

>>512037704
>200m tacky gold ball room
>1b for plane renovations that Trump will get to keep
Yeah really feels like the people are getting their money back.

>>512039671
Sell you an OBS 2500 for 15k, only body and frame are solid, needs 4k in work. Imagine buying a new truck ever, you can get that OBS for like 2 grand do the work yourself bam 6k snow plow truck. Anyone driving a new car, a car newer than 2008 is braindead.

>>512039821
more like pick one

Remember when vehicle manufacturers made vehicles and not computers with wheels?

bed* and frame

>>512039268
>America makes no car parts domestically
I've worked at several factories that did just that. There's literally no reason they need to import those products.

>>512040226
I mean VWs are cheap and well built. I suppose maybe the other permutations of US built don't exist.

>>512039300
My question is, if trucks are so god damned expensive now, how come every illegal spic drives around in a lifted one? Are they being given to them?

>>512040093
Id buy a 92 Thunderbird before Id buy a brand new ford.

>>512040293
Yeah but how do you expect them to afford a superyacht to park their yacht in if they don't use slave labour and near slave labour in brown countries?

There are people who would rather a 2025 Elantra than saving 8,000$ and getting a 2002 Corvette for 20k. Some people dont deserve to breathe.

>>512040339
Despite what the orange jew claims, illegals are still being given tons of money.

>>512040293
>There's literally no reason they need to import those products.
Because it's expensive to produce them domestically. That's the point of tariffs. To raise import prices to the point domestic production is competitive. You have a thread full of people complaining the reason they're actually making a loss is the cars are TOO EXPENSIVE and your suggestion is to submit to the tariffs and hire even more expensive domestic labour.

>I know your car company is already non-profitable and at risk of collapse but have you considered paying EVEN MORE for domestic production whilst not raising prices (because apparently that's why you're failing, not math)?

>>512039056
No it was Obama. Cash for clunkers or whatever it was called.
Absolutely fucking devastated the used car market.

>>512039173
This is also true, Had a 95 Mercury sable with the Vulcan v6, not fast but comfy and reliable, got 225k miles out of it before i sold it after 11 yrs. Also, them killing the Crown Victoria was criminal.

>>512037380 (OP)
>most of its vehicles are made in the US.
No they arent.
They mostly sell f150s, f150s are manufactured in mexico.

Ford can use American labor and american parts or they can go fuck themselves, maybe mexico will buy 500k f150s a year?

>>512040339
You should look into all the fucking gibs they're given, the US is even more generous with loans to migrants than Canada is because banks are desperate to get more debtors, and the US has more money to throw around to stimulate the banks.

>>512038784
You are dumb as fuck
Ford dominates the commercial fleet market, especially in the truck segment.

>>512040453
The long and the short of it is that Canada is a 10x smaller market and there isnt financial justification to remain in the country, producing parts and such for the US market when the tariffs are there. What makes more sense is to move to the US, and only sell to the US. To just abandon Canada, who will have no new cars, nor parts, except for 200,000$ each for a 1500.

>>512040495
>Ford can use American labor and american parts or they can go fuck themselves
Fords operating margin is already barely scraping 2% BEFORE using domestic steel and labor fucking lol.

You retards have become so accustomed to getting everything dirt cheap with a strong dollar and are now complaining you can't domesticate every industry without prices going up.

>>512039584
Little annoying shit like that is the bane of my existence re modern cars.

>>512037380 (OP)
thanks DRUMP

Current 20yr UAW-Ford worker here. I work at their commercial truck plant. The E series and the F Super Duties are still pumping out strong. The only ones that are slowing down are the F550-750 trucks, they run on their own line in the plant but the 2 shifts have been rotating 2 weeks layoff and 2 weeks working. We still get paid the same when theyre laidoff though so enjoying it for sure. Im switching departments next month to a more laidback consistent work though.

>>512039929
Cool I’ll stick to my compact car

Everyone mocked Trump saying go ahead, put in tariffs, everything will move from China to Canada, and China to Mexico. They said Mexico is the one whos really going to win from these tariffs.

Now youre just asspained hes preventing that. Why is Canada the only one who got tariff increased and no deal, because thats why.

The funny part is Canada could have had *no tariffs* but they wouldnt abandon the controlled distribution system for dairy.

You chose diary over having a future. So dumb. And youre mad at the US for that decision.

>>512040598
>and are now complaining
We're complaining because jews that have taken over our industries have exported EVERYTHING we ever manufactured to other countries and flooded us with cheap plastic shit from china and vietnam.

>>512037598
Toyota builds trucks in Texas.

>>512040233
Maybe they'll stop once it becomes possible to lock vehicles down with ransomware.
Imagine a car going down a highway infecting every other smart vehicle it passes and bricking them on the highway.

>>512039280
>new tablet-free car
how antisemitic of you

but srsly, we need to holocaust all of the "does it have apple car play" niggers and bitches

>>512040684
What well built american compact is there?

>>512038847
Enjoy your giant truck, spic.

>>512037380 (OP)
Meidastouch is run by a jew named cohen. It is literally CIA propaganda you retarded faggots. Kys

Really though did you think after 12 years of open borders to india and communist cancer propaganda state owned media Trump was just going to hand the political left in Canada an economic victory, as a result of his ideology and his voters desires which are completely opposite to how Canada is run. Of course hes not rewarding communism. You let too many niggers in, now you cant join the party.

>>512038929
If jeep can do it, why can't they?

Don't forget, Zion Don also just allowed US Steal to be sold to the nips.

>>512040846
lmao jeep cant do it. the euro jews at stellantis fucked that up too

>>512040722
The only reason you ever got used to cheap goods in the first place is offshoring. The reason you have such massive trade deficits are because you are the worlds largest consooomers and you couldn't possibly produce everything you consume domestically at the prices you do currently.

You have spent literally DECADES profiteering off cheap overseas labour and a strong dollar to build an exceptional quality of life and you're overnight advocating for 15%+ price increases minimum because of what... 'unfairness'? What do you genuinely think you're losing under the current model?

>>512040788
Perfect example of something a retard drives. The cheapest new truck there is, a car-truck, that isnt really a truck at all. It was 48,000 new last year.

Ill go back to fixing up a truck that only had 15,000 made between 88 and 98. Of the 3 million total.

>>512040406
Yeah wow imagine buying a brand new vehicle with factory warranty instead of a 23+ year old worn out vehicle with limited replacement part availability

>>512040851
>US Steal
holy shit you shitskins are fucking retarded

>>512039173
Didn't ford make the cheap ass fiesta for overseas markets? Why can't they make a cheap ass car for the domestic market?

>>512040982
It's how you know he's a 15 year old retard who's never bought a car in his life.

The type to post a 10 year old Bentley Continental at $20k and ask 'should I buy this it seem a good price???'.

>>512040954
>is offshoring
Should I even bother reading the rest of this jew's post? There was nothing made in china or offshored because it literally didn't exist in those countries. Japan was the biggest competitor along with europe.

>>512040982
This guy buys a Hyundai, waits until the warrant is about to run out and then wonders why his car is worth 1700$ and wont even sell because 30% of the rest of the market are also Hyundai owners who are about to pay 8,000$ in suspension repairs. Let me guess, youre on your third engine and they kept replacing it so its a good car. That makes it a good car right.

>>512040788
Those things are extremely gay unless you Dakar the shit out of it

>>512040759
It’s a 96 Corolla originally built in Cali

>>512040488
We had cash 4 clunkers happen up here too, it nearly wiped out our used car economy combined with everyone leasing cars now.
>anon family leases car
>decides not to pay even more to buy it out after the lease period is up(they've already now paid for a car and 1/4th because of interest, and going over the lease milage limit, and whatever other dealer jewry they cram into the lease)
>lease another car, rinse and repeat
>previous car goes back to the dealer and gets cycled back into their inventory to be leased again if the milage is low enough, or gets sent off to auction
>it either auctions off right away, or gets passed around the auction/dealer gauntlet for years
>it gets auctioned off for scrap
>it gets auctioned to a used car dealer who scalps it
>it gets auctioned to a used car dealer who gets stuck sitting on it until they bounce it back to auction
>it gets auctioned off to some "buy now pay later" gauntlet where it gets beat on by shitheads and junkies, and repo'd every couple of months for the rest of its short life
>or it gets auctioned to an NGO or exporter sending our used cars to the middle east or africa

It is really funny how the political debate has turned. Back in the days leftists would write these long fucking essays on why their talking points were right, while the chuds were able to just throw a one liner at them and basically deflate the entire argument.

Now its the exact opposite. Trumpers need to write on and on and on how complicated everything is and how the devil is in the detail.

>>512040982
Ill save you a lot of pain since youre too stupid to research this stuff yourself. Buy yourself a Pontiac with a 3.8L engine, and make sure its called "the 3800 engine"

>>512037380 (OP)
>it is the tarifs, guys

>>512041055
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7NlC166DR0
I want you to watch this whole video then guess my age again. Be aware I watched all his videos and settled on this one for my choice of a car. All of them.

>>512037380 (OP)

Good. Time to reshore. MAGA.

>>512040453
They're too expensive because they are designed by retards. Why not design a cheap starter car that uses only american made parts? There should be no reason the cost of manufacturing overseas and shipping it here should ever cost less than producing it here. Don't you faggots claim to care about climate change? Consider these tariffs a carbon tax.

>>512037469
this lol bought a new outlander on my coinbase card for .255 btc and minus being able to accelerate at some retarded speed its the same shit

>>512040553
>commercial fleet market
>especially in trucks
oh wowe so they're dominating among... rental cars. In a field where only 3 other brands can even compete because of regulatory capture? Wowee that sure sounds like a win to me.

>>512037380 (OP)
Why are they comparing completely different fucking numbers?
Why are jeets like this?

>>512040958
I prefer not to see the road under the floorboard when I drive.
>>512041081
You're gay. Enjoy your dually you've never once hauled a load with.

>>512040598
Because wages havent gone up to match inflation you stupid faggot.
Idgaf if the prices are high as long as wages match.
They already price gouge us, deny us decent jobs, and utilize cheap foreign labor to extract the most money out of the American economy. They can figure out how to manufacture here or they can die and be replaced by someone who can.
Same goes for GM, Chrysler.
Its called price equillibriam dipshit, its the exact same mechanism that will equalize wages and product cost when farm corpos no longer have access to illegal labor.

>>512040715
>no you dont understand you just need to accept the absolutely cancerous bullshit americans allow corporations to do to their food supply.
lol. LMAO even. I don't think I will accept your country's puss riddled garbage meat, and your growth hormone poisoned milkslop thanks.

>>512041492
So dont buy it. Hey Im actually fine with Canada acting irrationally, the last thing I want is a sound fiscal policy and economic prosperity for half of India. Please, keep being stupid.

>>512041486
I think it's time for the invisible hand to slap the shit out of these faggots.

>>512041243
>Actually saving $8k to spend $2k in parts alone (not labour) to get a 20 year old car running again that has 360k miles on it and inevitably more parts will fail is a better deal than getting a warrantied brand new car with zero miles
Just admit you're poor. Poor financial decisions like this are why the poor remain poor. Because they're initially resource constrained and think saving $6k to pump $2k+labour in parts into a 20 year old car every 2 years is sensible.

>>512040954
>look at all the cheap chink junk!
>think of all the trash you can buy!
>suppressed wages
>cost of living through the roof
>housing outrageous
>healthcare outrageous
>education outrageous
>but think of all the 400 dollar flatscreen TVs!

Youre a retard bro. Id much rather give up the luxury of replacing my tv every two years in excange for the economic prosperity and average wage from 40 years ago.

>>512041481
I prefer to have a stick in my heavy duty truck thanks.

>>512040846
Jeep can't do it either, they're struggling to move their cars too because again, the dealers are pushing jeeps up into the 50k+ range for garbage.

And I actually didn't mind their new little pickup jeep.

>>512041683
Mine has 120,000km on it, I paid 4700. Then I put 4k into it. Nothing was actually broken, just future preventative maintenance and then replacing the tires/struts so it rides super smooth again. Heres the thing, its actually fun to put money into this car. The opposite of oh no, not X.

>A high school understanding of the global economy
So...no understanding?
They don't teach international trade/economics in High School. That was like the fourth economics class I took in college that required several other prerequisites

>>512041717
I bet you love having phallic objects in your hand at all times, don't you, fag? Manual is a meme. I have paddle shifters anyway so eat my ass.

>>512041602
>PLEASE FUCKING BUY OUR GARBAGE
>WELL FINE DONT BUY IT IF YOU DONT LIKE IT
>REEE WHY WONT YOU BUY OUR GARBAGE
lol you're literally crying because we won't buy your garbage cancerous "food" slop, pick a lane retard.

>>512037380 (OP)
Gonna try building a vehicle.
Something very multipurpose, more rugged (like can tumble down a hill into a parking spot without issue). Maybe amphibious - that'd be useful.

>>512037380 (OP)
Maufscture your parts in america you treacherous jews

>>512041717
Tacoma/Helix scares the shit out of Amerijew auto manufacturers.

Trump won. Ford lost.

>>512041277
>There should be no reason the cost of manufacturing overseas and shipping it here should ever cost less than producing it here
It's really simple anon. Wages in Asia are 1/10th of yours. Your dollar is also a far stronger currency. Their steel is significantly cheaper too alongside every other component that goes into the car. I know its hard to believe but making things in America is EXPENSIVE. If it wasn't they wouldn't be bothering making overseas and shipping it over.

>>512041486
>Because wages havent gone up to match inflation you stupid faggot.
I'm not sure how increasing production costs by domesticating them helps this situation, retard.
>They can figure out how to manufacture here or they can die and be replaced by someone who can.
It's quite simple anon. It's not possible. You cannot produce a car domestically at the same price. It's quite simply not possible.
>Its called price equillibriam dipshit
Price equilibriUM is a function of both supply and demand. If you make goods more expensive to produce the supply curve shifts right and you get just get LESS supply. Price doesn't change you stupid retard. Price equilibrium represents the price determined by the market based on two DIFFERENT systems (S&D), it's not a magical system which drives prices down.

The economic literacy on this board is fucking DISHWATER.

Thermostat, water pump, plugs, coils, serp belt, tires, struts, alternator was fine and its an original denso so left that, coolant elbow to aluminum, valve covers fine not leaking. Think Im forgetting a couple things, but yea thats what I determined it should have done even though none of it was fucked. Serp belt screeched in super cold weather, figured why not get the water pump too. Pulleys, tensioners were fine.

>>512040938
>>512041742
I know, which is funny. The last vehicle I'd think of as luxurious is a jeep. It's made to be rugged and go anywhere, not give you a facial while you drive. Didn't even get me started on the day duck culture they have. I'd rather take public transport than drive a fucking jeep.

>>512037380 (OP)
Well, maybe you should make ALL of your vehicle in the US. More jobs for all of us.

>>512040632
It really is so fucking retarded.

"Hey, I want to buy X car."
>Oooh, well, uh...yeah we don't have any on the lot here.
"But it's a current model-year car? You don't have ONE?"
>No, sorry. We could call around to other dealerships to see if they have one, but they would have to trade us for it and they probably don't need any of the stock we have...
"So I can't buy the car I want, from your manufacturer, because you specifically don't have one in stock, and you can neither order me one nor point me to where I can get one?"
>No, sorry, that's just not how it works. If we have to order it it'll cost like $10k extra.
>But! We do have 100 of these SUVs that everyone buys now. Specifically in racing blue and puke-forest green. Want one of those?

What the fuck, bro.

>>512042030
Ok but one of those pollutes the world way fucking more than the other. How come I never hear about climate change anymore since you started falling on the side against tariffs?

>>512037380 (OP)
Good. I hope ford goes under and no parts are available at affordable prices for these retarded migatards in trucks.

>>512042095
I just don't like how all jeeps out of the factory have death wobbles, and they all rattle like they're falling apart anywhere from idle to max RPM.

>>512037469
>Pricing trucks at $110,000.
Pricing electric trucks at $110,000

>>512042168
>How come I never hear about climate change anymore since you started falling on the side against tariffs?
Because it's a moot point. Chinese energy production is off the charts growth in renewables but the US is petitioning to bring back coal (LOL). Shipping isn't as inefficient as you think for something like a car. Imagine outsourcing all your disgusting dirty production pollution air to China and then complaining your kids can breathe too well and you'd rather bring all those emissions back onto your continent.

Same argument about 'muh toxic electric vehicle production'. Yeah dipshit that's why I want that all to happen in China so I can drive a clean electric at home and not be fucking huffing DIESEL FUMES all the time.

>>512042280
I wouldn't know how they drive. The last one I rode in was like a 94 wrangler. It was a 4 cylinder and could barely make it up slight grades.

For the 2500 truck, which I inherited I dont know its original price - itl be battery, starter, fuel pump, full brakes all around, rear brake hardware, rear fuel lines, tires, emergency brake cable and a gas tank. 3-4k Im guessing. And then itl be a 10,000$ truck to start, because its one of 15,000 88-98 GMC OBS with a stick, and it also has the 5.7. I could probably sell it for 15k, and if it was mint like actually low miles (170,000 km) say it was like 50 instead then yea easy 25,000$ truck.

>>512042381
I'm glad we have teleporter technology that transports the parts directly from the producer to the manufacturer. Thank god for that.

>>512042280
American engineering (probably jeets)

>>512042030
Someone has to work in the factories retard.
Broadly forcing the economy to onshore their labor is going to require them to pay more in wages, which will eventually reach an equilibrIAM with the cost of consumer goods.

Its literally two sides of the same coin and the PRICE OF GOODS ALONE DOESNT FUCKING MATTER, its value compared with the buying power of the consumer is what ultimately matters.

This also goes along with federal regulation, which is also a major factor in the price of cars in the US, deregulation is in order.

>>512037380 (OP)
When I took global economics in highschool they told me to buy American.

Weird since I was in the UK

>>512042656
And much like your high school, that was when we were still white.

>>512037380 (OP)
What actually killed their profit is the software update that fucking periodically shuts off the console so you can't even turn on the air conditioning and when you call their service department their only answer is "UNPLUG THE BATTERY SAAR THE NEEDFUL SOFTWARE FIX IS SOON SAAR."

>>512042030
>I'm not sure how increasing production costs by domesticating them helps this situation, retard
Because having a competitive manufacturing industry leads to people who can afford to buy the shit they're making, America and Canada did it just fine before globalists and jews sold everything off to shitholes for pennies on the dollar. Retard.
>It's quite simple anon. It's not possible. You cannot produce a car domestically at the same price. It's quite simply not possible.
You can when there isn"t a team of 500+ shitheels and jews at the top of the company making 200 to 400 TIMES what the people at the bottom who'd be buying their products are making, you disingenuous cunt, it worked just fucking fine for Henry Ford until the jewish dodge brothers kvetched to the jewish courts.
>jew market schizobabble to justify all the scamming and bullshit going on
>blah blah blah your economic literacy blah blah blah
Leave it to a bong flag to defend heiniously jewish bullshit

>>512042594
It's not jeets, it's always been a jeep thing. They've always been cheap garbage, because they started out as cheap MIC slop to get the job done for cheap(ish)

So in conclusion if youre poor, you want an offbrand model like Oldsmobile, or Pontiac, but theres also like Buick Allures which come super cheap I saw one with 140,000km for 2400 Canadian and it only needed a battery. Old people driven. Old people died.

>Its just a shitty old Pontiac, they dont even make those anymore!
>*sells amazing bulletproof engine for peanuts*

Heres the best car advice you will ever get, bar none.
>When you buy a car, you dont buy the car, you buy the engine.
>Find the engine you want, then find the best car wrapped around it

Bonus points if the transmission is a stick, because then it will actually last long. Fun fact, Honda cant build an automatic transmission. Thats always what fails on your civic/CRV etc, unless its a head gasket, because the cat was driven clogged for 100k, and its a 370,000km car now, and the cat fucked the engine into a head gasket from the heat.
t. owned 3 hondas

Also that 3800 is a non-interference engine, which means even if the timing fails the pistons wont smack the valves. A Honda, or Toyota - you just grenaded your engine.

>>512042511
Ok so you didn't read anything I wrote. I accept your concession.

>>512042599
Bro you can't even spell equilibrium.
>'We should raise the minimum wage for existing US industry and workers across the economy!'
>GOP: NO THAT'S SOCIALISM ITLL RAISE PRICES
>'We should tax companies into oblivion and FORCE them to onshore with domestic labour which they'll have to pay higher wages for and increase their car prices'
>GOP: Yeah that sounds about right! Prices definitely won't increase if we force the employees to be paid more!!!

>>512042787
>Because having a competitive manufacturing industry leads to people who can afford to buy the shit they're making
'Forcing production costs to be higher means people can afford to buy it more!!!'
>America and Canada did it just fine before globalists and jews sold everything off to shitholes for pennies on the dollar
Cars were proportionately many multiples more expensive and not widespread and would be the equivalent of about $200k today.
>top of the company making 200 to 400 TIMES what the people at the bottom
> it worked just fucking fine for Henry Ford
Sorry are you telling me Henry Ford wasn't getting paid 200x his employees? Really? And that all his employees were driving Model Ts? Really?
>to defend heiniously jewish bullshit
We're at the point where discussion of basic microeconomic mechanisms is 'jewish bullshit'. Says everything you need to know about the quality of intellect and this shithole board.

The transmission gets torque converter shudder, it sends heat into the engine and head gaskets it if you leave it. You can add 20$ "tranny doctor" red goop to the transmission in the top through a little spin thing you dont even need tools. Did it myself. Itl make the shudder go away, and itl last a few thousand km before it head gaskets anyways or starts knocking from internal damage.

The shudder feels like a juttering as you drop from 80km to the 4-60 cruising range typically when you enter a small town. So you might be going wtf is that road cursed, it always shakes there. Its that you slowed to town speed, thats torque converter shudder. That will kill most early 2000s civics after 300,000km.

>>512037380 (OP)
>net loss
kek nice try, they even beat the profits from the previous quarter and are up 5% compared to last year

>>512037380 (OP)
>Despite the fact that Ford manufactures most of its vehicles in the U.S., the company relies on parts imported from outside of the country
Manufacture in the US, not my problem

>they rely on parts manufactured outside the company
this is what the tariffs are designed to end, though

>>512042787
Like fuck, as recently as the boomers an adult highschool student in both the US and Canada could just fucking walk into a factory job that paid him enough to have a house, a car, a wife, and multiple kids without debt or even having to fucking graduate.
>it wasn't minimum wage
>he didn't have to go through the temp agency gauntlet
>he didn't have to compete with the entire fucking planet for the job
>he didn't have to have a diploma, certificate, or trade license
>he didn't have openly hostile women and foreigners squatting in HR/hiring positions

Oh and those honda engines also get low oil pressure at idle, which causes you to rev it higher and mechanics will just scratch their heads, pretty much you got piston slap and the oil is mixing with the gas, and its just not idling right. Engines dying when you see that, youd need a full rebuild.

>>512039058
Ford cope. The Japs don't have any problems with the standards. American auto companies cut corners to their own detriment. Same old song and dance for 40 years.

>>512037380 (OP)
>NOOOOO. Not my corporate profits? Why even bother outsourcing all our manufacturing now?

>>512043176
>>512043215
The point of tariffs is to render imports not competitive. To do so you set the pricing at domestic equivalent pricing. In effect the tariff applied pricing is the domestic pricing. If you are making a loss with tariffs you will almost certainly also be making a loss with domestic production.

Especially at 2% margins of Ford.

>>512043355
>THE DEMOCRATS ARE DIRTY SOCIALISTS!!!!!!
>IF FORD ISNT WILLING TO OPERATE A COMPANY AT A COMPLETE LOSS AND ACTIVELY LOSE MONEY TIL IT FAILS THEY'RE DIRTY CAPITALISTS!!!!!

>>512039280
It's illegal to make a car without a tablet. Back up cameras are required by the department of transportation.

>>512043099
You wrote only of manufacturing and completely ignored the crazy amount of pollution global shipping causes. You're a faggot.

>>512043455
They are not losing money
They are lying
I know you are new to this but you will understand. They didn't go from 1.8 billion to -29 million lmao you stupid faggot

>>512043099
>but muh minimum wage!
>muh GOP
>muh socialism
Fuck the GOP and also yes.
Yeah, id much rather reestablish a functional economy that pays good wages rather than just demand more money for sheetheels working unproductive service jobs.
I suppose youd rather the government give away tax dollars so every retard can go to college if they feel like it.
Kind of exactly how US college works now, except theres a jewish predatory usery scheme tacked onto the taxpayer funded university education.

Idk how many times I have to say it, prices alone do not matter.
Idgaf if prices increase if thats what it takes to strengthen the lower and middle classes.

Ford's a piece of shit.
My aunt in law was driving her son's leased Ford Explorer around a corner and the damn control arm broke off. Brand new car, low speed turn at 20 mph at most turn, boom, pow, the whole damn thing flips over onto the roof. Had to get her out with the jaws of life.

Worst part is we'd just taken the car on a week long road trip down I-95 at 80 mph. We could have all died maybe.

>>512043099
>'Forcing production costs to be higher means people can afford to buy it more!!!'
Yes, because manufacturing at the time paid wages that allowed people to buy the products they were making, and the higher wages of domestic manufacturing(to attract workers) also forced other industries to offer more to keep their workers.

China's fucking doing it right now building the biggest middle class in the world by making shit for everyone else.
>Cars were proportionately many multiples more expensive and not widespread and would be the equivalent of about $200k today.
Yeah sure, but at the time wages had anywhere from 40 to 400 TIMES the buying power they have now, so don't act like cars were just more expensive in a vacuum you little jew.
>Sorry are you telling me Henry Ford wasn't getting paid 200x his employees? Really? And that all his employees were driving Model Ts? Really?
No, I'm telling you Ford was consistently paying higher than the industry average with the intention of having workers who could afford to buy what they were making until the literally jewish dodge brothers went to court and forced companies to be fiscally responsible to (((investors))) over employees.
>We're at the point where discussion of basic microeconomic mechanisms is 'jewish bullshit'. Says everything you need to know about the quality of intellect and this shithole board.
Well yeah, considering all your arguments have been jewish in nature and fail to hold up to any real scrutiny yeah, the economy IS jewish bullshit, and yeah, clearly the quality of intellect here is greater than the hebrew peanut rattling around inside your skull

>>512043809
>20 mph
>Flipped onto roof
X to doubt

>>512043099
>were all his employees, the best payed workers of their time all buying model Ts

yes you moron. That was the exact strategy Ford used to create a market for his model T in the first place you dunce.

>>512037380 (OP)
>suddenly libshits care about the profits of corporations they have been calling evil and fighting against for years.
what a time to be alive

>>512043945
Ive seent it before anon, SUVs are shit.

>>512038847
Are you the same guy from the thread 2 weeks ago that was arguing that Ford was now good and producing better quality, long-lasting vehicles than Honda/Toyota?

>>512043809
Skill issue

>>512037814
Most of the electronics are required by government so it's not really Ford's fault. All cars require backup cameras, tire pressure monitoring systems, seat belt warnings (for all seats, including back seats starting in the next couple years), etc. Automatic emergency breaking is set to be required by 2029 too.
So that's a camera, a tablet to display the camera output, tire pressure sensors and a screen to display tire pressure, weight sensors on every single seat + latch sensors, sensors and cameras on the front of the car to detect it's surroundings for automatic breaking. Expect every car to have that auto engine off when idling "feature" too because it's the only way manufacturers can hit the governments required fuel economy targets.
It's illegal to just make a car that rolls on 4 wheels these days.

>>512038847
Then a Ford? Yes, of course. Where have you been, you dumb redneck?

>>512044210
No. I dont actually believe in anything post 2008 market crash, and that years significant for other reasons. So typically to be very exact the 2009 model year is made *in 2008*, the model year is from the year before. So 2009 max. Dont buy anything after that. The car companies cheaped out as a response to a recession. Its been dogshit ever since, worse in more recent years because of environmental stuff. 3x worse if you drive a diesel.

>>512038831
The retard can't fathom having more sales at lower price will bring increased revenues, he lashes out in a confused and angry state. "They are stupid, not me!" It mumbles

>>512043883
>Model T price $825
>Daily Ford salary $5/day (noted to be exceptional, annual salary of around $1200
>Modern average car price $45k
>Average autoworker annual salary $47-49k
It's not nearly as disjointed as you think it is.

>>512043945
Jeep liberties repeatedly failed rollover safety tests because a stiff breeze would send them tumbling, a lot of SUV's and crossovers are unstable messes.

I too doubt that it was just a gentle curve flipping it though, she probably had her phone in her face, saw the turn late, and panic jerked the wheel.

>>512037380 (OP)
who gives a flying fuck? why is this on the board it's fucking retarded

>>512044277
Toyota has to meet the same requirements. How much do you think a backup camera adds in production cost? Less than $10 per car. Probably less than 5. Electronic components aren't the reason American companies can't compete.

>>512044314
Nissan is going bankrupt because things like the 2017 titan needing an entire new transmission if it breaks in a common way, because Nissan as a company is too poor to even make the gasket. So instead of a 12$ gasket you buy a 3,000$ transmission.

Hyundai, Kia are designed specifically to fail in every fucking spot right after warranty.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ggxM9ro_sI
Here you go.

Mazda is just a cheap car for low IQ people. Everyone buys a Mazda. Are they terrible for reliability, not really. It just means youre a midwit at best. You had the choice of anything and you chose a Mazda 3.

>>512037539
>lol where exactly was the money supposed to come from anon?
The federal reserve prints it and loans it to banks
Banks loan it out to company
Like everywhere in the world since 1950. Duh

>>512044347
Yes anon. Why don't you just go and walk into a role as CFO of Ford. They clearly haven't already done this analysis in their pricing and you are a colossal big brain for proving it without a doubt on the back of a fag packet.

It's just so obvious. I don't understand why they haven't already done it.

>>512037380 (OP)
>AHHHHHHHHH TRUMP SAVE MEEEEEE

Build american cars in america, no tariffs - you stupid fucking jew.

>>512037469
$110,000 for base model work truck

>>512037469
>>512038050
>>512038126
>Pricing trucks at $110,000.
Almost as if they had to raise prices because of tarriffs and moving production to Amerikikeia

Fucking retards.

>>512044509
I'd still buy any one of those before a Ford. More to the point, you're conveniently leaving out Toyota and Honda.

>>512044599
Im not leaving anything out:
>>512044342
>No. I dont actually believe in anything post 2008 market crash

Ford isnt bad, all new cars are bad. Its like saying Id rather this turd than that log of shit. You truly are comparing two pieces of shit.

>>512044593
Their prices have been this high for years.

>>512044593
This was before tariffs based retard
Ford also performs ASSEMBLY in America so they’re not tariffed by the U.S. just hit by retaliatory tariffs like everyone else

When you say Ford, I think Panther Platform. No I wouldnt buy much else, I said Id buy a 92 thunderbird earlier in the thread. Theyre not bad.

Abandoned ford factory in usa

>>512044593
>YOU MUST PRODUCE YOU CARS IN THE US
>but it costs way more
>OK ILL TARIFF YOU TO THE POINT IT COSTS THE SAME AS PRODUCING IN THE US
>ok but that doesnt make it any cheaper for us to produce
>OK BUT NOW YOULL BE PRODUCING IN AMERICA
>ok but we'll have to raise prices because our margins are 2% and we literally cannot swallow a 15% increase in costs without losing money
>WAIT WHY ARE YOU RAISING PRICES, THAT ISN'T WHAT WE AGREED!!! WE NEED SOCIALIST PRICE CONTROLS NOW!!!!!

>>512044593
They were priced that high before the tarriffs, none of the production has been moved to the US because you cant tool up factories and a workforce in 6 months retard.

Nice try tho.

>>512040339
the average illegal is collecting benefits and cash from a minimum of 5+ sources

>>512044567
They don't even build cars, just retardedly expensive pick ups and SUVs. Where's the Focus ST, or the Fusion or even the Taurus SHO? The only car they make is the Mustang and they even fucked that up with some electric diarrhea on wheels called the Mach-E. People aren't buying goddamned Ford's because Ford doesn't make shit people want.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjsqXf4hju0

>>512038437
Can be (i don’t even know if that’s true)
But if they can and trump is supposed to be being back these jobs where are all the new mines? Where are all the new factories?
Why aren’t companies seeing this as.a goldmine opportunity to start investing

>>512044404
Yes, in a vacuum when only talking about cars it isn't as disjointed, but the problem is everything else went up far more disproportionately, except wages.
>model T price: $825
>Ford salary: $5/d, 1200/yr.
>rent: $10 every 2 weeks, if you had to rent and picked a nice area.
>food: less than $1 a day to feed a family of 5
Yeah, a Ford worker back in the day could still fucking buy a Ford Model T in cash after a year and a half working there if he otherwise lived frugally.
You're insanely jewish if you still think there's a way to reasonably argue your way out of this hole you're digging for yourself.

>>512044729
>Ford also performs ASSEMBLY in America so they’re not tariffed by the U.S
Lmao what the fuck are you talking about. Every single time a steel part crosses the US border it's subject to a tariff. That's the point.

A transmission alone crosses the border SEVEN TIMES during its production. See picrel.

>>512044536
Wow...it's almost like....there's multiple ways to run a business....and you have to....pick one path....instead of multiple at a time??? Do you have a brain? Are you even white? No, you're spiritually a stupid fucking gorillanigger for not understanding basic entrepreneurship.
>sell item for high price for low volume and high margins
>sell item for mid price for mid volume and mid margins
>sell item for low price for high volume and low margin

>>512037380 (OP)
>>512044593
>Almost as if they had to raise prices because of tarriffs and moving

>30% tarrif on nuts and bolts and sheet metal
>lets raise prices by 300% :)
>OEY VEY GOYIM THEY HAD NO CHOICE, IT WAS DA TARRIFS ON 2$ MADE IN CHINA BOLTS. DONT YOU KNOW HOW ECONOMY WORKS?

every faggot corporation has done the same thing since the tarfis started, rather than take a 30% hit in profits they took a 100% hit in profits by jacking their prices so high nobody wanted to buy them. 30% of 1.8 billion isn't -29 million you stupid nigger.
>>512041190
also this.

>>512041117
kys faggot

>>512037971
It’s mainly because they didn’t think of it first even though the idea was just sitting there for years since Pat Buchanan almost got the Republican nomination in the 90s

>>512037380 (OP)
So where's the other billion dollars?

> 1.8 billion income last year
> minus 800k tariff
> = 1.0 billion

Sounds to me like they're doing what most corporations do, blaming their net loss on outside factors, hoping no one checks the math

>>512037380 (OP)
yes. build the shit here dummies.

>>512044968
So what you're telling me is, it isn't the autoworkers salaries or price of cars that's the issue at all. It's the cost of everything else. It's almost like arbitrarily taxing companies 15% isn't going to fix food prices or rent.

40% of US vegetables are imported from Mexico but sure its the US car industry that's the real driver of poverty.

>>512044973
Wow... it's... almost like a revenue optimisation calculation has like... one solution. And the OP seemed to be suggesting they just... hadn't performed that calculation.

I'm a CPA. Are you anon?

>>512044729
>Ford also performs ASSEMBLY in America
Guess where they're buying the parts from idiot
>NOOOOOO BUY FROM AMERICAN BUSINESSES INSTEAD EVEN IF ITS 400% MORE EXPENSIVE !11!!

>>512037380 (OP)
oh noess poor ford!! maybe stop making overpriced TRASH and people will buy again

>>512037380 (OP)
Ford isn't broke because of a brand new tariff. They're broke because they stopped making good cars and trucks. Anyone with a brain buys Toyota, Lexus, Honda or Acura. The only entities still buying American manufactured trucks are government fleets.

>>512039478
Hey the idiots who drive them will pay it

>>512045197
>I'm a CPA
You're a nigger.

>>512044969
all of this is funded by a mountain of financially subsidized, and government subsidized tomfoolery, trade shit like nafta and natu and debts all designed to line investor pockets and justify spending on dependant government/regulatory body jobs.

oncd again, shit worked just fine before all the globalist jewish financial nonsense kicked into overdrive.

>>512037598
>Pretty nice everyman truck from the 90s/00s with a far higher % of US parts and labor than today would be about 30k (50k today)
>That same 50k price point today gets you a rental spec rcsb shitbox that is 90% Chinese/Mexican parts and labor with the rest being final assembly of only premade assemblies all while having 1/4 the quality and 1/10th the reliability

>>512045197
>CPA in bongland
You can become a CPA in America taking nightclasses on the weekend. What exactly was that meant to prove? Also, CPA's have nothing to do with designing business strategy nor implementing said strategy. You're the tax janny in the back closet putting numbers into a machine and repeating what it says.
>they hadn't performed that calculation
Wow it's almost like....the business goes by....what the CEO's decision is.....and.....the...CEO...is....LE wrong.
Off yourself you snaggletooth nigger.

>>512038389
>implying Canadians are buying Fords
I’ve seen more Ridgelines and Tacomas this year than ever.

>>512039011
Hope it wasn't new because the current jap trucks are jokes.

>>512037380 (OP)
They will bounce back and slingshot into the stratosphere with steller sales of their superior trucks and cargo vans. Ford has a good future ahead. I'm going to buy more stock while the getting is good.

>>512045197
>So what you're telling me is, it isn't the autoworkers salaries or price of cars that's the issue at all. It's the cost of everything else.
Stop being a jew, it isn't one or the other it's a whole economy of intertwined, incestuous bullshit problems and parasites sucking up the entire world's wealth into a handfull of pockets.

>40% of US vegetables are imported from Mexico but sure its the US car industry that's the real driver of poverty.
>I'm a CPA
You didn't have to tell us you're jewish, we can already tell by your arguments.

>>512044045
It's gonna be even funnier when they switch sides again 20 years down the line.

>>512037704
>cut medicaid by 1 billion
>500 million goes to israel for rockets on top of its regularly scheduled aid which it gets all of in the beginning of the year and then uses it to buy US bonds and collect more interest

Lol

>>512039280
I don’t know why it’s so expensive anyway, an iPads like 500 bucks max

>>512045426
The UK equivalent takes 3 years of training and 15 exams, including long case studies on business financial planning and strategy. My undergrad was also PPE from Merton, Oxford. I've never done a tax comp in my life. My point is I'm not going to listen to a retard that thinks a revenue optimisation calculation as multiple solutions for a single local minima.

>Wow it's almost like....the business goes by....what the CEO's decision is.....and.....the...CEO...is....LE wrong.
'Actually they did do the calculation but they just did it wrong because the CEO and CFO both getting paid multiple millions of dollars are purposefully trying to do their jobs wrong and make less money and I'm smarter despite never even going to college let alone actually understanding a P&L'

Absolute peak dunning-kruger.

>>512037598
they arent building in the us and they still price the shit high, no longer make a reasonably priced quarter ton utility truck and havent for a while. fucking most service-trade jobs dont need a fucking half ton hauling capacity. but nooo even the ranger is a half ton full cab with all the stupid computer shit so they can mark it up to 33k instead of anything reasonable. Rangers used to go for little more than a civic or other bullshit poor sedan.

It is kind of funny to watch libshits defend such corporations engaging in predatory pricing because reasons. Id almost respect them if they had any integrity with anything they say they give a shit about, but instead it sure seems to me the only thing they actually care about is whatever will cause the most societal trouble.

>>512037380 (OP)
Kekekekekekek

I love when dumbfuck retards opine with their clueless propagandized little brains. I can guatantee you Ford engaged in significant intercompany fuckery to generate a loss out of nothing.

>>512038281
Americans can't into parts

>>512045460
The only new car I would buy, if I was to do that and I would never - is something with the hellcat engine as its power is genuinely impressive and I think youd be surprised how cheap they really are compared to everything else on the market. A decent choice is the Jeep Trackhawk.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB4Pt9B488c
This ones modified but it should explain my point.

>>512045460
it's mostly fleets buying the fleet trim ones, most Canadians can't afford stealership prices anymore, and even leases are getting too expensive.

Tradies are juggling each others used trucks, the few farmers left are rebuilding the old trucks they left for dead behind a barn, and suburbanites who used to buy the rest of the trucks arw buying crossovers or asian cars.

Also Nissan has a new ~500 horsepower model of their truck or SUV or something, and its specifically recognizing Jeeps success with the trackhawks affordability and desirability. So Ill give it to Nissan, they ARE trying. But theyre still a bad bet imo.

>>512044751
That's actually the old Packard factory, a once popular brand killed by poor management
Kind of like AMC and soon to be Chrysler/Mopar

>>512045709
>cocksford
Oh boy he's a sanctimonious retard AND an elitist braggart lmao

Shut the fuck up, shit for brains.

>>512043945
Didn’t you know if a lower control arm breaks, then the strut assembly which is just a compressed shock and spring will explode out with such force that it will instantly flip the whole car over. Trust me, i’m a Ford Mechanic and astrophysicist

>>512037380 (OP)
Won’t someone think of the HECKIN corporationinos

>>512045912
Nobody has ever cared about the Titan and Nissan might not exist in 5 years

>>512044277
All those regulatory requirements, the big three LOBBIED to have those done. They called up their politician (because bribery is legal) and said we can't have the Hilux, now do what you're told and get to work whore.

That dynamic explains why US is anticompetitive and get lower quality vehicles, living conditions, food, healthcare... And more generally why the US is one those piece-of-shit counties.

>>512045709
>ceos would never make horrific mistakes
position imparts neither competence nor good intentions and there is copious reason to suspect at least one if not both are at play in all but a few corporations.

>>512037704
>37 Trillion debt interests
>Foreign aid to Ukraine and Israel
Just on those two items you already cash negative with that revenue.

>>512044758
they were manufacturing outside the US and trucks were still somehow 110k with only a 2% margin?
lol, i can tell you have never been anywhere near the business

>>512045709
>we did the math, this is the most optimal sales strategy... if people actually buy our cars at these prices

>>512046038
Thats what Ive been saying all thread, so that was me going back on making fun of how bad Nissan is and saying theyre going bankrupt.

2025 Nissan Frontier TARMAC (Concept)
Engine: Tuned V6 (likely based on the 3.8L V6 from the production Frontier)
Horsepower: 400 hp (claimed for the concept)
Purpose: Street-performance truck with aggressive styling and lowered stance
Not yet confirmed for production, but showcases Nissan’s performance ambitions

I think thats what I heard about. But I swear it was more like 500hp. The trackhawk is 700.

>>512045709
Yeah I bet cleaning floors also takes 3 years in bongland because you're all unserious histrionic faggots. UK doesn't build businesses so your CPA is as good as a BA from India.
>CEO's and their respective boards could NEVER make poor decisions leading them to lose money or even....*GASP*.....going bankrupt!?
Is this post real? You need another 3 years in the oven before you can try and speak about anything business related.

Looks alright. As long as they make the gaskets for the transmission this time.

>>512044837
if they get rid of the DCT and go back to the regular slushbox on the focus people would buy it
instead they just cancelled the entire thing.

>>512046043
>Hilux
Meme truck + it was sold here til the mid 90s + the Tacoma/Tundra are aguably superior compared to contemporary Hilux models

>>512037380 (OP)
I've been larping in public as a union worker and telling leftards they defend billionaires and hate workers.
I am also black so I call them racist when they try to fight back.
>you saw that white ceo made less money and you dropped the mask
>black people sposed to be poor right? rayciss ass cracka
Watching them mentally break down is amazing.

>>512037539
Ford decided to outsource thinking there was no risk to doing so.
They were wrong.
You've been brainwashed into thinking old money is entitled to always winning.
Racist cracker.

>>512037504
Obviously when Zillow centralized appraisal system tripled the estimated value of every house in the US all at the same time, Ford got the message.

why don't they make the parts in the US with raw materials from the US?

>>512037469
Those are vehicles are made because they move through tax exempt status rules and can skirt rules about fuel economy under business rules. America is so two faced about what it actually wants and pretends to be. Slash these shitty car regulations so we can produce and sell small cars again or just cool cars in general.

>>512046262
Bullshit, if the our ruling class allowed it to be sold here, it would fucking decimate the truck market. It would turn over the model of ever expensive vehicles, which are pursued due they have the highest profit margin.
We can't though, because we are forced into the inefficient product. We can't escape capitalism.

>>512046243
I'm half convinced he's a jeet or some other swarthoid.
>when all of his arguments fail to gain traction he throws insults
>when that fails he flexes his fancy paper wagie loicense
>still gets fucking dunked on by a working class leaf who barely squeaked through highschool

Maybe Ford would get some sales if they built an 80+ mpg car they designed 40 years ago.

>>512046283
Tell the truth, youre mixed arent you.

>>512045940
>ACTUALLY IF YOU'RE SMART AND ARE SELECTED FROM A BUNCH OF OTHER REALLY SMART PEOPLE TO GO TO ONE OF THE WORLDS TOP EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS YOU'RE ACTUALLY A SHIT FOR BRAINS AND DUMBER THAN ME
>I C-C-COULD HAVE GOTTEN IN IF I T-TRIED BUT I DIDN'T BOTHER BECAUSE...

>>512046133
>lol, i can tell you have never been anywhere near the business
Yes anon you're totally correct. Every single filing for this listed company which is subject to multiple audits a year are completely fake and made up and none of these costs exist and their margins are actually 90%

>>512046134
Yeah you're right anon. They just throw whatever number out there and hope it sticks as opposed to doing literally any economic focus group testing and modelling. But every anon on this shithole board knows better without access to several million dollars worth of consumer surveying.

>>512046243
>UK doesn't build businesses
You're right. It just finances and provides financial services as the financial capital of the English speaking world. The BA was also from Oxford anon. If you'd passed your SATs your reading comprehension might have been a little better.

But sure anon, I'll listen to you. The retard on 4chan with absolutely zero credentials or relevant education.

>THE US HAS A COMPETENCY CRISIS, THATS WHY WE'RE FAILING
>WHAT WE NEED IS MORE UNDERQUALIFIED, UNTRAINED RETARDS OFF 4CHAN TO MAKE DECISIONS, YEAH THAT'LL FIX IT!!!

>>512046164
The ranger raptor makes more power than that. i have a 2024 tacoma 6 speed that makes 270 HP, i tuned it on 93 octane and it makes about 340 now. It’s not fast at all lol. No one would buy that frontier anymore than the others

>>512046556
The 90s probes with a stick were actually a fun little car. The car industries biggest failure is caving to retarded zoomers who cant into manual transmission.

>>512046481
just buy a tacoma you fuckin weirdo
the modern hilux is just sissified luxo-truck bullshit for euroweenies and aussies

>>512046639
Premium gas does not increase performance. Whatever you heard or saw, it doesnt. It prevents knocking, and its required in some engines or else it causes damage. It has no other use. The Mercedes E500 engine requires premium, its also bulletproof. I dont bring it up because its actually impossible to find one with low miles, that isnt like 30 grand. And again, you have to pay for premium all the time.

>>512046644
the production models were pretty divorced from the concepts.

It prevents pre-detonation. Premium gas, it doesnt increase performance. Its meant for small tolerances, think Ferrari.

>>512046483
>I'm half convinced he's a jeet
Um, your flag sweetie?
>when all of his arguments fail to gain traction he throws insults
You mean like the solid arguments of anon saying 'they just haven't done the revenue optimisation modelling correctly because I say so on absolutely zero basis'
>when that fails he flexes his fancy paper wagie loicense
You mean the credentials that suggest I know more about revenue optimisation than some other retard posting on pol telling people the multibillion dollar company just hasn't done the exercise correctly and he would?
>still gets fucking dunked on by a working class leaf who barely squeaked through highschool
Where's the dunk anon. All he's saying is 'ACSHULLY THEY DID THE CALCULATION WRONG AND THEY SHOULD LOWER PRICES TO MAKE MORE MONEY BASED ON MY GUT FEELING IN THE ABSENCE OF ANY TRAINING WHATSOEVER AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF RELEVANT MARKET DATA'

>when all of his arguments fail to gain traction he throws insults
Meanwhile
>youre jewish
>youre a jeet
>youre a swarthoid
>your fancy wagie licence

>>512043455
>ford can't operate efficiently and manufacture in the us
Fakse dichotomy.
Friendly reminder every bong poster is confirmed indian now.

>>512046725
it does if the engine is specifically tuned for it. Most are not

>>512046814
>Fakse dichotomy.
It's not. If they could they'd already be doing it. Otherwise it wouldn't take 15% tariffs to make it happen. A 15% tariff suggests it's at MINIMUM 15% more expensive to perform the equivalent function domestically. That's how tariffs work anon.

>>512046840
If the engine is specifically tuned for it, and you dont use it, youre damaging your engine.

>>512046560
No I'm adopted kek.

>>512046660
No matter what you say, or advertising is used. If the hilux were allowed to compete, it would blow away that overcomplicated overpriced frankenstein messes that are made for "our" market. It's anticompetitive, and honestly is super faggy/metrosexual to me

>>512046925
Yea but youre not like Wesley Snipes/Charly Murphy black right. Youre like 70, 80% black or something is my implication. You seem to have enough smarts to troll, and across racial lines as if youre on the fence but leaning more on the black side.

>>512037598
https://www.cars.com/american-made-index/

Stellantis, Honda and GM make trucks with more U.S. manufactured components than Ford.

>>512037469
Found on road dead.

t. Bought an 89 Chev for 4g.
>Spend another 4g+paint job + undercoat.
>Have something I can fix with basic hand tools that will last 40 years.


Also metal frame body so I can use ratchet straps on the tire wheels without looking like it got hit by an 18 wheeler if it goes one click too tight.

>>512046637
>economic focus group testing and modelling
>consumer surveying
Lol. Lmao even.

>>512046925
Its funny. I hate unions, so I laughed. But I make a hobby lets call it of analyzing people, you dont seem 100% black to me.

>>512046922
>if it worked they would already be doing it
>corporate types don't invest their career into a strategy and double down to maintain their position
It's almost like you are posting from calcutta and have never worked for a real company before.
Btw you keep trying to be condescending and I'll dox the head jeet in your sweatshop office, I know how shit works their, him and your coworkers will beat you to death.

>>512046637
>every single argument he makes gets picked apart
>by a leaf wagie fucking around on his day off
>he proceeds to crash out twice as hard because he can't argue with what that leaf said
>crashes out three times harder when he gets his nose rubbed in it(the shit he took on the floor like the idiot dog he is)
How embarrassing lmao, is this the power of a post secondary education? AHHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA No wonder your island is a dying caliphate when its legacy schools are pumping out clowns like you.
>you're right we don't build businesses we're a parasitic shithole that produces smarmy retards who can only flex their bullshit credentials and crash out when that doesn't make convincing or workable arguments
lol. LMAO even.

>>512046924
I don’t do that, i’m not retarded. My truck is programmed specifically for 93. I can plug into the OBD and change it back to factory in a couple minutes if i wanted. But the ignition timing, amount of fuel, is different on that 93 tune to get slightly higher compression which means more power when combined with higher psi on the turbo. Most likely i will shorten the life of the engine but i really don’t care

>>512047178
>>512046993
>>512046925
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUSM-Gu-iuM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2278XhCy4Bs

>>512046637
>>ACTUALLY IF YOU'RE SMART AND ARE SELECTED FROM A BUNCH OF OTHER REALLY SMART PEOPLE TO GO TO ONE OF THE WORLDS TOP EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS YOU'RE ACTUALLY A SHIT FOR BRAINS AND DUMBER THAN ME
Who are you quoting?
>Yes anon you're totally correct. Every single filing for this listed company which is subject to multiple audits a year are completely fake and made up and none of these costs exist and their margins are actually 90%
>this nigger doesn't know about revisions
Oxford not sending their best
>Yeah you're right anon. They just throw whatever number out there and hope it sticks as opposed to doing literally any economic focus group testing and modelling....
By your logic there has yet to be a company who's guidance to shareholders has been off and they've all been in the green since the history of time because they get paid more than you and I?
>>UK doesn't build businesses
>You're right. It just finances and provides financial services as the financial capital of the English speaking world. The BA was also from Oxford anon. If you'd passed your SATs your reading comprehension might have been a little better.
Capital Providers=/=business
Financial institutions are allowed to do whatever they what, whenever they want, however they want because they're tied to central banking which can print unlimited resources so even in the event of a massive failure, they chop the entity into pieces and redistribute it amongst the remaining players. No other business model benefits from this advantage to the same degree so typical practices do not apply.
>>WHAT WE NEED IS MORE UNDERQUALIFIED, UNTRAINED RETARDS OFF 4CHAN TO MAKE DECISIONS, YEAH THAT'LL FIX IT!!!
>I copied lectures for 4 years from jews who havent run businesses and scored well on standardized tests so I can be taken seriously now!
I remember actually thinking this before I got into my first all hands with the C-Suite. Good times.

>>512046783
>continues to prove my point by quadroupling down on crashing out
lol. LMAO even.
>doubles down on jew market schizobabble
lol. LMAO even.
>w-w-wheres the dunk
You mean besides all my posts where I picked your arguments apart, and you ignored them because you couldn't argue your way around them?
>quintouples down on crashing out
lol. LMAO even. All your credentials and education and you got this fucking rattled. What a sad state for the bucktooth empire that was.

>>512047349
Well if TLDR if you have a fucking OBS truck it doesnt need premium. Save your money, put an intake and exhaust on it. Coils. Start doing rockers and shit. Maybe even cam it, thats why the 2500 transmission matters in this theoretical. You can fucking soup that slut up, why not slap a turbo on it. Those trucks have massive massive aftermarket potential, its very well taken care of from a parts perspective. Dont throw your money away on premium for an OBS 90s shitbox tho. Personally, when Id start using premium is in a merecedes. Lexus doesnt need that shit, a Supra doesnt need premium its a fucking 2jz it runs normal gas.

>>512047178
Cuck whites are not just race traitors, they are throwing away their legacy and the progress of humanity.
Of niggers were so great my biological parents wouldn't have been crack fiends.
I've been fucking with them since I was a kid. Especially with my brothers who are white: they'd play pretend being racist and act like they were beating me up. Then I'd get up and get angry at the 'liberal heroes', pretend to be a gaynigger and say I enjoyed it.
Another thing we'd do is I would pretend to be white and they would pretend to be black and act like people saying the opposite were crazy and that their eyes were going bad, sort of like the stick length experiment in psychology.
Sometimes I'd be the aggressor and then we'd ask anyone who cheered why they were racist against white people.
Mostly we just rode 4 wheelers, hunted and fished though.

New engines are all aluminium. The 3800 is nearly entirely cast iron. You can bring a 3800 up to 700 horsepower without even going balls deep. Why would you use anything else except a 2jz.

>>512037380 (OP)
OH NO MY STOCKS!
wait...
I don't own any.

>>512047425
That street shitter thinks there is magic dirt that makes things more expensive here.
It's just one country using slave labor and product dumping, and every retard who has facilitated behavior like that in history has helped cause wars.

You can get a Buick Lucerne and upgrade its N/A engine to 600 HP and 750 torque with a turbo and intake exhaust coils, minor internals, heavy expert tuning. It will cost you 1/5th as much as a Hellcat. Only stupid people buy new cars.

>>512037380 (OP)
On Fox News yesterday they were saying Trump should also get the Nobel Prize for Economics. Fair shout, his America Last policies are really a great gift to the world, whether its destroying the lead your industries have, defunding Terry Tao (and many others) and giving everyone else a chance, truly Comrade Nationbuilder as China refer to him out of respect as it ascends to unchallenged hegemon status.

>>512047198
>have never worked for a real company before.
How many c-suite individuals are F500 companies have you directly worked with before anon? Be honest? I'm probably around 30 at this point.
>>512047198
>It's almost like you are posting from calcutta
Says the man who doesn't know the difference between 'there' and 'their'. Lol, lmao even.

>>512047207
>>every single argument he makes gets picked apart
Where anon. 'NUHUH' isn't a counterargument. I mean for someone who was complaining I was slinging insults instead of arguments your post is a lot less argument and a lot more fantasy and insult slinging.
>No wonder your island is a dying caliphate when its legacy schools are pumping out clowns like you.
Yes anon, we should seek to be more like your great nation of Canada. A thriving, prosperous economy with such esteemed educational institutions as Conestoga or whatever billion diploma mills exist in Brampton.

>>512047425
>Who are you quoting?
The anon I replied to sweetie. Along with every other response that wasn't directed at you in my post. I know it's difficult to use this site as a 15 year old.
>>512047425
>Oxford not sending their best
Ok so you don't have a counter argument and I'd wager don't even understand the argument so you'll just make some vague ad hom. Got it.

>who's guidance to shareholders has been off
What does this even mean. Companies don't issue guidance to shareholders. Do you mean fiduciary duty?

>Financial institutions are allowed to do whatever they what,
You seem to be conflating federal banks with private and corporate lending facilities. Please read a book.

>>512047425
>>I copied lectures for 4 years from jews who havent run businesses and scored well on standardized tests so I can be taken seriously now!
I've worked with 30+ fortune 500 c-suites in my 15 year career actually. How many F500 C-Suites have you spoken with anon?

>>512046972
Tell Toyota that
Nothing is stopping them from making their hybrid crew cab short body based thirdie pickup here in the states

And yea youl need a transmission for that. But my point stands. The lucernes tranny is dogshit already its known for problems, one of the worst parts of it even if rare.

>>512047574
>You mean besides all my posts where I picked your arguments apart
Could you reference them anon? All you seem to have done is call everything Jewish and then pretend I'm Indian?
>quintouples down on crashing out
I mean it's a bit odd to accuse me of this immediately after calling Oxford a failed institution whilst posting from the land of Brampton degree mills and $2m CAD starter homes. You're not really making any arguments here anon.

>>512045460
Where do you live? I've very rarely seen Ridgelines in Ontario. I've seen more Ford Mavericks than those and that truck's only a few years old

>>512047831
>>who's guidance to shareholders has been off
>>>>>>>>>>What does this even mean. Companies don't issue guidance to shareholders. Do you mean fiduciary duty?
Masterful troll, you got a few paragraphs out of me.

>>512047831
>uses 'are' instead of 'of'
>gets on me for there/their next line
You have worked with none of them, every jeet shill thinks they are working for every company they're told to shill for.
Jeets like you also believe operational excellence to save costs is impossible and you have no choice but to use slave labor, a mentality reflected in your backwards shithole of a country.

>>512046637
>Focus group testing
Hahahahaha this nigga really went to schools for years to do a fucking woman's job hahahahaha

>>512047986
>>512045460
It depends where you live. You might notice certain cars are highly popular in your local area, as in seeing 10 cars go by and 2 of them are that model. And then you go on the highway, or to a city, and suddenly there are none. As in zero.

Then you start wondering what old people in rural areas know that city shitcunts dont know. TLDR city cunts drive Nissan, Hyundai, Kia, Mazda. Ive come to hate anyone who drives one of those car models.

>>512048111
I mean if you ask an LLM specifically including the word guidance in the prompt it's obviously going to spit the same word back at you, retard. Lol. Historical reporting is not 'guidance'. They're not guiding shareholders to doing anything.

>>512048187
>You have worked with none of them, every jeet shill thinks they are working for every company they're told to shill for.
I've led multiple calls and transactions with people who make more in a minute than you will in a year.

>>512048187
>Jeets like you also believe operational excellence to save costs is impossible and you have no choice but to use slave labor
Sorry remind me. Which company outsources the most between the UK and US? Which country has greater trade deficits?

>>512047831
>calling me out for insults means you cant insult me back
lol. LMAO even, nigger you changed the game by lashing out first, you can pucker up and suck the shit out of my ass if you think I won't insult you back, and do better at it to boot. All you had to do was be a serious person and argue back sincerely, you couldn't do that, and now I'm going to keep ridiculing you for being a pompous shitwit who does it to himself.
>A thriving, prosperous economy with such esteemed educational institutions as Conestoga or whatever billion diploma mills exist in Brampton
>t.lives surrounded by muslims and africans
Yes yes I get it, lash out as hard as you can little guy, let it all out. At the end of the day Canada is still alive and kicking, while the sun has already set on the British Empire.
>blah blah blah I have my nose uo the asses of all these other men I'm great
lol. LMAO even. You're as replaceable to them as the rest lf us are you dumbfuck

>>512047630
I understand now, adoption into a White family has to be really fucked up. I honestly wish your parents could have been real parents instead. I wish your actual biological parents warranted being trusted to take care of you, because for you, that would have been better.

>>512048492
>SAAR I WAS ON A CALL WITH ONE ONCE
To make more in a minute than I do in a year they'd have to make 200 million a year.
>unintentionally owns himself because so many uk products use US components while his country using trade barriers
I accept your concession

>>512047983
sure.
>>512045564
>>512045363
>>512044968
>>512043883
Here's a couple of posts you're going to ignore where you ignored my arguments and/or argued around them like a jew and the thread is full of you doing the same thing to other posters. Eat shit, retard.

>>512048575
I don't know, even if my parents weren't retards I'd still have grown up around niggers.
I think fishing on the lake was probably better for me.

>>512048765
it really is incredible, if he put half the effort into being a serious person as he puts into blowing hot air he might actually almost be redeemable.

>>512048492
>I mean if you ask an LLM specifically including the word guidance in the prompt it's obviously going to spit the same word back at you, retard. Lol. Historical reporting is not 'guidance'. They're not guiding shareholders to doing anything.

>>512048509
>>calling me out for insults means you cant insult me back
Could you reference a single post in which I resorted to insults anon? Surely you'll be able to find one for the 30 you screeched everything was jewish or brown.

>and do better at it to boot
Literally all you've done is call things jewish or brown. Really top drawer stuff, anon.

>Yes yes I get it, lash out as hard as you can little guy, let it all out. At the end of the day Canada is still alive and kicking, while the sun has already set on the British Empire.
>OXFORD IS FAILED INSTITUTION
>well isnt Canada just full of diploma mills
>YEAH WELL YOU LIVE SURROUNDED BY MUSLIMS
Could you tell me what the ethnic make up of Canada is? And then tell me what the ethnic make up of the UK is? With statistics please. I know you won't though.

>>512048765
>To make more in a minute than I do in a year they'd have to make 200 million a year.
I mean we did sell the company for $1.5BN so I suppose yeah, I did make them $200m a year.

It was 30 C-suites anon, not once. Keep up. A typical transaction probably involves twice weekly contact for 6 months with the same individuals as well.

>I accept your concession
You still haven't told me how many F500 Csuites you've interacted with.

>>512048810
>Hey anon can you link me some of your arguments?
>every single post is just jewish jewish jewish
Were those really the best you could find? I mean the first one is literally just 'stop being a jew' and then 'you didn't have to tell us you're jewish'.

What was it you were saying about losing arguments and resorting to slinging insults?

>>512048941
Jeets are even worse at math than my nigger ass. That's all it is. He keeps getting btfo and stops talking about the previous contradiction and brings up something new and irrelevant. He thinks lying like this is intelligence.

>>512048974
Literally nothing in your screengrab disputes the fact if you ask an LLM using the word guidance it will give you that word back in its answer. Or my point that historical reporting is not guidance.

What you seem to have highlighted is an LLM, that you specifically asked about guidance, reporting that future projections are guidance, in line with your prompt.

Are you stupid?

>>512037469
Absolutely. They put too much bullshit in these trucks now, alot of it is emissions garbage, but also who really needs all these sensors on the sides of the vehicles? It's stupid.

>>512049028
>sextouples down on proving me right
Thanks for your consession mate, it was fun.

btw, picrel is you.

>>512049096
>blah blah blah b-b-but muh llm
your brown is showing

>>512049028
>1.5 billy deal
>doesnt understand guidance
Do you know what any of the following terms mean?
>Beat
>Surprise
>Forecast
>Consensus
>Estimate
>Actual
>Revision
This is anon in his 1.5 billy megadeal meeting
>SAAAAR WAT DO U MEAN GUIDANCE WAS OFF SAAAAAAR U MUST REDEEM FOR 3 BILLION SAAAAAR WHAT U MEAN OUR PROJECTION WAS WRONGGG BLODY BICH BASTARD

>>512049083
>He keeps getting btfo
>He thinks lying like this is intelligence.
Literally all you've done is tell me I'm lying and creating a fantasy I'm Indian. You haven't presented a single argument beyond NUHUH. See:

>>512046814
>every bong poster is confirmed indian now.
>>512047198
>It's almost like you are posting from calcutta
>>512047765
>That street shitter
>>512048187
>Jeets like you
>>512048765
>>SAAR
>>512049083
>Jeets are even worse at math

Literally. Every. Single. Post. LMAO.

>>512049194
>consession
Lol

>>512048873
Maybe youre right. I strongly prioritize identity. You probably cant tell but I was initially trying to troll to somewhat while also being curious. As if a 100% black isnt capable of pretending to be a union worker for lolz. When you said youre adopted, I didnt get it. But you re-enforced the idea and repeated it, and then I actually stopped to consider the implications of that, along with the story of your - brothers. And theres some thoughts I wont say out of actual respect at this point, since you seem nice enough and I dont actually want to troll you now. Id just ask you to consider what it would be like if you had black parents, who told you about "the black experience" - not as if you havent experienced it yourself, just you wont get that from White parents, since they are obviously not black. I believe in parents raising their kids. Even if theyre not amazing parents, especially if the alternative is another races parents raise them. Im sure yours were over the line, obviously you ended up in that situation for a good reason. I just wish it wasnt so. Yea it was probably the best of a bunch of bad outcomes. Im sure youre a great person, sounds like you had a playful nature imparted on you which is a positive. It just seems so unnatural, thats not what was supposed to happen. Stay Safe.

>>512039591
>B-b-but your flag!
The complaint of someone with no actual opinion.

>>512049392
Anon can you get an LLM to tell you a company issues guidance WITHOUT explicitly using the word guidance in the prompt?