Was it organic or was it a "jew plot" to pit christians against christians as many /pol/chuds claim?

>>512217486 (OP)
tldr protestants being niggers combined with some legit "self governance" stuff (don't ever listen to americans on this)

>>512218241
Lol

Lmao

Modern Prothestants are mostly abhorrent faggots, but Luther was based for calling out the unholy alliance of subversion.

>>512218470
People sit here and criticize Protestantism and have no idea of what it really is, just Pseudo-Protestant Heretics who don't believe anything the Reformers who their disciples actually did. They don't even view the world the same way, at all.
Go at least read one of the Four Forms of Unity and understand it before you open your mouth again before I embarrass you.

>>512217486 (OP)
This is why I think the French Reactionaries had it right: Antisemitism and the JQ wasn't something for Normies to know.
Conspiracy Theories used to be this elite thing because most of the people talking about them were playing, "the Game," and trying to fight back.
Everything is not literally ZOG, anon.
Yeah you've got Jews who are pushing things this way and that but the bigger any conspiracy is the more unstable it is.
What actually happens is Jews are master flesh-peddlers who understand the lowest parts of human nature because they have a predisposition to not only the lowest forms of human nature but they glorify and justify it.
Knowing we're all depraved one way or another, they masterfully exploit these weaknesses.
The more you look, yeah you'll find the Jew eventually. But the truth is that it's usually a White Traitor who was moldable like King Pedro in Spain during the Reconquista.
Anyway, 30 Years' War was an explosion of multiple political and religious factors. It wasn't all ZOG. It was mostly religious disputes that were amplifying political and economic ones that had begun a century prior.

>notice an uptick in anti Christian threads where unsourced claims are compiled to consensus crack with protestants in America being the main target
Take two minutes to research some voting demographics and whoopdeezooya whaddya know it's another barely concealed TDS shill op

This JDS is getting tiresome. People really out here expecting a jew behind every blade of grass. The answer is simple. Germoids have been a plague on Europe and like to chimp out periodically.

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>>512218594
>dude I'm le super based Protestant
Yeah no, the average protestant is a LGBTQ+ ally and worships Jews as God's chosen people. Nobody gives a shit anymore about Luther, plus the fact that Christianity got split into 85 gorillion sects is the proof it was a psyop from the very beginning

>>512218993
>If any variety of schools of thought on it exist it's a psyop
So...you are vaccinated

>>512217486 (OP)
it was organic, mostly because of the overstretch of the Habsburgs, hierocratic developments of the Vatican since 1302, issues with colonization inducing bankruptcy, piracy, massive climate change, and more importantly different political strategies to treat the fading nobility and the rise of the upper middle class (see Prussian junker system for instance).

>>512217486 (OP)
the dutch were filthy kike lovers

>>512219258
a broken clock is right twice a day.

Evangelicals should be thrown into gas chambers, they look and behave like a schizo cult with their megachurches, speaking in tongues and shitty love for musicals

>>512218594
You know why, because everything in the modern world is an occulted and bastardized form of what came before, used to uphold the foundations deemed worthwhile, in this case material interface and that alone. Well said, fellow anon of nuance.

>>512219473
Ah "brown" catholic nation has an opinion
Go worship nigger feet fresh off a boat

>>512218993
Did I say I was a protestant? NO. But you are a binary nigger who can't separate a anonymous 4chan reply from team-like cheer-leading because you are a low T faggot who needs to appeal to the group's consensus in order to meet basic needs of safety and survival. Against the wall, nothing of value will be lost.

>>512219258
He's a pseud who thinks history and social observation is a waste of time. He would rather be a reactionary, serving the dialectics like fodder with zero personal agency.

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>>512219950
What does the vaxx have to do with faggot acceptance, jew worship and female pastors

>>512218993
>The purest Churches under heaven are subject to both mixture and error: (1 Cor. 13: 12; Rev. 2-3; Matt. 13:24-30, 47) and some have so degenerated, as to become no Churches of Christ, but synagogues of Satan. (Rev. 18:2; Rom. 11:18-22) Nevertheless, there shall be always a Church on earth, to worship God according to His will. (Matt. 16:18; Ps. 72: 17; 102: 28; Matt. 28: 19, 20)
~Westminster Confession of Faith; Ch. XXV, p. 5

It's crazy to think people believe a religious systematic theology can not only break the first Global Powerhouse but also exist for centuries and they're the first people to come up with a slam-dunk critique. Phenomenal level of arrogance.

>muh 85 gorillion denominations and counting

That study was a joke. It counted multiple rites within Catholicism as separate denominations entirely and even split Presbyterian denominations that all are part of the same Presbytery just because they were missionary churches in foreign countries.

>>512220079
>faggot acceptance,
Neck yourself

>>512217486 (OP)
Just the pope getting angry, really.

>>512220079
>here the reactionary goes again with the binaries
I don't know what you are trying to prove by making my identity for me and rebutting it in the simplest of terms. I KNOW... modern protestantism is golemization. Tell someone who doesn't know this already if you want to win your imaginary argument with some who has an opposing stance you mouthbreather.

Catholics got big mad that protestants politely mocked their beliefs on transubstantiation so they started a war they couldn't win and killed off 1/3 of Germany in the process.

>>512220224
Nah, it's valid enough. There are a gorillion denominations initially.
>then they all got killed by catholics
Then they started schismatisming, which usually resulted in the schismatics being murdered unless they were powerful enough to defend themselves from insane catholitards. Then the real seething begins and they try to genocide each other because people in that other country read one word differently except in reality the king just wants some new lands to rule.
In the end you have Christians killing 100 million other Christians over a 1800 year period.

>>512220297
I’m not an atheist so that isn’t a counter to anything, faggot
>>512220632
That isn’t an accurate summary at all and my post was implying the exact opposite of a “binary,” dumbfuck. How about you learn a little reading comprehension before trying to apply big words you were impressed by?

>>512219335
was the the northern protestants destroying church art and sculptures an important factor?

>>512221018
>Posts more cope
Yawn

>>512221018
>That isn’t an accurate summary
What is an accurate summary of straw-manning the most regurgitated talking points as my opinion when I never stated it, or anything even remotely close to it, was? I give you the floor, buddy.

>>512221018
>faggot acceptance, jew worship and female pastors
>not a binary support/detest
Pottery

>>512221277
Damn, this guy got ass raped.

>>512218241
That, and france using proxies to fuck with the Habsburgs

>>512217486 (OP)
Basically Papists fucked up bigly.
Protestants made it even worse.
Governments made it ten times worse.
Orthodoxy was the only solution.

>>512223314
There were too much mercenary companies profiting out of the endless war as well. Kind of remind me to the Russia-Ukraine BS

>>512217486 (OP)
>The answer is simple. Germoids have been a plague on Europe and like to chimp out periodically.

>>512221274
It was one of the factors, but the post-Reformation medieval culture (which was declining) was iconoclastic because they believed clerical control was inherently satanic, that it was aligned to a temporal force that ridiculed sovereignty. The aristocracy, however, supported it because it allowed for burgomasters to sell off patron works, which transferred wealth back into the nobility and upper classes.