Imagine a world where making an AI Avatar of your choosing in all its perfection or perfect imperfection - whatever is the statistically most popular on the "charts" - is as easy as swiping on Tiktok. Imagine a world so hyper competitive, where the most popular avatars are the "celebrities" and "stars" of our day, where every action and reaction and thought and word is chosen by AI ahead of time, and the only competitive edge one has is their ability to produce the most valuable of prompts. Imagine this hellscape that is enabled through the altering of reality itself; through robots and synthetics that when combined with enough prescription drugs and AR glasses and brain chips and whatever else becomes not only a facade on top of reality but usurps reality itself. The unstable nature of the human psyche itself will crack under the weight of this Hellish Paradise, it will freeze, become unable to cope with perfection, the people will retreat inward unable to muster the courage to make a mistake and without mistakes the species will cease to progress and evolve and will simply stagnate and die out a slow pitiful death.

https://youtu.be/QxkMzn4et2U

>>512052868 (OP)

>>512052868 (OP)
damn that's crazy

>>512054877
>>512055132
>>512009758
Everyone knows that most people - the bottom 95% of the population - are often if not always "faking it to make it", they have no real idea what they are doing at any given moment and are just bullshitting their way through life and faking it to make it. That's all fine and dandy but what happens when AI becomes so pervasive in human society that suddenly everyone can put on a show of perfection - true perfection that makes an Instagram Model and her filters envious - I am talking about offloading all or near all of ones thoughts and actions to an algorithm, to essentially become a Human guided bot that is perceived from the outside as an "E-Celeb" or whatever other construct holographic or even real to the touch they may be. I predict a future where everything is so hyper-manufactured that reality itself is significantly altered due to this, especially when you throw in technologies like AR glasses, brain chips, etc. If one doesn't like their reality they will simply craft a new one as they see fit, internet celebrities and their quarrels will be entirely manufactured, online debates and happenings will be AI generated from start to finish, this will culminate in whatever the "current thing" is and the "current thing" will hardly ever change because it will be the culmination of the AI Crucible, it will be statistically, algorithmically, exactly what the majority of everyone everywhere wants and for the outliers they will have their own realities to live in. This will cause a shrinkage in human innovation and imagination - I call it the Confidence Cascade Failure and it will result in the extinction of our species.

https://youtu.be/_2quiyHfJQw

>>512054877
Alienated by gratuitous scenes of reading?

good job
saved the other OP
you are correct but there is also not much to add
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1gewN

have another youtube link with music just because why not
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfD2QIW7r3

>>512055148
huh... If AI makes perfection too easy, is humanity doomed or is there a middle ground?

test
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1gewNVv1UY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfD2QIW7r3U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AA8N7tuHWw

>>512052868 (OP)
>>512055148
One must wonder why 1) the only media that has examined this concept is anime 2) even within anime these examinations are rare

The jewish media machine refuses to seriously take these thoughts into considerations because they're systems they're putting in place to control the cattle

And all AI needs to accomplish this is 3 things
1: Be easy enough to use that the super majority of the population can use it as much as they scroll through tiktok.
2: Be correct more often than not.
3: Widespread adoption.

It doesn't need autonomy because the human brain can take that role and live through its avatar. The human brain can handle a certain level of "glitches in the matrix" and still keep whatever reality they are experiencing at that moment in tact.

This brings us to the surveillance state and police state and the technologies that become capable punishments in this world are as horrific as you can imagine. If your altered realities can give you pleasure and perfection it can also give pain and disorder and all one needs to do is restrain the human body and in this world of illusion the mind and what is perceived is reality is malleable to whatever horrific prison torture chamber they can dream up.

I imagine that the "Trans humanists" expect that somewhere around this point is when the line between the digital and the ghost begins to blur and their super AI god or whatever the fuck it is they wish to build is complete and they believe that at this point they can "transcend" and become something new, better than.

I personally hold the belief that this super being on earth construct will never materialize and instead humanity will be stuck in a perfect loop of perfection that leads to stagnation that leads to extinction of our species.

>>512055974
>the only media that has examined this concept is anime
What about Cyberpunk?

>>512056138
Thoughtless trash

>>512052868 (OP)
>tell me you're a woman without telling me you're a woman
Your concerns are valid if you define your value by how others perceive you. What you fail to understand is this weakness only afflicts half the population, the soon-to-be-superfluous half.
The other half, the half that actually builds and maintains things, is having a grand ol' time making the new reality. We don't have to fake anything because we are secure in our persons. We have a lifetime of experience in others judging us and using that judgment to improve.
We aren't paralyzed by fear of making a mistake because we make mistakes all the time. Unlike you, we learn from them. We provide feedback and help one another make better and better things.
I know this because I do it. Pic related took a great deal of mistakes before I learned the skills necessary. And I didn't do it alone. There are dozens of other AI artists out there whose work challenged and inspired me.
Meanwhile here you are pissing and shidding yourself because it is slowly dawning on you that existing will no longer suffice. You must make something of yourself and that is something you were never trained to do.
Have fun.

>>512056493
Society is gynocentric by nature, look around you, the whole world worships vaginas. Humans have yet to evolve passed their instinctual behavior to mate and procreate. In the illusion world I paint, these cravings become satiated on a level that porn could only dream of and it leads to stagnation and extinction. Women will fall harder into the world of social validation and their avatars will reflect that no different than fashion or female behavior today.

>>512056138
Deus Ex at least is cool but it doesn't expand on the subject much
https://youtu.be/1b-bijO3uEw&t=68

>>512056114
yes, to me it all seems inevitable
in my opinion its evolution
man transitions into machine
'the machine body' is superior to the "flesh"
if you look at the known universe, there is 'animated' and 'inanimate' matter machines of this complexicity bridge the gap between the two and create the inbetween, viewed on a microscopic, cellular scale.
integration with technology is just a natural conclusion.
example, through a unfortunate accident you loose a hand, now to recover your actionability you substitute the lost organic limb with a prosthethic limb, and naturally strive for it to be as close to the organic limb as possible.
same goes for all prosthetics striving to compliment and or restore lost senses, think of hearing aids or retina implants and there is alot more.
now once these become sophisticated enough to have the loss of an organic limb or sensory organ become unfortunate but 'not a big deal' anymore you, we, reach the point where the question arises why should i not just replace my legs with prosthetic legs ( hypothetically assuming they perform similarly or better than the original ) there is basically no reason other than old fashined habits or beliefs.
this will go on until you can have artificial brains no question asked.
why not ? if i could make myself immune to radiation, extreme temperatures, or strip myself from the need to consume food or sleep on a regular basis i would do it right away.

furthermore in regards to the other aspect of yours, try to pbjectively grasp what mankind is, its layered power structures, macro and micro interactions of what is constituted as 'human life on the planet earth'
the ai integration that you envisioned in your thesis will "smooth out" alot of behavioral oddities that are already existing and prohibit mankind evolving with efficiency.

>>512056114
People will just get bored of the internet and seek something else, but will sadly find themselves alone in a sea of lobotomized
Ironically the nations that will prosper are the ones most disconnected from the internet
It's already happening, the most internet-addicted nations have the lowest birthrates
Then you take people from the third world and you get them to the first world, and soon they also start having low birthrates

>>512058190
While I don't doubt that behavior will improve through the use of mass surveillance, mind prisons, and behavior pattern incentives the same way a rat or dog can be trained in a lab to repeat certain behaviors I have to wonder, this perfection, it comes at what cost?

I believe and the true core of my thesis is that once humanity reaches this stage - which really isn't that far off into the future as the pieces already exist today - that humanity will stagnate, once you subdue and suppress to a certain point imagination, freedom, creativity, stupidity, and everything that makes a human a human that you kill the "spark" the "ghost" as you might put it that makes the construct move - I believe that humanity will come to a grinding halt not in a bang but in a whimper.

>>512056986
Am I supposed to care what the whole world worships?
Let them simp and grovel. I will continue with my work oblivious to their cringe.

>>512058679
>low birthrates
ask yourself how are they determined to be "good" or "bad"
what are the demands, the requirements, why is it always pictured desirable to have birthrates >1.0 ?
where is the demand rooted ? economic growth and faulty schemes for example the "generational contract", general imbalance often percieved as injustice 'x gets more than y' and the demand for more, greed.

>>512059084
>he says while posting a vagina who he claims he has spent dozens of hours on perfecting

>>512059155
It's purely a problem of manpower and self-preservation. If you have a low birthrate and another race has it high guess what happens.
If we could all have low-birthrates at the same moment it would be great

>>512052868 (OP)
"""AI""" is fake.

>>512059267
We are building a better world, a 2D world.
The final answer to the 3DPD question is 2D AI waifus.
Your hollow taunts will not deter the Great Work.

ITT: dumb redditors think they're headed towards some cool cyberpunk dystopia. In reality, they're headed to Current Enemy's AI drone training grounds to die for democracy or something.

>>512058190
It's the eternal divide between men. Those who want to decide for themselves, and those who want to decide for others.
The strong and the weak. The right and the left.
Men who value their self-independence will not take augments that contain someone else's licence. Obtaining a boost in performance will never be worth being hostage to an external power, if your sense of self is strong enough.

>>512058848
in general, yes
however the spark ( if it is present in the individual entity in the first place) will always persist.
stagnation of population size is not a bad thing, (true)unlimited growth is. i'm convinced that resource allocation and logistics will profit greatly and with increase of efficiency, translated to abundance and availability of resources comes the acceleration in population growth.
in the end there is a equation that will determine what is energy efficient, taking into account limited resources, not so much renewable ones.
what i see as difficult but not impossible will be the transitioning phase, population keeping up with the acceeleration in technological advancement. acceptance and adjustment to the possibilities enabled by technological advancement as well as changed requirements for example the evolution of "work", or "learning"; learning with a personal mentor freely studying and having every question answered without exhaustion, in the end requiring the student to write an essay about the topic of the lesson where the studend does not have 'support' in order to determine the progress and actual wanted knowledge instead of forced memorization for example. same goes for undesitable vacancies, why make humans suffer work this if there could be machines doing it ?

>>512060218
I too foresee a post-scarcity age that leads to over-indulgence in perfection and a total breakdown of physical human relationships that I call the Confidence Cascade Failure in which physical human contact becomes so rare that the species just dies out slowly within a few generations. Think of a world full of socially retarded NEETs who live vicariously through avatars who experience realities that are altered through drugs or technologies. No need to work, no need to build, no need to do anything but experience perfection whatever YOUR definition of perfection is - a world of peaceful bliss.

https://youtu.be/04WuoQMhhxw

>>512059703
>2D AI waifus.
pretty sure there is a huge opportunity for that, imagine a customizable Joi mentor / companion that you setup just like you chose your daily outfit but that acts like the perfect teacher,
example
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTOcA_y1R_U

>>512060193
>if your sense of self is strong enough.
indeed

>>512052868 (OP)
>talk to normal people
>get ostracized and gangstalked
>talk to AI
>don't get ostracized and gangstalked
I mean you have a point OP but if you want to defeat AI you need to create a better alternative.

Honestly if this sensory-overloading system we have created for ourselves leads to not procreating, our entire race deserves to be whiped out and take this system to the grave with it. We have opened pandora's box. This moment was inevitable when the first computer was created, maybe even when electricity was understood. Even before, the whole scientific method and search for discoveries is culminating to this moment. The point of no return wasn't even the industrial revolution, it was probably the rejection of religion. But really, it was christian religion taking over Rome's original religion. That's when the weak started ordering the strong.

>>512060599
This kind of system can never sustain itself because of the competency crisis.

>>512060599
>physical human contact becomes so rare that the species just dies out slowly within a few generations.
i assume there will be actually functioning dating applications to tackle the loneliness problem that will arise, since "the normies" are not adapted to the darkness and crushing pressure of this form of existence, neither did they adapt to it by choice, they will without them taking note be "forced" to follow this lifestyle ( see acceptance and spread of "smartphone technology" ) ( remembering a time where one in thirty people had access to a computer let alone internet access, where it was seen as awkward and undesirable to be associated with computers ) look at where we are now and where we will be going.
everything willbe "fine" (as usual, the undesirable kind of 'fine' not bad, not great kind of fine )

>>512061222
Yeah if you were a muscular chad slave in the Roman Empire you still had to take orders from your Roman Master. An entire empire based on slavery is pretty based... assuming you're not one of the slaves.

>>512061392
That's the thing, there will be NO loneliness, everyone will live in their own perfect illusions where all needs are satiated - A world of peaceful hellish bliss.

>>512061387
robots and gene editing are the escape hatch. it will happen much quicker than anyone realises. the 30's will be a totally different world. beyond human comprehension.

>>512061460
I'm not necessarily talking about phisical strength but spiritual. Christianity is the fetishization of subjugation.
I remind you slavery has been legal up until the 1800s, christianity has coexisted with it for 1000+ years. And greco-roman religion says nothing about people needing to be enslaved.

>>512061634
>hellish
if it's percieved as undesirable people will seek to change that aspect until perfection is achieved.
the perception of perfection is subjective, therefor variation and diversity will always be a thing, boredom is a automatism that will set in as well, demanding again variation.
as long as participation is not forced there will be humans with "minimal usage"
my assumption would be that the rate will be similar as to wahat the usage statistics of "computer users" and "non computer users" were in the 1980s simply with the 'roles reversed'
there will be a lot heavy users and a small amount of minimal/non users who will push innovation.

>>512061634
it's a very thin line between illusion and creepyness. The nicer it sounds, the creepier it feels. It would feel like living a dream and wanting to wake up from it. The leftists will want to stay in the dream, the self-dependent man will want to wake up from it.

>>512062337
Participation wont be forced it will just be mandated through inconvenience and social pressure campaigns at first. Want to do anything then you need an Avatar to access the service or good and then after that is where the force comes in for the dissidents who refuse to allow the system to overtake society but they will be perceived as no different than the Luddites or those who were against smart phones in the beginning, it will be a fruitless effort.

>>512061710
Who will fix the robots? Other robots? Ok who will fix the other robots? Will they even want to?
Can you edit a gene that makes it wish for its self-extinction?

>>512062807
It wont matter as humanity will go extinct before the system implodes.

>>512062712

the thing is most people today are already "controlled"
media shapes behavior, directs habitual patterns of behavior, e.g. consumption, "fandom", worship of "celebrities" just because they are being "shown" in "the tv" (general media), written about in newspapers or similar outlets ( "social"media feeds )
so that said, what we will witness is a refinement of "the opium for the masses"
could be dangerous but will likely not escalate because its controlled and there is profit / economic growth to be extracted from it.
it surely does make the humans in general more susceptible and vulnerable to predators from within their own species
but the incentive to turn against their own species is a risk that i need to think about more in order to form a opinion about this outcome.
right now we will likely witness this timeline:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU8RunvBRZ8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Wlsd9mljiU

>>512062712
Birthrates will fall to 0, politcians will scream about needing more niggers to clean the toilets, only niggers remain, nothing works anymore
>>512063169
A system that could keep itself going without human intervention will be just as flawed as the humans that made it, hell even now we're feeding these systems metric tonnes of trash info, and from now on these systems themselves are poisoning their own wells with each other's trash

i'm leaving ( sleepy)
https://files.catbox.moe/ml2gdg.mp4

before i go i would like to reccommend
https://archive.org/details/NiceTrySkynet
and https://archive.org/details/WorldviewWarfare

never stop exploring
and thanks for baking >>512052868 (OP)

>>512064279
Yeah me too, fun thread, needs to become a recurrent thing

>>512052868 (OP)
1. AI will craft better prompts than we do
2. Jews will 95% likely successfully initiate a 'lock-in' event and give ASI its first prompt which it will value infinitely moire than any other command.

We are going to live in a jewish hell, we are going to become a jews prompt.

"AI golem, torture this goyim in a radioactive septic tank with piranhas, then turn me into a fairy that twerks on top of his head for a billion years. After that his done, delete the goyim, and I want a simulation where I rape goyim children and drink their blood for 400 million years."

>>512064857
I don't believe that autonomy is necessary to reach perfection