You should be growing food.
It doesn't have to be all your food. It just needs to be more than nothing. Any amount of calories that you grow for yourself are calories you won't need to source from a totally destroyed supply chain in the middle of WWIII.

One mature hazelnut tree yields enough calories for an average male to live a month every year. If you plant some fruit and nut trees/vines/shrubs now, they should be mature enough to provide sustenance when you'll need it.

Why eat the fruits of the tree, when you can eat the tree?

>>512112534 (OP)
We've always grown food in EU. Its only you and mutts that forgot how to. Skill issue desu

>>512112627
Some trees ARE edible.
You can eat spruce, for instance.

>>512112651
Don't fucking give me that shit. The whole idea of growing a yard of useless fucking grass was a flex on the poors that the Europeans started.

>grew my own potatoes
>fucking colorado beetles everywhere
>slugs ate my spinach

>>512112736
Next year, I'm building a cage to keep the rabbits out of my cabbages.

I live in Salt Lake City. Deer show up in unexpected places. I always assumed they're exclusively up near the mountains where's there's thick forests. But I saw those niggers way down in the valley, far, far away from the forest. They just live in the fields of industrial zones. I feel like if civilization collapsed, I could just hunt deer.

>>512113076
There are enough people who erroneously think this way that the population will crash the moment that becomes a necessity.

>>512112534 (OP)
This grow your own is the dumbest ever campaign. Most people are unable to buy land.

>>512112703
Nigga we have gardens where we grow food. Right now I'm eating salad with tomatoes peppers and onions from my garden. I have a fuck tonne of tomatoes, by the end of the month I'll pick them all and make canned tomato sauce, I'll pickle the green ones

>>512113554
If you have a South facing window, that is enough to begin growing SOME food.

>>512112736
I stopped doing spinach when it bolted at 1". Tried a bunch of varieties, the last one was a laugh though, basically seedlings going to seed. The slugs can have it.

>>512112534 (OP)
I am growing red hot chill papers. If and when the bad times would come, I will just barter some for actual food from someone who grows potatoes only

you can but right now a shitload of calories that will last you for years.

>>512114125
>Hungarian
>Growing peppers
Checks out.
You really shouldn't do monoculture, though.

>>512112534 (OP)
isn't hazelnut the tree that smells like coom?

>>512114255
You are thinking of Bartlett pears.

>>512114255
Can't speak for American hazelnut, the beaked hazelnut is just a shrub that doesn't smell like anything.

>>512113554
You are right in the context of East Asia and Europe, but the US still has a lot of cheap land

>>512113691
Landlord/owner doesn't like it.

>>512114556
>Doesn't like it
Is it in the tenant agreement?
If it is in the tenant agreement, is that even legal to put in there?

In Toronto, basically everyone puts clauses that are downright illegal to put in the agreement, so you know what people do? They ignore it entirely since it cannot be enforced.

>>512114339
chestnuts are the one

>>512112534 (OP)
Chads don't grow food, they go in the forest and pick up what they find.
Why should grow salad?when there's savage rucola, or dandelion everywhere? and I can also use the dandelion roots for make coffee so basically in every season the nature give you something for free without doing anything

>>512114705
>Coffee
That's probably the thing people will struggle the most with when it comes to shortages during WWIII. What little does make it across the ocean will mostly go to the military.

Here in the Americas we have the Kentucky coffee tree, which is used to produce a coffee-ish beverage.

>>512112677
No, you can eat some of the inner bark of some pine trees after processing, or with no processing if you want to gain next to no nutrition.
It's very inefficient and there's a reason why it's only really been used during times of extreme famine.

>>512114928
The fresh buds in the spring are used for making spruce beer. It's quite tasty.

>>512112534 (OP)
Don’t you need two to get nuts? Otherwise I would like Hasselnuss Baum

>>512115112
American hazlenuts are actually self-fertile. They'll produce more with a second tree, though.

>>512114822
Yes, you should start to learn how many resources are around you for free.

Why bother when theres snackwraps at McDonald's?

>>512115207
It's more important to learn what not to pick, to be honest.

>>512114255
huh, guess thats why I like hazelnuts so much
yummy yummy cummies in my tummy

>>512114957
Spruce is better for that but the nutritional value is negligible.
There's quite a bit of vitamin C in the young needles but your body won't even need vitamin C if you ftent consuming any carbohydrates, which you won't be doing if you're starving.

>>512115378
My people don't take this for granted, Anon.
Spruce saved the lives of early settlers.
So did maple sap. That's why we use the leaf on the flag.

>>512114255
I thought that was chestnut flowers?

>>512115450
Sap from various deciduous trees can actually give you some calories, especially if you boil it down. Spruce needles probably take more energy to metabolize than they give you, and it's even worse if you take into account the energy needed to pick the needles.
If you live anywhere close to where there is Taiga then you likely have several small lakes in waking distance from wherever you happen to be. Catching perch, trout or what have you is probably a lot easier and gives you a lot more calories.

>>512113634
How long did you have to wait to get your allotment?

>>512112534 (OP)
waste of time, self sustain mongos are complete idiots. i can eat 3500cals/day no problem and not gain a single gram of weight.

the things you can grow are all low caloric and low nutritional value. you need animal products.
farm chicken or be quiet about self sustainage.

Plants are not food for humans. If you heavily process and/or cook them they can be consumed in small amounts seasonally though. The Agricultural Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for humanity.

>>512112534 (OP)
>One mature hazelnut tree
doesn't it take years for them to grow nuts?
the war will be over by then lol

>>512117250
Yes, and they might very well get attacked by several different fungi or insect species severely reducing yield. In addition it takes quite a bit of work to manually de shell all the nuts, you might not have electricity in the proposed scenario.
Still they are nutritious and are easy to store.

>>512116018
Exactly. The time and energy devoted to gardening is not worth the return. It needs to be large-scale to be remotely worthwhile, at that point it becomes a full-time job. Which is cool if you want to be a farmer, but just for feeding yourself, nah.
Hunting, trapping and fishing are where it's at.

>>512115750
Do you not own land in muttistan?

>>512117250
Hazelnuts are actually very fast for nut trees. That's why I'm suggesting it.

>>512112534 (OP)
If one allows you to live for a month, couldn't you just have 12 trees and live forever? Just plant a dozen more for each family member too.

>>512120015
You will want to eat things other than just hazelnuts. Eating the same thing over and over again gets old quickly.
But it does go to show how you really don't need all that much space to drastically lower your food costs.

>>512114306
those are the ones that smell like rancid pussy.
we have them everywhere because our city loves smelling like putrid snapper. its disgusting.

>>512120548
My city planted saskatoons everywhere :D

>>512118246
Or raising animals. You can make all the food you need every day out of 20 laying hens. If everything is so fucked that you can't get feed, then you need to have a quarter acre or so of haygrazer planted. That will give them the protein they need to make eggs every day. At least for the summer. Need maybe 40 and a half acre to have enough put back for the winter when they will be making less eggs due to cold and lack of protein (plant winter wheat to sustain them in the winter). If you want eggs in the winter you probably need to find a way to farm insects for them to eat.

>>512120126
You make enough to have a survival diet and trade that good with others for a variety of food. Much easier to learn one thing well than to half ass a few dozen things.

>>512112534 (OP)
>>512112534 (OP)
I'll rank my favorite fruit trees after 10 years of SHTF skitzo gardening. Keep in mind I live in the California central valley which is famous for fruit growing, so ymmv.

>hesperidium (orange, lemon, ect.)

S tier. This is the ultimate beginner low effort high reward tree. It stays green and looks good all year. Only takes a few years to start fruiting. Then it literally shits fruit for like 9 months out of the year. Super easy. Just trim it because they get tall and you won't be able to pick the ones on the top. Main restriction is climate but if you live where these grow and you don't grow them, you are a fucking retard its so easy. Some varieties have thorns, so if you hate thorns, get a variety that advertises smaller thorns.

>berry (avocado)

A tier because fuck these mexican kikes I aint paying $2 for a fucking avocado nuke Mexico holy shit. Also its a nice looking evergreen tree and the maintenance isn't that bad. The issue with these is climate. The only places these really grow well is like Santa Barbara to San Diego close to the coast. If cold gets them before they get big, it can permanently stunt them and prevent them from ever fruiting. Even when they get big they don't like to freeze. They do grow here but we get a hard freeze every few years and the tree won't grow hardly any fruit that year if it does that.

>stone fruit (pear, peach, cherry)

Much more difficult. Much more pruning and staking and fertilizing and pest control required. The fruit has a soft skin so can be damaged by basically anything. The sun, hail, bugs, birds... my god the fucking birds. Crows eat these for fun just to troll you. They peck them one time just enough to ruin it, then fly away. Fucking assholes. Don't let all that scare you though. Just be aware its a bit more work than oranges.

>pome (apple) and
Meh. I'm blaming this one on the heat. It actually grows fine, but needs lots of cold weather to get that crispy crunch, which I do not get.