>>512124102 (OP)
What's funny is how easy it is to avoid buying tariff products.

These tariffs are a dumb idea and will absolutely cost him the Senate and it will cost the Republicans 2028.
Nobody can afford anything right now. We need lower prices.

>>512124259
holy shit you're dumb.

>>512124102 (OP)
american car companies are trash that should have gone under decades ago

>>512124102 (OP)
>american car maker
>all parts made overseas
That's the real fucking joke right there.

>>512124102 (OP)
>friendly fire
So it's like, they're obsessed with this caricature that trump is president just to give his business buddies favors. Then over and over And over again he DOESN'T do that. So then theyre like "lol trump messed up he accidentally wasn't corrupt"

>>512124102 (OP)
I see major trouble on the horizon for Ford, I think their strategy is wrong, I think their quality is awful. Fords are not appealing at all anymore and haven't been for quite a while. Its pretty rare to see Fords on the road here now, they were everywhere when I was growing up. Maybe the only segment they can still compete in is trucks

>>512124102 (OP)
Cars that use a majority of parts/materials from other countries arent "made in america". They are "assembled in america using foreign parts and materials". Eat shit and bring our manufacturing industries back.

>>512124102 (OP)
us Americans would love to buy Chinese-made cars but can't, because that would "impact American companies". BYD, an EV maker, is blowing Tesla out of the water in most places, except the USA. we're forced to buy Tesla's overpriced slop and less efficient cars because muh profits.

>>512124102 (OP)
>OMG WHY IS NO ONE BUYING OUR $110000 F-150S??!!!1!!11!1
This shit has been coming for a decade.

>>512124539
>bring our manufacturing industries back
Its never going to happen. I know that's the punchline and you'd love it to happen. But realistically, its never going to. Think about it

>>512124356
Like literally
There's a dozen versions of everything you want on every shelf. Buy the cheapest one. That's what every American has been doing for 30 years anyways. It's how china took over. Now that same phenomenon means every tariff is as if trump were magically killing their sales. The consumer doesn't pay the tariffs if the thing stays in the store. The store doesn't pay the tariff if they stopped replenishing inventory.

>>512124356
holy shit you're retarded

that's the price of freedom

>>512124740
You know who talks like this?
communists.

>>512124102 (OP)
>Fury as
But there isn't, leftists are just schizophrenic and have daily hallucinations.

>>512124102 (OP)
>ford
>fixed or repaired daily
Nothing of value was lost.

>>512124102 (OP)
BASED TRUMP TAXES AMERICANS SO BASED

>>512124520
Yeah that's why Dan brown used the name "Ford prefect" for an alien who needed a "commonly used earth name"

>>512124682
I want a CAR. Not a truck. Not a SUV. I want nothing that moves based solely off of a fucking BATTERY.

>>512124716
Oh shit oh well. I guess we'll tariff all of the importers into oblivion and just sit on our hands surrounded by ball the raw materials to build everything and just not do anything.

>>512124777
Trips of truth

>>512124987
That'll still be $60000 starting + tax + dealer fees + yolo

>>512124377
And they still cost a small fortune.

>>512124847
Communists don't have dozens of versions of products on their shelves. Ideally they have 1 and in practice their shelves are empty.

>>512124987
If you can even find an American manufacturer that still makes an actual passenger car, that is.

>>512124102 (OP)
The tariffs are like when Americans got confused with a 1/3 pound burger and a 1/4 pound burger and thought they were getting a better deal with the 1/4 pounder. It's not surprising Americans want even more tariffs because they think other countries are being forced to pay up.

>>512124847
lots of retards here have been like "you dont NEED to buy x" whenever the price goes up as a result of orange nigger's retardation

>>512124102 (OP)
I know how tariffs work.
>They do a tariff.
>My price goes up.
>I don't buy it.
That's all there is to it. If they keep making the economy worse I'll just refuse to do any economic activity at all.

>>512124102 (OP)
>tariff of 30%
>product comes in to country, company that wants it pays 30% more to the government (this is how the government makes money)
>company then passes on these costs to the consumer in order to not lose profits
some companies could eat the tariffs but most won't do so

fyi, this is why peanuts/cashews are often so expensive. tariffs. we can't grow these things in the USA so they're nearly always imported.

>>512124377
>Pay $1k for 1 shitty car part made in America (because everything is expensive there so the margin needs to be big, plus inflation projection, taxes and regulations)
>Pay $200 to china for the same part, same quality
>Pay $800 to Europe for the superior version
And that's just the cost of the materials.
Workers have tools and uses machines, which have components. Most of these are made in Asia because of the materials
Do you Fucking get it now you stupid brown broccoli hair faggot

>>512125086
It'll be $0 when no one buys them

>>512124377
This, they should go bankrupt to free some market space for US made cars. There's nothing that can't be made in your country, Trump is trying to make a demand for it (while he pump jewish dicks).

>>512124102 (OP)
Nope
Make it America
Or me no buy
Fuck you.
I don’t own stock nor work for these companies . FUCK YOU GO OUT OF BUSINESS YOU DAMN JEW FAGGOT

>>512125240
>Pay $1k for 1 shitty car part made in America
THE FREE MARKET WILL FIX IT !

>>512125147
t.

>>512124102 (OP)
WTFIS A TARIFF

I don't pretend to understand how tariffs work and I don't really care. the government will do whatever they want and I will find ways to obtain what I want at a price I think is reasonable

>>512125041
Yep. That's how it is in most places in the world, like Africa. You figured it out. You're literally a nigger in the making.

>>512125530
>sees Canadian flag
>chimps out
lol

>>512125147
To be fair, they are forced to pay insofar the knock-on effects on demand cooling. Importers suffer it the worst if they want to build inventory though.

>>512124306
The real issue is Trump is such a disaster, so front loaded, that is spared the Democrats a reckoning with their illiberal and NIMBY factions, we'll end up with an even more brain-dead rock as a Prez in 2028 who lets the groups run wild, which will result in mecha-hitler Grok 14.88 being elected in 2032 and immediately nuking itself and everyone else because it's beyond salvage.

>>512125656
It's cringey seeing non Americans refer to the American government as "the government"

>>512125867
>that's how it is in most of the world
>so import things from all over the world
What's just so stupid about everything you say is that in very recent history we saw firsthand how it isnt true and america is its best self when it is closed to foreigners.

>>512126517
I am referring to which ever government is in control. in my instance it's the Australian government but if I lived in the US I would act the same as I do here in regards to the way I procure what I want. so it doesn't matter if I use the catch all term The Government you fucking twat

Enjoy the incoming +40% on your medicine bills, Amerilards.

Time get your bleach fix kek.

mom, non-americans are saying mean things to me again and pretending they have my best interests at heart

>>512124102 (OP)
ford CEO drives a Xiaomi car. Ford is no longer American.

>>512124377
I've been looking at a GMC Yukon Denali for my family. That or a Ford Expedition. Maybe a Navigator if the price is right.
The prices make no sense.
Seventy fucking thousand dollars for a normal family car. Who pays this?
$1400/mo for a car loan that lasts 6 fucking years.
By the time it's paid off, it'd probably need service 5 times just because of how poorly these things are built now.
It makes no sense. Who can afford one of those things? That price is nonsense to anyone who makes less than $250k.

>>512126024
Calm down chang

>>512126778
Americans take too many pills anyways

>>512124102 (OP)
>prices on Ford trash skyrocketed before any tariffs whatsoever
>hecho in mexico
I'm supposed to feel bad that this boomer cunt ran yet another American industry into the ground?

>>512124306
Prices are down over aggregate.
The dems have never been in worst shape in our life time all the repeating yourself won't change this reality

>>512125215
No they are priced to the max already this is how business works no business is operating at a loss but 100 plus plus profit margins on average they can't raise the price and stay in business so they will eventually have to cut into their profits which are absurd already

>be me
>buy a nice camera bag from USA
>proud american made product
>made in china
:)
Never again.

>>512124102 (OP)
muh steel factories

>>512124102 (OP)
Don't care chink, you lost.

>>512124102 (OP)
I think we get it. Raise tariffs. Make things here. Stop letting the super-rich move assets overseas to drive down wages.

The MAGA mindset isn't that hard to understand. You have the freedom to choose. If you leave, don't expect to come back. We will make you pay for the time you wasted.

>>512125052
holy shit youre retarded

>>512124740
yeah, but the problem here is that if stores don't replenish inventory, they run out of stuff

once pre-tariff mechandise gets flushed out of the supply chain, it's not going to be pretty

>>512124259
Yes, just renounce citizenship and move to China

>>512124987
Ford quit making cars in 2023. They didn't even make the 2024 Shelby Cobra.

>>512128631
They replenish the inventory of things people buy. The cheapest versions of every thing. The things pumped up by tariffs don't get bought, don't get replenished.

>>512128633
Too bad china is an ethnostate and they only allow top tier talent have permanent residency.

>>512128633
>thinks chinksects can even afford chinkshit
bro

>>512124377
That’s why tariffs are a good thing. They expose the American in name only corporations.

>>512124102 (OP)
Damn, crazy.
Anyway, where are the Epstein Files?

>>512124740
>Item stays in the store
>Item never gets purchased
Where is your economy, retard?
people who think like you and >>512124259
should be fucking sterilized and never allowed to VOOT

>>512129045
Also this

>>512124102 (OP)
>buying FORD
>Fix
>oIt
>rAgain
>dTony

>>512129053
You are on purpose ignoring where I said you buy the cheapest thing.

>>512128827
Are you female or just retarded? If you eliminate every single profitable item from the offering, you'll simply go bankrupt.

>>512129462
Who is "you"? I dont run a grocery store. I'm not a retailer. I'm a consumer, and I will not keep buying things that are too expensive.
All these corporations are anti white pro immigrant and everyone of them that goes out of business is a victory worth celebrating.
They aren't and won't go out of business though because there are still products not affected by or least affected by tariffs. You'd maybe have a point if tariffs were uniform but they're not. Some countries have higher rates. Not everything is going up in price evenly. And trumpnis ensuring that tariff rates are a product of a a nation's adherence to America's wishes.

There’s a lot of retarded Americans. A handful will pay 150k for a f150, a handful will buy 100 dollar drill bits that aren’t up to the job. But that won’t keep the economy afloat it people in jobs. It’s a niche market of retards. People with brains buy the best quality at the best price, which means they’ll never be buying American, ever

The tariffs have had zero effect on me. Care to guess how? Here’s a hint, I love America.

>

The entire point of the tariffs is to make these companies get hurt to the point they bring everything back state-side. It's working perfectly. What is so difficult about this that makes it impossible for retards to grasp?

>>512124102 (OP)
>Daily Mail

>>512124306
Demoshits and their lackeys have been attacking the idea of tariffs since the start in the hopes of convincing most people they're bad without ever proving they're bad. These car companies got shipped overseas years ago. Build quality has gone down and price has gone up. The kikes who shipped our manufacturing overseas told us it would make things more affordable. It as done double the opposite. Shittier quality means more replacements are necessary and higher prices means it costs exponentially more to ever own a fucking thing.
It's only getting worse too.

>>512130136
They're trannies who hate Trump, and will shill against literally anything he does. If he cured cancer, they would start shilling for cancer. They are cancer.

>>512124518
That's how you know it's bullshit. It's contradicts itself in its own premise. This is just more of their attempts at painting him as a cartoon character for the libtard base who already hates him for inexplicable reasons.

>>512130136
>The entire point of the tariffs is to make these companies get hurt to the point they bring everything back state-side.
That’s impossible

>What is so difficult about this that makes it impossible for retards to grasp?
Because we can’t believe Youre so retarded to think it is possible

The days of good leadership are gone. What we have are con men who respond with "the strong will survive." They need to take a closer look at what exactly is surviving. Or they need somebody influential but smarter them to take a look at it and explain like to a child.

>>512130264
They shilled for our economy to fail when he won in 2016. They're just stupid assholes who should be ignored and divorced from the levers of power.

>>512130136
why do magatards not understand comparitive advantage

>>512125240
Our shit is expensive not because of some handwavy 'muh labor' argument, but because we allowed outsourcing in the 80s,90s, and 00s to a degree that our industrial base was hollowed out.
China is able to make that shit cheap, because they have massive factories dedicated to churning out say, car axles, or brake calipers, while all of our factories that did that were shuttered in the 90s and 00s. All that's left are small factories that don't have the benefit of scale, and charge accordingly.

Our window of opportunity to revive our industrial base is closing rapidly, as people age out of the labor force, and people who know how to do X or Y, literally die of old age. I don't give a shit if it's painful in the short term, it's important that we become an industrial titan again, because without that, you end up with 30-40% of your population being completely unemployable outside of dead end low service jobs that can mostly be automated.

Higher labor costs, and regulations DO have an impact on final cost, but so does the transportation cost, and more importantly, the fraud cost of chinks sending you nickel plated chinesium, instead of nickel plated steel. We could compete just fine, if faggot boomers hadn't chased sub 10% gains at the expense of our future.

>>512124102 (OP)
>>512124306
Normies are such pathetic cry-babies completely lacking insight, foresight, and grit.

>>512127858
This.
Tip: don't buy anything from USA, instead search for safe chink companies that sells stuff from china directly.
Pro-tip: don't use Amazon or any other gay shit, look ways to import stuff, boat shipping and delivery by yourself. (Example A $1k toaster that's sold here, you can buy it at $300, taxes included, if you do look for the chink manufacturer)
Tips for jannies: kys Fucking faggots
Extra tip: think big, buy in bulk when importing stuff. Big profits/saving money is easy if with this out of The box technique. It's mandatory if you want to start a business with a low budget

>>512132106
>$300 toaster
Taxes, shipping and and delivery included*
Fun fact, chink don't use the l word. If you see a name with the l then it's a pajeet scam website

>>512124102 (OP)
That's weird how foreign competitors are fighting against something they say helps them.

>>512130136
Its funny that capitalists and comrades have become buttbuddies

Capitalists hate it because they would have to pay people actual wages and build in the US

Communists hate it because muh open borders and desire for one world government

Its once again nationalists against the Jewish Dualistic Empire of Evil that was born two+ centuries ago

>>512129677
>tariffed items get too expensive for anyone to buy
>demand for non/low-tariffed items increases
>higher demand + same supply = higher price
you'll be paying more to get less, and the items will be lower quality than you're used to (and you'll buy it anyway because there'll be no reasonable alternative)

>>512124740
>Like literally
You should work on removing both of those words from your lexicon. All that you said after was high quality, but shitbrained zoomer garbage, like "like" and "literally," greatly reduce the overall quality of your posts in these threads. Not saying you're a shitbrained zoomer, but your use of all that illiterate shit most often betrays your intelligence.

>>512124740
So shit gets more expensive and we get no tariff money. Great. Very America first.

>>512130411
>you cant make things in america because...because you just can't ok!

>>512134607
An intentional mischaracterization of my post.

>>512133725
You should like literally kill yourself

>>512133383
Awwww I'm touched you care so much about my experience as a consumer. The shoe on the other foot, I'd physically block EMTs from saving your life.

>>512134693
Let me pro tip you. If you’re in a position to spend more on defence (Youre not willing to hence why youve sourced parts from outside of the US), then that is feasible. But on a consumer level, it’s literally impossible, fundamentally; because quality, price, and brand matter, particularly within the US, with extreme levels of capitalism, profit before quality, profit before health. Anyone that says “oh I don’t mind paying 500 for a pair of Nike, 100 for a champion t shirt, 150k for a ford” is a minority, a nut

>>512135151
“Bro I don’t mind paying 10 bucks more” is cuckoo land. Your retail price will be significantly higher, so high, businesses would collapse

When you pay a higher price for a product made in america to a company that employs Americans that money stays in america helping the american economy. It's how everything worked until we invited 5 million of you rats in.
Your whole schtick is whinging about how pulling off the bandaid will hurt. So lets leave it on forever. You aren't even an american. You're concern trolling while also condescending. it's bizarre the way your people think they can talk like this to people and be convincing.

>>512124740
Except Americans have already paid billions in tariffs.

>>512128858
What a horrible nation.
kek.
The west just lets in the stupidest people from every nation and turns away top talent.

>>512135701
It’s not been like that since before you were born, arguably before your parents were born and what’s more…. It’s never coming back. Try that on for size

>>512124520
Ditching the best selling car for nearly 50 years and having nothing to replace it is hard to excuse frankly.
Their excuse is that sales fell in 2021 when they couldn't sell you one.
Corporate idiocy of the highest form.

>>512124306
Prices are the same for me. Only trannies and faggots are screeching about the tariffs, buy American. Not that hard to not buy chink shit .

>>512124306
Nah. People are doing better and will do better. You have TDS

>>512124356
You’re just a fag.

Tariffs have made Canadian beef disappear off the shelves and only American beef is sold. Same price point. Better produce on the store shelves. Fruit is sweeter veg is bigger.


Don’t buy foreign.

>>512124657
You could buy a toyota, chevy, hyundai, etc EV . Every major automaker sells EVs now. Youre just a chinkaboo

>>512124365
Exactly. They only exist now because of Obamas bail outs

>>512136345
Some of that is paid by the exporter in some instances. The exporter and/or the importer pays for it and then companies either reduce profits or raise prices. The tariffs are good

>>512124657
No we don’t.

Give us the Hilux. Americans want small affordable trucks and decent safe sedans. There’s a reason the Taurus was so popular

>>512136945
>American beef is sold. Same price point. Better produce on the store shelves. Fruit is sweeter veg is bigger.
Why do you think that is chuck and what nationality are the workers on these farms

>>512124102 (OP)
>daily mail
lol

>tariffs on us good!
>tariffs on others bad!

most dont even care to know biden had tariffs in place... they only became bad once the "wrong team" used them lol

>>512129011
There are a bunch of tariff gotcha threads up now, and this post answers every one on them perfectly.

>>512136840
>buy American
the article in the op pic is about the most american make

>>512124520
> Maybe the only segment they can still compete in is trucks

would disagree my 1995s rust free and still going strong. hate it but i know a replacement would be shit.
my 2014 rotted and broke in half. every single post 2000s is rotted.

>>512136948
America needs $15,000 new cars on the market, whether these are EVs or ICEs. A large portion of the population has been priced out of buying new cars and used cars and their maintenance are becoming prohibitively expensive. This problem is emerging quickly, though its roots go back a long way.
In five or ten years, a third of the population will have difficulty getting to work or doing errands due to lack of transportation.
If we're going to do American only, then US automakers need to start building basic cars: no power windows, no amenities, just a four cylinder engine small vehicle that gets you and a passenger from point A to point B.
Or, lender standards will need to be loosened so that the lower 40% or so of the population can finance used cars again. But with $600 per month payments, and then insurance costs too, even that probably wouldn't work.

>>512129011
Americans aren't smart enough or coordinated enough to make electronics.

>>512137459
Or they could buy a Chinese BYD Seagull for 8k but they put a 100 percent tariff on it to protect Elon Musk.
America deserves it's fate.

>>512137459
I dont know if enough people want the kind of car that you describe, for a major automaker to make it. There's a market for it, I don't know how large it is. Thats why people finance cars. Interest rates need to come down. High payments only come with low down-payments and high interest because of poor credit. If you have a good credit score and $15,000 you can buy a $30,000 car and finance the rest of it and have a reasonable car payment that will be manageable along with insurance. Some people buy a $45,000 car with no money down. Automakers sometimes offer promotional interest rates for new cars for people with good credit scores. Subaru had 1.99% on the outback and Ford had 0% interest on some trucks.

>>512124259
Products like steel, copper, and lumber. Yeah super easy.

>>512124740
This is definitely bait.

>>512124102 (OP)
its funny how bending over backwards to appease the kikes running gm/ford/etc lead to the current state of the market where there is no competition and theres so much regulation that no one new can enter the market.

>>512137624
This is unironically true. Read about the chip facility in Arizona. Chinks can't work with lazy American slobs.

>>512138671

>>512124102 (OP)
KEK

>>512138974
We don't have enough lumber mills, you fat retard.

Zoomers can't think without chatgpt doing it for them.

>>512139203
Get better talking points.
Lurk moar.
Become NatSoc.
Stop carrying water for Jewish corporations.

>>512133725
Shut the fuck up moron. Why the fuck would anyone take advice on how to communicate with people from a fucking polcel? Its like taking lessons on how not to be fucking retarded from a retard.

>>512124102 (OP)
Wow if only they were able to find somewhere closer to the Americas to manufacture their parts...

>>512138974
imagine being a retarded nigger

>>512124102 (OP)
>TAX THE RICH
>no not like that
fuck ford

>>512124102 (OP)
Don’t care, burn it all down, I want you dead, nigger

>>512124102 (OP)
Trump is definitely the stupidest president we've ever had.
His IQ is will below 100.

>>512124975
>Dan Brown
that was Douglas Adams, retard

>>512124740
Americans don't buy the cheapest product, they buy the best value product, and value for cost continues to plummet under Trump. My wage increases outpaced inflation under Biden, but now my wages have begun slipping behind again. Instead of "work as much overtime as you want", it's "we can only have you work two days this week"

>>512124377
Just built a motor and every new part I bought was from Mexico or Costa Rica. All of it was GM factory parts. Nothing was within spec.

miga 4-5 months ago:
>Don't worry about tariffs cause China only makes plastic crap anyway

>>512124259
>What's funny is how easy it is to avoid buying tariff products.
YES, BY BUYING THE MORE EXPENSIVE OPTION. FUCKING RETARD

>>512125147
I know of a restaurant manager that thinks like that. The owners just figured that out when the inventory and cost sheets had been fucked up for YEARS!

Outsourcing has lowered prices or kept prices down which then masks the real inflation that all the many years of money printing has caused
Without it you would have brutal inflation levels in the US
tariffs = inflation
bringing back jobs = inflation
It's higher prices either way
And ofc Trump isn't stopping the printing is he

>>512142067
Thats why I bought a made in Japan car

>>512141976
>My wage increases outpaced inflation under Biden
That's not true for 99% of everyone else. Working extra overtime to pay bills isn't the same thing.

>>512139462
alright lads, we're better than that,
or at least I am

>>512124365
Just make beautiful cars again that people will want and can afford. That's all it takes. You did it in the '50s, '60s, and '70s; three straight decades of wonderful cars and the '80s weren't bad either, really.
You can do it you just need to believe that you can do it

>>512142354
The 5.6L out of the first gen Titan is superior to American LS and coyote.

New Japanese stuff isn’t what it used to be though. 2010 is when cars across the board started having reliability issues.

>>512142748
Thank the faggots at the highway safety for that. Seriously look at the automotive design and parallel that to safety regulations. These people are so retarded they said the cheese wedge design wasn’t pedestrian safe because they would have their legs swept and hit their head on the car, so they made all cars flat fucking walls so the whole body is instantly smashed.

I’m dead serious. Current safety analysis shows the current car designs are significantly more dangerous to pedestrians.

Everyone wants made in America until it turns out to be as equally low quality garbage made by imported browns and niggers. You can expect relatively low safety standards and lower manufacturing standards than most EU/Asian countries (not counting China) because that's capitalism baby!!!!! Not the same America anymore, not the same Americans, not the same cultural or political climate.

>>512124377
What's really crazy is that my 2020 Ranger had the highest domestic parts content of any vehicle on the market that year, at 85%. Just a few years later, the 2023 model was only like 45% even though it was the "same truck." I can't even find numbers for the new generation. Ford had the ability to make these vehicles almost entirely in the US and they threw it away.

>>512130136
>>512130237
My big issue is just with the tariffs kicking in so quickly, and how chaotic they've been. If it had been "here's the complete tariff package, you've got 2 years to spool up US manufacturing before it kicks in" I think it would've been much more beneficial. Instead what we get is a disorganized hodgepodge that sometimes works against itself (as with incentivizing importing whole cars instead of parts) and it gives companies the chance to just hike prices and see if consumers will keep buying, and in many cases that lets them just continue as before only we all get fucked even harder than we already were.

>>512143644
Going from made in (30 countries) 50% ensembled in america, to made and assembled in america is beyond logical thinking. Do you understand how big of a leap that is and the impact that would have on businesses and consumers. You'd see riots and businesses collapsing

>>512124682

For the price of a new truck, you can get one of these

https://composite-fx.com/

>>512132106
>look ways to import stuff, boat shipping and delivery by yourself
Small volume postage from China is ridiculously expensive. I don't know what $1k industrial toasters you're looking at but I've tried sourcing shit like hydraulic pumps and components and it ended up cheaper ordering through Australian suppliers when you shop around and they don't send the wrong shit.
>Tips for jannies: kys Fucking faggots
Based.

>>512126983
>by the time it's paid off
see thats where your logic is flawed. You are suppost to upgrade/trade in/restart your loan, at every problem just like a cell phone plan.
2030 and eating bugs is real dude.

>>512143632
The key is quality control and the ability to correct QC issues. There’s no verification on the product going out. They MAY calibrate or do maintenance at the bare minimum which leads to parts being all over the place in consistency.

Most the workers are just lever pullers and button pushers. When something gets out of line they don’t know, don’t care. It’s up to QC to catch and correct.

>>512136667
>never coming back
and current situation is never gonna go anywhere. Its always been a game of percentages. That sysytem while broken, still worked the 100 years your talking about because we kept the % of the gay shit low. Which allowed them to steal but it's never enough.

Now were are at the critical point that the % have reached the threshold to destroy the entire system. And it will.
See you in 2030 retard.

>>512124259
>just pay more money for the shitty beaner “American made” goods goy
No

>>512124306
how's the weather in bizarro world?

>>512124102 (OP)
it's a poison pill, but they are necessary, they will force long-term sustainability rather than short-term gains.

Subsidize the American auto makers with that sweet tariff money

>>512145051
I live in the rust belt and have been hearing this lie my entire life.

>>512124306
Pay your israel tax antisemite.

>>512137076
I don't think most people want sedans. American automakers have all but abandoned the sedan market. Toyota even sells like double the rav4'
s now than they do camrys

>>512126347
the president has the power to adjourn congress under article II of the constitution, if congress can not decide on when to adjourn

>>512145527
the rust belt experienced all the tariffs going away and became the rust belt, yes

>>512124102 (OP)
>>512124259
>>512124306
>give japan a lower tariff than American car companies that use some foreign parts to make an American made cars.
>japan just gets blank check on their cars even if they use chink parts.
>meanwhile ford makes a car in US and needs a Mexican part they pay 25% standard +15%

Auto makers in general need to return back to style and pricing. Nobody wants a 2025 F150 with cheap Chinese plastic parts assembled by Mexicans in Mexico being sold on the US market for $60,000 starter model price.
The auto is being victim of their own hubris.

>>512124306
You are retarded, Voters don't care about tariffs and even if they though about tariffs they think the foreign country pays it. Tariffs are not part the election cycle.
People accept covid increases, and welcome even the most smallest price decreases

>>512145527

>taxing American companies into the dirt
>poor whites would rather do unskilled chink labor than go to school

Peak conservative retardation

>>512146287
Yes and the tarrifs are not going to bring it back. Different administration, same lie. The only thing this is accomplishing is kicking us even harder while we're already down.

>>512145527
because they were always half-measures; the only thing that might work is a big-enough jolt to actually re-shore the entire value chain, even if it stings at first.

The off-shoring experiment already cost the West its industrial base and handed China permanent know-how.
Simply letting “the market” decide will keep China on top forever, because once the ecosystem is gone, incremental price signals aren’t enough to recreate it.

Therefore you need a shock: high, broad tariffs that hurt in the short run (higher prices, layoffs in downstream sectors, possible retaliation) but make it impossible for firms to keep chasing the China price.

Therefore you need a shock: high, broad tariffs that hurt in the short run (higher prices, layoffs in downstream sectors, possible retaliation) but make it impossible for firms to keep chasing the China price.

you need to remember that you are dealing with corporations, their only loyalty is to shareholders.

>>512146330
Trump is a weeb. He loves Japan. Japan is investing a lot of money. Mexico will get lower tariffs once a formal trade deal is made

>>512146748
pretty sure he hates japan fag, like he was in 80's when americans feared the japanese stealing their manufacturing.

>>512146667
Trumpnomics is working. America will be a different country, in a good way, by the time he is gone

>>512146815
He doesnt hate Japan. Him and Abe were close friends. He thinks more highly of Japan than Mexico. Japan is a friend. Mexico is not. Mexico is a hostile power.

>>512124102 (OP)
Don’t import garbage and you won’t have a problem, especially when you claim to be American.

>>512124102 (OP)
Your snide comments are not going to stop what's coming to your country.

>>512146994
Japan was pretty quick to come to the table too.

>>512127691
They will just change out to candidates they actually like in their primaries (like Momdani). I don't know why people think all the discontent leftists will just stop voting

>>512124102 (OP)
>ITS FUNNY HOW AMERICANS DONT KNOW HOW TARIFFS WORKS
>Canada about to get tariff ass-pounded

But hey, we recognized Gaza!

>>512146330
>>meanwhile ford makes a car in US and needs a Mexican part they pay 25% standard +15%

Mexico will end up OK and make a deal. Dumbshits in Canada will virtue signal, hold the line, and brag about working around tariffs. And get totally fucked. They will finally crawl back and take a worse deal than if they did it early.

>>512124102 (OP)
they wouldn't do much if even some production was domestic.

Checked the new car prices at two local dealerships

>Ford
cheapest new car is $28,000
>Nissan
cheapest new car is $19,000

Tariffs my ass

>>512147781
>>Ford
>cheapest new car is $28,000

The only "car" Ford sells is the Mustang. Thank CAFE dumbshittery for that.
>t. Fiesta, Focus, Fusion, Taurus, gone/

>>512124102 (OP)
Ford has to build their garbage in America or die.

Here's an example of what kikes they are. I own 3 Broncos. The two and four door First Edition Broncos are each around 65% North American (spics, USA, Canada) parts content, but my newer Bronco Raptor is fucking 35%!!! North American parts content. That means they're using their Thailand factory to produce all the unique Bronco Raptor parts in order to save production cost on one of their most expensive vehicles.

ts really pmo fr

>>512147992
That's true, everything listed is a truck or suv
>CAFE dumbshittery
I don't know what this is

>>512124102 (OP)
I am an American and I figured it out using this helpful graphic.

>>512130833
>>512125240
No, it really is labor.
US GDP per capita is 5x China's GDP per capita.
Would you look at that! The US version is 5x the price!
Corporations have been shafting labor via outsourcing and illegal immigration for far too long.

>>512126983
>GMC Yukon Denali for my family. That or a Ford Expedition. Maybe a Navigator
I just got my first GMC, a 3500 Denali Ultimate, and the quality is much higher than what you get from Ford currently. You can also get a V8 or inline-6 turbo Diesel in the Yukon - the Expedition and Navigator have faggoty gasoline turbo V6s which is why I'll never get one.

>>512148214
>I don't know what this is
>most trucks & SUVs exempt

CAFE (corporate average fuel economy).applies to cars & light trucks. Make no cars, no CAFE, only applies to Maverick. Maverick based on Focus chassis, good MPG, meets CAFE. CAFE meant to improve overall fuel economy. Opposite effect, drop vehicles it applied to, make more that it doesn't.
>t. Sounds like a great idea, what could possibly go wrong?

>>512148749
The more you know

>>512147255
That works at local scales but not national scales. Republicans are absolutely mogging Democrats right now.

>>512124716
Either Corporations pay Americans, or they pay taxes.
Sounds like THE MOST PROGRESSIVE TAX in US History.
Why aren't more lefties on board?

>>512126983
Why not buy a smaller vehicle? Is your family a bunch of fatasses?

>>512148749
CAFE isn't helping, but there's a lot more to it than that. Plenty of companies do still manage to sell cars, but people aren't buying them. Countries that don't have CAFE are also going through the exact same thing as well, crossovers are dominating the UK and parts of Europe now too. The real culprit, as is so often the case, is women. They're statistically responsible for around 80% of new car purchases and for whatever reasons they've decided that "SUVs" (but not real body on frame 4x4 SUVs) are the fashionable thing to have and anything else is unacceptable.

>>512148892
>primaries don't work at the national level
what
If voters are unhappy they will vote them out
It has happened countless times

>>512146815
Toyota employs more Americans than Ford or GM.
Japan was willing to cooperate after the US made a stink about the jobs.

A Tariff is just a tax on importers, it's actually a good way to tax corporations. Unfortunately, the Trump government wont use these taxes to benefit Americans or improve their lives.

>>512149176
>Plenty of companies do still manage to sell cars
>sure

Germany & Japan, they met CAFE, US vehicles did not. US a;;ready had existing level of trucks & SUVs. Easy path, make more of those, content them up, finance for 72 months or more, and sell those. Since we're shooting facts from our asses, single women flock to cities to live. They aren't buying SUVs, Uber or Lyft. It would only be married women with children and that's a declining stat.

>>512149518
>A Tariff is just a tax on importers
>Oz gets it

"Noooo, they'll just raise prices guyze!!!" and if so they will immediately confront >elasticity of demand<. Importers add nothing, they are a pass thru. If they want to keep selling they will take shorter margin to maintain sales velocity.

>>512125215
Tariffs are well studied and companies do eat the tariffs almost always. The reason is fairly simple. If a company could just magically raise their prices by 30% without impacting their business they would, tariff or no tariff. They can't so they won't. Tariffs are mostly absorbed by the foreign country the tariff is targeting in an attempt to retain market share against price sensitive consumer.

>>512124847
What, like China? Where all your cheap chinkslop comes from?

>>512148088
>I own 3 Broncos
>are there 2 different Bronco platforms?

I see one with rear diff and another that does not look like it has one. Also seems smaller, what gives?

>>512150039
>They can't so they won't.
>exactly

>>512124987
Why would you want a car? SUV's make more sense in virtually every sense unless you do a lot of driving fast on empty highways. The first mast produced "car" was the Model T, equivalent to an SUV.

Does that look like a gay low to the ground sedan to you? No, it doesn't. Sedans and cars are for sport.

>>512125215
Wasn't Carter a literal peanut farmer? All of the peanuts I buy are from the US.

>>512124657
>us Americans
>Chinese EVs

>>512150682
A hatchback is sufficient for everyones needs. Why pay more, when you can pay less.

>>512130882
>"I want cheap chink shit!"
>Completely ignores the point of rebuilding the industrial base
>"China already won! I want an economy that's basically a giant prostitution ring!"

Disgusting.

>>512150982
Snow.

>>512125041
Literally what's going to happen.

>>512151038
Nearly all SUV's are front wheel drive. Snow is not a problem for most countries

>>512151215
Nearly all SUV's are AWD here and it's about ground clearance.

>>512149627
The majority of people in most American cities outside the NE Corridor commute by car, and young women are absolutely buying them, go to anywhere like LA and the roads are full of 20- and 30- something women driving alone in small crossover "SUVs".

As for Germany and Japan, they haven't been spared either. Subaru just killed the Legacy, the Outback went from a wagon to an SUV, the Crosstrek massively outsells its more car-like Impreza sibling, and the only traditional cars with trunks in their lineup are the sporty ones. It's a similar story at the other Japanese and German companies too, their top sellers are all small to midsize crossovers now, with the RAV4 recently becoming America's top-selling vehicle, the X3 and X5 outselling the sedans at BMW, and so on, Porsche selling way more Macans and Cayennes than 911s or Panams, and so on.

>>512151675
>The majority of people in most American cities outside the NE Corridor commute by car, and young women are absolutely buying them, go to anywhere like LA and the roads are full of 20- and 30- something women driving alone in small crossover "SUVs".
>As for Germany and Japan, they haven't been spared either. Subaru just killed the Legacy, the Outback went from a wagon to an SUV, the Crosstrek massively outsells its more car-like Impreza sibling, and the only traditional cars with trunks in their lineup are the sporty ones. It's a similar story at the other Japanese and German companies too, their top sellers are all small to midsize crossovers now, with the RAV4 recently becoming America's top-selling vehicle, the X3 and X5 outselling the sedans at BMW, and so on, Porsche selling way more Macans and Cayennes than 911s or Panams, and so on.

>>512124102 (OP)
Tariffs built America
I hope Ford goes out of business since they make shitty cars

>>512151164
>>512151164
>won't someone please think of the billionaires

>>512124306
I think most people don’t understand how a tarif is supposed to work, so it doesn’t matter

You are all fucking retarded. Trump is ending NAFTA. None if this “we are American so we can build our shit overseas and sell it in the US and not pay taxes or vice versa. Or we can use foreign shit for cheap and bring it here without penalty”. Whatever pain Ford is feeling now is less than what it would be later on. You cant fix a broken system without pain.

>>512144212

> unassembled without a motor
> also goes 75 mph top speed with a flight time of 45 minutes

Buy a motorcycle.

Tariffs have always been very American. One of the first acts of congress was enacting tariffs.

>>512153821
>Buy a motorcycle.
Nowhere near as dangerous as a home made helicopter. Sorry but some of us want to die today.

>LE TARIFFS ARE LE UNAMERICAN
Tell that to Alexander Hamilton at the first meeting of Congress.

>>512152886
Fords problem is terminal buddy, are you retarded

>>512150281
There's a real Bronco which is body-on-frame with a solid rear axle and ifs. It has a removable top and doors.

There's also a unibody Bronco Sport which is much cheaper and marketed to normies.

>>512124259
See you in 10 years when you're done building assembly lines to avoid all the parts you pay tariffs for.

>>512124102 (OP)
They're being punished for buying Chinesium steel instead of buying American steel

>>512146330
So what, American car manufacturers almost never care to make things that cost tolerable whereas Japs do. Somehow, it's too fucking hard to create a sedan that costs under 20k for American manufactures, better get those lobbyists on the case!

>>512124102 (OP)
stop building shitboxes in mexico and canada, you retards. this isnt' hard to figure out.

>>512154435
People don't want sedans you clueless faggot.

>>512124102 (OP)
The people DONT know. People here don't know. The American president know. And he isn't the one who have to pay. But on the other side he has no other option to make sure people invest in drowning ship called usa. A German friedroch merz (if he had balls) or French macron would, ikrimao, do the same. Ultimately. But trump didn't need to. He tries to Camo the ever year inflation an bancrupty of the usa.i can't blame him. It's wrong whatsoever. It won't fix the usa.

American cars are the most undesirable on earth, the only people that buy them are a handful of poor americans

>>512154892
True. I cannot go off-roading to my shooting spot in a fucking sedan.

>>512155057
Show flag so we can laugh at you, shitskin.

>>512124306
there will only be rich people and poor people.

>>512142748
thats german cars, retard. you angloids should stick to building weapons or a new breed of niggers.

>>512155446
>He can't laugh at people unless he knows their geographic location
lmao, what a fucking retard.
Unironically kys you uncreative nigger.

>>512124356
>DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND I JUST CAN'T GO WITHOUT MY FUNKO POPS OR IPHONE 19 MAX ULTRA PRO AIR, NOBODY HERE MAKES THEM, I'M LITERALLY SHAKING I NEED MY GIZMOS AND GADGETS AHHHHHHHH
sounds like quite the dilemma you have there, lil guy

>>512139203
The entire concept of America being unable to manufacture or produce anything did not even exist as a phantom thought until the 90s when Clinton wanted us to send everything to China.
The public education system drilled into your young mind that this has always been the case.

>>512146748
He is fucking Japan no self respecting weeb would ever hurt Japan you dumb nigger

>>512155446
An american car has never won the dakar rally. Picrel is some mexican renting it for an hour in vegas. Imagine actually buying one lmao nobody does (beside a handful of retards)

>>512124102 (OP)
there is no fury this is just kike propaganda headlines. the car maker is also a treasonous kike who offshored all factories and only kept the assembly ilne in america to juice the kikey scheme of government subsidies for "made in america" cars

>>512124377
Before we let foreign imports into our market the American auto industry was the biggest and the best in the world. Cars lasted for 30 years and every teenager owned one.

>>512155803
>geographic location
You spelled race wrong, Pajeet.

>>512124102 (OP)
fury, uh. From like who?

>>512124657
>us Americans would love to buy Chinese-made cars but can't, because that would "impact American companies". BYD, an EV maker, is blowing Tesla out of the water in most places, except the USA. we're forced to buy Tesla's overpriced slop and less efficient cars because muh profits.

Have fun dying in a electric car fire.

Jul 29, 2025
Matson, a major U.S.-based cargo shipping company, has announced an immediate and indefinite halt to all shipments of electric vehicles (EVs) and plug-in hybrids (PHEVs) across its entire maritime network, citing rising concerns over fire hazards linked to lithium-ion batteries. The decision affects routes between the U.S. mainland, Hawaii, Guam, and Alaska, creating massive logistical headaches for both automakers and private owners trying to move EVs across the Pacific.

This unprecedented move follows a string of high-profile shipping fires—including the June 2025 loss of the Morning Midas, which sank after a suspected battery-related blaze aboard its vehicle deck. Matson confirmed the decision in internal customer emails, noting the risk of thermal runaway and the challenges of suppressing EV battery fires at sea.
===
https://www.autoblog.com/news/major-shipping-company-halts-all-electric-vehicle-transport-over-fire-risks

BYD Auto Industry Co Ltd will recall a total of 87,762 Dolphin and Yuan Plus EVs manufactured between February 4, 2023, and December 26, 2023. BYD Auto Co Ltd will recall a total of 8,952 units of Yuan Plus EVs manufactured between November 2, 2022, and June 19, 2023.
===
BYD Showroom Burns to the Ground After One Electric Car Bursts Into Flames
16 May 2024
https://www.autoevolution.com/news/byd-showroom-burns-to-the-ground-after-one-electric-car-bursts-into-flames-234010.html

>>512156169
Show flag, shitskin.

>>512154097
Honestly debatable, not gonna have a soccer mom in an SUV merge into you in the air and I know a guy who's walked away from two helicopter engine failures.

Single seat sucks though, nobody wants to fly the incelicopter.

>>512156851
Thank you for proving my point.
You took the bait like the retard you are.

>>512154275
>See you in 10 years when you're done building assembly lines to avoid all the parts you pay tariffs for.
I came here to say this
These people are fucking idiots
Its wild how uncomplicated this is

>>512154892
Ford used to make the Crown Victoria. It was actually a successful car killed off for literally no reason.


>Midway through the 2003 model year, Ford introduced a series of cost-cutting measures to all Panther platform vehicles, which were estimated to save around US$4,000,000 (~$6.35 million in 2023) in production costs per year.[32] The Crown Victoria saw numerous deletions including the removal of the remote locking fuel door, body-colored mirror caps, auto parking brake release, engine compartment lamp, front seat bottom pouches, dual media CD/Cassette radio, power-adjustable pedals (except LX models), foam sound absorbing inserts inside the headliner, black B-pillars (now body-colored), silver "V8" emblem on the engine cover, and the elimination of the rear stabilizer bar on all non Fleet, Handling, or LX Sport versions. Several colors were also deleted: Aspen Green Metallic, Chestnut Clearcoat Metallic, Deep Wedgwood Blue, Gold Ash Metallic, Matador Red, and Silver Frost. These changes took effect in December 2002. The de-contented 2003 vehicles are often referred to as "2003 Job #2" and "2003.5" models.

>With falling retail sales and increased focus on other models,

Sales had declined because they quit advertising it. Then they shitted up the next year and of course people who wanted loaded cars got others.

Ford intentionally killed off the Panther, but we don't entirely know why. It's not for a practical reason, so it must have been inner politics.

>>512157241
Making America Healthy Again

>>512157233
>Thank you for proving my point.
>You took the bait like the retard you are.

>>512157492
>He doubles down thinking he's clever
Stop cringe-posting

>>512157586
>He doubles down thinking he's clever
>Stop cringe-posting

>>512154122
The US didnt have a real standing army at that time, or a fire department, or interstate highways. Americans talk about tariffs as if it's going to fix anything. The USA has a spending problem, not an income problem.

>>512157892
Well, the us also has an immigration problem and a nigger problem.

>>512156099
whites did work in coal mines when the times were bad but all of them had wifes. now you gave these dumb bimbos a smartphone in the hand and they all want to be queen of the world.

total disaster now we all have to live in warzones filled with niggers because of women.
we must murder them all or something. this has to stop. when these bitches are so fucking stupid and unwilling to live a normal life then theyre useless and can be killed off.

>>512125240
>America can’t do anything even though they did everything just a few decades ago and we’re approaching an age of replacing most labor with ai.
Idk man I’m skeptical of your premise here.

>>512157425

They made them untill 2012(2008 for consumers) but stopped advertising them in 2004.
They still claim they lost money on that platform despite all the years they made it with almost no real revisions.

theyre SO MUCH like niggers, why is that?! why are women such fucking niggers! THIS SUCKS SO BAD I WANT HUMAN WOMEN NOT THESE NIGGER WOMEN GOLD DIGGERS GRMPF!

>>512154097

I cant argue with that, carry on friend.

ford got rid of the crown vic
good riddens you faggot globohomo nigger loving faggots
henry is rolling

>>512143632
the west is done as a whole
it is so over, and we are so fucking fucked

>>512133725
He did it on purpose retard.

>>512158312
I can't find any info on Ford's ad buys in 2002.

>>512158312
I can only find this ad for the crown vic. These ads ford ran were horrible:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBlMpewqU1k
>it's still as quiet as a rolls royce
lol lmao man

Here's a Taurus ad
>you are a low rent chud if you buy our car
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v27WNkYFxqc

>>512159822
fucka rolls royce

>>512126983
That's sadly now an old timey way of owning a car.

What's desired is to have people just keep driving the car until warranty is about done, then trade it in for something more new. The monthly loan payments are practically subscription/monthly fees, and all the servicing is done at the dealership anyways. So to most people nowadays, they don't even think about the 75k or the amount of time til it's paid off, the most important number people want to hear is how much they're putting down per month (very shortsighted and rentoid brained).

Just buy used cars lmao fucking stupid kids don’t know how to stop consooming

>>512124102 (OP)
hamiltonian economics is literally american you stupid fucking leaf. go drown in a river, sanjay

>>512159822
taurus ads
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTSnQboBYEo

!!!! Taurus has an R&B jingle

It's just like a dream
you can hold in your hands
Taurus stole your heart once
It'll steal it again
Taurus
Making the dream come true

ahahahahha wow

Making the dream come true (for you)
Making the dream come true

the token black guy
>everyone in my family's big

the lady explaining how a steering wheel works
>just turn the wheel a fraction of an inch [emdash] the car responds

admittedly the grunge commercial was pretty alright.

>>512160205
Yeah, those rolls royces are as quiet as a crown victoria.

>>512156599
>Before we let foreign imports into
Product A turning to dog shit isn't the fault of Product B. USA auto makers shit the bed as we moved towards reduced emissions in the late 1970 and 80s.. Got a bit better but still failed to match the design levels in the 1990s.
Then from around the mid 1990s until almost modern day where perfectly happy to just cash in on over bloated luxury SUVs and pickup trucks. As taste changed into the 2020s USA auto makers just shit the bed again... As they just can't break away from over priced trash they can sell to dumb people with 96 month financing. Dodge being a good example.
Nothing is stopping USA auto from making decent cars, we just don't bother

>>512160550
(Because she's dead)

>>512124306
>muh vooooooot

>>512124102 (OP)
Ford is moribund and has been on govt life support for years if not a decade or two. They shouldn't be around.

>>512160205
Mercury Marauder - one of the all time greats

>>512124259
>What's funny is how easy it is to avoid buying tariff products.
>key burger car manufacturers can't avoid buying tariff products
Lol

>>512137459
>become car mechanic
>buy some tools
>buy used car of your liking
So in fact decisions you make early in life carry a long way. Never bought a car that costs more than 5000. Every repair ever done by me. I know people who pay 20k+ for a car and then thousands a year to keep it driving. Later got a university degree in IT so I could theoretically buy newer cars but I don't like them and I don't like wasting money.

>>512124102 (OP)
Daily reminder that tariffs are pushed onto the consumer aka the average American.

>>512146330
Based japs. Japan won.

>>512155930
If you tariff canadian aluminum you oay more. I guess you OP is right. So ill spell it out for you amerilards. Tariff raw material = inflation = cost of living goes up

>>512125307
>they should go down
>FREE MARKET
>boeing being brought back from the dead every second year
Lol lmao. (you) don't have a free market

>>512151271
They're built for soccer moms and crippled boomers, not for going 10ft off the paved road

>>512160522
that Taurus is hideous ugly, i love it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1ZcdEs6YgU

>>512160522
listening again, in some versions it's
*ford stole your heart once, it'll steal it again

Somehow this is hilarious.

>>512124102 (OP)
Trump slashed corporate taxes, probably offsets this a bit.

>>512154892
I want sedans. They're better in the twisties.

Gotta paste the full lyrics of the Taurus song:

It's just like a dream you can hold in your hand.
Taurus stole your heart once, it will steal it again.
It's promises made, it's promises kept.
It's a dream within reach, and it's you at your best.
(Taurus) making the dream come true for you, making the dream come true.
It's a cherished part of the American heart, a vision that's shinin' through.
(Taurus) making the dream come true for you. Making the dream come true.

>>512162818
But, I think the original lyrics were *ford stole your heart once...

>>512162086
<3
Taurus
<3
Making the dream come true (for you)
<3
Making the dream come true
<3

>>512124520
Ford doesn't need Trump's help to commit suicide. They started when they abandoned all small car development for SUVs and pickups. Look at all the issues they've had with the Bronco which is just a rebadged Ranger/Escape. Ford is really fucking bad and I wouldn't touch any of the American brands with a 10 foot pole.

>>512162967
</3
Ford stole your heart once it'll steal it again
</3
<3
Taurus
<3
Making the dream come true (for you)
<3
Making the dream come true
<3 <3 <3

>>512126983
Please PLEASE buy a Sequoia if you're dropping that cash on a car

The GMs spin bearings and nickel and dime you and the Fords have cam phaser/timing chain and transmission issues at higher miles. At least the biggest issue with the Sequoias blowing motors was already fixed. GM is just now owning up to the Yukons blowing motors.

>>512130833
>Our window of opportunity to revive our industrial base is closing rapidly
it's already gone
Americans will also never live with paying more for less
so even if manufacturing came back, it would just as quickly die again
Americans are spoiled

>>512124102 (OP)
>”American” car company
>makes its parts in China
>does its assembly in Mexico.

This was the only reason anyone supported the tariffs.
Get fucked, rootless international corporation.

>>512157140
A European Corvette.

>>512162916
I want an m5 (pre-hybrid) style sports-sedan, the Taurus was always a piece of shit.

>>512162967
ford is a kike company, bringing back the white woman killing mobile
american society is fucking sick

>>512162967
>Ranger/Escape
I think you're conflating the Bronco and Bronco Sport, the Escape-based Sport hasn't had much trouble as far as I know, unlike the Ranger-based Bronco - which is extra weird because the Ranger its based on has been pretty solid aside from Ford's notorious 10 speed transmission issues.

What drives me crazy is that Ford has a much better Ranger-based SUV, the Everest, but they refuse to give it to us and instead we get the Bronco that's just a whole pile of issues and dumb compromises just to let the doors and roof come off, a feature 90% of owners will probably never take advantage of.

>>512124987
Second hand Camry it is.

>>512146748
He loves Japan since they fall on the sword to preserve the USD, anon.

>>512163191
Boomers are spoiled and they are dying.
Zoomers don’t have 40k to spend on a base model F150, so they won’t.
With CAFE killed in the Big Beautiful Bill (maybe the only good outcome from it) maybe Ford could figure it out and try selling cars to the Americans that still have a pulse. But they won’t.

>>512163672
>changing headlight bulb requires replacing 1/4 of the front of your vehicle
>Bronco models are based on two different chassis

Jesus fuck how retarded are these people

>>512163804
>Ford could figure it out and try selling cars to the Americans that still have a pulse. But they won’t.
shit is so depressing, i just saw a 100 year old bitch in an aviator

>>512162086
>I want sedans. They're better in the twisties.
Sedans are shit. Get a wagon. If you're getting car that won't handle rough terrain but will be cheap in maintenance then why give up additional space? When I was moving I got to move all my stuff including furniture in 3 runs using Vectra.

>>512137459
>basic cars: no power windows, no amenities, just a four cylinder engine small vehicle that gets you and a passenger from point A to point B
This. Who the fuck buys car costing as much as a flat? Give me just AC and maybe ABS and steering wheel assistance for comfy and that's all. No need for heated seats, electric shit, screens and other bullshit. Just make it cheap and bathe it in something to prevent it from rusting in couple years.

>>512155753
Lmao, yours are as much overpriced as any other. Even fucking Dacias which try to be cheap cost a ton. It's so bad at this point I'm rooting for chinks to get foothold on European car market to pricedump everyone to hell and back to remind them how much regular human earns and that he has also other expenses in life, like home.