Christianity's all children's book morals and a personal sky‑daddy that keeps you trapped in dualistic thinking. You're either saved or damned, God is totally other, your ego stays boss of your life. But Buddhism actually kills nihilism by embracing emptiness as the ground of everything and breaking the self down to let real compassion flow. It doesn't plug another metaphysical band‑aid over Western ego trip, instead it nukes the whole ego, dissolves the subject/object split, and reveals the organic, interpenetrating nature of reality. No more Cartesian zombies, no more being stuck in affirmation/negation hell: form is emptiness, emptiness is form. You get impersonal personality, zero‑self rooted in dependent co‑origination, and from that place a genuine, self‑less love for all beings. Christianity just can't compete, it's too mired in theism, guilt, and this backward Western obsession with linear history, whereas Buddhism gives you a timeless, life‑affirming path out of Western culture's existential abyss.

>>512203515 (OP)
I like the Journey to the West it's based and spawned Dragon Ballz and cool shit that teaches morality lessons. I just prefer LOTR and the bible, k thanks.

>>512203515 (OP)

I don't believe you.

>>512203515 (OP)
Truth seeking is good. There are different ways of seeking truth, as Hinduism recognizes in its four yogas. One of these is through words, ie reading, discussing etc. For this path it's absolutely essential to have a foundation of grammar, logic and rhetoric, ie the Trivium.

https://archive.org/details/logicorrightuseo00watt

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Yogas

>>512203515 (OP)
Zen is cool

Me when I don't know anything about Christianity nor Buddhism

>>512203515 (OP)
Indeed.

>>512203515 (OP)
Buddhism = Christianity - Christ

>>512203515 (OP)
path to enlightenment of whiteness BTFO path to salvation from whiteness

>>512203515 (OP)
Buddhism = avoiding suffering
Christianity = avoiding sin

You can practice buddhism in Hell. I will live with my God in Heaven.

>>512203515 (OP)
>An atheist faggot that doesn't like Christianity
Spinning your tired all day in mud has truly captured your attention like a true cousin fucking spic

>>512203515 (OP)

the reason buddhism is so strongly pushed today is because it's "solution" to human suffering isn't to actually fight evil and improve the world but to literally "own nothing and be happy"

it's peak globohomo "religion" for the libtarded masses

>>512203515 (OP)
Christ is King. But of course, you would rather listen to some Leftist protestant sects with actual no background in anything other than "muh feelings" that does everything against Christ, instead of following the Catholic Church.

>>512203515 (OP)
>Buddhism > Christianity
Low bar.

>>512203515 (OP)
Christianity operates through psychological enslavement mechanisms designed to create dependency and suppress critical thinking. The core doctrine that humans are inherently sinful and require external salvation creates a foundation of shame and helplessness that makes followers psychologically vulnerable. The concept of eternal damnation for wrong beliefs instills paralyzing fear, while the promise of salvation through faith alone discourages rational inquiry. This system deliberately cultivates what psychologists recognize as learned helplessness - believers are taught they cannot trust their own judgment, cannot achieve spiritual progress through their own efforts, and must surrender their critical faculties to religious authority. The emphasis on "blessed are those who believe without seeing" explicitly rewards intellectual submission, while doubt is framed as moral failing or satanic influence.

Buddhism, is fundamentally designed to liberate consciousness from psychological bondage through direct investigation of mental processes. Rather than demanding belief in external saviors or supernatural claims, it provides practical methods for observing how the mind creates suffering through attachment, identification, and conceptual thinking. The Four Noble Truths function as a psychological diagnosis and treatment plan, while meditation practices train practitioners to see through the illusions that create mental suffering. Where Christianity teaches dependency on external authority, Buddhism teaches self-reliance through understanding the mechanics of consciousness itself. The Buddhist concept of "no-self" directly dismantles the ego-structures that make manipulation possible, while the emphasis on impermanence prevents attachment to any fixed beliefs or authorities. This creates practitioners who are psychologically inoculated against the very mechanisms - fear, shame, dependency, and intellectual submission - that authoritarian systems exploit.

>>512207306
>You can practice buddhism in Hell. I will live with my God in Heaven.

I FUCKING HATE THIS

Why do you assume someone else will go to Christian Hell if they don't even believe in christianity??

Everyone has such shitty boring opinions about Christianity. Have you actually read scripture? Learned the historical context? Read ancient commentaries? Listened to clergy?

>>512208715
Because you are a weak cunt, and I will boil you alive.

>>512203515 (OP)
Christian ideal is normies. Buddhist ideal is a neet. The choice is obvious.

>>512208957
Many self-professed "Christians" haven't either

>>512210356
Yeah, I know. My own mother didn't even know about the resurrection at the end of time. She thought heaven was forever.

>>512210504
Yeah God makes earth 2.0 because he fucked up earth 1.0

>>512210504
>She thought heaven was forever.
This. Both Heaven and Hell are transitory locations

>>512210698
The hellish part of Hell is not the torturing, its Eternity.

The religion of the future will be a cosmic religion. It should transcend personal God and avoid dogma and theology. Covering both the natural and the spiritual, it should be based on a religious sense arising from the experience of all things natural and spiritual as a meaningful unity. Buddhism answers this description. If there is any religion that could cope with modern scientific needs it would be Buddhism.

>>512210674
We fucked it up. He fixes it. We are ultimately a dual natured species of body and soul. We aren't designed to just be spirits like angels.
>>512210698
Heaven is temporary but annihilationism in hell is not confirmed

>>512203515 (OP)
Your talking like a liberal pretending to be right wing.

Please leave pol

>>512210963
The religion of now is the one you will pray when you have to fight the north korea as the west crumble.

>>512210963
I think Christianity does just fine. Science didn't arise out of Buddhists after all.
Romans 2:12-16
12 For as many as have sinned without law will also perish without law, and as many as have sinned in the law will be judged by the law 13 (for not the hearers of the law are just in the sight of God, but the doers of the law will be justified; 14 for when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do the things in the law, these, although not having the law, are a law to themselves, 15 who show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and between themselves their thoughts accusing or else excusing them) 16 in the day when God will judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ, according to my gospel.

>>512210988
>We fucked it up. He fixes it
He created people who would fuck it up and let them. He couldn't fix shit with a flood and he isn't going to fix shit with super earth

>>512203515 (OP)
>Buddhism actually kills nihilism
What's wrong with nihilism?

>>512203515 (OP)
Daily reminder that atheists who claim to be Buddhists are lying. They all drink and fornicate. They do not respect the Buddha's path.

>>512203515 (OP)
In my Christianity I hammer people like you to a cross and set it on fire.

>>512211581
An atheist can be a Buddhist. Buddhism does not require belief in a creator god, and many Buddhists identify as atheists or agnostics.

The term "atheist" in this context typically refers to a lack of belief in a creator deity, which aligns with the Buddhist rejection of a supreme being who created the universe.

The Buddha's teachings focus on the nature of suffering, its causes, and the path to its cessation, rather than on the existence or non-existence of gods

>>512211208
Christianity may offer moral guidance, but when it comes to aligning with modern science and a non-dogmatic understanding of reality, Buddhism still stands out.
It doesn't rely on a creator god or absolute doctrines, but encourages direct experience, personal inquiry, and inner transformation.
That's why it remains deeply relevant in a scientific age not because it gave birth to science, but because it doesn't resist it.

>>512203515 (OP)
buddhism put emphasis on self-control and discipline like christianity, not degeneracy or hedonism, you are brown

>>512211920
>but when it comes to aligning with modern science and a non-dogmatic understanding of reality
science (proto-science), scientific method and scientific revolution born in a christian european context, aka middle ages and early modern period, you are yellow

>>512210963
buddhism is one of the most ignorant and retarded religions when it comes to science, evem worse than Muslims since they at last have contribution on science, buddhism it originates from pajeets... well, should be expected

>>512211832
Do you forfeit drinking, drugs and fornication?

>>512212092
buddhism is just a death cult

>>512203515 (OP)
Nice wall of text. What matters is whether one of them is actually true.
>B-but this one makes me feel more empowered or at peace
Is meaningless. You are trying to reason backwards from a conclusion you want to be significant.
>Y-yeah well Christianity bad blah blah
Great. That's not pertinent to the matter of what (if any) religion to follow. You begin with the big and important questions about the universe and God (or gods) and you work forward using reason.

>>512208498
Nice chat GPT, poonigger

>>512212180
Buddhism in general doesn't conflict with science.

>>512212205
>Do you forfeit drinking, drugs
Yup.
>fornication
I'm married so no and I'm not a Buddhist either

>>512212319
>Buddhism in general doesn't conflict with science.
And when with christianity ? the conflict thesis is already proven false, try harder, besides, buddhism don't have anything to do with science, they are irrelevant to it

>>512203515 (OP)

>>512212449

>>512212069
Yes, the scientific revolution happened in Christian Europe

BUT NOT BECAUSE OF CHRISTIAN THEOLOGY

Many early scientists struggled against church doctrine, not in support of it.
Being Christian in a Christian society was the norm, but that doesn’t mean Christianity caused science.

Once again, Buddhism's compatibility with science comes not from its history, but from its structure no creator god, no dogma, emphasis on direct experience that's exactly what modern science values

>>512203515 (OP)
What’s wrong with dualistic thinking?

>>512212502

>>512211832
>Buddhism does not require belief in a creator god
We have a literal war with plenty of cambodian bodies as sacrifice to the temple of the trinity God of war.

>1:02
https://youtu.be/lyq_5zfYz8M?si=EwiZW8caVvcmVPO4

>>512212327
Fair enough. Either way, you're wrong. No Buddhist identifies as an "atheist" or "agnostic".

>>512203515 (OP)
Buddha say religion is fight for live or death. Choose wisely.

>>512212546
the main problem with buddhism (aside from not being cosmologically true of course) is that it is self-centered. You focus on yourself, for your own benefit, devoid of contact with your Creator, who is not some impersonal force.

>>512212505
>BUT NOT BECAUSE OF CHRISTIAN THEOLOGY
It is actually because of christian theology, especially because scholaticism and folk like saint thomas, Ockham, Roger Bacon, etc... who spread the idea of rational thinking, critics, self-awareness, try again

>>512212652

>>512203515 (OP)
time is the best argument against all religions, especially ones like Christianity and Islam

literally nothing their books say has come true and praying clearly does nothing to influence our lives

>>512212713

>>512212618
The Buddha taught that there is no "overseer" like a God who dictates existence, and the concept of a creator God is considered incompatible with traditional Buddhist doctrine

>>512212628
>Either way, you're wrong
Nope

>>512212628
>No Buddhist identifies as an "atheist" or "agnostic".
They don't need too

>>512212747

>>512212628
Buddhism isn't a theistic religion. It is disappointing that people still get so confused about these simple words but I see your flag. I bet your face is ugly as fuck. Personally I'm white and I tend towards a Buddhist worldview..since you aren't white or even Asian it's understandable that you are wrong about things all the time.

>>512212716
To you. I am still the number 1 chess champion of /pol/, and I give praise to the supreme highest God Almighty, my Master.

>>512212716
This is not a argument, saying the world ie le bad or humans le evil is not a convincing argument but pure parrot

>>512212781
the main reason I'm posting these is to show you just a little bit of what real Christianity is.

>>512212767
You don't know jack shit. God is real.

>>512212653
Sure scholasticism helped preserve rational inquiry during the Middle Ages, and thinkers like Aquinas or Bacon made contributions

But let’s not confuse the use of reason within a religious framework with the birth of modern science, which emerged only when those religious constraints were finally broken

Galileo wasn’t praised by the Church. He was silenced

Modern science began not because of theology, but when it started asking questions theology wouldn't allow.

>>512212899

>>512203515 (OP)
Buddhism <= Christianity
That’s the craziest thing I learned in my own spiritual quest. Tatargata Garba = Christ. Dharma = god.

>>512212853
>I am still the number 1 chess champion of /pol/
>>512212905
White pawn to e4

You'll cower and lose again

>>512212934

>>512212968
You will give me plenty of (you) and that's exactly my plan.

>>512212994

>>512207175
Being deemed sinful is enacting suffering, so finding Christ eliminates suffering.

>>512203515 (OP)
OK, you worship satan, we get it.

>>512212747
I'm an atheist, but this is a great quote. Working on yourself and identifying your issues and prejudices first before judging others is extremely important. I wish more Christians practiced this type of Christianity rather than the "I'm saved and you need to be too, sinner" bullshit.

>>512213050
But the rate of Christians is growing by far fastest in Africa and shrinking everywhere else

>>512212917
>Galileo wasn’t praised by the Church. He was silenced
Nope, his thesis are praised, he was silenced because he personally offended the pope and refused to obey tribunal authorities, who in the end are supporting him, by the way, his thesis are not supported even by the science in that time, please, don't write things you clearly don't understand, and no, modern science didn't started because it critized theology, there is no religious contraints or contradictions between christianity or science, this is your opinion, nothing beyond that

512213034
Kek
>>512212968
>You'll cower and lose again

>>512207306
This. Finding Christ is like the Alt+F4 to get out of Hell. Buddhism is how you deal with living in hell.

>>512213115
Ooh ooh ah ah

Can you just clarify for us in the thread, the irises of your eyes are black correct?

>>512213040

>>512212767
Buddhists don't identify as "atheists" any more than they identify a-Santists or a-tooth-fairyists. The people who identify as atheists are balls deep in ego, dualistic thinking and various forms of delusions.

>>512212840
>Buddhism isn't a theistic religion
It's also not an atheistic religion.

>>512213125
You will live and see Hell.
You will die and go to Hell.
All anti-christs will go to Hell.

>>512213250

>>512213242
Yes, i can, what you want to know exatly ?

>>512213323

>>512208498
Christianity and Buddhism are both realizations that humans are inherently sinful beings who enact suffering. To sin is to cause suffering. They’re equivalent.

>>512213269
Yes it is. It's literally an aeverything religion. How can one believe in Gods when there are none, no beliefs, and no one to believe?

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>>512213269
>Buddhists don't identify as "atheists"
Because they don't need too lol
>>512213269
>The people who identify as atheists are balls deep in ego
Some are, just as some religious people are
512213283
Lmao
>>512212968
>You'll cower and lose again

>>512213373

>>512213104
It makes sense that people who suffer the most would look for a way out of that suffering.

>>512213115
I agree the Galileo affair was complicated. It involved personal conflicts and politics as well as theology

His ideas weren't immediately accepted by the scientific community either science evolves over time. Galileo received recognition from some church officials, but his support for heliocentrism conflicted with church authority, leading to his trial and house arrest. This case highlights the complex relationship between religion and science.

In short, saying Christianity and science never conflicted is a modern interpretation rather than a clear historical fact.

>>512213456

>>512213444
You will see Hell, you will die, and you will seethe.

>>512213508

>>512213462
Sure but it also indicates that Christianity is a peasant religion that limits personal development because its concepts are fealty based and thus easy to digest for sub Homo sapiens

Christianity is, in effect, Buddhism but you have to swear to someone. And it just so happens that for most of history there has been someone to collect money for that purpose. Or it has run entire countries. What a surprise.

>>512207306
I will just say "i am sorry, Jesus" 5 minutes before i die and i will in the same heaven as you. Same as faggots and murderers. What's the point of being a good Christian then?

>>512213269
Atheism = a lack of belief in a god. That's it. It has nothing to do with dualism or ego lol

>>512213546

512213535
Lololol
>>512212968
>You'll cower and lose again

>>512213444
>Because they don't need to
Good. And now reflect on why atheists need to.

>>512213396
I didn't say they believe in gods. I just said it's not an atheistic religion. Why are you so hell-bent of crowning Buddhism as a denomination of your religion?

>>512207306
>when I die I will go to magical realm of infinite pleasure for all eternity while you go to realm of infinite torture.

Christianity is literally a death cult that promises you things will be better once you are dead so long as you obey the book written by Jews

>>512213589
He knows that. All he has is a strawman of atheism, watch

>>512213594

>>512213040
I bought this guys book a year ago but haven’t cracked the plastic yet, looks like that’s what I should do today

>>512213722

>>512213587
It's simple. You are either belong to God, or you are not.

You hate God, then back to Hell. The garbage dumb ghetto of souls.

>>512213651
>atheists need to.
We don't "need" to. We just don't see evidence for a god. You can't control what you believe in. Go ahead - try believing in the tooth fairy, see how far you get.

>>512213651
>And now reflect on why atheists need to
Atheist need to what?
>>512213651
>atheistic religion
Oxymoron

>>512213499
>but his support for heliocentrism conflicted with church authority, leading to his trial and house arrest
Nope, his personal attack agains the pope and disobedience towards the law is what caused his trial and house arrest, the Pope and church give him even right to explain his theory but still he can't, because it was unproven, and no, christianity and science never conflicted with each other, give us examples of this, real scientists and real science conflicting with the church, and don't cite the case of Giordano Bruno since he was just a lunatic mystic who had anything to do with science.

>>512203515 (OP)
Daoism > Buddhism >>>>>> jewish fairytales

>>512213775
>>512213781
>We don't "need" to.
You do. People who don't believe in Santa don't identify as anything. People who don't believe in the Tooth Fairy don't identify as anything. People who don't believe in a thing don't identify as anything. You identify with a label because atheism is a belief system. And it is certainly not the belief system of a Buddhist.

>>512213745
one of the only handful of Orthodox churches in my metro area has St Gregory of Nyssa as their patron Saint. It's an OCA parish (orthodox church of america, basically used to be ROCOR so it has the russian musical tradition but they do everything in English)
I am Antiochian though, so my church is entirely English and mostly american converts, but we do everything in Byzantine chanting instead of choral music.

>>512213938
>You do.
Nope. You are now arguing in bad faith, claiming you know how my mind works. You're fallacious in your reasoning.

>>512213659
>death cult that promises you things will be better
like every religion, it have a heaven and hell, what you write is pure babble and ignorance

>>512213806
The Galileo affair was complex and involved personal conflicts and legal issues, but the main issue was his support of heliocentrism which challenged the Church’s scriptural interpretations.

While the Church allowed him to explain his ideas, they ultimately rejected the theory as unproven and threatening to their authority.

like this, History shows that science and Christianity have had moments of tension, not constant harmony. (Cases like Kepler and Copernicus also illustrate this)

>>512213994
You do. People who don't believe in Santa don't identify as anything. People who don't believe in the Tooth Fairy don't identify as anything. People who don't believe in a thing don't identify as anything. You identify with a label because atheism is a belief system.

Adding your ID to the filter, but the ideological parasite that has latched onto your mind will force you to reply again.

>>512213762

>>512213938
>>We don't "need" to.
>You do
Who are you quoting? Try a reply that doesn't have strawman nugget for brains

>>512211920
Stop using ChatGPT in ever thread to promote your weird delusions

>>512214068

I was born under the place that used to worship the almighty war God. Even have a temple as an evidence.

>>512213994
Told you dude. That Maldovian does this all day.

>>512214082
People who don't believe in Santa don't identify as anything. People who don't believe in the Tooth Fairy don't identify as anything. People who don't believe in a thing don't identify as anything. You identify with a label because atheism is a belief system.

Adding your ID to the filter, but the ideological parasite that has latched onto your mind will force you to reply again.

>>512214118

>>512214020
>but the main issue was his support of heliocentrism which challenged the Church’s scriptural interpretations.
Nope, they are not, cite the cases, phrases, etc... show me you knowledge on this

>While the Church allowed him to explain his ideas, they ultimately rejected the theory as unproven and threatening to their authority.
It was unproven because the science on that time was on the side of the church, to put it simple... his theories are not proven in that time, not even he can prove

>like this, History shows that science and Christianity have had moments of tension, not constant harmony. (Cases like Kepler and Copernicus also illustrate this)
No, this is all based on your opinion, you are clearly trolling here, and what Kepler and Copernicus have anything to do with this ? they clearly don't contradicted anything but are praised, both by religious and secular authorities

>>512213938
>atheism is a belief system
Nope. It's the rejection of a specific belief. We only define it because too many people have that specific belief and labeled themselves first.

>>512214166
sorry roman catholic bros but this has to be said bcuz its the truth, no hard feelings

You will never win. Those that go against Me will al get cursed.

>>512214148
Many such cases indeed.

>>512214216

It is destiny.

>>512214196
You are arguing with ChatGPT

>>512214260
never give up frens

Buddhist is a mindset for body to accept the physical world in its suffering. To equalize everything to a positive mindset.
Christianity claims saviour for eternity. The two can go hand in hand long as Buddhism doesn't detach you from God and accepting Christ died and is risen

I am eternaly bound to the supreme Almighty. Past, present, future...
I, alone, am the honored one.

>>512214161
Way to bring up some irrelevant shit you massive clown

>>512214330

>>512214309
I suspected this, there is one memeflag that i noticed too here, his arguments are too formalized and stupid to came from a human mind.

>>512203515 (OP)
christians are infused with a jewish psychology which makes them psychotic and a dangerous threat to society. they believe in a religion where guy started hearing voices in his head that told him to mutilate his genitals and threatened to murder his own son. we need to toss christians to lions

Everyone posting with a meme flag has brown skin and black eyes

The internet is basically useless for conversation now because of you things. :(

>>512214435
To be fair. That kid was the product of adultery. He should had been killed.

>>512213587
Romans 3:5-8
5 But if our unrighteousness demonstrates the righteousness of God, what shall we say? Is God unjust who inflicts wrath? (I speak as a man.) 6 Certainly not! For then how will God judge the world?

7 For if the truth of God has increased through my lie to His glory, why am I also still judged as a sinner? 8 And why not say, “Let us do evil that good may come”?—as we are slanderously reported and as some affirm that we say. Their [c]condemnation is just.

>>512214435
>christians are infused with a jewish psychology which makes them psychotic and a dangerous threat to society. they believe in a religion where guy started hearing voices in his head that told him to mutilate his genitals and threatened to murder his own son. we need to toss christians to lions
You writes like a chinkjeet, you need to go back

>>512213938
>because atheism is a belief system
Atheism is just the absence of one belief. A belief common enough that not holding it needs a name.

No positive beliefs are required and no actions are demanded or forbidden on the basis of being atheist. You could become Pope and be an atheist, that's how undemanding of an ideological system it is.

>>512214555
Truth be told... majority of 4chan now is brown or yellow

>>512214403
ICXC NIKA

Christ is Risen!
Christos Anesti!
Christos Voskrese!
Hristos a Inviat!
Al Maseeh Qam!
Christus ist Auferstanden!
Cristo ha Resucitado!

Reminder that Buddhism is incompatible with atheism.

>>512203515 (OP)
Buddhism is stupid, as a religion it's false. It's actually a philosophy, but as a philosophy it's lazy and is more about meditation methods or something and burning incense.

>emptiness as the ground of everything
But if this is true, why is there something instead of nothing? Buddhism makes no attempt to answer this or any fundamental questions. It's definitely preferable to shitslam though, that's not even a question and they have fought them for centuries because mudshits have consistently tried to spread and invade.

>>512214648
People who don't believe in Santa don't identify as anything. People who don't believe in the Tooth Fairy don't identify as anything. People who don't believe in a thing don't identify as anything. You identify with a label because atheism is a belief system.

Empirically, those who call themselves "atheists" tend to hold beliefs that fall into a distinct constellation. One typical atheist belief is that they get to just "define" atheism in a way that includes a bunch of people who would never willingly associate themselves with this demographic.

>>512214678
You are also brown wtf are you replying lmfao

>>512214739
>pretends to know something about buddhist philosophy
>immediately spouts the most retarded gotcha possible:
>"""But if this is true, why is there something instead of nothing?"""

>>512203515 (OP)
Kek, pushing paganism didn't work so now you turn to the religion of the bugmen? Stupid kikes.

>>512214778
>atheism is a belief system.
Lack of belief

>>512214196
You asked for evidence about Galileo's conflict with Church scripture

Alght

1st, In 1616, the Church formally declared heliocentrism "contrary to Scripture"
Galileo himself was warned not to hold or teach the theory.
During his 1633 trial, the court stated that his ideas “are formally heretical as they contradict Scripture.”
His famous book Dialogue even offended Pope Urban VIII, worsening the conflict.

2nd, Regarding Copernicus and Kepler, Copernicus delayed publishing his work due to fear of backlash, and Kepler faced his own struggles within a religiously charged environment

>But the tide in Rome was turning against the Copernican theory, and in 1615, when the cleric Paolo Antonio Foscarini (c. 1565–1616) published a book arguing that the Copernican theory did not conflict with scripture, Inquisition consultants examined the question and pronounced the Copernican theory heretical. Foscarini’s book was banned, as were some more technical and nontheological works, such as Johannes Kepler’s Epitome of Copernican Astronomy. Galileo was not mentioned directly in the decree, but he was admonished by Robert Cardinal Bellarmine (1542–1621) not to “hold or defend” the Copernican theory.
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Galileo-Galilei

Their relationships with Christianity authorities were complicated, not purely harmonious or praiseworthy.

>>512214778
Yes, Heidegger said that atheism is a religion itself, God for them is the so called ''science'', is a false one of course, more of a ideology, majority of time they don't even practice real science but parrot they do

>>512203515 (OP)
Gnostic christianity is basically the same as buddhism when properly understood. Buddhism is just as poisonous when heralded by watered down teachings and pop culture.

>>512214739
>But if this is true, why is there something instead of nothing? Buddhism makes no attempt to answer this

Huh? Reams of Buddhist text answer this. A chain of 12 conditions causes existence

Christianity certainly doesn't try very hard either. "UHH some guy made it" lol

>>512214739
>why is there something instead of nothing
because "nothing" is impossible and this is a pointless question to ask (but if you're a Christian, you're used to this)

>>512214616
brown id, christian and brazilian. oh i'm laughing

>>512203515 (OP)
Eternal life > Reincarnation hell.

>>512214870
But Buddhism doesn't attempt to answer that, making it weak as a religion and philosophy. The sects of Buddhism that are more religious have religious texts but without a god, how did this revelation occur and from what source? Serious contradictions.

>>512203515 (OP)
It's never "my religion is good".

It's always "this better than christianism".

There is only two religions: christianism and antichristianism.

>>512214974
>A chain of 12 conditions causes existence
This created sentience and the physical world?

denying your self in buddhism is suicide, neglecting your child, deluding yourself with drugs to "open your third eye". What modern boddhisatvas have you to boast of? ECOFEMENISTS HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHA.... ahahahAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH... no ill stop now.
woman religion

>>512214103
Sorry i'm not chat gpt

>>512213587
You can't trick God, and it's jewish to think you can.

>>512215041
>But Buddhism doesn't attempt to answer that
Why does it need to answer that? Also why are you backpedaling? Go ahead and explain the contradiction you thought you saw.

>>512215145
Yes. Ask chatgpt or something about what I just said. If you reject it it's you rejecting an explanation, not an explanation not being present

>>512215041
I'm going to turn this around on you because I have defeated 100% of Christians at this juncture and I will also defeat you

You believe the word of God above all. So why are you not a jehovas witness or Mormon? You are a heathen as God's directives have changed.

>>512208715
This place is hell. Earth is a hell. Buddhism says you will come back here again and again until you reach enlightenment. Enlightenment is finding the escape key = Christ.

>>512215274
So then it's weak as a religion and philosophy. Technically it may not qualify as one. Sounds like you are backpedaling.

>>512214906
Yes, this is clearly a ChatGPT nigger, by the way, what you wrote is clearly wrong, there is better source than a oversimplification that you posted, Heliocrentism was not contrary to the scriptures, it was unproven science in that time, there is no court who said they contradicted anything of the scriptures as the sources i posted show, by the way, Copernicus ideas was financed, praised and spread by even the pope itself, this Kepler strugle is just on your head, all his theories are respected, supported, and praised, what is not is personal offense or attacks agains the pope, religious authorities and the law, not just this but much of their theories are not proved in that time, not even by the scientific community

https://historyforatheists.com/2025/03/galileo-pope-apologise/

https://historyforatheists.com/2018/07/the-great-myths-6-copernicus-deathbed-publication/

>>512215385
> I dont sneed to have an explanation for how the world is. why cant you just accept that something is nothing and nothing is something! look see! arent you impressed with me spouting contradictions as DEEPsik and profound??

>>512215306
But anon, the 12 conditions have nothing to do with an explanation of consciousness or the physical world.

>>512215385
>So then it's weak as a religion and philosophy
Why? Also why did you backpedal? I thought shunyata contradicts there being something rather than nothing.

>>512215544
Lmao run boy

You have black irises too don't you? Run boy!

>>512203515 (OP)
Christians are just fucking retarded beyond imagination

>>512215202
Conscious awareness lacks any preference. Your perception of the world is just a mirror reflection of reality around you. As such, you need to apply your own personal biases to reflect the self, but the conscious awareness of reality does not rely on there being a “self”

>>512215648
>Can't answer question
>You are le nigger xD
Jew coded post from a jew coded thread.

>>512215406

Michal J A Paszkiewicz, a historican did a pretty good job too explaining the galileo, copernicus and kepler affair on his X twitter, with sources and everything of course

https://x.com/MichalYouDoing/status/1945594802055041442

there is the written setence on the tribunal too

https://famous-trials.com/bruno/260-sentence

i recommend him if you want to learn more about these cases, plus the sources he posted too

heliocentrism by the way

https://x.com/MichalYouDoing/status/1838975785593430025

>>512215346
I keep listening to [In Hell we live, Lament] as I keep observing the sinners of /pol/.

https://youtube.com/shorts/7BLB1LZkZ-o?si=LVXjRxxFACB_Hdey

https://youtu.be/XfTWgMgknpY?si=zwFS5C5cM6CCkMLM

>>512215756
100% of Christians defeated by their own ideology. If not Mormon you are heathen. You don't believe in the words of God

I guarantee you are some Mexican your flag means nothing. You can't post a non brown or black iris

This is why I've tried of even arguing with you. It's fish in a barrel anyway since I figured out the Mormon argument. You won't even engage with it because you know you can't win

>>512215202
Thich Nhat Hanh is based. He's proof of how much peace and happiness Buddhist practice can bring to one's life

>akkkshually existence is bluepilled, non-existence is based
>you don't get it it's not existent not non-existent not non-not-existence, and like totally based once you reach it
How about no, I'll stick to being no matter how many "dualism", "ontologism", and other void slogans are thrown.
Buddhism has very little to do with the pseudo-philosophical slop in the OP. Buddhism as it is actually believed by >99.5%+ of buddhists involves death cults and often demon worship. A few eastern "philosophers" that couldn't understand pre-aristotelician levels of logic and wallowed in apophatic gnosticism didn't make buddhism. Trying to frame their (40 variants of) metaphysical views as the core of it is completely goofy and non-serious. At most you could extract some snippets from the earliest canons that would certainly not resemble anything like what is in OP.

>>512215565
Shunyata is the emptiness of a self, not an experience. You can experience something from any kind of perspective but when you insert your own biases into the equation you are manifesting yourself where there was none before.

>>512215406
Sorry, I'm not chat gpt. Funny thing is, I notice people say that whenever they can't win an argument against me. Is it because I'm too ruthless in my attacks? Should I talk less? lel

Once again

1st, While the articles you shared offer a nuanced reinterpretation of Galileo's trial emphasizing personal conflicts and political context, they overlook key historical facts. It's true that Galileo's trial wasn't solely about science versus religion, but the core issue remained his support of heliocentrism, which the Catholic Church officially declared <contrary to Scripture> in 1616. This declaration was not merely a personal or political stance but an institutional judgment based on the Church's authority over scriptural interpretation.

2nd, The argument that Galileo's conflict was only personal fails to acknowledge that his scientific claims challenged the theological framework of the time. Moreover, while Copernicus did receive some support from Church authorities, his heliocentric theory was also the subject of considerable controversy and was placed on the Index of Forbidden Books.

(Kepler's situation, though complex, included significant struggles related to religious and political pressures, contradicting claims that his work was universally praised without conflict)

>>512215660
Of course, 2000 years of christianity and is just you, the true enlightened that know the truth lol

>>512203515 (OP)
>>512208498
>my religion (converted, so of course I am only depicting the highest forms of it) vs. your religion (which I left so will only depict in its lowest forms)
youre both a little too attached to vow :)

>>512215859
But how do the 12 conditions have anything to do with an explanation of the existence of the physical world or consciousness? They don't, otherwise you would post it immediately. Any other anon can just look it up and see it doesn't. Reincarnation doesn't answer this either.

Also how can one claim to know reincarnation and previous lives are real? Do you have a memory of a previous life? They made it up quite literally.

>>512216001
You are just parroting the same shit and still dodn't proved anything, i posted updated sources, even more simple and clear, but still you insists on this shit...i will repeat, there is no scientific conflict but personal ones, is that clear ? the science and history is not on your side on this, you are pathetic

>>512215933
I didn't ask for your irrelevant opinions.

>>512215896
>and often demon worship.
Telltale sign of Christcuck is calling everyone else's gods "demons."

>>512215385
>So then it's weak as a religion and philosophy
Why? Also why did you backpedal? I thought shunyata contradicts there being something rather than nothing. Explain how.

See how easy it is to silence a pseud?

>>512215780
Beautiful. And truthpilled

>>512216241
For starters, no. Sometimes it is plain naturalistic worship, which is indeed often done in South East Asian Theravada negroes, but Many Tibeto-Chinese types are indeed demon worship.

>>512214007
Other religions actually promise immortality through blood, that a better future is built by your actions in the present and that you will be rewarded in the next life by being reborn in said world that is a better future.

Christianity is just of the mentality that what happens after death is irrelevant because when dead you will be in magical realm of pleasure, it’s a very boomer “not my problem” like. Old Aryan religions valued the eternal soul that lived through the blood of your people.

>>512216271
>I will use le word hehehe
Why don't you explain in your own words what shunyata is and how it's relevant then.

>>512216433
This is a modern neopagan interpretation of ancient paganism, that is not exatly how it worked

>>512216204
Rude

>>512216181
Lmao you keep yelling "no conflict!!" like that makes history go away

>Church in 1616: "Heliocentrism is heresy, goes against scripture!"
>You: "NOOOOOOOOOO!! Ackshually, it was just a personal spat!!"

Bro, you're coping harder than Galileo under house arrest.
They banned books. Issued decrees. Silenced scientists.

That's not a tea party, that's suppression

>>512216467
I will if you concede that you can't defend your statement. If you won't concede that, go ahead and defend it in your next post.

Behavioral prediction for your next post: deflection.

>>512215859
Also the other thing is how is this thread and the posts within it being posed as some sort of Christian vs Buddhist thing? I could be a Christian, Atheist, Deist, anything really. Very sus.

>>512216721
Defend yours, anon. Or at least make one. Explain in your own words.

I hate the antichrist

>>512216680
>They banned books. Issued decrees. Silenced scientists
Your opinion is the same as shit, they only censores and banned personal attacks or offenses agains the church, be it heresies, mysticism, etc... no science, zero, nada, of course, the only thing the church did wrong is on the Galileo case, but in how they mistreated Galileo, the Pope was a bit paranoid in that time and he take the offense very personal and serious, besides this there is none, everyone was on the side of the church and Pope on that time, religious or scientific concensus.

>>512216530
What do Tesla's ramblings have to do with shunyata?

>>512216798
Notice how easy it is to stifle the pseud. Simply ask it to defend its statements and watch it enter a loop of deflections. Eventually the pseud will stop replying. The pseud is a simple mind with simple behavioral routines that are easy to memorize and exploit. :^)

>>512215202
>denying your self in buddhism is suicide

Okay but which school of Buddhism. Most religions have the same problem of having many different sects that believe conflicting things. Which makes them difficult to trust. At least Buddhism doesn't claim its texts are the word of God like Judaism, Christianity, and Islam though.

>>512215882
Just skimming his wikipedia page, he seemed like a positive man and accomplished a lot of objectively good things. My final thoughts after reading a bit were that he would make an excellent Orthodox Christian. If his philosophy caught on and became widespread it would no doubt be a positive thing for humanity. Unfortunately it is completely in conflict with human nature and out of reach of normal people, which is why when you go to Buddhist countries like Thailand and Vietnam, they are some of the most materialistic countries on the earth, despite the tiny establishment of buddhist monks.

Buddhism, just being a philosophy, is the primary lacking characteristic because it is not in congruence with reality and history. What I mean is, if Jesus Christ our God did not become incarnate as a human being, philosophy would basically be all we have. But reality shows us the opposite. Christ is not a fairytale, and not just a historical figure with influence. He conquered death, and through that, the hearts of the world. The wonderworking miracles of the Holy Apostles and Christians since then is beyond number. The man you showed probably got as close to the truth as you can get in a society geographically and culturally isolated from Christianity, and obviously came upon parts, fragments, of the truth (asceticism, peace, elevation of love for other human beings, etc). But when considering the entire human picture, there can be no other truth than Christ, who permeates all aspects of humanity, not least of which history. Orthodox Christianity is like the spirituality of zen buddhist monks, but with so much more than that. There is so much missing from other pieces of the puzzle you find elsewhere in the world. Christ is truly the way, the truth, and the life.

>>512216433
nigga no they did not. Buddhism, et al. are firmly nihilistic, i.e. that there is no meaning in this life and that you will die, and that all the valuations you make are dependent upon the personal virtues your culture believes in (so you should strive to shape that culture through enlightenment). Ancestor worship (such as the Roman worship of the gens) was always aristocratic and reserved for the patricians, optimates, etc., because it was done for the personal pursuit of power, legitimacy, and material gain. Christianity operated no differently than this until the end of the Reformation.

>>512203515 (OP)
>Buddhism
>just nihilism dressed up with le deep esoteric wisdom
yeah I'll keep my religion,you can keep whatever the fuck yours is, immoral animal

>>512216874
when it is wrongly seen, emptiness destroys the dull-witted like a snake wrongly grasped

>>512217218
Are you calling Tesla a dull wit?

>>512217156
Buddhism simply states there is no self, you are just a piece of a profound model of reality. Becoming selfless is a core tenet of Christianity as well.

>>512216957
>Uhh uhhh SHUNTAYA
>Can you explain in your own words anon, what this means?
>No

>>512215682
what is perceiving reality if there is no self?
>>512215882
I have no doubt buddhism benefits a lot just as any other religion can turn a life around.see my flag. my parents are buddhists and great parents. i doubted some kids' parents' divorces as a kid because my parents were so wonderful.
But all I see in buddhism is a few nice words. I dont see a community that I can meld into. I dont see a strong philosophy to root my actions and more importantly life into, and that is of the utmost importance for my opportunistic self. If I dont have a nagging thought at the back of my head saying im wrong then ill do whatever. do what thou wilt. call me guilt tripping, whatever, but it works. Buddhism doesnt cut it for me.
There was this issue back as a kid I had where I saw good and evil almost as brands or tastes in food. and you cant fault people for liking different foods than you. I saw my evil actions as something that didnt net me any help or goodwill from others, but not really evil was it? Buddhism didnt offer any philosophy to bridge that gap in my heart/mind while looking at Christians online they had a much deeper theology so I rested my chance on them.
I know im typing like a fag but this is basically it for why I looked at christianity first over buddhism. theres more i can list, but this was what was on my mind at the start of it all.

>>512211270
The fix was already in place before Creation was, you don't understand who Jesus is. The Cross is the axis mundi of all Creation. God had to not just bend the fabric of all reality to save mankind, he had to break it. God literally, NOT FIGURATIVELY, conquered death itself.

>>512216873
Bro, that's pure COPE.

You can't rewrite 1616 and 1633 like it's fanfiction. The Church literally declared heliocentrism 'formally heretical' not just because of tone or insults, but because it contradicted Scripture. That's not 'censoring personal attacks'. That's suppressing science with theology.

>In 1616 the Inquisition declared heliocentrism to be both scientifically indefensible and heretical
>found "vehemently suspect of heresy" for following the position of Copernicus, which is contrary to the true sense and authority of Holy Scripture
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_affair

Galileo was banned from teaching it, Copernicus's De revolutionibus was censored, and even Kepler's work got banned despite Kepler being a devout Christian. If this was just about Galileo being rude, why did Kepler's Epitome get yeeted too?

Because science ≠ doctrine back then (that is a symbol, might not show up properly here), and the Church didn't like being contradicted.

>>512217470
If you don't know what it means, why did you attempt to make some dumb argument about it?

>>512217349
No. I’m saying you are.

>>512217585
Why are you saying mean things like that? Also I'm still waiting for you to explain what Tesla's ramblings have to do with shunyata. You won't do this.

>>512217503
Honestly, you own sources contradicts you

https://www.britannica.com/biography/Galileo-Galilei/Galileos-Copernicanism

''Maffeo Cardinal Barberini (1568–1644), a friend, admirer, and patron of Galileo for a decade, was named Pope Urban VIII as the book was going to press. Galileo’s friends quickly arranged to have it dedicated to the new pope. In 1624 Galileo went to Rome and had six interviews with Urban VIII. Galileo told the pope about his theory of the tides (developed earlier), which he put forward as proof of the annual and diurnal motions of Earth. The pope gave Galileo permission to write a book about theories of the universe but warned him to treat the Copernican theory only hypothetically''

What he defended is a hypothesis, not proven, he admited he was wrong too, he can't prove the Copernican model, but he still defended it, so they see him as clearly wrong and spreading lies, now you can go to bed

>>512217481
>something punched a face somewhere
>that asshole punched my face!

Gnosticism/Hermiticism > all

>>512217760
Continuation

''During his first appearance before the Inquisition, he was confronted with the 1616 edict recording that he was forbidden to discuss the Copernican theory. In his defense Galileo produced a letter from Cardinal Bellarmine, by then dead, stating that he was admonished only not to hold or defend the theory. The case was at somewhat of an impasse, and, in what can only be called a plea bargain, Galileo confessed to having overstated his case. He was pronounced to be vehemently suspect of heresy and was condemned to life imprisonment and was made to abjure formally. There is no evidence that at this time he whispered, “Eppur si muove” (“And yet it moves”).''

>>512217844
''Galileo was then 70 years old. Yet he kept working. In Siena he had begun a new book on the sciences of motion and strength of materials. There he wrote up his unpublished studies that had been interrupted by his interest in the telescope in 1609 and pursued intermittently since. The book was spirited out of Italy and published in Leiden, the Netherlands, in 1638 under the title Discorsi e dimostrazioni matematiche intorno a due nuove scienze attenenti alla meccanica (Dialogues Concerning Two New Sciences). Galileo here treated for the first time the bending and breaking of beams and summarized his mathematical and experimental investigations of motion, including the law of falling bodies and the parabolic path of projectiles as a result of the mixing of two motions, constant speed and uniform acceleration.'''

So was not censored, tortured or killed, same goes to Copernicus or Kepler, again, the science was on the side of the church on that time, what the religious authorities attacked is the unproven scientific claims, pretty normal since spreading bullshit was prohibited on that time, nothing new

>>512217801

>>512203515 (OP)
youll notice in places like here where religion is often discussed hinuism and buddhism are rarely discussed (i understand this thread is an exception) the reason for that is if you actually examine either they are so obviously retarded its not worth discussing, this thread isnt even really discussing buddhism its just antichrist kike thread number one million disguised as a comparison vs buddhism

>>512217760
Oh come on.... the key issue isn't just whether Galileo "proved" heliocentrism at the time, it's that his public defense challenged the Church's literal interpretation of Scripture, which was the ultimate authority then.

Galileo's hypothesis wasn't accepted as scientific fact because the observational evidence was limited. Yet the Church viewed even advocating heliocentrism as contradicting Scripture, hence heresy.

So yes, Galileo admitted limits in proof, but that doesn't erase the fact that the Church punished him for promoting an idea considered dangerous to its doctrinal authority.

In short: It wasn't just about proof. It was about authority and control

>>512217481
forgive me this ESL tier english. i shouldve been asleep an hour ago. Out of all religions I think christians and buddhists live the most harmoniously together in the little sample size that is my own life. kaya/kachin/kayins minorities are some type of christian. It would be nice to see this harmony continue.
>>512217784
empathy isnt what i was trying to get at. its more closer, but isnt, to self accountability. at least thats the end goal of realising the bad in my bad actions.

>>512217503
>>512217960
you own sources agains
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_affair


''Pope Urban VIII had been a patron to Galileo and had given him permission to publish on the Copernican theory as long as he treated it as a hypothesis, but after the publication in 1632, the patronage broke due to Galileo placing Urban's arguments for God's omnipotence, which Galileo had been required to include, in the mouth of a simpleton character named "Simplicio" in the book; this caused great offense to the Pope.''

>>512218075
Again

''Dava Sobel argues that during this time, Urban had fallen under the influence of court intrigue and problems of state. His friendship with Galileo began to take second place to his feelings of persecution and fear for his own life. The problem of Galileo was presented to the pope by court insiders and enemies of Galileo, following claims by a Spanish cardinal that Urban was a poor defender of the church. This situation did not bode well for Galileo's defense of his book''

>>512217801
> the incoherency of holycrapitsanesotericreligion fans

>>512217844
>>512217960
Yes, Galileo wasn't physically tortured or executed, and he continued working late into his life, publishing important scientific work.

But that doesn't mean the Church didn't severely restrict and punish him. Being forced to recant under threat of life imprisonment, being placed under house arrest for the rest of his life, and having his works censored these are forms of repression, not freedom.

Why can't you understand what I'm saying?
Is it difficult for me to understand what I'm saying?

WAKE UP

>>512217696
Okay little buddy, go back here >>512214739
see how he asks:
>But if this is true, why is there something instead of nothing? Buddhism makes no attempt to answer this or any fundamental questions
But Buddhism was the philosophy of a guy raised as a Hindu, so just insert some Hindu theory of creation and the question is answered. Simple
As.

>>512218245
God > Freedom

>>512218301
what does buddhism say about kikes? anything?

>>512218245
>But that doesn't mean the Church didn't severely restrict and punish him. Being forced to recant under threat of life imprisonment, being placed under house arrest for the rest of his life, and having his works censored these are forms of repression, not freedom.

He was not severely restricted or punished, the man lived on a palace with all luxuries possible, with studends, tools, etc... all provided by the inquisitors themselves, you are clearly dumb and wrong, confusing secular attacks as the same as religous ones, this is not how it works

>>512217114
>Christ is not a fairytale, and not just a historical figure with influence. He conquered death, and through that, the hearts of the world. The wonderworking miracles of the Holy Apostles and Christians since then is beyond number.
Why do Christians think these grandiose self-important assertions work on anyone but themselves?

>>512217801
Gnosticism is for glownigger faggots lol

>>512217498
>The fix was already in place before Creation was
Its amazing how people dupe themselves into nonsense

>>512218301
I don't get it. Your Tesla meme says something about some "primary substance" that "all perceptible matter comes from". Shunyata doesn't imply any such substance. If anything, it implies the opposite. So what are you trying to do here?

>>512218419
Because you know it's true and you love the antichrist plain n simple

So there is no threat to life inprisonment, the inquisition didn't treated Galileo badly, on the contrary

>>512218352
Kek
It says we are all kikes and we should stop being kikes if we want to live without suffering

>>512218301
>>512218482
Or rather, dis-implies it.

>>512218352
You reap what you sow.

>>512218141
>>512218181
Are you fool? Galileo's satire offended Pope Urban VIII, straining their relationship, but the real issue was Galileo's challenge to the Church's doctrinal authority and literal interpretation of Scripture. The Church defended a theological worldview with deep social and political power, so personal offense was only part of a larger conflict.

In short, So while personal drama played a role, it doesn't erase the fact that Galileo's scientific ideas were condemned as heresy.

>>512203515 (OP)
Christianity isn't dualist. That's part of humanity's curse. And you have zero idea of what dark and light is to begin with. Humans are fallen.

>>512212520
This is the crux. Either reality is dualistic or it isn't. If the structure of reality is inherently dualistic, then dualistic thinking is an appropite way of apprehending reality.

>>512218414
ARE YOU REALLY FOOL?

Living comfortably under house arrest doesn't equal freedom
Being forced to stay confined for decades, banned from teaching or publishing on his main ideas, and under constant surveillance is still severe restriction.

The Church's luxuries don't erase the fact that Galileo lost his freedom, his career, and was publicly humiliated for defending scientific truth.

You're mixing terms to downplay the repression, that's just ignorance!

>>512217960
you are arguing with a paid kike shill, he was in another thread attacking Christianity and defending Islam. Now he's attacking Christianity and defending Buddhism. But always anti-Christian. He's also blatantly copy pasting shit out of chatGPT, complete with the "That's X—not Y" gptslop reddit tropes.

>>512203515 (OP)
Your attachment to the concerns of ego, is ego.

>>512218574
Friend, Galileo himself admited he was the wrong here, besides, he was very religious, not a stupid atheist who wanted to fight agains the religious authorities on that time, you clearly deranged, he didn't challenge anything besides on your limited stunted brain, and there is no larger conflict, the conflict thesis is already proven wrong, just a meme on the internet, as i posted, clearly didn't read you own sources, there is ton of contradictions on it that goes agains you, and his scienfic idea was not condemned, but his personal attacks and unproven claims, try again.

Nigger

>>512218492
>Anyone who disagrees with me is the devil

>>512218719
I know, the thing is i am writting for real people who want to learn more about, not because of him, his claims is clearly stupid and a laughable in the history and scientific world.

>>512218482
That’s wrong though. Shunyata is emptiness of SELF because of all the things that went into making a self, there is no actual self, because you are the product of infinite other interactions that brought about your existence. You are nothing more than a product of other products, produced by other products and on and on until infinity. So if there is no actual self to experience anything, there is no experiencer of the experience. Did the experience actually happen? Yes. But it didn’t happen to “you”

>>512218716
I am just doing charity with you right now, just shilling on here watching you pathetic state and attempts to undermine the catholic church reputation, you need to try harder than this!

>>512219000
>i have no idea what i'm talking about

>>512208498
This. We don't keep our identity after we die, because it dies with us. (And therefore, it is not possible to eternally suffer)

>>512218782
Friend... Why don't you get the point? Are you an idiot?

Galileo was religious and admitted some faults under pressure, but that doesn't erase the fact that his ideas threatened the Church's authority, leading to his condemnation.

>>512219152
>under pressure
there is no pressure agains him, he even said he was treated well and fare, try again

>>512218719
That's just a rebuttal to their long comment. It's funny how when I respond with a long reply, they say I'm using Chatgpt. What, then should I reply one line at a time? lol

>>512208957
c'mon dude, you know all they do is rip on the likes of Michael Knowles and Jay dyer and post the same mummy foot webum

>>512219308
>should I reply one line at a time?
It may make me read your words because I can't be arse reading your long ass text.

>>512218481
If you don't understand what Logos is then you aren't going to understand who Jesus is. The Logos becoming Flesh, then dying a sinless death(paradox), reconstituted reality itself. God metaphysically divided the universe by zero, just to save you.

>>512203515 (OP)
every Buddhist I've ever known simply could not resist the urge to let every single person know how Buddhist they were. I even saw a girl holding a large sign saying "I AM BUDDHIST" lmao. western Buddhism is performative redditry for narcissistic faggots.

>>512210356
also true

>>512219015
Living comfortably in a gilded cage doesn't make you free, it just means you're a well fed prisoner.

>>512219215
Saying Galileo faced <no pressure> is like saying a lion in a cage is free because it's fed well. Sure, he said he was treated fairly, but fairness doesn't erase the bars around him. Pressure isn't always a shout sometimes it's a whisper that says "Confess or lose everything"

>>512219778
>whataboutism
nope

>>512203515 (OP)
LARP vs LARP

>>512219807
>Tucks tail
Mk

>>512213269
Damn these Christkikes are desperate to define not believing in their jew god as religion of it's own. Almost as if they think religions are bad or something.

>>512219871
>memeflag
nope

>>512219925
Empirically, those who call themselves "atheists" tend to hold beliefs that fall into a distinct constellation. One typical atheist belief is that they get to just "define" atheism in a way that includes a bunch of people who would never willingly associate themselves with this demographic.

If you argue this point to an atheist, sooner or later he will revert to slandering whatever he thinks your religion is, or making some strawmen about theists, even if you never express any theistic beliefs. At that point, he has determined that you are NOT an atheist, even though you may very well be one by his bogus definition. Why? Simply because you disagree with his characteristic atheist philosophy and atheist pattern of thought.

This WILL happen REGARDLESS of your belief in deities or lack thereof. The atheist intuitively rejects his own definitions.

>>512219807
Calling it <whataboutism> doesn't change the fact that your argument dodges the main issue. Don't deflect address the core point or admit you can't.

>>512220042
I already posted the sources and rebutted you clownish shit, what you are doing now is hand-waving and parroting, ignoring you own sources that contradicts you too

>>512218352
I actually have another one by the Buddhist philosopher Nagarjuna:
>to see the interdependence of all things is to see that all suffering in your life is also a dependent phenomenon, an effect originating from causes and conditions
>this means that if you understand the causes and conditions of your suffering and remove them, so too would you remove the suffering that springs from them

>>512209958
Also to highlight the downsides of Buddhism, why was the Buddha so afraid of death and suffering that he had to create a whole religion? Who was preventing him from learning about this factor of life when he was little? Death is nothing to be afraid of, but should we embrace it? Would it not go against our nature? No reason to not accept that it will happen.

>>512203515 (OP)
Oh hey Gardner. Are you still simping for Thugshaker?

>>512220193
>why was the Buddha so afraid of death and suffering
Same reason everyone else is. Nothing in your post highlights any downsides of Buddhism.

>Death
>No reason to not accept that it will happen.
It won't happen, though.

>>512220154
You can't deny Galileo was repressed. Saying it was "fair" doesn’t erase the chains and silence.

Stop dodging facts and face the truth.

HISTORY IS NOT OU YOUR SIDE

>>512220397
Of course i am not citing some interesting things too, Galieo can't just prove his point on that time, he defended clearly wrong scientific census too like ''the universe is centered on the sun'', you can now run to your mother, the church was more than right to censor him on this.

>>512220306
Well if I could have met him in person when he was a little boy of around 4 years old, I would have shown him the concept of death and reasons not to be afraid of it. I would probably have also groomed him too, but that's just me

>>512220678
You're afraid of death so you can't show anything to anyone in that regard. The fella you're talking about went on to actually uproot that fear and taught others how to do the same.

>>512220397
galileo was under cushy house arrest where he was allowed visitors, any reading material he wanted, allowed to write his own new stuff, and was so oppressed he was allowed to travel to Florence to see doctors.

boo hoo muh galileo, he still lived better than 99% of people in that age during his 'oppression'

>>512220563
huh? what if Galileo got some details wrong? That's how science works, trial, error, progress. ok?

He wasn't punished for inaccuracy; he was silenced for challenging authority. Modern science was born because people like him dared to think under the boot of Christian repression.

>>512209272
Do Christians actually think that their god, defined as true benevolence and master of all things goodness, appreciates that his followers get through their day with a smile on their face because they know that good things are for them alone and they get to watch other people get tortured for ETERNITY?

It's psychopathic. If I was god and saw a world full of folk who wish hell on others I'd be cooking up a second flood. If you can wish torture for eternity on someone what's really stopping you from being a serial killer? That's infinitely less damaging by definition.

>>512220904
Yes, Galileo was supressed because he defended a model that cannot be proved in that time, the church still followed the Tychonic model, who was defended by the scientific circles, his Galileo model got proven centuries after this, it was just a hypothesis until then

>>512220975
Good thing. You are not God.

>>512220904
Yeah, comfy prison is still prison

You can sugarcoat it all you want, but being banned from publishing, teaching, or freely expressing your life's work under threat of further punishment is repression, no matter how fluffy the pillow is.

"Living better than peasants" isn't a flex

My God is the definition of ((better than you))


“For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
neither are your ways my ways,”
declares the Lord.
“As the heavens are higher than the earth,
so are my ways higher than your ways
and my thoughts than your thoughts.

>>512220949
>what if Galileo got some details wrong? That's how science works, trial, error, progress. ok?
No, and he was pretty smug and convinced that he was right, even if being corrected or the scientific consensus goes agains him, that is not how it works, and there is no challening authority here, he never criticized the Papal or church authorities and even less power, you are treating Galileo as if he was some kind of atheism on that time that hated Catholicism, science born from a christian context, with christian mentality, help, finance, instititutions, etc...

>>512203745
Please refrain from posting lust provoking images

>1pbtid
>westerner prefers religion of other hemisphere
learn to recognize pajeet threads. learn to stop giving (You)s, which end up as rupees, to OPs like this. jews pay pajeets to spam this board en masse with the same globohomo agenda that you're still associating with only jews. since 2023 you are much more likely to see jew noise posted by a pajeet. there are a hundred times as many pajeets as there are jews. if you want any part of the internet to survive, you must detect, reject and redeem pajeets everywhere you find them

the majority of pajeets on /pol/ try to hide the fact that they're pajeets. in addition to "leaving that part out" they will proactively, persistently misrepresent their true form. pajeets are all about assuming other people's roles, from today's outsourcing and replacement migration all the way back to thuggee bandits lying to travelers about who they were. pajeets are devoid of their own identity, making them the ideal globalized goyim. they don't want a home where they belong. all that means to them is "compete in squalor." much better to go somewhere nicer, built by other people, and do their jobs for less pay and live slum-barracks life in their suburbs. pajeets don't want to be home. they also don't want to be pajeets. jews know exactly how to play their insecurities and dopey ambitions like the innocent rube fresh off the bus from the cornfield. this is their new golem to replace the ones that don't love them anymore

>>512220860
>uproot that fear
It's ok to be afraid of death, faggot. Accept that it is inevitable and you will eventually cease to exist as an organism one day.

>>512221099
>but being banned from publishing, teaching
He was not, his ideas are still being published even by the Church and Inquisitors, but not his unproven hypothesis, you are clearly mentally unstable

when in doubt, try this
CLINICAL TEST QUESTION
>are you descended from south asian subcontinental ancestry?
any answer longer than "no" means yes
not answering means yes
lying means yes

only a few specific groups have the time or inclination to spam anti-christianity so frequently. one of these groups (pajeets) is much more numerous and less qualified than the others

>>512221397
Look how these shills behave and write and compare to pajeets, you get you answer after all

>>512221203
You're doing Olympic level mental gymnastics to dodge the point lel

Galileo didn’t have to be an atheist crusader to threaten Church authority, his ideas did that just fine

>>512203515 (OP)
I'd rather be an Eldrazi than a buddist any day.

nice esl penis breath
please tell me all your bright thirdie ideas to advance humanity

>>512221362
Accepting that something is inevitable didn't make you any less afraid of dying.

jk i'm done with this pajeetass bullshit
l8r pajeets

>>512221378
That's like saying a dissident wasn't silenced just because the state still allowed them to publish cookbooks.

The Inquisition didn't care about his style, they cared about the threat his science posed to Church doctrine. That's why they forced him to recant and silenced him for the rest of his life.

Stop twisting technicalities to downplay what was clearly suppression.

>>512221533
Reality is that Galileo get judged by the inquisition because he personally attacked the pope, not because he was a heretic or something like that, and his ideas didn't treated anything, the problem is when he misterpreted the bible from nowhere, and mixed with his model, so there is a theological context here and now religious, besides he was denounced by his scientific oponents, especially aristotelian ones, to make matters worse he was know to be a arrogant smug asshole who didn't accepted being corrected or wrong, even goes beyond this and offend the pope

>>512221602
What I am simply saying is that fear is the correct response to learning about death but understanding that it is not really all that terrifying is why you should learn about it. Get that through your thicc skull mister!

>>512221649
>they cared about the threat his science posed to Church doctrine
Nope, as i explained in detail, it is not my problem that you are a ignoramus maximus here and don't want to accept the truth, but honestly... you are irrelevant, i am doing this because there is some folk who want to learn

Kepler and Copernicus are another matter since they didn't get censored, persecuted or whatever, on the contrary, the church even gave financial aid and urged them to publish their findings, the church probably was the greatest scientific institution in that time, it gave full support for them in everything possible

>>512221951
You're not explaining anything you're just preaching.
If Galileo's ideas weren't threatening, he wouldn't have been silenced, forced to recant, and locked down for life

Keep coping, history isn't on your side anyway

>>512218719
Lmao that's some shill.
why did he choose such a disgusting anime girl?

>>512221907
>understanding that it is not really all that terrifying
This is not a thing that ever happened to anyone. You lack basic self-awareness.

>>512222152
You must be insane to just spam the same tranime bullshit here, did you have all of this on you HD ? try again and stop trolling

>>512221099
laws exist for a reason, guess he shouldn't have propagated a theory he couldn't prove at that time
you're advocating he should have been free of the moral strictures of the era just cuz

an the upshot of it all was that a 70 year old man was told that he had to stay in his mansion most of the time, where he continued his research, big tragedy

>>512221879
His personal attitude isn't the point, it was his scientific ideas that threatened Church doctrine.
The trial was about suppressing those ideas, not just his behavior.
History clearly shows a clash between science and religion in Galileo's case.

>>512222232
The Pope take Galileo offense too personally, naturally he should be free, this is not because ''le science'', this is all a matter of own hubris and a bit of theology, nothing more.

>>512222178
I lack a lot of things, because I am not all knowing like everyone else. Ohmmmmmm

>>512222207
You're like a parrot stuck in a loop just squawking the same nonsense with zero understanding.
Try upgrading from autopilot to actual brainpower lmao

>>512222274
> it was his scientific ideas that threatened Church doctrine.
Such as ? you are parroting the same shit but are nothing proven what it contradicted on the matters of Church Doctrine
''The trial was about suppressing those ideas, not just his behavior.
History clearly shows a clash between science and religion in Galileo's case.''
His trial are for personal offense only and a bit of Bible schizophrenia by his part, nothing more or less.

>>512222400
>zero understanding
Yawn

>>512222232
Laws can be unjust, especially when used to silence truth.

Calling decades of forced confinement a big tragedy sarcastically ignores the loss of freedom and progress.

>>512222529
Your <zero understanding> is like a flashlight with dead batteries all noise, no light tok fucking kek

>>512222640
>Your <zero understanding> is like a flashlight with dead batteries all noise, no light tok fucking kek
is that all your best ? lol

>>512222477
The core issue was heliocentrism directly contradicting Church’s geocentric teaching.
It’s not just behavior when ideas challenge sacred doctrine.
Dismissing it as "personal offense" ignores centuries of documented theological conflict you idiot

did you know?
"cute aggression" is for the pervert behind the cute mask. wrapping yourself in cute gimmickry doesn't make you cute. it's there to make you less threatening to kids who don't know any better. "cute aggression" is an extra layer of bullshit persecution drama on top, as if you are the cute thing and people hate you for that. die any time

>>512222737
Wow, your zero understanding is like a smartphone with no signal all the hype, none of the connection.
Keep trying though, maybe one day you’ll actually get it instead of just noise LMFAO

>>512222798
>The core issue was heliocentrism directly contradicting Church’s geocentric teaching.
It contradicted the tychonic model who was the theory accepted in that time on the academic world, the church just followed it because... it science, Galileo models cannot be proven, there is no religious or church doctrines on this but pure science, and yes, there is centuries of theological conflicts but not scientific.

>>512222883
Do us a favour and kys already, just a waste of time

>>512222944
The Church's acceptance of the Tychonic system was itself a compromise to avoid conflict with Scripture.
Heliocentrism directly challenged the literal Biblical cosmology the Church defended as doctrine
So no, this wasn't just pure science, it was science vs. religious authority MORON

>>512222383
>I lack a lot of things
Basic self-awareness being one example.

>>512223037
Don't introduce yourself

>>512223044
>The Church's acceptance of the Tychonic system was itself a compromise to avoid conflict with Scripture.
No, it was the scientific consensus even outside of the church in that time, and no, heliocrentism didn't challenged any on the bible, do you have a clear example on this ? by the way, Galileo was not completely right

>>512223109
redditor discord troon...do something useful on your life

>>512223195
Scientific consensus doesn't make something free from theological conflict especially when Scripture was interpreted literally.

Heliocentrism clashed with Genesis and Psalms passages that described Earth as fixed.

Galileo's "not completely right" doesn’t erase the real threat his ideas posed to Church authority idiot

>>512223270
Your "scientific consensus" sounds like Brazil's economy forecasts, full of guesses and a dash of wishful thinking lmaor