Libertarian Theory Is Wrong - /pol/ (#512041658) [Archived: 228 hours ago]

Anonymous ID: YYEgsZJwUnited States
8/2/2025, 5:12:47 PM No.512041658
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Libertarianism claims that money is an emergent market phenomenon derived from just voluntary exchange, and that capitalist profits emerge from money when entrepreneurs create value for society, and are therefore also just.
Their entire theory is the state merely creates waste, like a parasite, and abolishing the state will allow the emergent "free market" to operate optimally.
This is all totally wrong.

Money is not in fact emergent from organic trade. Systems of barter allowed for informal, tacit arrangements where debts didn't have to be settled with precision, which is the function money provides.
The only time precise debt settlement was needed was with the weregild, the blood money to buy out of a family feud. This weregild concept was extended to pay off warlords in the form of protection money, which then became taxes.
With the introduction of the state and taxes, money finally became universally valuable. This in fact increased trade beyond the issuing state's political control, but the value of money was premised on it being redeemable for taxes at the end of the day.

Pre-money was also protection money, but more informally within local class structures, trade between distant wealthy petty chiefs.

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8/2/2025, 5:14:31 PM No.512041768
>>512041658 (OP)
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Please stop no one is going to read it
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Anonymous ID: OR2y7c+4Greece
8/2/2025, 5:15:42 PM No.512041848
>>512041768
Yeah everyone knows lolberts are retards
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Anonymous ID: MAqg4JYLIsrael
8/2/2025, 5:15:59 PM No.512041864
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>>512041658 (OP)
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Anonymous ID: YYEgsZJwUnited States
8/2/2025, 5:16:22 PM No.512041888
>>512041658 (OP)
Wealth is not moral or just under property theory. This is a lie.

Anglo-Saxon property theory divides a tribes wealth into personal estates and the commons. This is in contrast to state communism bronze age agrarianism. Even so, within Anglo-Saxon property rights, the establishment of household estate wealth depends on an interrelationship between the private estate and the commons. Men provide common defense to the Anglo-Saxons rights - a commons in itself - and the general commons of the tribe.

The issue is that wealth needs to be defended. Any wealth that exceeds what an individual man could produce with his own labor becomes the target of other men who can use their labor to steal it. You have to be able to personally defend your own wealth.
Anglo-Saxon morality combats brigandry through collective defense, but this would break down if one guy in the tribe is massively rich and enforces shitty exploitive usury or landlord fees with a permanent game theory advantage.

Lockean capitalist wealth is Jewish AF, and has no moral basis.

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Anonymous ID: MqR1nYcCGreece
8/2/2025, 5:16:47 PM No.512041911
>>512041658 (OP)
Everyone with a brain knows money are produced and controlled by central banks in every modern country except North Korea. No wonder everyone who isn't a banker or a puppet of bankers is so poor.
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Anonymous ID: YYEgsZJwUnited States
8/2/2025, 5:16:56 PM No.512041924
>>512041768
>memeflaggot encouraging illiteracy on /nupol/
realanons do actually read.
Anonymous ID: YYEgsZJwUnited States
8/2/2025, 5:21:25 PM No.512042210
>>512041888
Private wealth is not "property" and it's not just under entrepreneurial merit. It's a privilege the state extends to oligarchs - defending, establishing, enforcing their wealth - and in turn the oligarchs provide unified support to the state.
In fact, it takes national debt tied to taxation power to create the "debt treadmill" that forces the entire economy to "keep up" or lose value. Capitalism as we know it depends fundamentally on the state, and there's no anarcho-capitalist world without the state. Private wealth capitalism won't function without the state, without coercive taxation of the labor class which is made desperate for capital through a permanent game theory disadvantage.

An alternative would be something called commons or community equity capitalism. Where capital is owned by community groups, for the benefit of the community, where covenants manage the divide between how that wealth is spent on the commons versus being retained for private exchange by households.
These communities then must cooperate with each other to do investment, and risk is with the "lender" not with the borrower when it comes to investment, making capitalism slower and more conservative, but resilient to the pressure of the "debt treadmill" and ultimately more value driven.

Debt capitalism forces cost cutting. Equity capitalism forces quality improvements. All value in market economics comes from either cutting costs or improving quality.
Anonymous ID: YYEgsZJwUnited States
8/2/2025, 5:24:24 PM No.512042413
>>512041911
>>512041848
Wouldn't it be helpful to understand things in greater detail?
Anonymous ID: YYEgsZJwUnited States
8/2/2025, 5:25:16 PM No.512042464
>>512041864
Private wealth capitalism is the foundation of Jewish power. You can't survive without it. You would have to form communities, actually work and compete, without it.
Anonymous ID: LSizq5qSUnited States
8/2/2025, 6:02:55 PM No.512044794
>>512041658 (OP)
Libertarianism is glownigger propaganda. Always was.
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Anonymous ID: YYEgsZJwUnited States
8/2/2025, 6:05:02 PM No.512044941
>>512044794
I've been learning that.
A fascist alliance between a moral, strong, but limited central government, and thousands of small, independent communities, united by race and nationhood, faith, is what they're always trying to dismantle.
Anonymous ID: YYEgsZJwUnited States
8/2/2025, 6:09:15 PM No.512045227
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Fucking /nupol/ fucking day time USA quality of poster and commenter. America is fucked.
I'm convinced all the quality people have left.