before taxes tho

>>512044204 (OP)
Big money bro

And are you producing back 36k worth of value for the rest of society?

>>512044204 (OP)
As a cat?

>>512044204 (OP)
Ooo look at Mr Moneybags here

>>512044297
No mid income person wants to answer this question.

>>512044297
Value?

>>512044204 (OP)
I earn 62k a year before taxes

>>512044204 (OP)
That was the salary I started at in 2007.

>>512044204 (OP)
i earn 70$ an hour

>>512044245
do you work part-time? I earn more than you do

>>512044353
I just want to keep my jew daycare job as long as possible before AI makes me totally useless so I can eke a pittance off my Nvidia stonks

>>512044204 (OP)

>>512044273
>>512044297
i should get more desu

>>512044297
>And are you producing back 36k worth of value for the rest of society?
who cares? millions of foids produce less and earn more. so why shouldn't I?

>>512044503
More money, more problems. Just be comfortable with no stress.

>>512044438
Pharmaceuticals merchant?

>>512044353
I earn 5x that and I produce 0 value to society

>>512044204 (OP)
I make 110k a year, but I never had a gf.
:/

>>512044793
Whats holding you back anon, where is life going wrong

I was making 80k a year for a few years but quit 2 years ago and have never been happier just enjoying life

>>512044204 (OP)
>earn

OH NONONONONO

>>512044353
No 6-figure earner wants to answer
A competent, friendly, and polite retail worker is worth more than a degree-mill doctor saar and his middle-management superiors,

>>512044204 (OP)
XD ur cat is funy

>>512044204 (OP)
Bullshit
post paycheck stub or fuck off with your rich man larp

>>512044204 (OP)
I'm making close 30k net in this shithole, but soon enough will make close to 50k net once I get all my certs and paperwork.
According to all income statistics that would put me in like top 5% bracket and I get taxed out the ass for it. Compared to rest of civilized europe I'm fucking poor, even making 50k.

Good thing is I can work as a contractor couple years down the line and earn actual EU wages, like close to 8k-9k a month, but it's going to be long hours and a lot of job hopping.

More than what I make ($0)

>>512046640
I make 170k a year and the question unfortunately pointless. I make the competitive salary for a software engineer in a startup with my experience.
The company sells wine. Is that helping society out? Maybe? Am I responsible father and husband making sure that I'm getting paid as much as I should so that my family has the best life possible? Yes.

>>512044931
Nobody likes me on dating apps, and on the off chance they do, they ghost me long before I have a chance to even meet them.
I didn't exactly have a social life growing up either.

>>512047271
Sometimes it feels like I exist to be gaslit.

>>512047271
Here in Latvia once women find out you make over 100k, you would get your dick sucked in any bar's toilet as long as you promise to take them with you to america.
I know one slut from highschool that found a military guy and moved to NA with him. If only he knew the stories of her, but I guess in his eyes she was an innocent, pretty eastern european trad wife. KEK

>>512044204 (OP)
I make $50k, but could as well make 0. Taxes, rent and food. Then the money is gone.

>>512047470
But I'm not looking to get my dick sucked, I'm looking for my soulmate...

>>512044793
go for cute transgirls. they're better anyway.

>>512047595
What you are probably looking for is a cute girl AND a soul mate in the same person.
I guarantee that you are not looking for a match appropriate to your SMV, you are looking for a cuter girl than you can afford if you will.
That's why it seems so hard. Realistically, your soulmate could be a 4/10, 5/10 looking girl, she would make you happy.

>>512044204 (OP)
Me too bro, but a little bit more. I think for Finland it's really good, i think like 50% of all people make substantially less than this.

>>512047814
I don't require anyone any more attractive than I am.

>>512044245
so you are lower middle management who still has to do work and is being supervised ? ok

>>512047737
... there are over 90,000,000 white women in the United States. I feel like I should be able to have a gf.

I make $56k but I deserve at least double that

>>512044408
very cool unc

>>512044408
30k cad is like 15k usd so it checks out.

>>512044204 (OP)
You have posted a thread that is off-topic. This thread is not about Politics. This board is for world events and light political discussion, not personal finance. Delete this thread immediately!

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>>512044408
WARNING: Replying to off-topic threads is against the rules. Best keep this in mind if you don't want to lose your posting privileges, around here. And they *are* privileges, not rights. Got it?

>>512048512
how did u mass reply ive been wanting to do that again ever since they restricted it to 5 posts please tell me how

>>512048602
they upped the limit to 10 lol

>>512044204 (OP)
Thats a little bit low compared to what google says the average salary is in germany

>>512048097
well... you have to look near your area. go out. go to a bar or club. talk to girls. forget about dating apps. that shit leads to nowhere and long-distance relationships suck.

I earn 80k. I used to earn 150k but got fired because I filed a grievance with our Union over wage theft.

I am filled with burning hatred and anger.

>>512048097
>over 90,000,000 white women in the United States
And they're all fat fucking pigs.

>>512044204 (OP)
That's pretty good for a cat.

>>512049428
No

>>512049535
They are fat diseased feminist misandrist non-white mutt pigs.

Im 29 and Im making 49k eur before taxes so Im already considered rich for spanish standards kek. Most young people here are making 25k tops.
My friend (who worked his ass off, ngl) got a job in switzerland and is now making 250k. He is saving a ton so he can retire in spain with his family in his early 40s. Idk why anywould would wanna come back to this shithole of a communist country but hey.

>>512044204 (OP)
from now on im calling myself "european middle class" it sounds much fancier than poor. 50k p/y.

>>512050038
if you want to know what he makes after taxes: https://www.brutto-netto-rechner.info/

if he's a lone incel it's steuerklasse 1.

>>512044204 (OP)
I make 72k after taxes.

>>512044204 (OP)
After takes I take home 41k. My girl takes home 31k.

Combined we can barely afford to live and save a small amount. I have no idea how poors are surviving except relying heavily on welfare.

Meanwhile niggers get free or reduced housing and ebt. I fucking hate this faggot country.

>>512047595
My girl is my soul mate and offers to suck my dick if I don't simply tell her too for too long. She was actually a "lesbian" who got divorced a couple years ago. Low dick mileage.

It's fucking hilarious to me that as the economy worsens were going to see lots of "lesbians" suddenly remembering how much they enjoy cock (that owns a house and makes money and doesn't have innumerable "health issues" and depression etc).

>>512048512

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Hey janitor, quick question: Where in that post did I say I reported anyone? Hey janitor, another question: did I say that I saged the thread in that post? Suck my cock janitor you faggot nigger

I hope you get shot

>>512044204 (OP)
But you get low rent, no healthcare expenses, and low cost healthy food

>>512044204 (OP)
I 1 up you a fluffer

>>512050639
>low rent
not as bad as in the us but you'll rope if you earn 3k and live in a big city or near a big city.
>no healthcare expenses
depends but mostly yes. the only thing you might pay here is dentist stuff.
>no healthcare expenses
food prices here have been exploding since corona. not as bad as the us but we are on our way.

>>512050399
This is a problem in most western countries.
Here we have sandniggers from morocco that perfectly abuse our welfare because of the way the system works which is based on the overall income of a family divided by the amount of people that belong to that family.
Since their women dont work and they have tons of children, they are elegible for many gibs and subsidies that most Spaniards can´t aspire to because usually in a couple, both the men and women work.
It is unironically not worth it to have a job here unless you make well over 40k in my opinion. The neets get rewarded while people who do work and companies get taxed to death.
Your niggers at least speak some form of english and you can own a gun and shoot them. Our sandniggers can´t speak spanish and we are defenseless against them because we can´t get a gun and they carry knives and act in gangs.

>>512044204 (OP)

I'm worth more than 20x of you. How does that make you feel?

>>512044204 (OP)
i earn $10,000/year

>>512050969
How much do you need to live in small town/rural areas?

>>512051155
no clue i live in a big city and i earn a way more than op. but you could check out
https://www.immobilienscout24.de/
to get an overview of what you get. you'll need to translate the site though. it's a site for people looking for an apartment to rent or buy.

>>512044204 (OP)
I "earn" less than a third of that and have the same living standard as (You)
Had to ditch the car and gf but life is peachy

>>512051155
oh and we differentiate between "cold" and "warm" rent. cold rent is basically rent for a house or apartment exclusive of heating and other additional costs. warm rent is basically what the average person in that apartment usually paid (includes heating, etc. but not electricity).

>>512051053
Yes you are so insecure you’re recognizable as swissjeet who is always here

I earn $88k per year

>>512050749
I've never seen a white mag before, and I'm pretty racist.

>>512051707

Since im unable to shit on the streets i shit in nahtzee mouths.

>>512052244
so the desire to shit in the street is insatiable for the average indian diaspora?

>>512052347

You gotta do what you gotta do bro bro

>>512051953
>ite mag before, and I'm pretty racist.

Its in dollar tough; so converted to euro rate you're at 76k without pension and social security

>>512052244
>>512051053
I was miserable before I got money. Now I'm still miserable but more comfy.

Does Swissjeet agree?

Hah! I make 27k a year.

>>512052505
80k isn't even that much in America anymore. Not trying to demoralize or anything.

But that's literally 60k after taxes and houses are half a mil here. You need to be making above six figures to live a good upper middle class life now.

>>512052423
at least you own it, good on you poo bro.

>>512047470
Imagine wanting to leave your country for Niggerville, JewSA

>>512050399
Where do you live? I make $34,000 before tax and my girlfriend doesn't have to work at all, although she does anyway for spending money and so we can save more. Granted I own my house free and clear so I don't have to pay rent but another $1,000 per month wouldn't break our budget.

i live on about 300 dollars a month. the rest i save so someone can come along and take it from me (legally) in a court of law.

>>512044438
giving 50 cent blowjobs

>>512053393
>>512053539
You shouldn't make money to continue living. You should make money to invest so you won't have to keep working

>imagine actually wagecucking until you're 65

I make 40k after taxes, social security boomer life support, and health/dental/life insurance and live in the sticks. I think boomer life support should not be a mandatory payment. Let them die.

>>512051297
>>512051575
looks comfy. this would go for at least $2k/mo here in the midwest. You guys get raped on utilities though.

>>512044245
:(

>>512053719
i am too low iq to make a lot of money.

>>512053864
No you just lack confidence

>>512052578
Nah u a pampered little bitch bro bro.
I send most of my money back to my senpai in India (95%) and the rest I use to buy whatever I want. I eat out every day which comes to around 80-100 USD per day and I pay for deliveries every week (150-200 USD, mostly generic stuff).
Nobody in my senpai will ever have to grind for stupid meme exams or work ever again in India. Can't say I'm miserable geg

>>512053923
there is something wrong with me, i just know it. you know it, too.

>>512054032
>I eat out every day which comes to around 80-100 USD per day and I pay for deliveries every week
Fat fucking pig. If you aren't actively working towards a Herculean physique don't even talk to me.

>>512054066
I don't buy it

>>512053765
comfy but if you earn 3k before taxes like op as a single (non-married) guy you will have 2.052,00 € left after taxes (picrel - https://www.brutto-netto-rechner.info/ ). nobody is going to give you that apartment. most people want you to have a net household income of at least 5 times the cold rent (kaltmiete). also electricity is not part of that warm rent and we pay a lot for electricity. probably the highest electricity prices in the world. also never get an apartment in the roof area/top of the house. we don't have AC here. you'll die in the summer.

>>512044297
People pay $200 per service for services my company thinks should take me only an hour. Therefore I produce $200/hr value for society. But I only get $18 of it.

>>512054629

1. Bind the customers to you
2. Tell your boss to give oyu a araise
3. If he doesn't start your own company and cater to the customers from (1).


That's essentially what i did with my own company geg

>>512054699
I want to anon, I keep thinking about different aspects and writing down essentially a business plan. But the issue is securing the customers. The way people are in my area, word of mouth and maps reviews and social media whatever shit could spread me pretty quick, but I feel like getting my first 50 jobs would be the hardest part.
(and ofc there's gas and tools and all kinds of shit that actually justifies why my company charges so much for my labour and why I get so little, I know).
Have a relative going to school for business, might slowly work with them on getting something actually going. But economics of it all is still scary.

>>512052732
I love this picture

>>512054309
avrage alman wage is somewhere between 2k to 3k net. vermieter roughly know this

>>512055037
if you rent they know your exact income because you will show it to them. you'll also have to prove that you have a good debt score (schufa score). additionally he posted an apartment near munich so 2 to 3k net does not apply.

Ahhhh feck, I make what I make and I take what I take and I don't bake... but decently I need a break!

I am becoming desperate to retire asap, can't because I have Nothing.

>>512044204 (OP)
I make about 37k (USD, pretax) and it's poverty tier. We're not all gonna make it krautbro.

>>512052128
Issa p mag.

>>512054309
what type of job do you need to have to bring in 70.000 euro/yr?

>>512047054
>The company sells wine. Is that helping society out?
It's at least something the public wants and would pay for out of their own pockets.
It's not making $100K+/yr designing bus stop ads with government money.

>>512044204 (OP)
That's pretty good money or an overweight housecat. Meow Mix commercial residuals?

>>512054629
Depends on whether you own the equipment, tools, and invested in marketing.
I perform drug tests for example, but my company owns the liquid chromatography instruments which cost $300,000 per unit,
perform the maintenance, the chemicals,
so really my contribution is the energy and time to operate the equipment they have.

>>512056100
in germany you'd have to have at least a bachelor's degree in something in demand like engineering, IT, finance, etc. for example my ex-gf who is a public accountant makes 150k per year (before taxes) and works for a big law firm in a top role. in other words you'll need to be highly educated and in a senior role in your field to actually make 70k+. op is basically earning what the average german earns i think. he is probably not educated and has a role that involves no management, real thinking or specialization.

>>512044366
You can't put a price on spreading antisemitism online.

>>512044245
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>>512054309
What's the point of listing income before applying taxes to it? Are we all supposed to know the exact percentage for your income bracket and your country/province?

>>512056897
>he is probably not educated
Business B.Sc. (2.2)
RWTH-Aachen

Hurrah for unskilled labour and being a nepo hire

>>512044204 (OP)
I pay more in interest on my home loan every year. Who is the bigger retard? The absolute state of jewry.

>>512057599
you're either entry-level or bullshitting. even for entry-level in a small company this is too low. i mean your grade isn't exactly competitive but i still feel this is too low of a salary.

>>512058268
>you're either entry-level
yeah
>even for entry-level in a small company this is too low
It's way better than the previous warehouse job I did with foreigners at Picnic for a slave-tier wage. Plus, I'm tired of getting rejected.
One-year limited contract, no home office, 6-month probationary period and 2-hour daily commute btw. but I don't care anymore. It's good enough for now.

>>512044204 (OP)
I don't earn a penny, but Social Security and investment income should pull in about 80k or so a year, maybe 100k if the economy is up. Last year, it was about 40k. I'm still figuring out how this is going to work.

>>512044204 (OP)
The crazy thing about my career is that the more useful to society my job was, the less I made.
>accountant at a nonprofit: $45k
>accountant at a private architecture firm: $75k
>accountant at a wealth management fund generating 4% returns for billionaire clients: $140k
Economy is fake

>>512059441
this is how it has always worked.

The people who actually work to make society function MUST be underpaid otherwise the parasites will only get crumbs.

>>512053719
I do invest lol, that's the only reason we even can think about retirement. The economy is just collapsing in slow motion, and you can't have a society where most people are retiring as crypto millionaires in their 40s at the latest. It wouldn't be allowed even if it were technically possible (it's not.)

>>512047814
>your soulmate could be a 4/10, 5/10 looking girl
You're not finding a soul mate in that range unless you also enjoy sucking dick. The 4s and 5s are nearly universally ruined by Chads they deluded themselves into thinking they could lock down.
>she would make you happy.
Until she gets bored, then resentful, then divorce rapes you.

>>512061855
brother i see solid 7/10 white guys going out with 2/10 sheboons now its over

I'm at like 135k for this year so far (~80k after tax) took maybe a month and a half off for vacation too. It really don't feel like it though but I've also been yeeting 7k a month into stonks

>>512063059
whats even crazier is that with that income you'll still never be able to afford a house lmao

Canada is JUST

>>512063326
Seriously, I live 2 hours out of the city areas in a town of 7k people, no town around me within an hour drive with more than 15k and houses are still 500k minimum for a starter fixer upper, I mean I can afford to go in on one but it's absolutely not worth it at the moment, can only stomach to rent for another year or two though I fucking hate landlords.

500k a year after tax and working from home, get my work done in 2 hours and just relax for the rest of the week

>>512044204 (OP)
That's minimum wage in my city.

I earn nothing and never went to college, I'm 30 btw

>>512065366
youre good. theres more important things

>>512044204 (OP)
Thats a fuckin joke bro. Is that all the fuck more valuable you are to your people?

>>512044204 (OP)
I earn around 50k burger pesos per year. Good for huezil standards but that's about it... I feel like a fucking failure. Good looking cat though very cute.
>>512047888
What's the point of being a high earner in a socialist country? At least I can cope from the fact that dividends here are tax free. Had I been born in binland I would just buy a small house by the lake, fish, hunt and maybe become a beekeeper. Your nature is oristine enough and your countryside is still safe enough for that.

>>512049428
I legit fell in love with an amish girl when I did a roadtrip in the US. She was already married but holy fuck if she was single I would drop everything and come live with her in the fucking sticks or whatever. The US still has a lot of pretty women. Granted, if you live in a big city and you are looking for a wife (unless she is sub 17) you are a retard.

I have a hard time getting a raise and job hopping in this economy is not possible anymore.

>>512044204 (OP)
You earn as much as a doctor or lawyer in the UK

>>512044204 (OP)
Damn pretty good as a cat

>>512044204 (OP)
more like 36kG a year!!!11

>>512044204 (OP)
I earn 0 a year.

>>512044204 (OP)
Have you considered developing a drug addiction?
That would motivate you to pump those numbers up.

I earn ruck all ndet master race

Is that number static ?