was life in USSR really as bad as Western propaganda claims it was?

>>512078871 (OP)
yes but according to russian literature it was worse

>>512078871 (OP)
most people did not want it to end and a lot of people still want it back.

there are countless cases in ukraine when russian soldiers are greeted by soviet flags by people who miss it.

>>512078957
the guy who wrote it was a kgb informant.

>>512078996
lol try harder gulaghomo

lol Warsaw, Poland already had equally as tall highrises in a similar modernist setup in the 60s already
when the spot in moscow in ur pic were empty plots at the time

we've always been ahead
and then we overthrew goymmunism

>>512078871 (OP)
No. It was worse. People have no idea what live in ussr was and if they knew they would think it's so exaggerated it's not believable.

let's put it this way, if you had the life of an average person from that time now, you would be pretty happy and feel accomplished

>>512078871 (OP)
Imagine a world where if you want a car you have to save up for 10 years. Once you have the cash, you pay for the car upfront, then wait another 10 years to get it.

However in exchange you live in a society free of homelessness, degeneracy, woke etc. Everyone gets an apartment and a job. The bus driver is paid more than the doctor. Your mother steals extra biscuits from the biscuit factory she works in to supplement her income.

>>512078871 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hcl3R-yARX8

>>512079130
look
the pimple on the arse of Europe is talking
your entire presence on this website is a joke

>>512078871 (OP)
Imagine you're a full grown adult working a job and raising two kids with your wife. But it's Friday night so you need to take your essay you wrote this week on the superiority of communism to your party meeting to have it graded.

Yeah it's kinda terrible.

>>512079340

>>512079340
>the pimple on the arse of Europe
we're the reason your east german shithole is free

>>512078957
I wouldn’t trust a self-proclaimed monarchist to impartially write the history of a communist country

>>512079410
>oy vey we wuz shoahed too sheeeeeeeeeit
It remains unclear as to why the Poles are so intent on trying to one-up even jeets in terms of jewish Kabbalah worship.

>>512078871 (OP)
Yes, you couldn't be too good or too bad at your assigned job or you got killed or exiled.

>>512079268
>Imagine a world where if you want a car you have to save up for 10 years. Once you have the cash, you pay for the car upfront, then wait another 10 years to get it.
>However in exchange you live in a society free of homelessness, degeneracy, woke etc. Everyone gets an apartment and a job. The bus driver is paid more than the doctor. Your mother steals extra biscuits from the biscuit factory she works in to supplement her income.
Doesn't sound so bad
Actually better than life for most young Westerners today

>questionthread
>memeflag

>>512079699
>It remains unclear as to why the Poles are so intent on trying to one-up even jeets in terms of jewish Kabbalah worship.
Being Kosher and trusted by the Jews is why Poland has been permitted to develop into a high-income country.

>>512079661
>we're the reason your east german shithole is free
The USSR is the reason eastern Germany and Poland remain white.

>>512080089
The only positive legacy of communism was that it made ex-communist countries too poor to attract shitskins.

>>512080165
>The only positive legacy of communism was that it made ex-communist countries too poor to attract shitskins.
But that's hugely important today, probably the most important thing in the world considering we're facing literal white extinction.
3% of children aged 10 and younger in the world are white now. At this rate, we'll either be extinct as a race by the end of this century or maybe 1% of the global population.

>>512079682
yeah, much better if we trust the government to write a report on it instead

>>512078871 (OP)
No but it wasn't as good as tankies say it was either.

>>512078871 (OP)
>that one shiny neon pic that makes you change your mind about a political system
lol

>>512080015
>Being Kosher and trusted by the Jews is why Poland has been permitted to develop into a high-income country.
I think that you cracked the case, fren. Meanwhile, they will kvetch that Germany isn't giving them enough gibs and threaten to demand more lolocaust reparations after discovering 6 million new Polish victims of the Wehrmacht.

>>512078871 (OP)
It was bad by white man's standards but slavs & eurasian mystery meat cant actually do better

>>512079410
Would the Poles like to juggle the possibility that the majority of those deaths have a similar story to the Katyn Massacre?

>>512078871 (OP)
Daily kacap spam about muh kacap shithole

>>512079340
>the pimple on the arse of Europe is talking
but that's literally russia lol

>>512080015
russniggers are simply too stupid to develop

>>512078871 (OP)
>>512078967
>most people did not want it to end and a lot of people still want it back.
I've worked with a lot of people that escaped the (((Soviet Union))). It was pretty fucking bad according to all of them. The only commie I've ever met that liked it was from East Germany and he was just on vacation. He said his job was great because he worked in a factory (surprise!) and all they had to do was make ten of product X every month. They'd get that done in the first week and then take the rest of the month off because if they made 15, 20, 25, etc. of product X, that was the new quota. Zero incentive to excel.

>>512079072
Now give your opinions on the USA's for-profit prison system being used to circumvent minimum wage laws, and American consumerism funding slavery and child labor in developing countries

>>512079661
David Hasselhoff isn't polish. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJ2Sgd9sc0M

>>512079268
So it's basically the opposite of America. In America most people can't afford houses but they can get cars. In USSR everyone got a free home but not a car.

>>512081232
They got free AIDS and assrape

>>512081152
LOL

>>512080089
that's over
polish zog is speedrunning multiculti, at this poiint it's like 75% polish
east germany is not better

the kikes that were the anticommunists in poland in 30 years have destroyed an ethnostate, on purpose

>>512080384
>No
you know shit, zoomer. It was worse than you think.

>>512081152
and what is he? hivish
ahahaha stupid kacapnigger trash you're gonna fucking die you fucking piece of shit ahahahah

>>512079682
I would. Sounds like you are just a faggot

>>512081382
HAHAHAHAHHA DIE DIE DIE RUSSNIGGER SUBHUMAN TRASH STUPID FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT

>>512078957
>foreword by anne (((applebaum)))
>applebaum
>baum
face the wall ma'am

>>512078967
>there are countless cases in ukraine when russian soldiers are greeted by soviet flags
Nice lie

>>512081887
they are greeted with ukie pussy actually, anon was just trying to be polite usin an euphemism

>>512082119
Nobody is greeting them, let alone with Soviet flags

>>512078871 (OP)
no, but you're too brainwashed to believe the truth.

>>512082635
>housing was provided based on need
3 generations living in two bedroom apartments. Shitter right next to the dining room table. Good luck getting anything repaired without finding the right guy to bribe. And that's just one of the claims on that bullshit propaganda page.

jews are afraid of communism, they own everything, a communist revolution today would be against them

>>512082829
nigger half of your country can't afford a living space TODAY and you go under the bridge if you're late with any of your payments or break a fucking leg and need some medical help
>>512082913
this, ww2 was started because of this and shills are fervent to this day because of this. this is how much they fear their private banks getting banned, like they were in USSR.

>>512083234
Don't pretend you're any better off. Hell, your drug of choice is one that you KNOW eats your flesh (krokodil). At least our white trash is just overdosing on fentanyl. And we're also not being thrown into a meat grinder over fucking Ukraine of all things.

>>512081232
Apartment not home. You'd be living in the projects.

>>512083383
Yer anon but you have niggers. Also I had a relative who lived in a USSR controlled country, they said it was good because every service was free and housing was never an issue, Most Russians back in the USSR days had two properties, one to live in for work like a commie block and one holiday house.

>>512081232
>So it's basically the opposite of America. In America most people can't afford houses but they can get cars. In USSR everyone got a free home but not a car.
I'd take shelter, guaranteed, over a car any day.
Priorities

>>512079762
>the greener everywhere else
KEK, your bedtime will be soon, kiddo.

>>512083535
>Most Russians back in the USSR days had two properties, one to live in for work like a commie block and one holiday house.
Not even close. The overwhelming majority of families didn't have the luxury of a dacha.

>>512083234
Sign the contract

>>512081232
You skipped over the rest of the detail in that post, dipshit.

>>512083734
Well people I know did. Anyway, that's still better than you.

Capitalism is shit, its led to mass migration, and is all about throwing your fellow man under hte bus to get ahead. Great. I dunno if communism is better but this isn't good either.

>>512078871 (OP)
yes and no, but the reality is that it dissolved for better or worse and it’s gone.

>>512083835
>Capitalism is shit, its led to mass migration
Our prosperity led to the Jews being able to easily convince third worlders to mass migrate to our countries.

>I dunno if communism is better but this isn't good either.
If we weren't getting flooded with millions upon millions of shitskins, our economies would still be amazing. Oddly, when you import nothing but people that are a drain on your resources and provide nothing of value, it all turns to shit, including driving up the prices of absolutely everything.

>>512082829
>3 generations living in two bedroom apartments. Shitter right next to the dining room table. Good luck getting anything repaired without finding the right guy to bribe. And that's just one of the claims on that bullshit propaganda page.
It's the same in half the apartments in the US today, or even more than half.
And the younger generations will mostly be renters.

>>512083383
>Don't pretend you're any better off
I don't need to "pretend", I live in a fucking apartment I've paid zero coins for and rent out another left from my grandma.
I have a university (not colege) education that gets me a job in any IT company in the world - for free.
3 years ago I fucked around with appendicitis and got complications. Two operations and around a week in the hospital cost me exactly zero coins, again. No complications that I know of, either.

I AM better off than the absolute majority of americans and most of what I have was made in USSR, built by soviet people for soviet people. You don't even know what it's like because your country has always been owned by kikes.

>your drug of choice
throw more CNN vomit, I'm sure it will help you cope with your sorry life under that bridge.

>>512078871 (OP)
Yes, it became tolerable after 50 years.

>>512083234
>nigger half of your country can't afford a living space TODAY and you go under the bridge if you're late with any of your payments or break a fucking leg and need some medical help
Very good point
In America, all necessities are kept artificially very expensive to keep the population desperate and wedded to their crummy jobs.

>>512083727
I'm 49 years old, bro
And all I've seen is the US get shittier every decade.

>>512084094
>your country has always been owned by kikes.
Kikes created the Soviet Union while killing tens of millions of White Russians during and after. None of us has gone untouched by those fucking demons.

>>512080803
>people who left say it's bad
>one who did not says it's good
notice anything?
as to op's question, it really depends on the period

>>512084204
>In America, all necessities are kept artificially very expensive
I saw a great vid about that recently. They pointed out that housing used to be cheap, but luxuries like TVs and microwave ovens were expensive. Now it's all upside down.

>>512080803
>get paid $20 an hour
>bust my ass
>coworker gets paid $20 an hour
>1/4 as productive as me
Soooo many reasons to excel

>>512084042
>Our prosperity led to the Jews being able to easily convince third worlders to mass migrate to our countries.
And it's big corporations that want those immigrants.
And immigrants driving up prices for limited houses, medical care etc. is also something the capitalists want and lobby for.

>>512084347
>Kikes created the Soviet Union
Yes they did, and then Stalin kindly asked them to chill, hence we not only didn't have transfaggottry, but even sodomy was illegal in USSR.
>while killing tens of millions
another CNN-skullfucked moron, all nice and washed like the rest. picrel is your source no doubt

>>512084427
This. The American economy is now just Bolshevism with extra steps.

>>512084415
>I saw a great vid about that recently. They pointed out that housing used to be cheap, but luxuries like TVs and microwave ovens were expensive. Now it's all upside down.
When people talk about how pricey TVs and appliances used to be, and hold this up as proof of how things are better today, they conveniently ignore that basic necessities are now far more expensive than they used to be, even though luxuries are now cheaper.

>>512084669
Bread and circuses. Nobody can afford to own a house now but few care because they're hooked to 4K UHD Netflix goyslop in their cramped bughive apartment cells.

>>512080803
>Zero incentive to excel.
Sounds a step above DEI makework because they at least created a useful product and planned obsolescence wasn't part of the design.

>>512084575
>all these ukros stopped eating on their own
ok, kys pidor

>>512079072
>putin is LE gay
peak r*ddit

>>512084861
The USSR had years' worth of stockpiles left over after the collapse, since the leadership believed in stockpiling in case of war.
Our just in time supply chains leave us incredibly vulnerable if there is a collapse.
For as bad as the Soviet collapse was for people, a Western collapse would be exponentially worse.
We don't stockpile things anymore - not "efficient."

>>512079762
This is what East Germans say all the time. I heard quite a good documentary about people that made radical radio plays that the regime tolerated. The wall came down and they were horrified to discover the west doesn't give free flats, food, radios, TV, cars, university education, healthcare and 7 day 24hr childcare to people that make political plays. A lot of them moved to the USSR in the end.

>>512078871 (OP)
>was life in USSR really as bad as Western propaganda claims it was?
Depends. Up until the early 70s, the standard of living was going up. Then it started going down.

>>512078871 (OP)
>was life in USSR really as bad as Western propaganda claims it was?

Western propaganda proclaimed it socialist heaven.

It was what totalitarian socialism always leads to: Envious Idiocracy aspiring to Egalitarian Stupidarchy of, for, and by the screw-ups.

>>512078871 (OP)
No it was amazing and everyone loved it and the people who didnt…well lets just say there was no one who didnt like it. And if they didnt well they just needed some reeducation on why they should.
It was a beautiful time, you never had to watch your back or worry about what you said.

>>512079072
>muh gulag
There are more people in jail in the US right now than it ever was in USSR.

>>512084042
>If we weren't getting flooded with millions upon millions of shitskins, our economies would still be amazing.
Kek. Your economy was already showing clear signs of going in the shitter in the 70s. Which is why you abandoned Bretton-Woods and let Rabbi Reagan usher you into the world of neoliberal globokikery. Ever since then it's been nothing but one too-big-to-pop bubble of deindustrialization, financialization, currency manipulation and asset price inflation. Now you're sitting on a literal Everest of cross-collateralized debt and the next financial crisis won't be a mere recession, but a bonafide end of your masonic shithole.

>>512085145
Niggers are not people

>>512084669
>>512084791
nah, look at the diffusion curves. Radios, record players, freezers and especially television were proportionally a lot more expensive than smart phones, microwaves etc. ever were once released as mass market products AND people acquired them far more rapidly.

Its actually boomer fiction that people used to be resistant to consoooooming, if anything they were far worse than we are today in pursuit of the new thing.

>>512085273
Half of prison population here are whites.

>>512085051
>The wall came down and they were horrified to discover the west doesn't give free flats, food, radios, TV, cars, university education, healthcare and 7 day 24hr childcare to people that make political plays.
Frankly, I'd probably take the basic security of life in the USSR of the 1970s and 80s, when things mellowed out, even despite the shabbiness of Soviet life, over the system we have the in West today.
I'd bet people were more pleasant in the late USSR than they are in the West today too, since people struggling to get by are often surly and dejected. Their spirits are damaged.

>>512085318
Whites or “whites”

>>512085050
Ah, the notorious "just in time" supply line.

It's not food or fuel shortages that concern me in my area, but how people will react when half the population is withdrawing hard from benzos, SSRIs, and/or opiates.

>>512085352
American whites yes. Not too many Norwegian vikings in prison lol.

>>512085229
>Kek. Your economy was already showing clear signs of going in the shitter in the 70s. Which is why you abandoned Bretton-Woods and let Rabbi Reagan usher you into the world of neoliberal globokikery. Ever since then it's been nothing but one too-big-to-pop bubble of deindustrialization, financialization, currency manipulation and asset price inflation. Now you're sitting on a literal Everest of cross-collateralized debt and the next financial crisis won't be a mere recession, but a bonafide end of your masonic shithole.
You ain't wrong. The average US recession nowadays costs around $10 trillion in bailouts to prevent the whole system from imploding. We are much closer to a Soviet-style collapse than most people care to realize. Except in the West, the fatality rate from the collapse will be much higher due to a lack of stockpiling and our just in time logistics.

>>512079410
Please also go do this is Moscow for Katyn and sitting across the river laughing while Germans conducted their anti partisan operations in Warsaw
but you wont

>>512085281
>Radios, record players, freezers and especially television were proportionally a lot more expensive than smart phones
Except they usually lasted for 15-20 years, if not more. Nowadays, the shiny appliance you buy costs much less, but you'll be extremely lucky if it lasts for more than 10 years. They usually break down shortly after the warranty expires.

>>512078871 (OP)
It was worse

>>512079268
Actually, you could take out a loan i the Soviet Union, but because the state was the lender and your employer at the same tine it would just be garnished from your wages.

>>512084427
>get paid 7 dollars an hour
>bust your ass
>you are homeless for questioning why the owner is fucking all the female employees
>coworker also gets paid 7 dollars an hour
>does 8/4ths the amount of work now that you are gone
>kills themselves as there is no way out and their quality of life keeps getting worse as the 7 dollars buys less and less, and the owner keeps threatening to replace them with a person who will work for 3 dollars a hour
welcome to the us way of life friend

>>512080803
>Zero incentive to excel.
It's not zero incentive to excel, it's no reason to overwork yourself. The only benefit from employees exceling is the company and new hires will have to work even harder than the last guy or will have to be paid less because company profits must always go up. People laugh at aztecs for sacrificing people to bring rain while capitalism is sacrificing people in the same way for some arbitrary numbers.

>>512085281
>nah, look at the diffusion curves. Radios, record players, freezers and especially television were proportionally a lot more expensive than smart phones, microwaves etc. ever were once released as mass market products AND people acquired them far more rapidly.
These new electronics have been cheaper than the old electronics (like TVs and microwaves) because the new stuff is produced in sweatshops in this neoliberal age of offshoring and 10,000 mile supply chains, not in the old American factories where workers were well paid and had great benefits.

>>512085329
Katja Hoyer paints them as very chilled and relaxed. One interesting thing she said was that while we make fun of the waiting list for cars, East Germans after the wall fell had a hard time understanding that just because something is advertised, it doesn't mean there is any chance a normal hard working person can ever have it.

Sounds obvious but kind of profound really, I mean, what the fuck are we doing actually.

>>512084094
>эникeй-paнтьe, пpocлaвляeт кaлyмнизм
Клaccикa.

>>512084948
the famines happened every single year under imperialism and for the first time stopped happening in USSR, then resumed after USSR was dismantled.
Yes, they did not magically stop it on the first day of coming to power, but it's a miracle someone decided to do anything about it at all instead of just raping those lands as it has been customary for centuries.

>>512085710
...and more importantly they don't tend to last, even the ones "made" by expensive brands. We used to have an old Elco oven from the 70s. It broke down in 2005. Since 2005 we have bought a total of 5 new ovens.

>>512085710
That isn't really the point. Its more the suggestion boomers were stoic ignorers of consumer products is ludicrous. They couldn't get down the shop fast enough. We're talking about people that rented televisions (by the minute in some cases with coin-op models) rather than go without. Who the fuck rents an airfryer or whatever it is they are blaming for people not being able to afford houses.

>>512078871 (OP)
Nope.

Not even a little.

>>512085775
дa ты бы пиcaть ceгoдня нe yмeл ecли бы нe кoммyняки, дeбилyшкa. пoдyмaй гoлoвoй-тo, кoмy ты нaхyй нyжeн тeбя бecплaтнo yчить?

>>512080803
I had a Russia coworker who blamed Gorbachev for everything that went wrong with the Soviet Union. Had he just kept communism going instead of doing market reforms, everything would have been fine. Our Lithuanian coworker called him an idiot but we was there was a child when the Baltics were under Soviet control so he might have his own biases too.

>>512085800
>we dindu nuthin
sure

>>512078871 (OP)
No, it was pretty comfy until the late 80's. I was born in the late USSR in a tiny village in Moldova SSR and the soviet union paid for my father to live and study in Kiev for a whole year, along with a stipend. He wasn't special or connected. He studying as an electrician. He was also a protestant during "atheist USSR" and not a communist party member (most people weren't). My parents have fond memories of the USSR. Recently my father told me that had he known what America really was he would have moved to Moscow from Moldova instead of the USA (that his my mom's idea, not his). He told me that when he left to America he was told my his neighbors in Moldova told him that he was "trading an empty stomach for a sick head." He says they were correct in hindsight.

>>512081152
Thought that was tom selleck.

>>512085993
Jews who want to turn you gay and retarded, comrade.

>>512085051
>free radios
>they're two way
And let's not forget your neighbors reporting you to the Stasi if you were engaged in the wrong behaviors.

>>512086235
>"trading an empty stomach for a sick head."
What a great observation/statement

>>512086280
yeah you are way better for them illiterate and extremely poor, hence they now want to replace you with indians, who are exactly that.

>>512085882
I don't think anyone is suggesting that boomers and their parents didn't coonsoom new (at the time) discretionary consumer goods at major volumes. But boomers could coonsoom and also afford necessities like housing, because their currency had 8x to 9x more purchasing power before the Nixon Shock in 1971 than today. A boomer griping about his shitty $3/hour entry-level job in 1971 was earning the functional equivalent of $24/hour in today's dollars. That, and single family homes were roughly 10x to 15x cheaper in 1971 than today, so boomers could afford to coonsoom without sacrificing necessities.

>>512085229
>Your economy was already showing clear signs of going in the shitter in the 70s.
Hart-Cellar and the Civil Rights Act in the 60s was the beginning a downturn, but it has definitely been made exponentially worse by shitskin migration. The 70s oil crisis wasn't our fault. Surprise, it was the Jews (Israel) starting yet another fucking conflict.

>>512085993
>дeгeнepaтивнoe люмпeн-гoвнo пpoeциpyeт coбcтвeннyю нeмoщнocть нa миp
Ecли бы нe кpacнoжoпaя мpaзь, copвaвшaя дeмoгpaфичecкий пepeхoд, я бы жил бы ceйчac в пpeкpacнoй paзвитoй 400-500 миллиoннoй pyccкoй импepии, a нe в cтaгниpyющeм нoвиoпcкoм oбpyбкe, зacpaннoм пaнeльным гoвнoм и тopгoвыми цeнтpaми.

>>512085543
>Except they usually lasted for 15-20 years, if not more. Nowadays, the shiny appliance you buy costs much less, but you'll be extremely lucky if it lasts for more than 10 years. They usually break down shortly after the warranty expires.
My neighbor has had two new cars suffer transmission failure within a year of their warranties' expiration. Pretty good planned obsolescence engineering.
Each rebuilt transmission was in the $6000 to $7000 range.

>>512086475
Jeets are functionally literate but unable to think without a cheat sheet, which is fuckin' PERFECT for kike-style capitalism.

>>512078871 (OP)
Cute Cunny Cheese Pizza
???

>>512086555
But its as true of our bombed-out hellscape as it was of the US. Our 1950s were not your 1950s at all.

>>512086689
>kike-style capitalism
I really don't think there's any other kind, it's always usury-banking-monopolies-wars, no matter in which country it takes place

>>512086013
One doesn't have to be a commie to blame Gorby. Almost all of his reforms were so counterproductive and destructive, it would be easy to consider them intentional sabotage. Especially when you compare it to China's Deng.

>>512079130
polish posters are so gay, you lost your entire country multiple times, you are basically irrelevant on the world stage and only exist because you are too annoying to govern directly in an imperial fashion

>>512086708
that's supposed to stay a secret!

>>512085800
>famines...for the first time stopped happening in USSR

GROW UP.

The US was sending vast sums of money and food stockpiles every few years to keep you guys alive despite your NAZI but less competent (Stalin's words) self-genocidal regime Putin seems hell-bent on reviving.

>>512078871 (OP)
this guy is really interesting. He has a ton of vids on life in the USSR
https://www.youtube.com/@TheColdWarTV

>>512086924
extremely based

>>512086814
>I really don't think there's any other kind
There has to be (/have been) or yids wouldn't have anywhere to rentseek from. Gommunism sure as shit isn't producing anything to skim off.

>>512078871 (OP)
the Beatles wrote a song about it what more do you need?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nS5_EQgbuLc

Me? No idea. Never met anyone from the soviet union nor do i know much about the soviet union. I do know they develop quite an athletic/sports development program what was pretty cool.

>>512080803
Many of the people "who escaped the soviet union" were people of low cultural and intellectual potential. This accounts for many of the Russians, Ukrainians and Belarussians living in America.

There is a reason why America took in radical protestant immigrants overwhelmingly from the USSR -- that's because USSR evangelicals were already pre-baked Americans with the same dedication to anti-intellectualism we see rampant in America. They are born fox news watchers who don't question the narrative. They don't have a problem with dogma, they just want a christian aesthetic for it.

The people in my family who were radical evangelical Christians in the USSR were allowed to immigrate but those who were non-christian were not. What this tells you is that America was only accepting people from the former USSR who were ready to talk shit about it and fit into the evangelical-zionist pipeline. When you hear one-sided shit from Americans about "what bad thing their Russian friend said" -- you are hearing from this group. Keep in mind protestants were something like 2% of the former USSR.

>>512086439
It's very true

>>512086689
Jeets destroy everything and some White and Asian guys have to come clean up the mess only to be replaced by incompetent jeets again.

>>512078871 (OP)
>was life in USSR really as bad as Western propaganda claims it was?
better than USSA

>memeflaggot
>BBC sources
hard to name a more iconic duo
>Putin seems hell-bent on reviving
yeah, so he and his cronies can lose their luxury yachts and countless mansions
>this makes sense in memeflaggot's head

>you had basically nonexistent rights
>the state assigned you an apartment and a job
>this could be in some desolate shithole in Siberia and you had no right to refuse
>if your co-worker didn't like you or wanted your job he could just accuse you of being a CIA spy and get you v&
>children writing to other children in other countries as pen pals could be investigated as spies
>the food supply is poor and limited, especially fresh produce and vegetables
>wait months, even years to purchase a bicycle, car, refrigerator etc
>the car might arrive with a missing passenger seat because the factory ran short of them
>you can't leave town and travel to another town without a pass and you better have a darn good reason for wanting to leave town
>live in an apartment with 4 other families shoehorned in
>medical care was primitive and people died routinely of conditions that a Western hospital could treat easily
>also forget overseas travel, you need a clean political record for that and countries are put in several tiers of difficulty in getting permission to visit--Soviet allies like GDR and Cuba are easiest to travel to and hardest are US and its allies--for those you would have a KGB minder following you at all times
>all art and literature must conform to socialist realism themes
>the sciences are all distorted to conform to Marxist ideology
>family member dies in an accident at work? all covered up and you're just told it was a helicopter crash or something

>>512087283
>evangelical Christians in the USSR were allowed to immigrate but those who were non-christian were not.
There are countless Jews that immigrated here from the USSR.

>>512078871 (OP)
Russians didn't even believe supermarkets were real. You were arrested if they found you owning any western products. That should clue you in.

>>512087319
Like I said, perfect for kikes.

>>512087496
Yes, lots of evangelicals and jews too. I was going to mention that. The people who were going to be the most reliable anti-Russians and dedicated zionists were allowed to come to the USA. Roughly half the immigrants from the USSR were allowed into the US based on their protestant-zionist-anti-communist potential and the other half were various assortments of jews and who knows what else.

>>512087503
>Russians didn't even believe supermarkets were real.
Great book about Viktor Belenko (the guy that stole the MiG-25 for us) called MiG Pilot gets into that. He was convinced that everything he was being shown in the US was fake.

>>512087418
>yeah, so he and his cronies can lose their luxury yachts and countless mansions

About that. Party elite in USSR lived nicely compared to the average worker but by American standards they were just modestly middle class. They knew the Soviet system was a failure so they willingly blew it up in the early 90s so they could live like Hollywood movie stars in an actual mansion with a Lamborghini.

>>512086968
reviving the USSR? so you dont understand Putinism at all then

>>512087049
capitalism does produce stuff. the problem is with how the stuff is then distributed, and which behaviours are rewarded the most.

For example, there is no denying that USA is now producing reusable space rockets. And it would be a great thing if the absolute majority of the profits from it didn't go to a junkie grifter cringelord who not long ago was great friends with cannibal-pedophiles.

>>512087671
I know a couple of older guys from that era and they confirmed none of that shit was made up. Now we have leftist nuts who actually want it again.

The republics especially Ukraine and Georgia were also siphoning off the country's wealth by the 80s and had better QoL than the RSFSR.

>>512087822
>profits
That's a bold assumption.

>>512078871 (OP)
Life in the USSR was bad the gov't just spontaneously collapsed one day and no one could justify defending it.

>>512087691
>They knew the Soviet system was a failure
fag, this "failure" just a couple years ago was the only way for you to get to your own space station. Literally from the grave the Soviet project was gracefully sending your astronauts for you to space, that just how failed it was.
>they willingly blew it up in the early 90s so they could live like Hollywood movie stars in an actual mansion with a Lamborghini
that they did. As in all times, the strongest fortress can only fall to traitors.

>>512088037
well they do fulfill contracts, do they not?

>>512088102
yes its basically the one thing russia did well... i still blame kikes here for wanting to keep russia as an enemy and driving them towards china while simultaneously enriching china and sending manufacturing there

>>512088257
>yes its basically the one thing russia did well
yeah, having a place to live, a world class education and a medical care - all for free - is nothing, I'm sure you never needed any of these things lol

not to mention being protected from imperialist aggression, but you won't understand this one as you've never been on the receiving end

>>512088257
>yes its basically the one thing russia did well
Still zero luck at sending a probe to Mars or humans out of LEO.

>>512078871 (OP)
If it was good, they wouldn't have to murder people for criticizing it.

>>512088531
Wait, so russia invented housing and schools? And I live in kike occupied territory, so yes I know what it's like to have bolsheviks take power. If you actually like communism then I guess you'll be leaving for North Korea soon?

>>512085882
I know about the boomer proclivity for consumerism. I lived through it. I guess I didn't address this point because it just seemed obvious to me.

>>512088257
The USSR was a more conservative and intellectual society for the whole of its duration than the US ever was. It was a real civilization, not just a consumer simulacra that led to post-history nihilism and reality avoidance by drugging yourself into the 3rd dimension (what America is today).

The USSR also had larger families the whole time than the US did. Most things that are said in the west about the USSR is fake news, just like how it's still fake news about Russia today.

>>512088531
I got a question for you. What are some things you think the west should adopt from the soviet union/russia? Like, there was a spread of western ideas into russia, which had a change to your society. But what would have been some good ideas that should have gone the other way.

>>512088701
>and intellectual society for
'Hol up there, buddy. Soviet education was 100% bent to conform to socialist ideology and pseudosciences such as Lysenkoism.

>>512088701
Yeah man all those people Stalin killed were ghosts all along lol. I really can't wait for you commie fucks to make your move. I could use the fertilizer.

>>512086100
The Soviets really did end the chronic Russian famines. It was a bumpy road to get there, and collectivization of agriculture made some big mistakes, but by 1950 the Russia was famine free and food was abundant.

>>512088876
1950 was less than 20 years after major famines and starvation. There would have been another famine in the early 70s except for Nixon selling American grain to the USSR.

>>512087486
Let's compare it to modern America:

>medical's super expensive and can bankrupt you
>food and water's not considered a right
>you can't afford a car or a house like you could 10 years ago, even easier 40 yrs ago
>rent's sky high
>both in modern russia and usa, you need 2 people to pay for one place.
>censorship's becoming more prevalent in the west (like uk) and youtube's requiring id as of aug. 13
>employers look up personal info and have rejected 44 percent of applicants because of online history (corporate overreach)
>the price of medical is super expensive- my sis gave birth to premie, that costed a million dollars, literally
>sciences are being distorted or defunded to trump's liking

Life in the USSR after Stalin doesn't seem so bad.

>>512088859
They are still finding mass graves in Siberia of people killed in Stalin era purges.

>>512087283
Good stuff to know
Yes, the Soviet emigres are those already predisposed not to fit into life in the USSR.

>>512088833
And yet it blew whatever the US had and still has out of the water. Russia even today, in its liberal capitalist form with a subverted education system, is still dunking 10-ways to Sunday on American so-called "education." Tell me more how math is racist and men are women.

>>512088859
Stalin didn't kill anybody who didn't deserve it. You're okay with your dictators because they kill by the millions but they do it "other there." I'm merely honest and realize that in difficult times traitors should be punished. Stalin did what he had to do to protect the USSR from those seeking to destroy it. Did Biden or Trump do that, did they release the epstein files? If Trump, Biden, Kamala and all the little faggots around them were in the USSR, Stalin would have had them purged.

Uhhhh based??

>>512088833
The Soviet Union wasn't a socialist paradise for sure, but at least education was free, compared to a large portion of the U.S. Tuition's too expensive and states like Minnesota have recognized that and they're giving out free college to anyone that makes under 80k. The U.S. has to change.

>>512078871 (OP)
Russia is actually the best country in the world.
Nigger free zone.

>>512089526
>Yes, the Soviet emigres are those already predisposed not to fit into life in the USSR.
Which, presumably means aspiring more to life than living in a gray apartment and working in a shitty factory and you get arrested for complaining about anything.

>>512087691
>About that. Party elite in USSR lived nicely compared to the average worker but by American standards they were just modestly middle class. They knew the Soviet system was a failure so they willingly blew it up in the early 90s so they could live like Hollywood movie stars in an actual mansion with a Lamborghini.
Yes, the Soviet communist elite lost faith in Soviet ideology and policy, because they weren't living opulently like Western elites, and blew up the system so they could become oligarchs. The Soviet collapse was internal, intentional sabotage. The former communist bosses became capitalist promoters almost overnight and still make up a lot of the Russian and Eastern European oligarchy to this day.

>>512088725
>from the soviet union
I don't think it can be viewed this way, it's like trying to transplant something useful from a fish onto a bird. The two societies are fundamentally different, both economically and ideologically.
>russia
if you mean RF today then absolutely nothing at all, because everything good we have is just a vestige of USSR that's being slowly dismantled, i.e. unsustainable, and everything new is a mix of USA-20-years-ago and Uganda.

Oh, I know one thing: make faggots/transfaggots illegal. Putting kids on puberty blockers is a crime.

>>512090097
>Putting kids on puberty blockers is a crime
I don't think kids should have access to such things until they're 16, by then, they're basically grown adults, but slightly more dumb.

>>512089526
Precisely. This is what I have observed and is largely why the "Understanding Russia Industrial Complex" in the US is absolutely batshit retarded because its "Russia experts" are butt-blasted protestant-zionist blowhards who feel that they didn't get the recognition for their genius in the USSR that think they deserve.
They were destined to rule you see? Whereas in America the Pentagon throws lots of money at them to just say whatever as long as it's anti-USSR and anti-Russian. And who will correct them? They have a monopoly in the USA on misinformation. Garry Kasporov, real name "Garik Kimovich Weinstein" has received hundreds of millions of US taxpayer dollars in his foundations to talk shit about Russia. And for that he thanks you ;)

>>512089670
If that's the case, then why were so many of the people Stalin killed were rehabilitated?

>>512088531
>not to mention being protected from imperialist aggression, but you won't understand this one as you've never been on the receiving end
The West is indeed imperialist. Always has been, still is today. I'm not even judging it, but yeah, the West loves to conquer and dominate.
Westerners really don't understand what it's like to be the targets of such a juggernaut, Americans least of all, safe behind the world's two biggest oceans.

>>512090219
I mean it's a complex problem, if not for the constant brainwashing from the media the idea itself would never even occur. I think it's completely unnatural, anti-natural even.

>>512090379
>I'm not even judging it, but yeah, the West loves to conquer and dominate.
You're not even conquering at this point, you're just breaking in, shitting out a pile and leaving without elaborating. Based, I guess? (not really)

The thing you consistently notice about Western tankies who romanticize USSR is that they're all genetic rejects who wish they lived somewhere where the state assigned them a job and apartment and basically made all their life's decisions for them because they can't hack it in the real world.

>>512090595
I'm no fan of American aggression. This country was much better during the long peace of 1973 to 2001. I'm just saying the West has been aggressive and expansionist for more than 500 years and Westerners don't understand what it's like to become a target of Western aggression. But people like the Iraqis sure do.

>>512086968
Space is fake, Jewish and gay and Yuri was Freemasonic scum.

russnigger posters are so gay, you lost your entire country multiple times, you are basically irrelevant on the world stage and only exist because you are too annoying to govern directly in an imperial fashion

>>512090374
Because Stalin died and Khrushchev took over. Khrushchev was a petty ignoramus who destroyed USSR's relationship with China. Among the many mistakes he made, he let out a lot of people from soviet prisons who should have never been able to come out. The seed of Ukrainian so-called "nationalism" lived on through those people he "freed." They were all just a bunch of nazi collaborators. They should have died in prison.

>>512087671
no one's gonna read some gay book about victor hivlenko what a kind of a fucking name is that stupid russnigger subhuman language lol

>>512091122
they assfucked each other really hard and hivov took a cock up his anus

>>512090595
shut the fuck up russnigger animal
you're not even human how are you even literate you fucking animal lol

>>512089163
>Life in the USSR after Stalin doesn't seem so bad.
kill yourself you fucking russnigger bot no one cares about your worthless opinion, you might as well not even exist

>>512078871 (OP)
Communist are really really good at making themselves look advanced and cool.

>>512088102
Space is fake, Jewish and gay, Alex.

>>512091282
yeah so advanced

Assblasted hohol upset Stalin gulag'd his 80iq toothless grandfather. Now his genetic proteges are getting misted in Ukraine. I am overall happy with this arrangement given the absurd circumstances. The final solution to the Ukrainian question will be achieved, one way or another. Ukrainians themselves will make sure of it.

>>512091294
russniggers are gay too

>>512091325
Oh wow, every country has their bad sides but those sides were never shown during the USSR days.

>>512091361
why don't you come clean my toilet you worthless russnigger subhuman?

here, here's your empires and and shit take this plunger and do it for the whoreland hivssia

>>512091122
The rehabilitations continued even after he was out of power. Why do you think Stalin had some kind of arcane ability to know who the traitors were when the heads of NKVD were the repeatedly ousted?

>>512091424
no one cares about your gulag shithole

it's dead like this fucking russnigger subhuman

why do you subhumans come to this site?

>>512091464
he assfucked himself to death

>>512091464
and then hivov came in his butt and they all drank warm cum

the end

>>512091325
Top kek. Russians are subhumans.

man polacks are actually some of the worst trash on this site besides leafs

>>512091464
It doesn't matter because after Stalin the USSR stopped building socialism and set into stagnation with its elite abandoning the project while the state ran on mostly comfy managerial interia. Stalin is hated because he was the most effective soviet leader. If Stalin wasn't good at his job you wouldn't have hohols shitting up this thread. Look how blasted they are. He really did a number on ukrainians. Now Stalin's ghost is ended the ukrainian genetic pool (which is a good thing) and ukrainians know it deep down. They know they have sinned against god.

If Polacks, Russkies and White Americans simply killed all our Jews and then expelled all the browns, we could create unimaginable things together.

>>512091780
>set into stagnation with its elite abandoning the project while the state ran on mostly comfy managerial interia
This seems hauntingly familiar.

>>512091736
>>512091780
get the fuck back to your shithole no one wants you here russnigger subhumans

>>512078871 (OP)
It was much worse
t. My grandparents were polish
My grandpa in particular used to get irrationally angry when asked to talk about it

oh look, the toilet nigger came to wipe the thread for his masters, just on time.

>>512090426
Trans-people have always existed in numerous cultures, it wasn't until medieval times when such things were rejected. However, I think a lot of leftists are taking things too far.
>>512090859
>can't hack it in the real world
The USSR was part of the real world, and it's getting harder to hack it since inflation is becoming worse and the middle class is disappearing; it's been said that we would need 66 bucks an hour to match the buying power that boomers had in the mid to late 20th century. Plus, 7.25 isn't cutting it now. And w/ your eugenics-type mindset, you'd be the first to go.

no it was much better and I'd like to live in that era instead of today and I'll gladly accept not having internet porn and smartphones if that also means I get guaranteed employment in my field of graduation and a virgin wife to raise my offspring

Communism had a lot of issues, but its better then judeo-capitalism. Eastern Europe is White and Western Europe isn't. This alone is evidence in favor of Communism vs the American system.

>>512092195
fucking commie, you don't understand you have infinite potential working for someone else or under the government
imagine all the money you could make you could buy 50 virgin wives

>>512090859
And I'm not saying the USSR's the cream of the crop, but god damn it, you have to admit things are becoming worse.

>>512091930
>. My grandparents were polish

so they didn't live in the union
It's like asking what live in USA was like and a random fool from canada responds

>>512079682
salty jew

>>512079762
This sounds like a good life.

>>512090859
We have that, though. It's called the military. They could absolutely live that life.

Real talk; what are some good ways to learn about russia and the soviet union that isnt wrote by seething western journalists?

>>512092353
It used to be where we could afford more things but now it's becoming harder and there's still a lot of states that don't offer free college by any means, and a degree could be considered worthless since A.I.'s replacing people for a variety of jobs.

>>512078871 (OP)
Those russians really liked child pron.

>>512092548
Watch some soviet movies

>>512091736
>man polacks are actually some of the worst trash on this site besides leafs
Leafs are 50 times better, in fact.
The arrogance of the modern Pole is something to behold in awe. No gratitude, lots of entitlement, and incredible ego and pride.
They weren't like this even ten years ago.
I think their media has changed them.

>>512091855
Yes, it does. You could say the neoliberal era inaugurated (formally) under Reagan did the same thing in the west: technocratic managerial inertia, de-industrialization and the industrialziation of finance. An inversion of economic common sense. All this works well enough until the center cannot hold.

>>512085664
>themselves
face the wall troon

>>512091855
>>set into stagnation with its elite abandoning the project while the state ran on mostly comfy managerial interia
>This seems hauntingly familiar.
Yes, many Western states parallel the late USSR, with managerial and administrative bloat and running on inertia from more dynamic times.

>>512078871 (OP)
My mom was born there (Azerbaijan SSR) and she says it was pretty okay. Everyone had free healthcare, education, and welfare. A moderately happy life was basically guaranteed for you and people were very educated comparing to how they are now.

The downside was that it was very corrupt and not much products were available in government stores. You had to get a lot of stuff from the black market. Also you had to bribe everybody to get ahead in life. You even had to bribe the doctor to perform a surgery for you that he was supposed to do for free, because he would refuse otherwise.

In general it was okay if you weren't alive during Stalin's reign of terror. Life was hell on earth in Stalin's USSR, basically IRL hard mode.

>>512092739
Thats a great idea. Thanks.

>>512078871 (OP)
It was ran by ethnic Jews and there were no elections, also they intentionally created famines to force the population into submission.

It was fucking shit even after they got it established over the literal dead bodies of their native population. Evidenced by the simple fact it could not compete with the West and eventually collapsed.

We do have feminism and women's suffrage to thank them for too.

>>512092548
>>512092739
>Watch some soviet movies
I'm not sure if that's a completely accurate depiction of Soviet life, but I'm still going to recommend Ivan Vasiliyevich Changes His Profession and Ironiya Sudby. These two are absolutely required viewing.

https://mosfilm.ru/cinema/films/ivan-vasilevich-menyaet-professiyu/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ms5Ga6kNvHM

>>512092739
No one will ever do that

>>512092739
>Watch some soviet movies
Soviet cinema has some great stuff! And I like some modern Russian cinema too.
Mosfilm's 2005 miniseries of Doctor Zhivago is something I binge watch (all twelve hours of it) every couple of years.
For people looking for good foreign cinema who have watched all the Japanese classics already, try Soviet and today's Russian cinema.

>>512092548
assfuck yourself with a dildo

>>512093201
no one cares, russniggers never made a film worth watching

nothing good ever came out of russnhivia

>>512092820
Yes, it was

>>512093201
>Mosfilm
I love that they make so much available for free.

https://www.youtube.com/@MosfilmRuOfficial

>>512093113
Women's suffrage is a Judeo/Freemasonic plan at least since 1750. Women were instrumental in the French revolution, and played a smaller but still important in the American ((revolution))

>>512093385
because it's worthless

>>512092767
>Yes, it does. You could say the neoliberal era inaugurated (formally) under Reagan did the same thing in the west: technocratic managerial inertia, de-industrialization and the industrialziation of finance. An inversion of economic common sense. All this works well enough until the center cannot hold.
Thatcher and Reagan were toxic for the West, the Anglosphere first, but then the Continent too followed along (mostly).
Thatcher even said "There is no such thing as society." By this, she meant that only the individual and nuclear family are real. Anything beyond that, like the neighborhood, the community, and even the nation-state is just a mental fiction believed in by silly people and better off discarded.
This mentality of "me and mine" has proved a disaster for social cohesion in our countries. The internet didn't kill social life, nor the smartphone. The rot set in much earlier, in the 80s and 90s when the neoliberal era hit its stride, and people already were leery of each other and keeping to themselves. The digital age of staring at a screen all day just offered people what they now had come to want: a way of living without having to interact with shitty humans who mistreat those around them and only care about themselves.
If society isn't real, then how are corporations real, or the state for that matter? The neoliberals never answered this question, yet they deify corporations and, despite their rhetoric against the state, eagerly use state power, which they now control, to their own advantage.

It had some good bits and some bad bits. The bad outweighed the good.

>>512093146
They are usually realistic by entourage which I think is what he asked for. Ofc filter out the movies about space, robots and wizards.
My recommendation is

1) For postwar feel
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pokrovsky_Gate

2) for late soviet feel
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_Does_Not_Believe_in_Tears

>>512093385
Thats really cool. What a great idea releasing all the soviet films free to the public

>>512093113
>We do have feminism and women's suffrage to thank them for too.
Women's lib was tried in the Soviet Union early on, along with other "progressive" policies, but these things were mostly rejected after a few years. Yes, women still worked throughout the entirety of the USSR, but women never viewed themselves as men's superiors like in the modern West. Families were mainly intact and functional, much more so than in America, say, by the 1980s after no fault divorce became the law of the land. Soviet women remained feminine and didn't become butch wannabe men.

It was life just like life can be called life inside a prison except it was on the scale of a nation.

>>512083234
And? Having a komunalka or obshchaga is better?

>>512093935
Pretty sure it beats living under a bridge, yea

>>512085993
Дa блядь, пoэтoмy cтpaнa зacpaнaa чypбaнaми. Cвoих людeй нe хвaтaeт. И нe нaдo пpo oбpaзoвaниe тyт кyкapeкaть, y вac блядь ocнoвы пpaвocлaвия пpeпoдaют, и OBП.

>>512093780
don't forget The Assrape Chronicles and The Kacap's HIV

>>512093935
Assfuckałka is the best

>>512088102
Cтpaннo чтo пoчeмy-тo вce пpeдaтeли пиздyют зa гpaницy, и дeтишки их зa гpaницeй, и aктивы y них зa гpaницeй...

>>512094138
chgrhpsj kudhjnf assfuck
rape
AIDS

>>512093146
There's a lot of really good classic soviet music.

1975, Snow over Leningrad, by Georgian-Armenian soviet composer Mikael Tariverdiev. One of my favorite.

https://youtu.be/h78RLxE7rzE?list=RDh78RLxE7rzE

>>512094246
There's a lot of really good classic soviet homosexual activities

>>512094035
Well, the fact that you think so is the reason I think you're cкoт и Baшe мecтo в хлeвy. Paбoтaть нa нopмaльнoй paбoтe нaдo и тoгдa и хaтa здecь бyдeт, и мaшинкa, и мeдицинa. Пpocтo нaдo нe хepнёй зaнимaтcя, a paбoтaть пo нacтoящeмy.

>>512093473
why do you keep posting this shit. idiot nigger if another war breaks out youre next you idiot

>>512094225
Aw, is the dumb Polack too stupid to run the words through ChatGPT? Of course he is, he can barely bang two rocks together.

>>512094348
>you're ne...ACK

>>512078871 (OP)
Depends how far east you were. Think of it as circles of hell. Baltics were purgatory, far east was Satan's anus.

>>512078871 (OP)

The quality of life in the USSR was higher than the current quality of life in the US, UK, and Europe. The land of Poland, Ukraine, and the "Baltic states" has always historically been a slum. The term "ghetto" means a Jewish slum.

Zionists live in dirty ghettos and their "culture" has always been the source of pandemics like typhus, the Plague of Justinian, the black plague, etc. Because those diseases always spread in ghettos with ports. And who are the port workers and merchants and who always wants imports? Zionists.

The USSR segregated the monkeys into the so called Baltic states, Pollack-stan, and Hohol-ville, which were the industrial centers because they required low IQ laborers. Moscow and Rus are not for pedophiles, inbreds, or monkey pretending to be human.
Sometimes the best way to purge a population is to let them rule themselves. Stalin's purpose was to preserve the future of Rus by eliminating the enemies of Rus (the Baltic/slave populations, China, and Poland/Ukraine).

The USSR was shitty under Lenin because Lenin was an inbred monkey. Stalin purged the monkeys and exported them to europes border to weaken Europe. And the monkeys are now threatening to burn Europe over recognizing Palestine so I guess Stalin won the Cold war.

Before of Soviets bearing gifts. Like "free labor" that's actually a bioweapon to devolve your countries genetic lines (aka naked apes and neandethals who bred with Europeans and americans after WW2 and thus made them vulnerable to the plague, smallpox, typhus, infertility, addiction, shizophrenia and autism).

Thank the big brain Allies for inviting the Soviet and Nazi bioweapon into America and Europe after WW2. The "secret Nazi and Soviet bioweapons" were the tattooed livestock in the camps that came to America and Europe and bred like rabbits. All it took was pretending like it was anti Nazi or anti Russian to fuck an inbred Jewish banker for the plan to work kek.

The Christ Reich rises.

>>512094055
тaк ты в кaпитaлизмe тeпepь, oчниcь, ёбa, тpидцaть лeт yжe кaк. и вcё нa мecтe: ввoз дeшёвoй paбoчeй cилы, oткaз oт cиcтeмы oбpaзoвaния и пepeхoд к peлигии, oбщee oбнищaниe нaceлeния. Кaк пo нoтaм, нacлaждaйcя!

>>512094548
most mentally sane kacapGPT

what was the rate of incels and neets in the soviet union?

>>512094613
KABAP KSHDFH OOOK EEEK KPACAK

>>512094613
>тaк ты в кaпитaлизмe тeпepь, oчниcь

>>512094664
Do you consider homosexual activities to break inceldom?

>>512094664
incels?
probably plenty
neets?
you just show up and do a bit of work, why fight it

>>512094687
>no ads
>everyone wearing suits
>spaceship moonlander playground

weren't you supposed to make fun of us? that looks kino af

>>512094138
чeгo ж тyт cтpaннoгo? в кoлoнии гpaбим, в мeтpoпoлии живём.
>>512094328
дa кoнeчнo, нeбocь пepeeхaл yжe пoлyчив бecплaтнoe oбpaзoвaниe (cпиздив тo ecть). Пoпpoбyй выплaти eгo cтoимocть, тoгдa и пoгoвopим. Пpичём нe ceйчac, кoгдa ты yжe ycтpoилcя, a cpaзy пocлe шкoлы. He хo?
Paбoтaeт oн, блядь, "пo-нacтoящeмy".

>30 posts by a seething pole

>>512094687
Whats that building for? Looks like hot drinks?

>>512094754
>>512094664

Beeing a neet was a crime btw. But you had guaranteed employment anyway so if you prepared accordingly you were good

>>512094800
russniggers are quite simple bydło
doesn't take much to make you happy, just a bottle in anus and some mud to play with

>>512094687
>КBAC
I haven't had that in years. Incredibly calorie dense and delicious. Great for breakfast and/or lunch for a hard day's work. And cheap!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kvass

>>512094883
It says квac so I assume they sell kwas drinks.
It's something like rootbeer I guess, low alcohol popular bread brew.

>>512094883
Those were so called assrape booths, where soviet citizens could engage in a bit of cumradery

>>512095000
It is 0% alcohol.

>>512095000
It's also mixed with shit and piss, favorite russian delicacy

>>512094987
>Incredibly calorie dense and delicious.
indeed and it's thanks to Polish excrement that we export to russia
it's very nutrient

>>512079682
a king can be paid off but a senator is always on sale.

>>512078871 (OP)
Communism turned Russia, the world's largest shithole, into a global superpower. Imagine what it would do in a country that's worth a damn.

>>512080988
>their cringe gulags
>our glorious prison work programs

>>512095076
I thought so too since forever but actually it always had some, iirc 0.5% or so

>>512078957
that book is popular. do you know what's not popular?

>>512095189
Assrape?

Good thread. Given some interesting info.

>>512095139
well what do you know, I stand corrected.

>>512083535
Russia has niggers now. They aren't better off.

>>512078996
>KGB telling Westerns that communism is a pile of shit
Makes zero sense.

What's amazing is this is the same exact thing as china posting videos of all those skyscrapers with LEDs on them. Those buildings are mostly empty, not even complete. They don't have functioning electricity, plumbing, or air conditioning. Those buildings look largely empty too.
Communism will always be retarded.

>>512095525
>Aлиca в квace aлкoгoль?
>Дa, в квace мoжeт coдepжaтьcя aлкoгoль, тaк кaк пpи eгo пpигoтoвлeнии пpoиcхoдит бpoжeниe. avtocod.rudzen.ru
>Oбычнo в квace coдepжитcя oт 0,5% дo 1,5% aлкoгoля. Этo зaвиcит oт пpoдoлжитeльнocти бpoжeния и peцeптypы. B нaпиткe дoмaшнeгo пpигoтoвлeния coдepжaниe aлкoгoля мoжeт быть eщё вышe. dzen.ru
>Пo ГOCTy зaвoдcкoй квac дoлжeн coдepжaть нe бoлee 1,2% aлкoгoля и cчитaтьcя бeзaлкoгoльным.

>>512080803
>reason to excel
>wage still the same
Holy shit. The goodest goy ever.

>>512079130
The only place this sort of thing works is in a video game, like Workers & Resources.

>>512095720
It's called a work ethic. With your flag, I can understand your confusion.

>>512086899
They are the most mutt'd race of yurop on account of their mothers going back generation upon generation gave birth to conqueror rape babies.

>>512078871 (OP)

Parents were born into communist Europe in the 40's and 50's and lived their fleeing to Canada a few years before the collapse of the USSR. Mother had no issue with her quality of life there but my father hated living there since, according to him, a high ranking KGB officer fell in love with my mother and kept trying to kill him. According to my mother, it was because he refused to work as a spy for them when they learned he ran a business that had clients in the western bloc nations.He felt suspicious of my mother working together with the KGB since he wanted to divorce her but couldn't do so due various circumstances until much later when I was born.

>>512095560
we have like five in total and they're all in moscow
>>512095620
we was an informant in GULAG, snitched on his fellow anti-soviet activists. not a career KGB, just a snitch.
>>512095659
I can assure you ours were never empty, quite the opposite. and unlike the chinese, most of them are still standing to this day with next to zero maintenance.

>>512095768
>work ethic
something that russniggers don't know

>>512095872
>I can assure you ours were never empty, quite the opposite. and unlike the chinese, most of them are still standing to this day with next to zero maintenance.
Believable and hilarious at the same time. I lived in china, I know how shoddy their construction is. I have a background in plumbing and electrical. I was constantly asking how that country manages to stay standing with all the slop I saw. I guess they're like the orks, it works because they believe it does.

>>512095772
russniggers? yeah their genetics is all fucked

>>512095872
yeah sure

>>512095988
You are indistinguishable from any given ivan because their grandfathers raped your grandmothers several generations over.

>>512078967
>there are countless cases in ukraine when russian soldiers are greeted by soviet flags by people who miss it.
Of course there are, most of *kraine's budget was coming from soviet dotations. When they lost it, suddenly infrastructure started to fall apart. In Kiev metro there are trains from 70s LMAO.

>>512085514
And our non-existent rural population and their reliance on just-in-time supplies.

>>512096032

>>512095872

>>512095948

Less about belief, more so that the CCP members get the actual quality work done for their stuff while the peasantry get the shoddy shit. Like the Imperium, humans are a resource there, so a couple million dying from shoddy public works won't matter as there will be more the replace them soon.

>>512096152
speaking of shoddy, here's a tram in pedossia

Is life in America really so bad now?

>>512084094
I am honestly jealous.. ill admit it.

>>512089700
Comfy life in communism was hopefully there was food to eat and hopefully you never got sick. Otherwise, it was walks in the part when the weather was nice, and reading books, especially reading books in the park. Not super bad, not super nice, when there was food to eat.
Of course there was also the collective punishment, the inadequate supplies, the corruption and abuse of authority, the labor abuse depending on your commissar and trade, the gulag if you fucked up, and so forth.

russniggers will never know this feel kek

>>512084415
Can you remember what it was called or provide a link, anon? id like to watch

>>512084094
>I don't need to "pretend", I live in a fucking apartment I've paid zero coins for and rent out another left from my grandma.
the apartment in question

>>512096338
yeah it was pretty nice

>>512096473
free medical and child care in the hivssrr

>>512078871 (OP)
meanwhile life in the US in the current year

>>512096858
check out
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_Confinement_Center

palantir future awaits as AI will deem you a criminal before you commit a crime

parts where very bad
parts where ok
some parts decent

>Most of it was shit
>Some parts of main cities, and tribal type areas beyond party control not bad
>East germany, Yugoslavia - decent

nothing more retarded and hilarious than seething Polish toilet cleaners in UK thinking they are superior to Russians somehow

>>512096237
I miss him

>>512096358
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/zyyKyjNHz3U

>>512094880
>>30 posts by a seething pole
He's just trying to shit up the thread and derail discussion that provides real and interesting information.