English is retarded.

john will saw a man on the mountain by using a telescope

>>512045498 (OP)
John saw a Jew on a mountain raping kids with a telescope.

Yeah but it means almost no grammatical case dependent endings to memorize

>>512045498 (OP)
What if the telescope was a Japanese girl?

>>512045498 (OP)
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
>Sweden can't into context

>>512045498 (OP)
>john saw a man on the mountain, went there and saw the man in half with a saw, while another man saw all this with a telescope
amateurs

>>512045498 (OP)
That's why it's so accessible to third worlders.

A man on a mountain saw John looking at him through a telescope.

>>512045498 (OP)
The last one is ESL shit that doesn’t even make sense with the original sentence. As usual you Reddit fags overplayed your hand

>>512045498 (OP)
Nigger niggered the nigger on the nigger with a nigger

>>512045498 (OP)
Learn your commas/punctuation, retard.

>>512045814
She looks like a big ice cream.

>>512045498 (OP)
>sophist ne'erdowells can twist anything to mean anything else
what a succinct breakdown of leftism

>>512045498 (OP)
>Captain Kirk is climbing a mountain.
>Why is he climbing the mountain?
To make love to the mountain.

>>512045498 (OP)
idk is john some sort of pervert?

>>512045498 (OP)
oh and
>the man on the mountain
>all follow up examples are a man, a mountain
what a fookin rerard

>>512045498 (OP)
That last one is reaching, desu

>>512046607
Anon saw a nigger in the neighborhood with a stolen bike.

>>512046140
Americans are functionally illiterate. The average ESL is more proficient than 70% of your population.

>>512045498 (OP)
it's the most flexible, poetic language on earth. suck it, eslflags.

>>512045924
In the sentence "Neil and Bob", there is a space between Neil and and and and and Bob.

>>512046829
"Mup de doo muhfuggin bix nood nigga"

>Nigga, mup de doo, muhfuggin bix nood
>Bix nood mup de doo muhfuggin nigga
>Muhfuggin bix nood, nigga, mup de doo
>Muhfuggin nigga mup de doo bix nood
>Nigga, bix nood mup de doo muhfugga
Sheeeeit

>>512045498 (OP)
No, actually. What you have demonstrated may be readily ascertained to be bait for the purposes of filtering.
We are judging you by your words, that we need not judge you 6 months hence.

Americans in general, do have an incredibly poor grasp of English. The education system is failing them

>>512045498 (OP)
I'm pretty fucking sure almost every European language out there has something like this

>>512047150
"Neil and Bob" is not a sentence.

>>512046941
I need you to understand something, Mr. Moldovan.
Those that call others ESL are often projecting or functionally non-fluent despite English being their primary language.
There are cases where it is remarked correctly, but this is usually reserved for conditions where attempts at assistance have failed.

>>512045498 (OP)
am I the man he saw? I don't have a telescope.

>>512047304
>, do
Really? Did you read what you typed?
One develops their fluency via usage and consumption of literature.

english is nigger tier, literally

Everyone knows it's #1, don't care if filthy esl niggers can't figure it out

>>512047150
This would apply to any language

>>512047158

english is an anarchic language. that's its charm. it has a slightly rigid word order to make up for not having 18 stupid noun classes or whatever

>>512045498 (OP)
Whats retarded is only using a third of our available words

>>512045498 (OP)
>mountain

>>512047158
Why are you chimping out? Is there something wrong with my sentence? Can you interpret it? How do you interpret it?

>>512047410
Not Latin but yes most modern languages are retarded, not just English. What you want is a so-called classical language. They are called classical precisely because they aren't this retarded, just like classical music is more complex and refined than popular music.

>>512045498 (OP)
*flexible and capable of being deliberately layered with nuance and ambiguity

>>512047466
Why are you so verbose?

>>512047150
In the sentence fragment "Neil and Bob", there is a space between Neil, and, and Bob.

>>512047772
Muh dick, bruh. Nahmeen?

>>512045814
I'm fairly certain this is why they made Soraka throw bananas

>>512047858
Why not? Should I have stated "Jews insist Americans are ESL?"
I prefer "Jews, despite being ESL with a 6th grade grasp of English, frequently call native English speakers ESL.

>>512047658
What's the problem with 18 noun classes

>>512048257
How many of those do you really use regularly though, and how many are just special little rarities?

>>512048382
My bad, I confused it with grammatical cases. Out of the ca. 18 that Hungarian has, all of them are very regularly used (however, they are somewhat simpler than cases of Indo-European languages as most of them can just be "translated" as prepositions to let's say English).

>>512046607
It can be correct but I cant think of any scenarios where the first subject is third person.

>I saw greg at the park with his dogs
>I saw greg at the park with the dogs
>alex saw greg at the park with the dogs

>>512048785
You missed
>I saw greg at the park with your moms.

>>512045498 (OP)
Any ambiguity in interpreting this sentence would be taken care of by additional context provided by the previous and/or next sentence.

>>512048939
>I saw your mom at the park banging dogs.

John seent a man who done had a tel'scope upon yonder mountain 'n' such

>>512045991
Like you pedro

>>512047658
english, particularly old english used to be much more elegant, more grammatical cases, etc

I guess English really was meant to be a world language considering how utterly gutted it had become even before the industrial revolution

>By the time I shall have been contemplating whether I might have been being observed by the rather impertinent chap who had been lurking about the conservatory, I dare say I shall have realized that he will have been having been watching me polish my monocle for the better part of a fortnight, whilst I had been remaining blissfully unaware that my prize orchids would have been being systematically pilfered by his decidedly ungentlemanly accomplice.

Why is English like this?

>>512045498 (OP)
I saw niggers.
Niggers I saw.
Niggers saw I.
Saw niggers, I (Yoda).

>>512049111
The simplification of it began much earlier than the pre-industrial revolution era btw. When the first wave of Germanics arrived on the British isles, some changes happened already while interracting with the native Celtics, then a few centuries afterwards when the next wave of Germanics arrived (Vikings) it got simplified drastically -e.g. adjective inflection started disappearing around this time as well as grammatical cases and verb conjugation. Later it consistently got simpler and simpler, only thing that changed it a bit to the more complex direction was loaning tens of thousands of expressions from Latin, French and Greek (and often preserving their suffixing rules partially). And in the last century, it becoming a lingua franca over the world did not do good for it either, today so many people speak it imperfectly that they have become the majority and have already started transforming the language to an even more disgusting direction.

>>512045498 (OP)
English is really fucked up, but so flexible it ends up being awesome.

>>512045498 (OP)
>This is a problem
Latin literally has no sentence structure. You can put whatever word in a sentence and leave out words implied on a whim.

>>512049841
interesting to note that most dialects of english are still not classified as a separate language yet i'd venture to guess not a single average american from ohio or whatever could understand a single word

>>512047466
>Those that call others ESL are often projecting or functionally non-fluent despite English being their primary language.
Most people don't have any grasp of their mother tongue, their ability to communicate stands on shaky foundations held by duct tape and the fact that the people they interact with mostly don't know the language that well either.
This is how we have redditors calling people ESL (which they might be) for perfectly fine English.

>>512045498 (OP)
I don't disagree with you.
Now time for the superior language to make an entrance, from this point on this is a thread about how awesome the Finnish language is

yeah nice try sw*de
meanwhile you speak like a literal caveman

>>512049742
>I saw niggers in half

>>512045498 (OP)

John Johned a mountain while a telescope man.

>>512050326
based uralic chad brother

English is based and literally every foreigner learns it as a way to get ahead in their countries. Sorry no one gives a shit about your dying fairy tale language.

>>512045498 (OP)
What if the mountain wants to be on top this time?

>>512045498 (OP)
Perfectly logical. Read the 1st example with incorrect punctuation:
"John, using a telescope saw a man on a mountain."
Above is is instructing John to saw (in half) a man standing on a mountain.
The additional coma in OP will prevent a man dying and John from spending his life in prison.

John can see me mounting his wife with no scope

English is easy because you just have to use words. Grammar barely matters unless you are actually trying to become fluent. Even then, it doesn't matter much.

>>512050920
John saw me 360 no scoping his bitch ass

also the fact that English is a mix of germanic and latin languages is makes it the natural language to unite western europe
it's time to stop seething and accept the superiority of english

>>512045498 (OP)
How would John feel if he looked into a telescope through which he saw a man whom was on a mountain?
>this kills the nigger

Informationlet languages really need not apply.

>>512049111
You have no idea what you are talking about. Old English was a barbarian kitchen language that was comically inefficient at conveying information and had virtually no abstract vocabulary. In six hundred years of being used as the main language on the island before francization it produced 200 pages of literature.
Language becoming analytical was a good thing and those insisting on using the deprecated agglutination were doomed to irrelevance.

There is only one way to read this.
>John saw
John was looking.
>the man on the mountain
The man is on the mountain, hence they are mentioned closest together in the sentence.
>with a telescope.
The man has a telescope, hence they are mentioned closest together in the sentence.

Just put stuff together.

>>512045498 (OP)
It's a retard filter.

>>512050493
Swedish is pretty retarded yes. I use English most of the time for discussions, reading etc because I'm not a boomer and also because I have no life, Swedish just for communicating with workmates, reading labels etc. I'm comparing English to classical Latin which to be honest I know almost nothing about but I plan to study.

>>512050957
And that's why its retarded because grammar is not just language, it's how we structure thoughts. They deliberately suppress knowledge of grammar from the masses to make them manipulable slaves.

I don't understand why it's a problem. If you need more clarification this can be provided in other sentences. The context will be made clear in the piece of writing. Why is it necessary for a single sentence to do all the work? It isn't.

>>512049443
funny but no one would actually have been saying this sort of nonsense

>>512052364
You're a disappointment to your parents, who had believed you will have been known for have been using future perfect continuous, modal perfect continuous passive and conditional perfect continuous passive tenses since the age of 4.

>>512052279
Ambiguity is a problem in intellectual discourse/argumentation.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equivocation

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syntactic_ambiguity

>>512052660
>Ambiguity is a problem in intellectual discourse/argumentation.
I'm sure it's a huge problem when you're autistic and can't grasp context.

>>512052616
>who had believed you will have been known for have been using
*having been using

typical ESL fumbling his progressive tenses
they never learn

>>512045498 (OP)
Your meme proves that English is capable of perfect clarity with its examples.

Are you claiming ambiguity is impossible in your language?

>>512052616
>>512053034
also *would
instead of will

I fumbled it myself

I've been learning Japanese and honestly you can go fuck yourself if you think English is retarded. It has its bad point of course, but it has nothing on the homophonic hell that is Japanese. The word "koushou" has 56 definitions.

>>512053267
By the time I'm done drinking my tea, I'm quite certain you will have posted yet another impotent attempt to correct my superior English. But alas, to no avail.

>>512045498 (OP)
The list of clearer sentences makes the point that it's not hard to be specific if you want to be without arcane grammer.

>>512053377
Nothing more typical than a Westrooner trying and failing to grasp another language that doesn't play well with the """definitions""" paradigm.

>>512053701
"I'm done" sounds too informal for the vibe you're going for
should be "I have finished"

fair enough you have better english than any other romanian i've met

>>512045498 (OP)
Johnae, with a dilator, opened xer neovagina and here's why that's brave and stunning.

John, now ms Joanna
Dilated his stinky axe wound
What a dirty faggot

>>512052660
Ambiguity is not a problem, because the context can be provided in the piece of writing. The context will be made clear in the rest of the paragraph. Again I don't see the issue. A sentence is only "ambiguous" if you separate the sentence and take it as a whole thing, rather than placing it in the context with other sentences.

English is, by far, the best language to have ever been. It is incredibly versatile and has the most robust vocabulary of all languages. One may express things in English which cannot be directly translated as other languages lack the words to do so.

>>512054265
Well I have to go now but reading those two links should give you some idea of why it often is a problem. It's also something which is deliberately used to manipulate people. Suppressing grammar, logic and rhetoric from people while learning it among the higher classes is one of the most effective tools they have for control. That also makes studying it one if the most effective ways to break out of enslavement. They're called liberal arts for a reason.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motte-and-bailey_fallacy

>>512054916
>One may express things in English which cannot be directly translated as other languages lack the words to do so.
You can say the same about a whole bunch of other languages in relation to English.

>>512054937
You're autistic so you're stuck on the level where you can get fooled by grammatical ambiguity, making you think this is some huge problem. Meanwhile real people are having real discussions about real life and their problem is that reality itself is completely ambiguous.

>>512054974
Certainly, but being that English has so many more words, my point stands. Think of language as being analogous to a painter’s palette or a musician’s notes; there are simply many more precise and nuanced choices to be had with English.

Its only retarded if you cant understand nuance and proper grammar
>I need distinct and established structure cause I lack neuro-platicity and the ability to apply imagination to real time structure be it cognitive or tangible
>huuurrr how can you tell images AI
>durrrrr anon I didn't have breakfast tho

>>512045498 (OP)
g) Bazinga

>>512045498 (OP)
>English is retarded
for me it's awesome

>>512055277
How many words do you know? I'll be charitable and suppose you know 100,000 English words. German has ten million words, maybe much more. Your intellectual palette is starting to look rather monochromatic in comparison. No wonder humanity's greatest philosophers were German rather than *nglo. :^)

>>512054974
True but in so far as American English is concerned it enjoys the practice of assimilation of any foreign word that furthers the speakers ability to convey an idea. The amount of schadenfreude i get from watching people struggle with the concept is palpable.

Pen pineapple apple pen

>>512045498 (OP)
analytic languages exchange strict precision with word order + vibe/context, it's not just english, albeit english is probably the western language that underwent the most thorough analyticization

>>512055842
>rizzler gyat fanum tax
>sigma ohio skibiddi
Opinion dismissed.

>>512057167
even the gayest of slang permeates world culture to the point where ebonics is known by non-native speakers

>>512057509
>the gayest of slang permeates world
That's your entire stupid language.

>>512057699
i take it the iorny of your comment is not lost on you

>>512045498 (OP)
True but like in your language and others, while there may *technically* be 6 gorrillion ways to say something, only a few or even one are actually commonly used.

>>512057931
I take it you're a functionally illiterate Americoon and don't understand what the Greek word you just used actually means.

>>512045498 (OP)
We have long known this.
>https://ncf.idallen.com/english.html

>>512045498 (OP)
> English is retarded
Retards can't English.

>>512045498 (OP)
>the man
>a telescope
tell me you're not a native speaker.

>>512054974
This is untrue. I say this with full confidence it is impossible for you to explain otherwise.

>>512046198
fucking fuck the fucked fucking fuckers, fuck.

OP DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO USE COMMAS AND PERIODS LOL

>>512058033
i literally dont

>>512058326
Anon, please press shift before typing each letter of your sentence after the first, because your CAPS LOCK is on.

>>512058176
>I say this with full confidence it is impossible for you to explain otherwise.
And I say with full confidence that I could explain, but it would simply be impossible for you to understand the explanation.

>>512045498 (OP)
1= John saw the man on the mountain with the telescope
2= John saw the man on the mountain with a telescope
3= John saw the man on a mountain with the telescope
4= John saw a man on the mountain with a telescope
5= John saw a man on a mountain with the telescope

>>512045675
third post, best post

>>512059146
>John saw the man on the mountain with the telescope
John, on the mountain, saw the man with the telescope.

>>512058476
Absolutely flawless victory by me

>>512045498 (OP)
The first three are reasonable but the last two are totally incorrect grammatical confabulations that are either bad faith or ESL misunderstandings.

Is this bait?

>>512060081
>another functionally illiterate american
Imagine getting filtered by what you consider to be your native language...

Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo

>>512060081
>is this bait?
Anon, this is a politics board, and OP is saying English is retarded because of a,bigotry while also showing precisely how English is capable of removing ambiguity.

Please, try to be better.

>>512045498 (OP)
Is English actually relatively easy to learn or no? I struggled with learning French in high school.

>>512060263
I assume you mean
>buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo
Because what you wrote is an incoherent mess.

>>512045498 (OP)
No it isn't, you are. All of those sentences mean different things.

>>512045498 (OP)
Homophones are even better example of how shitty English is

>>512060263
That one isn't that bad. This one is more confusing: bulldogs bulldogs bulldogs fight fight fight.

>>512045498 (OP)
Language does not exist. Its just noises used to represent other things but that noise is not the thing itself.

>>512045498 (OP)
While I agree English is retarded case 4 and 5 are made up shit. Cases 1-3 are valid. Trying adding a gerund to this and it will be a bigger mess.

I smelt a dog coming down the stairs. Who was coming down the stairs? Me or the dog?

The picture itself proves that all you have to do is to rephrase things.

Still let me show a simple trick Swedish dumbass. A Russian has to explain a Swede who speak a Germanic langauage

Lookee here
I smelt a dog coming down the stairs.
I smelt a dog WHILE coming down the stairs. < a simple word fixes the confusion.

John saw the man WHILE OR WHEN on the moutain with telescope. < That's the only one that can be fixed with a word without changing anything. The other 2 cases have to be rephrased.

Is it any better in fucking Swedish? Arent all your Germanic languages this retarded?!
Don't even get me started on other retardations in Germanic languages which are plenty

In Russian there's no room for confusion. It's hard to make things ambigous. Best language.

>>512045498 (OP)
it filters out ESL foreigners

>>512047304
>>Americans, in general, have an incredibly poor grasp of English. Their education system is failing them.
Fixed that for you, retard. You can't even use your own language correctly.

>>512045498 (OP)
at least it isn't "gendered" like the retarded German, Russian, etc. languages are

>>512047304
like everything, we take something and perfect it.

>>512045498 (OP)
>small town Canada
"So I got my telescope with me the other day and I seen this guy up there on the mountain."

And they think it not to be improper tense. An example of correctly using 'seen' would be, "Some witnesses claim that the perpetrator had been seen using a telescope on the night in question."

Instead of, "Yes I saw Blaine at the concert hall during last week's SO performance," they're all, "I seen Blaine there." It's quite common where I live.

>>512045675
Was the telescope inserted into their asses or was it merely used to see them get fucked with some other object?

>>512054937
>swedetwink logicanon

not surprised you made this thread you're one the most autistic fucks here

>>512045498 (OP)
Embrace syntax. Reject grammar.

>>512060473
Nah, it's fine.
(Buffalo buffalo) (Buffalo buffalo) buffalo buffalo (Buffalo buffalo)
It's basically like "niggers niggers bully bully niggers" or "whites niggers bully bully jeets".

>>512045498 (OP)
Splergen jergen telescopen bergen flergen

>>512055632
>compound words made on the fly
I probably only know around 25,000 or so words.
A language is to be gauged in its literature and poetry, philosophy less so.
Why are you so angry and also so wrong? You need to get laid.

>>512062119
>A language is to be gauged in its literature and poetry, philosophy less so.
What a profoundly retarded statement.

>>512062432
Still wrong and forever alone.

>>512062614
>t. I probably only know around 25,000 or so words.