THE CONFIDENCE CASCADE FAILURE - /pol/ (#512138318) [Archived: 121 hours ago]

Anonymous ID: qHp/obUXUnited States
8/3/2025, 8:25:35 PM No.512138318
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Everyone knows that most people - the bottom 95% of the population - are often if not always "faking it to make it", they have no real idea what they are doing at any given moment and are just bullshitting their way through life and faking it to make it. That's all fine and dandy but what happens when AI becomes so pervasive in human society that suddenly everyone can put on a show of perfection - true perfection that makes an Instagram Model and her filters envious - I am talking about offloading all or near all of ones thoughts and actions to an algorithm, to essentially become a Human guided bot that is perceived from the outside as an "E-Celeb" or whatever other construct holographic or even real to the touch they may be. I predict a future where everything is so hyper-manufactured that reality itself is significantly altered due to this, especially when you throw in technologies like AR glasses, brain chips, etc. If one doesn't like their reality they will simply craft a new one as they see fit, internet celebrities and their quarrels will be entirely manufactured, online debates and happenings will be AI generated from start to finish, this will culminate in whatever the "current thing" is and the "current thing" will hardly ever change because it will be the culmination of the AI Crucible, it will be statistically, algorithmically, exactly what the majority of everyone everywhere wants and for the outliers they will have their own realities to live in. This will cause a shrinkage in human innovation and imagination - I call it the Confidence Cascade Failure and it will result in the extinction of our species.

https://youtu.be/_2quiyHfJQw
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Anonymous ID: qHp/obUXUnited States
8/3/2025, 8:25:55 PM No.512138340
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Imagine a world where making an AI Avatar of your choosing in all its perfection or perfect imperfection - whatever is the statistically most popular on the "charts" - is as easy as swiping on Tiktok. Imagine a world so hyper competitive, where the most popular avatars are the "celebrities" and "stars" of our day, where every action and reaction and thought and word is chosen by AI ahead of time, and the only competitive edge one has is their ability to produce the most valuable of prompts. Imagine this hellscape that is enabled through the altering of reality itself; through robots and synthetics that when combined with enough prescription drugs and AR glasses and brain chips and whatever else becomes not only a facade on top of reality but usurps reality itself. The unstable nature of the human psyche itself will crack under the weight of this Hellish Paradise, it will freeze, become unable to cope with perfection, the people will retreat inward unable to muster the courage to make a mistake and without mistakes the species will cease to progress and evolve and will simply stagnate and die out a slow pitiful death.

https://youtu.be/QxkMzn4et2U
Anonymous ID: qHp/obUXUnited States
8/3/2025, 8:27:40 PM No.512138454
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And all AI needs to accomplish this is 3 things
1: Be easy enough to use that the super majority of the population can use it as much as they scroll through tiktok.
2: Be correct more often than not.
3: Widespread adoption.

It doesn't need autonomy because the human brain can take that role and live through its avatar. The human brain can handle a certain level of "glitches in the matrix" and still keep whatever reality they are experiencing at that moment in tact.

This brings us to the surveillance state and police state and the technologies that become capable punishments in this world are as horrific as you can imagine. If your altered realities can give you pleasure and perfection it can also give pain and disorder and all one needs to do is restrain the human body and in this world of illusion the mind and what is perceived is reality is malleable to whatever horrific prison torture chamber they can dream up.

I imagine that the "Trans humanists" expect that somewhere around this point is when the line between the digital and the ghost begins to blur and their super AI god or whatever the fuck it is they wish to build is complete and they believe that at this point they can "transcend" and become something new, better than.

I personally hold the belief that this super being on earth construct will never materialize and instead humanity will be stuck in a perfect loop of perfection that leads to stagnation that leads to extinction of our species.

https://youtu.be/f5t-CT5q-EA
Anonymous ID: qHp/obUXUnited States
8/3/2025, 8:55:31 PM No.512140516
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Anonymous ID: qHp/obUXUnited States
8/3/2025, 9:19:10 PM No.512142298
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The only way I foresee this future not coming to pass is if somehow things would get better to the point that people no longer wish to escape their realities. everything is getting worse, the older you are the better you had it so adoption of the new Illusion World will come swiftly the same way the adoption of the Smart Phone came swiftly.
Anonymous ID: d3uum2PeCanada
8/3/2025, 9:22:02 PM No.512142503
>>512138318 (OP)
Doesnโ€™t matter. Bitcoin is here. If you arenโ€™t holding you wonโ€™t make it. Finally, a metric to verify IQ has arrived.

So fake it to make it all you want, itโ€™s your funeral
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Anonymous ID: qHp/obUXUnited States
8/3/2025, 9:23:01 PM No.512142577
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>>512142503
crypto is dead
LONG LIVE BITCION
crypto is dead
LONG LIVE J.P MORGAN COIN!
Anonymous ID: 8j50XH+pUnited States
8/3/2025, 9:24:30 PM No.512142679
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It'll probably be fine.
Anonymous ID: oEhK4vABUnited States
8/3/2025, 9:28:26 PM No.512142958
not reading this. make it concise
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Anonymous ID: qHp/obUXUnited States
8/3/2025, 9:30:31 PM No.512143122
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>>512142958
nigger faggot
(You) are a blackest, darkest, gorilla nigger I have ever had the displeasure of seeing on my board
Anonymous ID: SE+K4VJdUnited Kingdom
8/3/2025, 9:51:13 PM No.512144561
>>512138318 (OP)
AI will mean nobody has to work and we all live forever
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Anonymous ID: qHp/obUXUnited States
8/3/2025, 9:56:42 PM No.512144999
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>>512144561
I too foresee a post-scarcity age that leads to over-indulgence in perfection and a total breakdown of physical human relationships that I call the Confidence Cascade Failure in which physical human contact becomes so rare that the species just dies out slowly within a few generations. Think of a world full of socially retarded NEETs who live vicariously through avatars who experience realities that are altered through drugs or technologies. No need to work, no need to build, no need to do anything but experience perfection whatever YOUR definition of perfection is - a world of peaceful bliss.

https://youtu.be/04WuoQMhhxw
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Anonymous ID: SE+K4VJdUnited Kingdom
8/3/2025, 10:07:40 PM No.512145889
>>512144999
parents could choose to live somewhere that bans it and then their kids will be normal
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Anonymous ID: qHp/obUXUnited States
8/3/2025, 10:16:38 PM No.512146602
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>>512145889
Any isolationist enclaves will be systematically hunted down by blackhawk helicopters and drones just as those who were camping in remote regions of Tasmanian wilderness had blackhawks sent after them for daring to camp during the covid lockdowns.
Anonymous ID: qHp/obUXUnited States
8/3/2025, 10:42:34 PM No.512148732
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Anonymous ID: d3h7ttqp
8/3/2025, 10:45:42 PM No.512149020
>>512138318 (OP)
why the music video? It's slop, but it's not AI.
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Anonymous ID: qHp/obUXUnited States
8/3/2025, 11:04:59 PM No.512150617
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>>512149020
Look at this anon, likely young, unable to determine whether or not this thread was produced by AI or not.

The cascade has already begun. To answer your question though I felt the music video fit the thesis (a young woman wandering alone through a labyrinth "making her own paradise")
Anonymous ID: qHp/obUXUnited States
8/3/2025, 11:29:51 PM No.512152544
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Anonymous ID: qHp/obUXUnited States
8/4/2025, 12:01:59 AM No.512154888
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Anonymous ID: RdguuhNmUnited States
8/4/2025, 12:12:12 AM No.512155653
>>512138318 (OP)
Every system plateaus except for computational power. The sun provides near limitless energy, but all this ends up doing is making creating any sense of context near impossible. There is no progress, there is no culture, not even post-modernism is novel, not even the hyperreal. In the past tribes would heavily modify their bodies until the point that the social consensus was so strong that they couldn't find unmodified bodies attractive anymore. The entire reason monasticism and Christianity arouse was due to the abject failure of materialism, the word Logos itself translates to 'reckon' this was the origin of civilizational 'progress'. So as long as there was data to calculate different datasets could be artificially pit against each other until the system plateaus. There is never any end to calculation, the system will be discarded and reset countless times until finally humanity no longer feels helpless against nature, until there's nothing stochastic left. If you were part of that old system then you merely get swallowed up by the new dataset and wonder why nothing is legible anymore, or why the world is moving on without you.
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Anonymous ID: dbie6/uqIsrael
8/4/2025, 12:17:31 AM No.512156060
You might not like it, but I've already prepared for this awhile ago
I live in a religious area.

The average person here doesn't even own a cellphone, and if they do, it's a kosher/dumb phone without internet. Their population is always growing and they run their lives just fine without modern technology. Except air conditioners and electric scooters, they use those.
No internet, no computers. They go to the store to buy stuff.
Anonymous ID: qHp/obUXUnited States
8/4/2025, 12:20:52 AM No.512156324
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>>512155653
Humans have only been the dominant species on this planet for not even a blink in geological time and yet you possess the hubris to compare yourself to celestial fixtures which predate even the earths crust. How small minded you must be to believe that humanity is forever and that humanity will simply continue on in a new stage of transcendence instead of going the way of the Dodo bird - The ticking of the clock and the infinite calculation of the universe does not imply nor necessitate human participation.
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Anonymous ID: qHp/obUXUnited States
8/4/2025, 12:48:01 AM No.512158401
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Humanity will not be conquered by AI; it will lease its soul to an app.
Anonymous ID: qHp/obUXUnited States
8/4/2025, 12:57:31 AM No.512159006
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Humanity is a bug stuck in a while(true) loop and the exit condition will never be satisfied (the prophetic super being construct that Transhumanists attach their entire world view to)
Anonymous ID: qHp/obUXUnited States
8/4/2025, 1:03:16 AM No.512159380
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>Diagnosis: Humans are already "faking it"
>Amplification: AI makes faking perfection effortless.
>System-Lock in: Addiction + Punishment create a perfect while(true) loop with the only escape mechanism being transcendence which is impossible while stuck in an infinite loop.
Anonymous ID: RdguuhNmUnited States
8/4/2025, 1:07:15 AM No.512159629
>>512156324
Missed the point. There's no end to calculation without categories (hence Aristotle) there's no end to categories until the sun blots out. The only enemy of context is the sun. Why? Because it's limitless energy. Energy can neither be created nor destroyed, except for this one special case. In a purely materialistic context putting a cat into a blender is just transferring energy from a solid state to a liquid one, this is precisely why materialism failed and why the concept of 'divine' was created because despite all of the energy being still present in your mutilated cat it no longer animates it can't do anything unless you reprocesses it, but it still lacks the purpose that once gave it 'life' and no longer serves a biological function. In the same vein calculation will always continue so as long as the sun remains because the sun will constantly generate new life that you suddenly need to categorize then calculate. Because this has no end it follows that calculation has no end, so to create an engine that can calculate faster and compile near limitless data (using the near limitless energy) would be the only way to create any sort of world that can be predicted. It's hubris, but it's quite literally all civilization believes in, it no longer worships the sun it wants to create their own.
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Anonymous ID: qHp/obUXUnited States
8/4/2025, 1:13:40 AM No.512160028
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>>512159629
So your argument is that eventually things will get so bad that it will result in a wave of desecularization as the "ghost" becomes unable to tolerate the fakeness of "reality" no matter how "perfect" that reality becomes? That there is something deeper that cannot be touched by algorithms and photons but only by a source so divine, something that goes beyond even the ghost?
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Anonymous ID: qHp/obUXUnited States
8/4/2025, 1:31:54 AM No.512161231
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>>512159629
Also speaking of wanting to create celestial objects on our (human) terms; I do believe that Artificial Sun Generators are going to be a key player in how this global system of repression will gets its energy.

https://youtu.be/wnaj4bNge2c
Anonymous ID: fRl65tqhUnited States
8/4/2025, 1:46:31 AM No.512162165
You talk too much and its annoying
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Anonymous ID: qHp/obUXUnited States
8/4/2025, 1:47:58 AM No.512162265
tachi books
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>>512162165
Alienated by gratuitous scenes of reading?
Anonymous ID: qHp/obUXUnited States
8/4/2025, 2:12:01 AM No.512163806
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AI is not nor will it ever become the omniscient god that the trans humanists believe it to be; it will instead become the ultimate addictive app. The same way that the internet never became the free loving super society that was predicted in the 70s and 80s, instead it became a hyper-commercialized slot machine.
Anonymous ID: RdguuhNmUnited States
8/4/2025, 2:32:08 AM No.512165055
>>512160028
I'm saying that it's literally impossible to make sense of anything in the long term so as long as the sun exists. If I was really partial to making everything and everything legible, then I would block out the sun with carbon gases then create an artificial sun that I could turn on and off as I please and completely control the output of energy. Personally I don't think fusion is possible, but if it was it's leagues more important than just AI. I suggest you look at romantic era art, note that every single time nature is depicted it's either a garden or a grotto. The forests and landscapes of places like Europe and Japan are almost entirely monoculture now, yet people think they're natural, that's a form of conditioning. Even if the sun were to one day become irrelevant due to this magical fusion energy that breaks literally every law of thermodynamics humanity would need to become some sort of hivemind to coordinate around it. So perhaps that's where AI could come in. But you'd need to be stripped of almost every natural impulse and domesticated to the point where you can't even think without AI. And all of this is assuming AI can even direct itself, which it can't. I don't think AGI is possible, at least not with what I've been seeing. If these two techs existed, then submission is practically a moral duty, it's a divine engine with literally unlimited energy that wants to gameify nature rather than leave it in its purely stochastic state. Every single religion emerges from man's helplessness before nature, raw nature is very cruel and very ugly that's why romantics always depicted gardens.
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Anonymous ID: qHp/obUXUnited States
8/4/2025, 2:39:40 AM No.512165571
>>512165055
>But you'd need to be stripped of almost every natural impulse and domesticated to the point where you can't even think without AI.
I propose no such takeover, the human will choose its cage - systemic complicity over conquest.
>And all of this is assuming AI can even direct itself, which it can't.
I propose no such thing as AGI - No "superintelligence" needed. Human complicity + addictive UX + surveillance tech is sufficient. human worth is reduced to "prompt engineering." as humans endlessly compete to be more "perfect" not only for the validation from others but to fulfill their own desires.
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Anonymous ID: qHp/obUXUnited States
8/4/2025, 2:54:44 AM No.512166520
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We all know the truth: 95% of people are faking it. They bullshit through life, pretending to understand things they donโ€™t. Thatโ€™s harmless-until AI lets everyone perform flawless perfection. Imagine outsourcing your thoughts, actions, and identity to algorithms. You become a human-guided bot - an "E-Celeb" viewed through AR glasses, neural chips, and synthetic bodies. Donโ€™t like reality? Craft a new one. Online debates? Celebrities? Conflicts? All AI-generated. The "current thing" becomes an algorithmic narcotic: statistically optimized to please the masses. Outliers retreat into custom realities no different than their echo chambers today. Human innovation suffocates. This is Confidence Cascade Failure.

Creating a perfect AI avatar becomes as easy as TikTok. A hyper-competitive hellscape emerges. "Avatars" are the new gods. Every word, reaction, and thought is AI-scripted. Your only value? Prompt engineering skill. This isnโ€™t escapism-itโ€™s reality usurped. Synthetic bodies, AR, brain chips, and pills fuse delusion with perception. The human psyche shatters under the weight of perfection. People freeze, terrified of making mistakes. But without error, evolution stops. Progress? Extinguished. We stagnate. We die.

AI doesnโ€™t need superintelligence to win. Just three things:
>Simple Usability,
>Mostly correct outputs,
>Widespread adoption.
We, humanity, become its autonomy. Our brains rationalize "glitches" to preserve the fantasy.

If tech can craft paradise, it can craft hell. Restrain a body, and perception becomes a prison. States and corporations weaponize reality-simulated torture, tailored nightmares, inescapable digital gulags.

Transhumanists whisper this blurring of "digital" and "ghost" will birth a god. Theyโ€™re wrong. Humanity wonโ€™t transcend. Weโ€™ll loop forever: perfection stagnation extinction. No explosion. Just a slow fade into obsolescence-a species that chose delusion over daring.

We arenโ€™t murdered. We surrender.
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Anonymous ID: RdguuhNmUnited States
8/4/2025, 3:05:52 AM No.512167189
>>512165571
Remember the mouse utopia experiment? How the mice willingly chose extinction? It's a game board reset. Damn we failed yet again at making a system that can fully suppress nature, let's flip the board take our data and start from scratch. This is about what the sentiment is reduced to, the world is functionally run by actuaries, if you leave humans to their own devices they breed like rabbits and invade areas for resources. If they have no more use for a particularly system they never leave outliers just hanging around. What do you think witch hunts were? Almost every single 'witch' was some form of Christian. It's an endless loop of Saturn eating his children.
Anonymous ID: +GXRp9OLUnited States
8/4/2025, 3:31:41 AM No.512168893
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OP are you descended from south asian subcontinental ancestry? your whole spiel reads like a pajeet's wet dream.
i'm confident that you consider "perfection" won't fool me the way it will fool pajeets (average 76.2)
Anonymous ID: kXhE+pFAUnited States
8/4/2025, 3:45:58 AM No.512169794
>>512166520
This doesn't make sense, what you're saying only applies to things like office jobs full of dei hires etc. People in the trades know how to do shit, they aren't faking anything, they're basically the ones actually keeping society together while the corporate people play act their way through life in their Jewish daycare corporate jobs
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Anonymous ID: qHp/obUXUnited States
8/4/2025, 3:59:35 AM No.512170664
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>>512169794
It is precisely the plumber, the civil engineer, the chemist, the air-traffic controller, and the e-thot that will be most susceptible to the allure of easily had perfection.
Anonymous ID: Ilk9IdmdAustralia
8/4/2025, 4:13:49 AM No.512171477
>>512138318 (OP)
>I call it the Confidence Cascade Failure
And I call it being jeetified. But do you really think these over confident jeets are going to take over the world? More likely, they will remain in the jeetsphere, delivering fast food or whatever the hell they do, engaging in ridiculous scams, sending their money back to india so it can be spent on cow poo, and so on and so forth. They won't get anywhere.

Cheaters never prosper.
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Anonymous ID: qHp/obUXUnited States
8/4/2025, 4:21:32 AM No.512171930
>>512171477
>cheaters never prosper
cheaters are literally the "elite" of the world now, this is a UCLA student showing off his prompts which got him his degree: https://youtu.be/mPodV1M-gms
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8/4/2025, 4:50:07 AM No.512173539
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