Thread 512316016

$100k today is worth the same as a $50k salary from 2000. >However, taxes on $50k are 30% but remain at 60% for $100k.
Your 2025 takehome on $100k after taxes is the equivalent of $20k in 2000.
Housing, however, is 5x what it was in 2000. Add in the tax rate difference, and that's 10x.
So, in 2025 dollars, if you make $100k, then in 2000 if you would have paid the burden of $900 for housing, but today you're paying the equivalent burden of $9,000 per month.

What "felt" like $900/month in 2000 "feels" like $9,000 today.

>>512316016 (OP)
Thanks Christ kikes

>>512316016 (OP)
>$100k today is worth the same as a $50k salary from 2000

That is not really true.

>>512316016 (OP)
>Paying 750,000 dollars to live in British style cuck shed

Really

And yet you, and all of your obese kin, sit around masturbating to the thought of doing nothing to stop the kikes.

>>512316016 (OP)
>Housing, however, is 5x what it was in 2000.
>
>
>

>>512316016 (OP)
>Arlington
Feds really are brown cattle

>>512316016 (OP)
I am dying in my home and leaving it to my son.

>>512316310
Good parent.

>750k to share walls like it's an apartment
wew

>>512316198
Half the basic whole foods I buy are 2-4 times as expensive as they were just 5 years ago you fucking KIKE

>>512316016 (OP)
60% taxes for 100k? Not so sure about that

>>512316016 (OP)
It's by design. Jews are slow boiling Whites into economic death, while they take all the property for themselves to rent back to you, while making you pay for their purchases through inflation.
This only ends when you put jews in camps.

>>512316526
Yeah that's not how taxes work.

>>512316016 (OP)
Fucks sake whomever does that grayscale shit should be hanged. No trial, just goons waiting outside Home Depot if you buy the material.

>>512316112
So are we making a better life for our children? No? Why not? Are we more pathetic than boomers?

>>512316198
You're right, it's more like $100k today is $54k in 2000.
YOU FUCKING GOT ME KIKE

>>512316198
Anything's possible when you're a lying faggot

>>512316198
You write like a predditor

>>512316206
When this argument occurs online, people pick the shittiest rundown cabin in the middle of fucking Iowa to prove that housing is affordable, but when you just go to any major metropolitan area suburb it's almost always like what I posted.

>>512316016 (OP)
Inflation is a part of the American Capitalism you invented and loves so much. What's the problem? Don't you like the things you create? I thought everything you created was based! I thought everything you created was perfect! A gift to mankind! What's wrong?

>>512316259
It is.
What I did was add in the fact that inflation has doubled, but you're taxed against the value of $100k from 30 years ago.

>>512316016 (OP)
It's not inflation that is killing you -- it is uneven distribution of wealth and deliberate limitations on the production of new assets.

If this money that was being created was being used to build more productive infrastructure that creates more goods/services, or it was going to fund UBI instead of going to those who are already wealth and then used to bid up prices on existing assets, you wouldn't notice the inflation.

>>512316016 (OP)
Why call it "inflation" when it's driven by a need for investments to pay off? Inflation brings to mind money printing as if they need to make more money from quarter to quarter isn't at all a factor. Since inflation is measured at consumer price index, it's just the prices they are setting to make profit. And we see the record profits everywhere. Why pretend that that's not the case?

>>512316526
When you factor in payroll and city/state, and property, yeah.

>>512316270
prices around military bases are probably hella inflated becuase realtors know the vets are good for their G.I. bill. and living off base is a luxury.

>>512316016 (OP)
The plan is for boomers to sell their housing stock to banks / hedge funds / corporations instead of their children. These institutions will artificially overbid the market to keep it at an unnaturally high price locking first time buyers out

>>512316601
Lots of boomer takes online lately.
Joker from Better Bachelor has boomer'd out recently.
The Jews that comment in these threads say shit like:
>Sorry but men are going to have to start e-scootering, walking and living 5 men to a 2 bedroom apartment. That's just how it is now, don't complain if you aren't willing to adjust.
Fuck off with that kikes.

>>512316112
This isn’t on real Christians, the Bible says a good man leaves his grandchildren and children an inheritance. Boomers are the generational kings of knowing Jesus’ name, but doing nothing of what he says.

>>512316977
I think you would be surprised at how many of the well-to-do and somewhat well-to-do are in the landlording business. These are the people lecturing you about "productivity".

>>512316660
The gray paneling is universal because stupid fucking roasties are so picky and trendy about how a house should look that no one wants to take any home design risk.
People are like, "Black and grey are the best selling cars so I'll get that so it's easy to resell". How about getting the color you fucking want?

>>512316016 (OP)
Just register yourself as a brand and write house purchase as a necessary business expense and then write it off as a net negative for you the person who is the sole investor of the brand that is you, don't ever show the government profits dumbass.

>>512316977
the power of the dollar. the power of currency. is supreme. im sick of people thinking it isn't.
christ isn't king.
the almighty dollar alone proves who is worthy of transcendence and ascension.

Nuke us right now.

>>512316842
What I want is a national policy that taxes high end property and redistributes money to give anyone under 80th percentile income the purchasing power for housing equivalent to 2000 price levels.

For example, an $1800 apartment today would have cost $900, so a renter with a job will get a $900 subsidy. Tax the shit out of the top 20th percentile for this, particularly boomer 401k and so forth.

>>512316198
It’s pretty close. Try it yourself using the governments own data (which is mostl likely an underestimate)
https://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl?cost1=50000&year1=200001&year2=202506

>>512316016 (OP)
"inflation"
"spread"
"public debt"

>>512316890
Military base adjacent neighborhoods are the biggest worst ghettos.

>>512316016 (OP)
Nothing like a lazy Sunday drinking lemonade by the heat pump.

i regularly make offers on homes at disgustingly low prices just to piss the owners off
its highly entertaining

>>512317173
>You can't get a good job or afford these levels of rent prices. That's not my problem, wah it's hard to be a landlord.
Raymond Thoughts And Mind is going through this, and I only feel bad for him because he only owns the one property and personally renovated it and almost all his life savings are in it, and he uses it to fund the mortgage on a fucking run down shack in the middle of nowhere.

>>512317306
>the power of the dollar. the power of currency. is supreme.

This is just low effort. The kikes of old who used to troll this place at least tried. I wonder if the JIDF fired a bunch of kikes in favor of AI?

>>512317518
I think a much better policy is free apartments to anyone who needs one, so they can work and save without having to kick up to their local mafia boss, I mean landlord.

And don't seize anyone's property to do it. Let all the existing landlords keep their property. If their existing tenants want to keep paying because they like the place -- more power to them.

Just have a national jobs guarantee and have part of the work of that program to be building public housing.

>>512317549
The only thing better now is that electronics and things like that are massively cheaper than pre-2000.
Video games should probably cost $100, since that's how much we used to pay for them.

But what gets me is that tax brackets haven't been adjusted to accommodate inflated prices and salaries.

>>512317568
becuase the only other people that live and work near military bases are poor as shit.
it encourages them to join the military.

>>512317818
post more of those vapourwave memes talking about old virtues about being a lion and shit.
only people rich enough can dine on human flesh.

>>512317865
Massive amounts of money have been pumped into top level assets. That was redistribution of wealth. Socialism for the rich. It has to be reverse by government policy.
Everything else will just cause market distortions.

>>512316016 (OP)
That's my hood

Thread slowed down so I bet if I checked the catalog there's like 3-4 "this house costs that" slide posts up.
That's how they slide good shit.

>>512317865
people need struggle or else they will start doing hard drugs and not give a shit.
humans are opportunists. you give them too much credit when you think they will look for work if their housing is paid for.
"free housing" comes with caveats , mainly how much shit gets broken down becuase people dont care about shit if they get it for free, and landlords dont give a shit becuase they can't increase their profits.
might as well federalize all housing , and give it out to government sub contrctors like they are doing already.

>>512316366
I just hope they find my body before I stink the place up too much.

>>512318269
Shut the fuck up parasite.

>>512318063
policy is your new god.
and he doesn't care a shit about you.
the only way to reverse shit is to wipe out the entire ledger. and bring everyones wealth back to zero.

>>512318359
just take alook at all the free housing currently in amercia.
you will know im right.

>>512318394
More or less.

>>512316198
>>512316717
ashkuallly it was like $13k
probably worse when you factor in king nigger destroying the availability of good used cars forever

>>512318579
This is a tired argument. Automakers can make less expensive cars -- they don't want to do it. And their shareholders in the government don't want them to do it, either.

>>512318579
I sort of called that out though by saying that (in 2025 dollars) that the burden of housing in 2000 *felt* like $900 a month but *feels) like $9,000 a month now for the equivalent salary level.

>>512316016 (OP)
>Arlington VA
>70% white
Who the hell wants to live in ARLINGTON? What are you, a glowie or something? Move to a place with a better cost of living.

>>512319077
See:
>>512316792
>White Hall, IL
Imagine the jobs.

That $50k house would be $1,229 in 1990.

>>512316016 (OP)
Comparing price of home in ounces of gold and how many usd to buy it in ounces of gold is an easier method to understand inflation.
Technically houses are cheaper now than they were in 2018 but USD inflation has caused it to lose about 50% of the value in that time. Its a usd problem caused by jews.

>>512319405
We need a national strategic manufacturing labor force.
Basically wages are set relative to global competitive levels, like competitive with Vietnamese and Ghanians.
However, workers receive housing and food allowance, free healthcare military style, plus stipends and family stipends, paid by taxing tech and finance bros and raiding Cayman Islands off shore shit.

>>512316482

That does not mean money is worth half the amount you subhuman fucking animal.

>>512319931
Get the rope and tar and feathers kike.

>>512320045
Being an exaggeratory faggot just makes your position look stupid and wrong on its face choke to death.

>>512316684
Because we don’t even have the option to break even, let alone improve things.

>>512320128
Nothing is exaggerated. It's that bad.

>>512320176
The fuck you attitude of boomers and Gen X makes me basically not want to save white people. Continue those fuckers' genes and culture? No thanks.

>>512318798
youre obviously not old enough to have seen the difference the lack of $100 shitbox used jalopies made on the overall quality of life

>>512316016 (OP)
> Housing, however, is 5x what it was in 2000
Why would I complain? This made me a millionaire.

>>512320351
muh age...

>>512319405
I wish goldbugs would just go away. All they want to do is be able to exploit people who don't possess a specific commodity. There's no reason for money to be tied to gold when there are so many other commodities or technologies more important to civilization maintenance. Not saying gold has no value -- its material properties for industrial use are clear. But the idea that your money system should work off of it is retarded.

>>512320367
>I worked to buy a car
Boomers mean they just showed up for a couple months then bought a beater from a guy down the block as if it was such suffering.

>>512316016 (OP)
You pay 30% on income until it reaches the next income bracket, then pay 60% on the income in the next bracket. If the income tax brackets are 30% on income lower than 100K, and 60% on income greater than 100K, it would be broken up like this; (.3)(100,000) + (.6)(1000)

>>512319568
>We need a national strategic manufacturing labor force
allowing (((private equity))) to rape gut and pillage american manufacturing was the worse blow to society than the unlimited money printer flooding the world with fiat. that industry will not ever come back to the capacity it was

>>512320807
A trickle up money printer inflation might be amazing.
UBI but at such a scale the poor stay comfy and top level wealth gets annihilated.

>>512319401
>Imagine the jobs.
Says the guy who literally posted Arlington, VA. Let me guess your job: Bottoming in the Senate chambers? *plap plap plap* amirite?
White Hall, IL is just 1 hour outside Springfield, IL, the state capitol.
>>512316792
>go to any major metropolitan area suburb it's almost always like what I posted
Okay, here is a house in Naperville. It's more than four times larger than the home you posted in the OP in the same price range. Is that what you needed to see?

>>512318359
he's not wrong

Nobody wants to hear it, but the standard of living now vs 1950's is still better, but different. It doesn't seem that way, since houses and cars are so insanely fucking expensive, but for everything else, we have never lived in a time of such absurd abundance with such a seemngly small work exchange requirement.
A significant amount of people's income after housing and auto goes to absolute bullshit consoomerism, vacations/travel and eating, unessentials. No one lives within their means.
So yeah, a nice house in the 50's was like $9,000, a car $2000. You salary was like $8k a year, and you saved for like 10 years to buy shit outright, never ate out more than like 1 meal a month, no endless bullshit spending. You lived within your means.
What changed? Credit. The pay for it later scheme shifted us into excessive consoomerism, coinciding with excessive gov spending and debt.
Inflation is the response/symptom of the actual problem, the jew banker and the retarded consoomer.

>>512321116
Right. Now you don't want UBI to be too high, because then people won't work. I don't think automation is quite at that level. But you want to combine a low level UBI with a basic federal jobs guarantee. The jobs guarantee can't be a great salary, either, because you don't necessarily want to eradicate the private sector -- but you can people to more useful, asset creating/rehabbing work than they would maintaining corporate chain assets that all sell different brands of the same base merchandise.

You would probably need some degree of new consumption taxes to make sure you don't overheat, but the record amounts of credit card debt already show that demand is outstripping wages. So if you just replaced the created deposits of credit card lines with UBI reserves, you would generate less inflation just from eliminating the multiplier effect and the slow monetization of existing debts.

>>512321116
ban options trading (legal theft) in the kike casino

That place has 2400 acres in the back yard.

>>512322762
Government debt is not at all what conservatives portray it as. It literally must exist so the private sector can generate a surplus -- that's you, the private sector.

You would think this would be a straightforward concept to understand as money has a clear point of origin within the system -- either the government or chartered private banks. You need the money first before you can pay your taxes with it. Government spends it into existence.

Okay, since you're not answering, I think I'll just go around Chicago suburbs and totally ruin your day by showing what you could have instead of that soulless 1008sqft flip OP.
Here's a gorgeous palace in Elgin, IL over twice as big at about half the price of the OP listing.

>>512316016 (OP)
Yes
It's a feature, not a bug.

>>512316016 (OP)
Where are these numbers coming from? Is it average was $50k in 2000 and now it’s $100k in 2025? The house prices being 5X from 2000 is clear.

>>512316016 (OP)
that little box is made out of the cheapest materials and made in china electronics and gadgets.
Its insane how cheap h-
Oh its in Arlington, VA. Thats why.

>>512316310
>He said
>20 years later the robots needed the land for a power plant
>He was wrong

Here's a great looking place in Kenosha, WI with great views of Lake Michigan. Kenosha, which is really a Chicago suburb if you're willing to.... *cross state lines*!

But I know what you really want. You need that hustle and bustle, am i right? You want to live in that trendy little place on La Grange Road! A short walk from the Trader Joe's, antiques, a Panera knockoff, and and and a ARCADE!

>>512322762
This is a Jew BAP style talking point Hanania
They’re gloating

Wow OP, after that brief tour of Chicago suburbs, I think I'd kill myself if I had to spend $750,000 on a 1008 sqft rental flip.
Good thing I didn't choose to live in Arlington, VA.

>>512323452
>>512324606
>>512325274
Dogshit pay, boomer money, dead city.

>>512323188
There was an ethical shift, a moral one even, in our society and culture. The seeds were planted after the industrial revolution, but it went into overdrive after stupid hippies lowered the personal responsibility bar to mexican height.
Prior to these events, life was very hard. People did not want to be in debt for anything, because that was, and still is, niggerish. That held out till culture abandoned it for hedonism, but it makes sense as the path of least resistence.
I guess my point is that credit and borrowing was really the death knell.l in the cultural personal responsibility shift.

>>512322430
To afford that price in Naperville you have to be a local oligarch with family money or some sort of Jew lobbyist from Chicago that bribes lawmakers/